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  • Does anyone know if the Berlitz company is going to have this?

  • Greek most certainly did not stop... That horrible statement makes me want to voimt...

  • @TSmity2 - I agree Greek has NOT stopped. The Council of Florence was a celebration of Union of Latins and Greeks. The Greek Byzantine Church has maintained the Greek tongue.

  • Why ruin the whole thing with lame music throughout? I'm wondering

  • Para aprender una lengua, debemos ir en immercion. Seria siempre la mejor manera de aprender une lengua. El problemo con el latin, es que esta idioma no es hablada ahora en un pais. Entonces, como hacer para ir en immercion?

  • @OakPark11MileRd

    Hah. Te ipsum futue barbare stultissime.

  • after several ears of study...

  • Is Talebruma something sweet? Is Chu a star?

    This is an awesome video. I would love to learn Latin. It seems to me if you learn a different language, this one more so, you get a more center for understanding. Like when you're thinking, you say "Okay there's Twenty-one-thousand views", but if you know another language, you have a deeper understanding for what it is, a higher vocabulary for thinking if you will, more so than if you could only speak in one language.

    God I love thinking like this.

  • greek is a dead language in a dead country

  • @amicusnemini really? how do you reckon that?

  • Some lucky Caribbean country would attract mass of tourists eager to hear Classical latin really spoken in everyday life. It would be awesome, I'm telling You :)

  • Besides, it would be an attraction to see a language that died out so long ago, to see it really spoken in Caribbeans. Wouldn't that be awesome? Imagine: Cicero with a cigar and a rum ;)

  • I said that it would be great to revive Latin on some Caribbean island, nowadays spanish speaking. Because, spanish is closer You can get to Classical latin. As I said, Europeans have their own national languages established mainly in 18. - 19. century. Latin America is ideal candidate for some Classical latin state, because spanish was brutally imposed in 16. century by conquistadores. During Roman Empire it was a gradual process of assimilation, thus making Italian, French, Spanish nation.

  • @milekrizman spanish was brutally imposed but latin was friendly and gradually assimilated.oh those legions!, better than unicef!. my favorite gradual latin assimilation is that of carthage..or perhaps numantia, i'm in doubt.

    if you put latin in a caribbean country it will become latinglish in less than a decade. and you must forget those grammar complexities, it will be simplified, reduced and cleaned. if you can read spanish i invite you to visit any caribbean video and to read the comments.

  • nunc latine loquamur. latina loquenda est.

  • I thought on some romance speaking country to adopt Latin as official language, because romance languages (italian, spanish, portuguese, french...etc.) originated from Vulgar Latin (not Classical Latin of Cicero, Caesar and Terence Tunberg and Milena Minkova). Finnish language is of Ugro-finnic languages, not romance languages, such is the case with spanish.

    Italians made their official language based on process of transforming Vulgar latin in romance dialects (Tuscan dialect), so did Spaniards.

  • Macte virtute loquatur a illis Latinitatem. :) (I know )

  • I'm taking Latin in HS.

    And let me say that syntax is super hard.

  • I am highly interested in this seminar class.

  • "The moment I got tenure, I came out of the closet." xDDD (4:42)

  • Terence Tunberg et Milena Minkova valde pulchre latine loquntur! Utinam ego sicut eos loquam! Utinam ego discipulus eorum fueram! Summo cum gaudeo linguam latinam disco. Cupio esse sicut his professores (pardon any grammar errors, but I'm trying to write in in Latin as much as possible). VIVAT ACADEMIA, VIVANT PROFESSORES...

  • so epic! I would love to come if I was older (LOL I'm 15 now... XD)

    and if I could I replied in Latin ^^ Latin is such a great language! Learning a language is so much more easy when listening it, and speaking it! It has been my greatest dream ever since I was 13 to learn to speak Latin. ^^

    and I'll surely wanting to get on with it!

  • Now thats a woman. hahahahaaha

  • @cptmuska

    her accent/voice kind of turned me on..

  • this bolgarian women is like Viktor Dmitrievich Huliganov

  • So amazing I might cry. I love Latin with a passion and I so firmly believe that it should be taught as a living language. I wasn't even going to apply to any American schools for graduate study or write the GRE at all but this video has thrown my academic future into complete and beautiful disarray.

  • "But the moment I got tenure, I came out of the closet."

    I LOL'd

  • Now we need anime dubbed in Latin and manga as well!

  • Uhh, that's disgusting. How dare you forsake the greatest language in history by associating it with that horrendous Jap bullshit.

  • Jeez calm down, do I sense arrogance and prejudice? Indeed what is your problem with animation that hails from the land of the rising sun? How is it disgusting? Anime is not a genre, it's a term to describe a medium that hails from one country and if you've seen a bad anime, get over it, there's more, I can't judge all American films by just watching Micheal Bay!

    Also whether or not Latin is the "greatest language in history" is up to debate. |

    Oh youtube, never short of ignorance. Jajaja

  • Even Michael Bay is more talented than anyone in the anime industry.

  • How so, give me an example!

    Jeez man take it easy, did anime steal your dog or what?

  • It's time to end this anime plague by finally finishing what we started in 1945. It's time for Hiroshima 2: Electric Bugaloo.

  • @RoyalKnightVII

    I have to agree with super, anime can be really gay and i know Michael bay sucks but to compare him to anime is a way different ball park. Also, I have to say that Latin isn't all that great, after hearing Spanish for so long you get sick and tired of that shit and are more found of English which is one of the most hardest languages to learn and is clear to the point. If you speak another language and translate "close the door" it comes out as "door close" in other languages.

  • chill the fuck out caesar

  • Wonderful! Can someone start the same sort of program for Classical Greek? I'd be there in a heartbeat.

  • Learn contemporary Greek. The language has changed but it's still the same words, (with the same meaning),declensions, conjugations etc. I'm actually trying to start a programme for a combined teaching of Greek (ancient and comdern) at the University where I work.

  • @polychronistheo ancient greek is much harder and indeed a different language.

  • Yeah yeah, whatever rocks your boat...Relationship between ancient and contemporary Greek is the same that exists between modern and 15th century French..I'm not inventing anything, I am a classics teacher, I am Greek, and I teach ancient and modern Greek

  • Wow, I want to be in that program.

  • He can out of the closet?

  • hey, this video is really great but has a bad sound quality... can't you do anything to improve that?

    greetz

  • I laughed out loud when he said I would understood more.

  • HAHA oh my god. The irony is so rich in that one sentence

  • Modern Latin. I like the idea of it. They have revived Hebrew, they can so too with Latin. People think it's impossible to learn as a spoken language because they study Classical Latin, which was spoken in a time no one has lived in.

  • We are far removed from a contemporary Latin though. Just try to not think about Romans for a while and imagine the modern world only. Wearing a toga doesn't make this popular in any way.

    Yes, the Classics are interesting, but they're the other kind of Latin with vocabulary and word order of their respective era.

  • @karottetrekker I only know a few Jews and, as far as I know, one of them speaks Hebrew to his family at home.

  • @karottetrekker Yes, but we would need a state like Israel, where people speak this language. Italians speak Italian, which is some form of Vulgar Latin. basically it is a language of Tuscany, local dialect made in a national language. Maybe some region in Italy or Spain, or some other Romance speaking country could made Latin as a national language. Maybe some country in Latin America for instance.

  • @milekrizman i agree, and it's a pity the thing that the only state wich Latin have officiality is in Vatican and there is no where to use it just ATM, maybe the fact is to focus in wich country/state/region it will being in use then apply for theaching the language. ave!

  • @orlanjoyful

    As I said before, we should find some real state, the best candidate is Latin America in my opinion.

    Children could learn it in school and older people would go on classes. Hebrew was revived in the same way.

  • @milekrizman Sound´s good amicus but where it will be??? in wich side, i wonder why do not to try it in Europe cuz there is where Latin comes from...4 example, why not to try it on Finland or someother land? in case to be in latam, ubi???

  • @orlanjoyful No, because Finns wouldn't agree on imposing foreign language on them. In my opinion the best candidate would be some Latin american country. Dominican republic comes on my mind.

    They speak spanish, but spanish was imposed by conquistadores.

    Beside, people would travel to Dominican republic to learn latin, and learning latin is much easy in a warm climate :)

    And people of Dominican republic would have their own national language - language of Cicero and Caesar.

  • @milekrizman Sound good but as you said b4, We have our National Language, wich is Spanish, yes, ofcourse was imposed by Spain in Colonic times but as Finlands all our document such as people are, since born, used to speak, read and right in this language,i have thinking the fact of warm into learning, would be nicer but my people would not agree with this idea...

  • @milekrizman better you´ve know more history about my country...anyway if latin become to b teaching, it will not be the own-native language cuz spain killed our real language,wich its called ¨Taino¨ in cause of we have no knowledge of how our natives called they mother tongue, and the historicals agreed to called ¨Taino¨ .seeing through history and comparing the hebrew resurection, it need to happend the same with latin, one state in complete status of needs nd then latin will be good option.

  • @milekrizman I am really, sure and its a pity,as i said b4, why Vatican dont start to teach the language and became a real state in wich latin would be used for all bussines....what do you say about it? cuz if we check at S.Arabia, they speak Arabic,yes mother tongue but i hope u'll get idea of what im saying,Israel Hebrew and why Vatican does not speak Latin???that has to be a priori of all, if they are the Top of the catholic and love latin as they say...so why dont speak it there? Ave,amicus!

  • @orlanjoyful Church made latin as their official language, because they didn't want anybody else to understand Bible. So catholics didn't translate Bible on national languages (italian, spanish...etc.), until Martin Luther who translated it in German in 16. century.

    I am thinking on reviving many other ancient languages.

    It would be really great to see Latin spoken in a Caribbean island - Cicero with cigar in mouth and a rum in one hand ;)

  • @milekrizman I know that history fray,i dont think so at all the thing that Vatican is only church, why, cuz they have to be the 1st on attempt latin to be spoken.i think what i said is hundred % correct,if you know history and logic you should know that english came through tourism and technolog to the whole world.the same happend with Spanish,French,etc..

  • @milekrizman So, my last word for tonight is, there is, in fact et sine dubito, the most better state for latin...now that up to you, this is my opinion, if latin became in use and being spoken by people when they travel use it as other modern language, surely it will come to Latam and whole world as easy as it is, cuz i think that not only us/Romance languages/ if not so many languages had been "infected" with latin, so would be earsier for everyone,of course we have the romans lead,but will be

  • @orlanjoyful I didn't know that You are from Dominican Republic. I know for Tainos who once lived in Great Antilles (from Bahamas to Puerto Rico (or Boriken)).

    I told one Taino woman from Texas that they could reconstruct and revive Taino on Boriken, instead of spanish which was imposed by conquistadores, because Boriken has the biggest Taino tradition of all Antilles islands. I thought on Latin America, because You speak spanish there, whicih is a romance language, which is close to Latin.

  • @milekrizman Hahha...Ok, no problem fray, errarum humanum est, anyway, our Tainos and borinquen Tainos spoke different kind of language wich where so closer same case to Español and Portugues...yes but as i said, Latin need to be spread from one country..

  • @milekrizman If you look at my last comment and if you know the facts i said b4, you´ll know what i am saying is 1OO% Sure..Jajaj...cigar and rum...we need more acts than words,but meanwhile Latin does not have an official status as spoken lingua,it will continue like it now.

  • @milekrizman Trust me, i will lke the idea that my Country have Latin as national, but the true and history point that one state have to been in some kind of needs and expecific situation...exactly as Israel in these momment when The 1 world gave them a state,resources and more including what we all request, they national Language made it revive Hebrew just 4 locational and more facts wich i dont have space to naming.. if some country fill this,so then and there have to be. ;D

  • @orlanjoyful In 19. century european nations began to emerge. Spaniards took castellano dialect of Madrid, Italians took Tuscan dialect of Tuscany...etc. Americas (North and South) didn't have such normal development. In 1492. with Columbus's voyage to Bahamas began european colonization of Americas. So, with notable exception of Mexico (Nahuatl and Maya), Venezuela (some minority languages such as Wayuu), Peru, Bolivia (Kechua and Aymara) and Paraguay (Guarani), other speak european languages.

  • @milekrizman Ok, it is true that American Indian didnt have a development such as Europe but they got they own culture,language,manners and more. I live in one Country of the Greater Antilles, i´ve study our history since childhood cuz my Mother as GrandMa were summa cum laude teacher´s.i agree, you are right.

  • @orlanjoyful If Europeans did not colonize Americas in such way they did (wars, genocide, culturocide...etc.), today we would have Iroquian state in Pennsylvania and New York state (Haudenosaunee state), eastern Algonquian state from Maine to West Virginia, Musqogean state in American South (Alabama, Georgia...etc), Catabwa state in Carolinas, Timucua, Calusa, Ais and Tequesta state in Florida, Taino states on Great Antilles, Astec and Maya states in Mexico...Europeans interrupted this in 1492.

  • Thats true and is the manner in wich all Countries have been culturalized,such as Europe,Asia & many more,everything begun with the Roman invasions to the barbarians,becoming the way that have been implemented such as Religion,languages,culture,etc­,correct me if im wrong,if Roma had not invaded as they did,God knows what would have been of Europe nowadays and,yesThanks to Hispania we speak Spanish,Usa use English and etc.ofcourse,Latam have too many own languages but mayority speaks Spanish. ;D

  • @orlanjoyful But who speaks Taino on Boriken (although Boriken spanish has 55 % words of Taino origin), Dominican republic and Cuba? Nobody.

    Although some Taino tradition existed even in 19. century (Puerto Rico and Cuba for example), today they predominantly speak spanish (with some Taino influence) and have spanish surnames (Garcia, Velasquez...etc). I am for reviving Taino nation on Antilles, but as I said it would be good to make some spanish speaking country Classical latin speaking.

  • Hmm..Not only Borinquen have Taino roots in they words, We have so many,also quite a few of our provinces have Taino name´s.. ;D your idea will be good but i reffered all the points wich a country need´s for it...i want to ask u, Are you a linguist? sound good to reviving the Taino borinquen even both languages wil b nicer..Take care bro'.

  • @orlanjoyful Linguistics is my hobby. As I said, I am for reviving all the Indian languages in Americas, but the problem is that Europeans and Africans left such a great impact on Americas, it was really a culturocide, especially on the Antilles and eastern shores of Americas. My special interest in Indians are Eastern Indians of USA, from Atlantic coast to Mississipi river, Indians from Great Antilles (Taino and Ciboney), Mesoamerican Indians and Amazon and Brazilian Indians.

  • @karottetrekker But who would speak it? Jews and Israelis speak Modern Hebrew, but who will speak Latin if it is revived? The Italians?

  • @karottetrekker

    I agree. Hebrew was revived in Israel 100 years ago. Why not revive Latin of Cicero and Caesar?

    The big question is which state would be the best candidate for that?

    For a time I thought about Italy or Spain, but I think the best candidate would be some country in Latin America, because, spanish is, after all, a language of qonquistadores.

    Maybe Urugay would be a food candidate?

  • What does the first minute and a half have to do with Latin immersion -_-

  • kind of like me with french. i hated it ut now i want to make a career with it

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  • I still can't get over the comment that there were centuries and centuries and centuries in which no one spoke Greek.

  • Yeah, that arrogant British chap is the sort who is looking for something that is, shall we say, 'worth his time and effort.' Since he believes Latin has a rich and continuous tradition, and, quite wrongly, Greek a broken one, he pronounces Latin more worthy of study. I'm sure he is a lot of fun to be around, pontificating on stuff he doesn't know much about.

  • I think he was talking about Classical Greek in particular. The modern Greek is much different than, say, Homeric. So he seems to be implying that two should be considered different languages entirely, the way Latin and Spanish are.

    ... does that mean that English is a broken language too? I mean, the English of Shakespeare's era is studied, but not spoken daily.

    So, by his logic, English, unlike Latin, is also a broken language.

    Whatever you do, don't tell Lou Dobbs.

  • @Caesarisoffended ...Yeaaaah, umm.

  • @Caesarisoffended I know it's not clear in the video, but it's really obvious to me that what he means is that no one in western Europe spoke Greek. Greek was essential to educated Latin speakers in Roman times, but died out almost completely until modern times. He's not some dolt who's never heard of modern Grecophones.

  • @Caesarisoffended I thought the same thing when I heard that. I think, though, that he was referring to 'classical' Greek which is true, but not true 'spoken' Greek...

  • @Caesarisoffended NOBODY!1! 0.000

  • Really, though, these guys seem overly zealous about their approach and they speak of it almost as if it were a cult.

  • Well, when there are only two people in the world who really feel the language in their bones, wouldn't you want to go stay in a motel and worship them? I mean, all those great scholars who can actually write a witty OCT preface in perfect Latin, who waste their time studying the language and reading it all day-- they aren't really genuine, are they, if they don't converse about their Pop Tarts and IPods in Latin? Eh, mihi, all those years I've wasted! And all that social interaction!

  • EgoSiliquam meam amo! Id carmines plus duo milia tenuit.

  • holy cow! Did he really say (ca. 22:00) that Greek stopped being spoken for centuries? That is outrageously incorrect!

  • Yes. He's a bit of a joke--Greek's corpus is massive and enough to keep any human busy for a lifetime, and the Byzantines kept it flourishing for many centuries--we can probably thank the Crusaders who sacked Byzantium for the loss of many treasures, and the Turks finally.

  • I think spoken Latin is hilarious and useless for learning about the Romans.

  • The whole point of the video is that speaking Latin helps to develop a fluency in reading Latin. Therefore it is helpful  "for learning about the Romans."

  • Sure, but to do it well, you have to read Latin literature, not talk about microwaves and helicopters in Latin. That part is not very helpful. If developing spoken Latin is a motivation for reading, then your reading will get better while you read--the speaking just is a way of internalizing the reading. Getting a feel for how Cicero uses the subjunctive will come from reading Cicero. You can talk about Beef Stroganof in Latin, I'll keep reading, and we'll see who the better reader is.

  • PC,

    If you are as your name implies, you probably feel that by correcting my grammar you have won a victory over these techniques and saved the republic.

    It's my first year under them, so you may blame my earlier grammatici for my error.

    The point of the active Latin programme is that we DO read Latin, and discuss it. But not through translation. The original Latin works are read and discussed in Latin. Talking about Beef Stroganof makes one comfortable in expressing oneself in Latin.

  • The programme works along these lines:

    1) One attends the Summer Conventiculum and learns the most elementary and conversational Latin phrases.

    2) One takes a composition course (taught in both Latin and English) at the University, in which one learns how to discuss grammatical terms and constructions and to write effectively.

    3) One begins taking active Latin literature courses, reading from, speaking about, and writing on classical texts in Latin.

    You take the basics for the whole.

  • There is nothing wrong with being active, so long as you have good models. But being active in and of itself will not give you 'special' insight into Cicero. I don't translate either when I read. But somehow or other I learned studeo takes the dative and internalized it in my first year. The republic cannot be saved, by the way, so this is a silly hobby of mine. Maybe all I've done is save studeo + the dat.

  • I should have learnt studeo takes the dative in the first year...I'm not sure what that was about (as I don't drink, I cannot make that excuse for my Latin).

    But I claim no special insights, only that these professors know what they are doing, and are very, very good at it. What I can also say, though, as a student and working amongst them, Active Latin generates a great deal of enthusiasm for the subject!

  • Are you saying that Tunberg and Minkova don't do it well? And why do you say that speaking Latin (whatever the topic) isn't "helpful"? The girl at 25:03 and the guy at 25:25 claim that it has helped their reading skills, and there are good linguistic and pedagogical reasons for this. Both also would disagree with you that that only reading is useful for reading. I haven't spoken much Latin, but I've written quite a bit, and this has been invaluable for my reading skills.

  • Watch that Matthew Keil's video. It's hilarious. He screws up every other sentence, starting with the first words out of his mouth.

  • sub his doctoribus magnificentissimis linguam latinam nunc studio.

    Hi sunt optimi.

  • I think your saying something about The teacher is very good, and the best at speaking the latin language. I'm in Latin I :)

  • I am currently studying Latin under these most excellent professors.

    They are the very best.

  • linguae latinae--studeo takes the dative

  • Yes indeed. Oblitus sum. Ignoscas.

  • Superior? Oh my Goddess.... and why??!?

  • It has retained all of the declensions of PIE and has been the vehicle for influencing so much of the southeast Asian and South Asian cultures. It was considered a Lingua Franca and knowledge in Sanskrit would make one less Eurocentric.

  • your stupid to think that!

  • It should be taught, but which ever one is superior is subjective, everyone here calm the frak down!

  • Utinam plura Latine potius quam Anglice loquerentur enuclearentque aut his omnibus Anglice dilecte loquentibus utinam saltem Latinae infra monstraretur sententiae! Laudant Latinitatem sermone barbaro. False Gollan de morte Graecitatis disserit. Numquam mortua est, semper florebat et valebat in orientis parte usque ad finem plura quam Latina lingua in barbarie occidentali. Apud Byzantinos scripta sunt opera permulta haud dissimilia optimis aetatis Periclis.

  • What is the website?

  • loved. will try a scholarship here to get into it

  • Hoc spectaculum valde mihi placet.

  • Ita, loqvamur.

  • Guys....It's privilege to learn Latin. Language spoken by the Greatest Civilization world has ever witnessed. ROME. Love Rome and Love Latin. Die hard , to the core fan of Roman History. Long Live Romans and Rome.

  • Well aren't you the ethnocentric type.

  • @tuman22 ..... they're already dead....?

  • I wish everyone pronounced Latin as well as Robert Sonkowsky. I know I do :)

  • Means: My knowledge of Latin is not great

    (or literally - "strong").

  • Sic hic est veritas talis quoque. Non fortis est mihi Latinitate colere.

  • I'm cheating. I studied Latin to age 16 but have forgotten so much I can't write in Latin off the top of my head. My husband, however won scolarships in Latin when young, and is still good at it though rather rusty now.

  • It is weeird for me as well. I can compose coheret sentences from to top of my head, but I have low reading comprehension, probably because I am enterly self taught in Latib.

  • That's interesting. Having been taught, I am the opposite. My understanding is better than my ability to write it. Reading Latin though can be a bit like doing a puzzle. The position of the words is different to English and the endlings of words are often the key to the meaning but some endings can mean more than one thing until you work out the context. It's such a concise language. It can say a lot with fewer words than English.You must be very motivated to be self taught. That's impressive.

  • Some good Latin news are at the youtube channel ScorpioMartianus.

  • tacete (shut up)

  • A good thing to remember when talking to, and about ,others on youtube, is nihil nisi bonum.

  • I know several romances language but I completely forgot my latin, what a pity.

    So, it is so close to my languages , fisrtly the Bearnese colloquoquial of my region(Beneharnum) audio(latin)=audii (bearnese), cantamus (latin)= (que)cantam (bearnese) and secondly French and Spanish etc...

    I would like to learn a colloquial Latin and have an immersive experience with it.

  • Fiat lux.

  • Fiat lingua.

  • Scientia mea linguae latinae non fortis est

  • dicunt latinam mortem esse, necque deus necque hominum postest eam necare :) latinam amo, et latina meo amor.

  • ugg ego linguam latinam amo.... volo loquor latinam :/

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  • It says something in the Bible that the real language of God will be resurrected. I just don't know if it was Hebrew, Greek or Latin.

  • The Bible could also be wrong.

  • I believe the "real language of God" could also be Aramaic, Coptic, Sumerian, or Proto-Canaanite.

  • Their is no real language of God.

  • There is no god! Most of what is known from the New Testament was written in Greek. As for the Old Testament in Hebrew and Aramaic

  • The language of Jesus was Aramaic. Someone made a film about Jesus and he speaks Aramaic in it but I can't remember who's film it was. Could be Mel Gibson's

  • The Passion of The Christ

  • I suggest that all nations should declare that Latin will be the lingua franca of the all nations in time when people populate outside of the earth... you know, the Star Wars thing. Coz it's a rich, simple, compact language.

  • I don't know how you see Latin as a simple language.

  • I see it as simple as ABC coz Latin is the fusion of European, Arabic,Asian, African or other languages of the past. It would be better and easier to use it unlike english, which for many foreigners are vague, not phonetic, and hard to pronounce.

  • Bro, Latin is quite complicated. It helps if you speak a Romance Language, such as French or Spanish.

  • We do here in the Philippines. Filipinos speak thousands of spanish words, some retained its pronunciation and diction. Although we speak Tagalog, Provincial Language and English nowadays.

  • Translatio!

  • Owpteemeh.

  • A few years of Latin before I would be successful in engaging in discussion with my already adequate pronunciation as hear in my first video.

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