@flowingwolfpack This is a Series Called "Dogfight" its sopposed to be a General overview of some of the Greatest Air combat Missions in history and Yet no mention of the Battle of Britain,not Paranoia Its NOT about British or American its just about a Historical fact that has been omited from this Series.
And if you watched British or European Documetaries as I do you will see that they cover ALL aspects of History in an impartial way. But as I said I still love this Series.
I love all the excuses. Sun was always in the japanese pilots eyes as well as they had a rock in their boot. History is written by the winners. Always has and always will.
wish the videos would not be so biased and the quality of the animation is like crap compared to Japanese documentaries. when you actually do research you will see that the zero was the most advanced fighter plane of its time. and to anyone who is about to dislike this comment look at both sides of history
@miffymichael8 At the start of the war maybe. The Zero was a death trap. The F6F was not only a steadier aircraft but also had more power. The only advantage the Z had was in turns. I'd take a Spit over the Z.
@Araben13 To be fair to the Zero, have you ever heard of Saburo Sakai? He's one of the most experienced Japanese pilots in WWII. He literally out-flew several Hellcats with a Zero while having somewhat recovered from an injury to the eye (he was shot at, and some shrapnel hit him in his eye, if I recall).
also, the p-40 showed that it could outlast the zeke. it was only superior as long as the us and allied countries were trying to fight it with outdated worthless aircraft like th brewster buffalo!
@Zionsge not really, according to several documentaries at the start of the war the zeros killed numerous p40 in dogfights and also note that the winners of war write history
guys keep in mind that 'swede' vejtasa kicked the a6m2's ass in a damned dauntless dive bomber! it is about the man, not the machine! he was alone against 4, count them 4 zekes and he still prevailed! the zeke was a piece of crap! no self-sealing fuel tanks, no pilot armor...in a word the thing was a deathtrap once the allies lost the fear of them!
The kill ratio of the F4F-3/4 vs the A6M2 while in the Zero's favor, should be much higher if the Zero was much better.The point I was making is that when shot down, the pilot survival rate was much lower than the F4F. I disagree with your assesment of US Naval pilots at Coral Sea and Midway. They didn't have the combat experience, but they were very skilled pilots. Jimmy Thatch downed 3 A6M2's at Midway. These original Navy pilots are responsible for improved USN pilot training.
Never the less. I am quit sure all army men blow up their storys. Heroisme lays not in warfair. But in doing the wright thing. And what's wright about warfare?
It seems the war is not over with you guys. Like this it will never stop. My grandfather fought wwII. Spent 3 years in a laborcamp. Indeed the Americans blow up their storys. Knowing they allmost lost the war and only came to our aid for preserving their own country. Otherwize they would let us die. Simpel fact but true. Heils to the ones who fought bravely. And thank god we are not speaking german or japanese. Let's hounour the men who gave their lives to give us a better future.
I like the ones better that don't have the future in them, because then the people who make dogfights won't make it all biased, like "one F-22 shot down of four when going against 200 stealth SU-47s"
F6F-3 was best in class. No doubt, without it, the war in the Pacific would have been hard to win - especially not in the time frame we see in the history books. We (especially those of us that live in the Pacific regions) are truly indebted to Grumman Aircraft Engineering Corporation for this, their finest and most honored warbird. Sadly, GAEC were eventually absorbed into some aerospace corporation ... times surely have changed.
I don't get it. How come in myth-busters the gas tank never exploded (well it did eventually) but in these gas tanks always blow up? I'm not suggesting these guys are lying and it is obvious self-sealing fuel tanks made a difference but still. Are the bullets different?
@TecZero1000 I could guess it has something to do with the high octane fuel.And maybe the speed of the air mixing with the gasoline fumes that makes it easier for it to explode.Cause when you are moving at 400mph they mix alot faster creating the right air to fumes ratio faster.
@naaruu111 Aircraft carry their fuel in their wings. Some aircraft even have aux tanks near the wing roots. Bullets in the wings make an explosive combination not to mention Japanese didn't have self sealing fuel tanks like the American ones.
@13lackLight Well it depends on what fuel you use and the Jap planes didn't have self sealing fuel tanks, which is a bladder installed in the tank in the wings. Also diesel fuel is nowhere near as flammable as a fuel like gasoline.
@fsxflyer253 it was way harder to land a plane in ww 2 than it to land a plane now thats probably y it a 8 wires to make sure the pilot doesnt over shoot
@commando9990 Harder to land a high speed jet dude lol. The training in WWII sucked. Military members are far better trained today than they were at anytime during American history. 700 billion dollar budget sees to that.
The F4F Wildcat was ok, but the Hellcat was GREAT! Not that I don't like the Wildcat though. Just saying that the Hellcat was more of a match for the Zero.
@1AztecaBoxing anyone that tells you 1 plane was the best don't know anything about planes and dogfighting Each plane had good and bad points Range speed turn rate drag guns ammo P-40 you have the flying tigers P-51 tuskegee airmen, hellcat ba ba black sheep each of these planes and there men did above avg A P-51 was more of a heavy brick with 50.cals and boom and zoom flying was done The thunderbolt fighter bomber role ..the A-10 warthog is also named "thunderbolt" for the same reason
@freakyflow I would also like to add the P-38 Lightning; which is a great high altitude fighter in its own right. The F-35 "lightning" is also named after the P-38.
Besides, everyone is biased about something. It's a matter of opinion.
@Brigade35 the P-38 was another great plane ..Me myself i would rather a mossy Tse Tse with a 30mm cannon in the nose But thats just me fast over the hill tops
@kolbpilot When Air Marshal Göring asks what the two German officers needed to win the battle, the second officer says, "A squadron of Spitfires." Adolf Galland's request to Hermann Göring during the actual event
A point to ponder - If the Mitsubishi A6M 'Zero' was such a superior plane then why weren't more war resources used to develop this plane? Truly, it had fine flying characteristics but in the end was relegated to Kamikaze roles flown by inexperienced pilots. The Japanese doctrine of 'strike hard and fast to instill an overwhelming fear in the enemy' did not pan out in this ill conceived plan to wage war. Plus, the Japanese didn't have the raw material to sustain a lengthy war. Live and learn...
@mojofuel62 Japan learned a lot of hard lessons, just like Germany. Japan produced planes that were equal to their American enemy, they just couldn't make enough of them.
@mojofuel62 The Japanese already knew they could not fight a prolonged war with the U.S. so did the U.S. govt. That is why only 30% of our forces were sent to the Pacific and by the Battle of Midway happened 6 months after Pearl Harbor, the Japanese were already losing.
"and score the greatest kill ratio of any fighter in WWII" FALSE! Now I'm starting to understand why people say documentaries on History channel are a joke.
The Finnish Brewster B-239s had the world's best K/D ratio of over 32:1. The highest scoring two single airframes in history are also both Finnish B-239s.
@FFulmenTheFinnish alright A. The Buffalo is a piece of crap, thats why the Navy got rid of it, and B. the kills by the Fins were never proven factual.
@petis1976 A: the Brewsters the USA had were pieces of crap whilst the Finnish B-239s were much lighter due to entirely new equipment and removal of naval gear and B lmao, yes they were. Your troll spamming has been noted.
the hellcat was clearly needed but the wildcat did good even though it was inferior to the zero in terms of handling but it still scored a 4 to 1 kill ratio. everyone seems to overlook that...
@jdmess14hc Very true. Once the simple truth that you couldn't turnfight Jap planes and live to tell about it sunk in and pilots developed proper tactics to face the Zeke, even the 'inferior' Wildcat could more than hold its own against the Japanese.
@DareDevils0 i dont think thats true for a long time hey tore our ass up with that plane it took a long time before we had an answer andthen u couldnt go head to head with one
Let's don't forget that the over-matched Wildcat was a Zero killer, too. American pilots weren't afraid to take on the Zero in the first 2 years of the war in an F4F.
@oldcremona Actually they were at the beginning. They did it anyway, off course, because it was their duty. Then John S. Thach showed the US Navy pilots how to fight the Zeros and things didnt look as bleak.
I think what the Americans did on 1942 at the Coral Sea, Midway and Santa Cruz is far more impressive than what they did at the Marianas. Japanese had the numbers, the experience, the ships, the planes...yet they couldnt defeat an enemy that mostly had only guts and wit left.
@guppyworld540 i believe that not true the me109 has the most kills but the ratio which means units per kills goes to the hell cat there were nt that many and they were only used a short time compare to the long service records of the 109 ,,, i hope this clears that up ,, peace
Around 1943, Japan has lost a lot of veteran pilots. And as better planes like the F6F Hellcat and the F4U Corsair appeared, the Zero's lack of armor, weak firepower and slower speed compared to its competitors proved to be its disadvantage.
The Us military discovered a fully intact Japanese zero in the Aluetian islands in Alaska and took it back to the states were engineers studied the Zero's strong and weak points and american pilots used this infromation to take the Zero head on. And the Hellcat was the solution to beat the Zero at its own game.
i know a lot about Planes and all. But just a question.
What did they base the Kill Ratio on, and how do they tell you the kill ratio, is it based on death to kills, or kills to other planes, idk please respond
i was playing a game like this there was a speed gouge, missile trigger , 2 gun trigger u had to land and accelerate pretty much everything and u had 1 life not like 75 i hit down 24 then got hit then mission finished the second mission i got downed after 22 kills
most friends got downed on first mission 4-7 kills they all said i would be a good pilot i always liked the idea of being a pilot.
(my son said this and its true he got those kills)
It's kinda sad that the japanese were superior at the begining of the war, but didn't have time to develop new technologies because the war was on their ground, they only used like 3 fighters of which one was effective, and the americans used at least 5 and in far greater numbers
P51 were in high demand for European theatre and by USAAF in Pacific. There was a limit to how many P 51's could be produced in 43 to 45. Also the F6F and F4U were purpose built for carrier ops. They did a fine job and were rugged and suited for naval ops.
thats because the p-51 was not configured for carrier operations, it has no tail hook mechanism etc... the p-51 also requires a longer runway in order to take off, unlike the corsairs and hellcats...
nah wouldent work, carrier based aircraft need to be effective at low altitude. The P-51 was a long range high altitude fighter with a weakness of low altitude where it became a poor fighter
ur an idiot the mustang was originally developed for low level work it accelerated and turned better at low level just better than almost any fighter at high altitude
@P51F86F4F15F22 Yes it was originally made for that, but they were hardly effictive especially the P-51A/Bs that had many problems of poor visability in the cockpit aswell as the jamming of their machine guns. Once the Merlin engine was put in the P-51D it was built for range and high altitude escort missons. It wasnt designed for low level combat as of its weight. If you are talking about low level combat you mean as ground attack as it could carry bombs and rockets.
no later P-51B and Cs were the first mustangs to have merlin engines they were given a supercharger the P-51A was developed for low level attack and dive bombing attacks never for high altitude work because it didnt have a supercharger and the early mustangs had great range also because of its wing the Bs Cs Ds etc had larger fuel tanks and could carry external wing tanks thats why they could fly for so long
@Nelsonwmj the hellcat was actually a lot better than the mustang, it won the pacific air war by shooting down a record number of planes and it successfully did what it was meant for
the mustang on the other hand, was better in the way it developed itself by the years and had advanced technology in the next years, but it didn't do much in ww2, compared with the hellcat
@fidan2fast- hellcats had so many kills because a zero had NO armour at all... fw's even 109's in the europeon theatre had more armour.. 2nd a zero cant out perform a 109 or 190... german planes were much better than jap planes... hell the japanese dive bomber was designed after a stukka which shows even at the beginning they weren't more advanced...
id rather face a zero flown by a jap than a 109, 190, 262 comet 163, heinkels 183flown in the last months by hitler youth, etc.
@fidan2fast- not to mention a 109 flown in the early 30's out performed a 1945 a6m3 zero let alone a m2 in almost every way, speed, climb rate, turning, hub mounted cannon vs. wing mounted on the zero is way better, let alone a fw 190 which would destroy a zero
Now, if this dude is the first Hellcat to shoot down a Zero, why is he flying a F6F-5, not an -3? At least, I think he is...there are rocket pylons under the wings. But then again, I'm thinking that the rear windows had been omitted by the time the -5 came out, since they weren't really nessecary. But I'm pretty sure the F6F-3 didn't have mounts for HVARs. Mistake in the animation?
@justforever96 it's Dogfights dude. Look at the long odds episode, Old 666, bombadier gun position is wrong.there are image on google on the real position. The animator's don't do things perfectly just as close as possible.
@petis1976 Yeah, I've kinda figured that out. I just like to point out the errors, for those who don't know. And I like being all nit-picky like that! =)
@justforever96 it's Dogfights dude. Look at the long odds episode, Old 666, bombadier gun position is wrong.there are image on google on the real position. The animator's don't do things perfectly just as close as possible.
@petis1976 Yeah, I've kinda figured that out by now. But I still like to point out the errors, for the benefit of those who don't know what they're looking at. And I like to pick fights like that! =)
@justforever96 it's Dogfights dude. Look at the long odds episode, Old 666, bombadier gun position is wrong.there are image on google on the real position. The animator's don't do things perfectly just as close as possible.
plus japan's warlords were wasteful fools and exported tons of explosives and fuel, massive numbers of irreplaceable air crews, and at least three thousand aircraft in kamikaze attacks that didn't even do anything at all except barely scaring the us navy ship crews
and the usa wasnt fighting as long as the germans or the japanes...who at that point had lost most of their skilled pilots...and the usa could throw in just much more material (tanks troops planes supplies) than germany and japan together...) and yes...they had some really sweet planes and pilots... but not the best in my oppinion....
Wildcat=Zeros Bitch.
Zero=Hellcats Bitch.
Am I clear. Lol.
ThrashMetalMusic100 1 day ago
f is the 6th letter in the alphabet so the f6f is really 666
1973c0g 6 days ago
The F6F is the F-14 Tomcat's grandfather.
Amar7605 1 week ago
hell yeah cats
dh055raptor 1 week ago
THE ZERO IS THE HELLCATS BITCH!!!!!!
ThrashMetalMusic100 1 week ago
i love this series
buckethead73 1 month ago
I love these dog fight series :D they get me so pumped up for ww2 flight sims and I actually think I do better :P
PriorVideos 1 month ago
I absolutely love the "Dogfights" series
BUT for some reason the most decisive aerial Battle of WWII does'nt even get a mention
"The Battle of Britain" had its fair share of Dogfights which established some of the greatest Fighter Pilots of any era.
Galland,Molders,Hartmann,Bader,Doe,Townsend just to name a Few.
It seems that yet again that an American made series only wants to consentrate on American
Battles and Glories.
They could have featured "Eagle Squadron" if nothing else.
CheckMySix 1 month ago 2
@CheckMySix If you go to the UK them battle of briton docs are always on because they dont want people to forget
PriorVideos 1 month ago
@CheckMySix Oh I dont see Britain making American shows or movies...think about what you say.
flowingwolfpack 3 weeks ago
@flowingwolfpack This is a Series Called "Dogfight" its sopposed to be a General overview of some of the Greatest Air combat Missions in history and Yet no mention of the Battle of Britain,not Paranoia Its NOT about British or American its just about a Historical fact that has been omited from this Series.
And if you watched British or European Documetaries as I do you will see that they cover ALL aspects of History in an impartial way. But as I said I still love this Series.
CheckMySix 3 weeks ago
@CheckMySix Still British series NEVER even think about making an American movie.
flowingwolfpack 3 weeks ago
Wonder when they made this - the 'cutting edge graphics' make IL2 Pacific Fighters, a 10 year old game, look godlike.
geonerd 1 month ago
Spitfire FTW if not for its name alone! everything else sucks balls in comparison really in my opinion
stevestorey7 1 month ago
@stevestorey7 p51 that is all...
Radar11g 1 month ago
@Radar11g Hmmm the p51...it could maybe fly further but not much else. it looked pretty tho
stevestorey7 1 month ago
i have that hellcat plane in ysflight
lorrainehazelsiron 1 month ago
I love all the excuses. Sun was always in the japanese pilots eyes as well as they had a rock in their boot. History is written by the winners. Always has and always will.
TheVinoThunderbird 1 month ago
I like his comparison of shooting at a zero is like shooting a hose
AircraftDriver 2 months ago
@Araben13 the F4F is a newer plane compared to the zero. and also note that the zero almost had no losses in the start of the war
miffymichael8 2 months ago
wish the videos would not be so biased and the quality of the animation is like crap compared to Japanese documentaries. when you actually do research you will see that the zero was the most advanced fighter plane of its time. and to anyone who is about to dislike this comment look at both sides of history
miffymichael8 2 months ago
@miffymichael8 The hell are you talking about?
warwatcher91 2 months ago
@miffymichael8 At the start of the war maybe. The Zero was a death trap. The F6F was not only a steadier aircraft but also had more power. The only advantage the Z had was in turns. I'd take a Spit over the Z.
BayouCityHtown 1 day ago
@Araben13 After further research, he out-flew 15 Hellcats. Just makes you think how effective an aircraft with a really good pilot at the controls.
Brigade35 2 months ago
@Araben13 To be fair to the Zero, have you ever heard of Saburo Sakai? He's one of the most experienced Japanese pilots in WWII. He literally out-flew several Hellcats with a Zero while having somewhat recovered from an injury to the eye (he was shot at, and some shrapnel hit him in his eye, if I recall).
Brigade35 2 months ago
I LOV THIS SHOW :D and BATTLE 360!
Karipurple21 3 months ago
The Hellcats stats wouldve been a lot different if most of the Jap pilots by '44 weren't mainly novices fresh in the saddle pilots.
Im biulding a large scale F6F now, they sure were sturdy buggars alright, big strong and maneuverable ok
TheFunkhouser 3 months ago
also, the p-40 showed that it could outlast the zeke. it was only superior as long as the us and allied countries were trying to fight it with outdated worthless aircraft like th brewster buffalo!
Zionsge 3 months ago
@Zionsge not really, according to several documentaries at the start of the war the zeros killed numerous p40 in dogfights and also note that the winners of war write history
miffymichael8 2 months ago
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stevestorey7 1 month ago
guys keep in mind that 'swede' vejtasa kicked the a6m2's ass in a damned dauntless dive bomber! it is about the man, not the machine! he was alone against 4, count them 4 zekes and he still prevailed! the zeke was a piece of crap! no self-sealing fuel tanks, no pilot armor...in a word the thing was a deathtrap once the allies lost the fear of them!
Zionsge 3 months ago
The kill ratio of the F4F-3/4 vs the A6M2 while in the Zero's favor, should be much higher if the Zero was much better.The point I was making is that when shot down, the pilot survival rate was much lower than the F4F. I disagree with your assesment of US Naval pilots at Coral Sea and Midway. They didn't have the combat experience, but they were very skilled pilots. Jimmy Thatch downed 3 A6M2's at Midway. These original Navy pilots are responsible for improved USN pilot training.
rmstorms 3 months ago
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Never the less. I am quit sure all army men blow up their storys. Heroisme lays not in warfair. But in doing the wright thing. And what's wright about warfare?
FLEXANT1 3 months ago
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FLEXANT1 3 months ago
It seems the war is not over with you guys. Like this it will never stop. My grandfather fought wwII. Spent 3 years in a laborcamp. Indeed the Americans blow up their storys. Knowing they allmost lost the war and only came to our aid for preserving their own country. Otherwize they would let us die. Simpel fact but true. Heils to the ones who fought bravely. And thank god we are not speaking german or japanese. Let's hounour the men who gave their lives to give us a better future.
FLEXANT1 3 months ago
I like the ones better that don't have the future in them, because then the people who make dogfights won't make it all biased, like "one F-22 shot down of four when going against 200 stealth SU-47s"
kiwickle 4 months ago
F6F-3 was best in class. No doubt, without it, the war in the Pacific would have been hard to win - especially not in the time frame we see in the history books. We (especially those of us that live in the Pacific regions) are truly indebted to Grumman Aircraft Engineering Corporation for this, their finest and most honored warbird. Sadly, GAEC were eventually absorbed into some aerospace corporation ... times surely have changed.
taxid3rmy 4 months ago 2
@lemonie1 really? okay. i guess we didn't have 3 carriers at midway while the japanese had 4. totally wrong. sorry. i'll get it right next time.
magedogtag 4 months ago
Good series!
TaZ101SAGA 5 months ago
Wildcat, Hellcat, Bearcat, Tomcat... Hornetcat?
GangsterHutterite 6 months ago
@GangsterHutterite The Hornet was not made by Grumman, hence no "cat" into the name.
bfahren 5 months ago
@GangsterHutterite Hornet orginated at McDonnell Douglas, which is now Boeing.
336kgf 5 months ago
isnt that the carrier yorktown was sunk so these guys must have just been transferred to another carrier
redbaron785 6 months ago
This is the power and pride that America once had. The Grumman Ironworks, what we used to pump out on a regular basis.
RahRahRaharu 7 months ago
can this plane could deafeat a spit fire?
pouj4000 7 months ago
@pouj4000 Easily
Warpath2198 5 months ago
dude i seriousely admire hell cat fighters and pilots
pouj4000 7 months ago
@13lacklight the guns use a mix of high explosive and white phosphorus rounds
fsxflyer253 7 months ago
@commando9990 i dont think it was that much harder, if anything it would be easier, as youy are not moving as fast
fsxflyer253 7 months ago
I don't get it. How come in myth-busters the gas tank never exploded (well it did eventually) but in these gas tanks always blow up? I'm not suggesting these guys are lying and it is obvious self-sealing fuel tanks made a difference but still. Are the bullets different?
13lackLight 7 months ago
@13lackLight mythbusters did it with 50caliber tracer rounds, the same used on fighter planes (well 30-50cal.)
TecZero1000 7 months ago
@TecZero1000 I could guess it has something to do with the high octane fuel.And maybe the speed of the air mixing with the gasoline fumes that makes it easier for it to explode.Cause when you are moving at 400mph they mix alot faster creating the right air to fumes ratio faster.
naaruu111 7 months ago
@naaruu111 Aircraft carry their fuel in their wings. Some aircraft even have aux tanks near the wing roots. Bullets in the wings make an explosive combination not to mention Japanese didn't have self sealing fuel tanks like the American ones.
Warpath2198 5 months ago
@naaruu111 Aircraft don't use any high octane fuel. Kerosene/Diesel mixture is what is used. Modern aircraft use JP-8 and JP-5.
Warpath2198 5 months ago
@13lackLight Well it depends on what fuel you use and the Jap planes didn't have self sealing fuel tanks, which is a bladder installed in the tank in the wings. Also diesel fuel is nowhere near as flammable as a fuel like gasoline.
Warpath2198 5 months ago
why do ww2 carriers have 8 or so wires where modern carriers have 4?
fsxflyer253 7 months ago
@fsxflyer253 it was way harder to land a plane in ww 2 than it to land a plane now thats probably y it a 8 wires to make sure the pilot doesnt over shoot
commando9990 7 months ago
@commando9990 Harder to land a high speed jet dude lol. The training in WWII sucked. Military members are far better trained today than they were at anytime during American history. 700 billion dollar budget sees to that.
Warpath2198 5 months ago
isnt it more like: ''when in doubt, win the battle"?
mrgeorgemacho 7 months ago
thnx
rediaomn8 8 months ago
Like the Spartan King use to say "Let's put that name into the test!" >:3
strikezero01 8 months ago
My ex wife's name was Betty. Like the Japanese Betty bomber, she was slow, ugly and a pain in the ass.
alneal100 8 months ago
@alneal100 lol shame on ya!
debzeppeliniv 7 months ago
it takes 5 to make an ace
erikclay2003 8 months ago
Ace with 9 kills, its 10 kills to make an ace
theproudicelander 8 months ago
@theproudicelander Get educated. It's 5 for Ace. 10 is Double Ace, 15 is Triple Ace.
haters123 8 months ago
To be honest, the Wildcat held its own against the Zero; it was rugged. The same thing can be said for the P-40, too.
lionax736 9 months ago
The F4F Wildcat was ok, but the Hellcat was GREAT! Not that I don't like the Wildcat though. Just saying that the Hellcat was more of a match for the Zero.
Crazylegs973 9 months ago
So, was that kill-ratio due to the Hellcat or the badly trained Japanese pilots at that point in the war?
hipcat13 9 months ago
@hipcat13 well they had to get to a point where they had naieve pilots, just to make a point
mrspritezero 9 months ago
@hipcat13 Both, American pilots had killed many of their veteran pilots by this point in the war. American pilots were just better.
Warpath2198 5 months ago
@Warpath2198 omg hahahaha
bobohomania 5 months ago
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@bobohomania Best response you have? My 14 year old nephew can do better.
Warpath2198 5 months ago
@bobohomania Looks like you don't know the history of the Pacific in WWII. Sad
Warpath2198 5 months ago
@Warpath2198 awww dont be sad cupcake
bobohomania 5 months ago
@bobohomania Your trailing fails, Trolls are suppose to be witty, not repeat what original trolls have already came up with. So yeah I'm sad for you.
Warpath2198 5 months ago
SO MANY SMART HISTORIANS...INTERNET HISTORIANS LOL
bobohomania 9 months ago 2
@bobohomania idiot
Warpath2198 5 months ago
@Warpath2198 you smart? internet historian too?
bobohomania 5 months ago
SO WITH 1 WAS THE BEST ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
The P-40
The P-51
The Hellcat
The Thunderbolt
1AztecaBoxing 10 months ago
@1AztecaBoxing anyone that tells you 1 plane was the best don't know anything about planes and dogfighting Each plane had good and bad points Range speed turn rate drag guns ammo P-40 you have the flying tigers P-51 tuskegee airmen, hellcat ba ba black sheep each of these planes and there men did above avg A P-51 was more of a heavy brick with 50.cals and boom and zoom flying was done The thunderbolt fighter bomber role ..the A-10 warthog is also named "thunderbolt" for the same reason
freakyflow 10 months ago
@freakyflow I would also like to add the P-38 Lightning; which is a great high altitude fighter in its own right. The F-35 "lightning" is also named after the P-38.
Besides, everyone is biased about something. It's a matter of opinion.
Brigade35 9 months ago
@Brigade35 the P-38 was another great plane ..Me myself i would rather a mossy Tse Tse with a 30mm cannon in the nose But thats just me fast over the hill tops
freakyflow 9 months ago
@freakyflow sorry 57mm cannon
freakyflow 9 months ago
@freakyflow Actually, the P-38 is armed with 4 50 caliber machine guns and a 20 MM cannon in the nose, which is an advantage over wing mounted guns.
Brigade35 9 months ago
@Brigade35 P-38 was a pretty good throw together plane in the beginning for the Air Force. Later the P-47 and P-51 made it obsolete of course.
Warpath2198 5 months ago
@freakyflow It's not the krate, it's the man in the krate. Manfred von Richthofen.
kolbpilot 5 months ago
@kolbpilot When Air Marshal Göring asks what the two German officers needed to win the battle, the second officer says, "A squadron of Spitfires." Adolf Galland's request to Hermann Göring during the actual event
freakyflow 5 months ago
and: Does anyone know of the Corsairs kill ratio? 'Whistling Death' was no slouch either. Ty.
mojofuel62 10 months ago
A point to ponder - If the Mitsubishi A6M 'Zero' was such a superior plane then why weren't more war resources used to develop this plane? Truly, it had fine flying characteristics but in the end was relegated to Kamikaze roles flown by inexperienced pilots. The Japanese doctrine of 'strike hard and fast to instill an overwhelming fear in the enemy' did not pan out in this ill conceived plan to wage war. Plus, the Japanese didn't have the raw material to sustain a lengthy war. Live and learn...
mojofuel62 10 months ago
@mojofuel62 Japan learned a lot of hard lessons, just like Germany. Japan produced planes that were equal to their American enemy, they just couldn't make enough of them.
kolbpilot 5 months ago
@mojofuel62 The Japanese already knew they could not fight a prolonged war with the U.S. so did the U.S. govt. That is why only 30% of our forces were sent to the Pacific and by the Battle of Midway happened 6 months after Pearl Harbor, the Japanese were already losing.
Warpath2198 5 months ago
zero is fast as hell. but if you hit it itll light up like a matchbox
BRPGames 10 months ago
these japenese planes were made of slik paper
thelordofepic 10 months ago
@Leparas good to see that some one agrees with me.i play dogfight games,but i dont think "im a ace pilot that kill noobs LOLOLOLOL"
gudam3 10 months ago
hey history u got a video of the f4u corsair
redbaron785 11 months ago
The F6F made a good job out there! A 19 to 1 kill ratio is until now unbeaten! It is definately the best aircraft on its role!
886lulubelle 11 months ago
the kill ratio was 19 to 1
DumDumNews1 11 months ago
3 ppl got shot down by a hellcat
DKbandit 1 year ago
"and score the greatest kill ratio of any fighter in WWII" FALSE! Now I'm starting to understand why people say documentaries on History channel are a joke.
The Finnish Brewster B-239s had the world's best K/D ratio of over 32:1. The highest scoring two single airframes in history are also both Finnish B-239s.
FFulmenTheFinnish 1 year ago
@FFulmenTheFinnish If you do research you'd figure out that A. The Buffalo was a piece of crap, and B. Its reported kills are greatly exaggerated!
petis1976 1 year ago
@FFulmenTheFinnish alright A. The Buffalo is a piece of crap, thats why the Navy got rid of it, and B. the kills by the Fins were never proven factual.
petis1976 1 year ago
@petis1976 A: the Brewsters the USA had were pieces of crap whilst the Finnish B-239s were much lighter due to entirely new equipment and removal of naval gear and B lmao, yes they were. Your troll spamming has been noted.
FFulmenTheFinnish 1 year ago
those Zekes better run when they see the Hellcat they are going to die Die Zekes Die.
geomodelrailroader 1 year ago
this guy looks like a ghost, and sound like a ghost
MegaAnthraxSlayer 1 year ago
the hellcat was clearly needed but the wildcat did good even though it was inferior to the zero in terms of handling but it still scored a 4 to 1 kill ratio. everyone seems to overlook that...
jdmess14hc 1 year ago
@jdmess14hc Very true. Once the simple truth that you couldn't turnfight Jap planes and live to tell about it sunk in and pilots developed proper tactics to face the Zeke, even the 'inferior' Wildcat could more than hold its own against the Japanese.
antred11 10 months ago
in the right hands, the Zero is a very deadly weapon. any weapon is! it's just a matter of who uses it.... aces on both sides know this.
FilipinoZeroFighter 1 year ago
ZERO IS LIGHT BUT LAME NO ARMOR
DareDevils0 1 year ago
@DareDevils0 i dont think thats true for a long time hey tore our ass up with that plane it took a long time before we had an answer andthen u couldnt go head to head with one
zulfiqar501 1 year ago
shoot obama
eds1994fatboy 1 year ago
I wish I could figure out a way to make sweet love to a Hellcat,kiss it,caress it,and sing"Baby I love your way"to it.
Pancerni 1 year ago
16 000 000 km2 ??? WTF A MAJOR battlefield. R.I.O. (rest in ocean)
fredrunlikehell 1 year ago
Let's don't forget that the over-matched Wildcat was a Zero killer, too. American pilots weren't afraid to take on the Zero in the first 2 years of the war in an F4F.
oldcremona 1 year ago
@oldcremona Actually they were at the beginning. They did it anyway, off course, because it was their duty. Then John S. Thach showed the US Navy pilots how to fight the Zeros and things didnt look as bleak.
I think what the Americans did on 1942 at the Coral Sea, Midway and Santa Cruz is far more impressive than what they did at the Marianas. Japanese had the numbers, the experience, the ships, the planes...yet they couldnt defeat an enemy that mostly had only guts and wit left.
bfahren 1 year ago
@oldcremona Well said!
okaay3 1 year ago
nice pls subscribe
hazza5199 1 year ago
lol 5000 kills jg.52 had 10000 kills and thats just a single unit all flying the bf 109
Mattebubben 1 year ago
@Mattebubben look up the tunderbolt ,,,,
lesterclaypool1 1 year ago
@Mattebubben look up the thunderbolt ,,,,
lesterclaypool1 1 year ago
lies! biggest kill ratio was the me 109
guppyworld540 1 year ago
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lesterclaypool1 1 year ago
@guppyworld540 i believe that not true the me109 has the most kills but the ratio which means units per kills goes to the hell cat there were nt that many and they were only used a short time compare to the long service records of the 109 ,,, i hope this clears that up ,, peace
lesterclaypool1 1 year ago
Around 1943, Japan has lost a lot of veteran pilots. And as better planes like the F6F Hellcat and the F4U Corsair appeared, the Zero's lack of armor, weak firepower and slower speed compared to its competitors proved to be its disadvantage.
Jackie68450 1 year ago
the show fails to mention how the design of the f6f was derived from a crashed japanese prototype from the Aleutian islands
1airplane21 1 year ago
Hellcat- the solution to the Zero.
haynes1776 1 year ago
You got lucky Duncan.
raulox71 1 year ago
The Us military discovered a fully intact Japanese zero in the Aluetian islands in Alaska and took it back to the states were engineers studied the Zero's strong and weak points and american pilots used this infromation to take the Zero head on. And the Hellcat was the solution to beat the Zero at its own game.
haynes1776 1 year ago
i know a lot about Planes and all. But just a question.
What did they base the Kill Ratio on, and how do they tell you the kill ratio, is it based on death to kills, or kills to other planes, idk please respond
viewman5 1 year ago
@viewman5 its probably how many planes every f6f has shot down compared to how many f6fs have been lost
1airplane21 1 year ago
Thank you so very much for these posts. I am in love with the P-51 Mustang, and you have a wonderful collection of footage. Thanx again ~
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OUTSIDETHEBOCKS 1 year ago
i was playing a game like this there was a speed gouge, missile trigger , 2 gun trigger u had to land and accelerate pretty much everything and u had 1 life not like 75 i hit down 24 then got hit then mission finished the second mission i got downed after 22 kills
most friends got downed on first mission 4-7 kills they all said i would be a good pilot i always liked the idea of being a pilot.
(my son said this and its true he got those kills)
youssef25600 1 year ago
lol the Japanese ace only became an ace cuz of cheap tactics
driftkingz109 1 year ago
"When in doubt,win the war"
Good motto.
Keisari70 1 year ago 9
@thar777, I don't think the US Airforce existed yet.
Warblade118 1 year ago
wasnt formed until 1947
P51F86F4F15F22 1 year ago
Props to Dick O'Kane & the Tang. They were @the assault on Truk. They saved a lot of downed American pilots from being captured.
neomuttley 2 years ago
It's kinda sad that the japanese were superior at the begining of the war, but didn't have time to develop new technologies because the war was on their ground, they only used like 3 fighters of which one was effective, and the americans used at least 5 and in far greater numbers
fidan2fast 2 years ago
fred sucks
ig09able 2 years ago 2
fred sucks his moms dick.... SMOSH RULES!!!!!!!!!
KLM777300er 2 years ago
P51 were in high demand for European theatre and by USAAF in Pacific. There was a limit to how many P 51's could be produced in 43 to 45. Also the F6F and F4U were purpose built for carrier ops. They did a fine job and were rugged and suited for naval ops.
thar777 2 years ago 18
They should have used P-51 Mustangs on carriers... that would put the Japanese Air Force and Navy out of existence like you wouldn't believe...
Nelsonwmj 2 years ago 2
@Nelsonwmj
thats because the p-51 was not configured for carrier operations, it has no tail hook mechanism etc... the p-51 also requires a longer runway in order to take off, unlike the corsairs and hellcats...
wesjune111 2 years ago 6
@wesjune111 Along with its inline V12 engine, which was unsuited to carrier ops. All USN aircraft were powered by radial engines, like the PW R-2800.
ironfalcon100 1 year ago
@Nelsonwmj The U.S. navy insisted on air cooled radials in their carrier fighters. They were more likely to bring a pilot home with damage.
flyinDPOD 2 years ago 2
nah wouldent work, carrier based aircraft need to be effective at low altitude. The P-51 was a long range high altitude fighter with a weakness of low altitude where it became a poor fighter
Mikester750 2 years ago
ur an idiot the mustang was originally developed for low level work it accelerated and turned better at low level just better than almost any fighter at high altitude
P51F86F4F15F22 1 year ago
@P51F86F4F15F22 Yes it was originally made for that, but they were hardly effictive especially the P-51A/Bs that had many problems of poor visability in the cockpit aswell as the jamming of their machine guns. Once the Merlin engine was put in the P-51D it was built for range and high altitude escort missons. It wasnt designed for low level combat as of its weight. If you are talking about low level combat you mean as ground attack as it could carry bombs and rockets.
Mikester750 1 year ago
no later P-51B and Cs were the first mustangs to have merlin engines they were given a supercharger the P-51A was developed for low level attack and dive bombing attacks never for high altitude work because it didnt have a supercharger and the early mustangs had great range also because of its wing the Bs Cs Ds etc had larger fuel tanks and could carry external wing tanks thats why they could fly for so long
P51F86F4F15F22 1 year ago
@Nelsonwmj the hellcat was actually a lot better than the mustang, it won the pacific air war by shooting down a record number of planes and it successfully did what it was meant for
the mustang on the other hand, was better in the way it developed itself by the years and had advanced technology in the next years, but it didn't do much in ww2, compared with the hellcat
fidan2fast 2 years ago
bullshit the mustang only had 2 years effective years to gather kills the hellcat had almost 4 years
P51F86F4F15F22 1 year ago
@fidan2fast- hellcats had so many kills because a zero had NO armour at all... fw's even 109's in the europeon theatre had more armour.. 2nd a zero cant out perform a 109 or 190... german planes were much better than jap planes... hell the japanese dive bomber was designed after a stukka which shows even at the beginning they weren't more advanced...
id rather face a zero flown by a jap than a 109, 190, 262 comet 163, heinkels 183flown in the last months by hitler youth, etc.
51mikep 1 year ago
@fidan2fast- not to mention a 109 flown in the early 30's out performed a 1945 a6m3 zero let alone a m2 in almost every way, speed, climb rate, turning, hub mounted cannon vs. wing mounted on the zero is way better, let alone a fw 190 which would destroy a zero
51mikep 1 year ago
@51mikep ok ok I get the point : P
fidan2fast 1 year ago
He forgot to menturn another clame to fame for the Hellcat, it boasted more Aces then any other fighter. I think it was about 305.
TheGroundedAviator 2 years ago
@TheGroundedAviator Actually antother Hellcat ace mentioned that later in the episode.
KGero478 2 years ago
Diden't see that part at the time.
TheGroundedAviator 2 years ago
Now, if this dude is the first Hellcat to shoot down a Zero, why is he flying a F6F-5, not an -3? At least, I think he is...there are rocket pylons under the wings. But then again, I'm thinking that the rear windows had been omitted by the time the -5 came out, since they weren't really nessecary. But I'm pretty sure the F6F-3 didn't have mounts for HVARs. Mistake in the animation?
justforever96 2 years ago
Most likely, When this show was still on, they were always very accurate with their statistics.
ROFLbowtie 2 years ago
no the f6f-3 had rocket launchers, just not the high velocity aerial rockets, probably just 3'' rockets that are not rapid firing like the hvar
thepikachuvoltage16 2 years ago
@justforever96 it's Dogfights dude. Look at the long odds episode, Old 666, bombadier gun position is wrong.there are image on google on the real position. The animator's don't do things perfectly just as close as possible.
petis1976 1 year ago
@petis1976 Yeah, I've kinda figured that out. I just like to point out the errors, for those who don't know. And I like being all nit-picky like that! =)
justforever96 1 year ago
@justforever96 it's Dogfights dude. Look at the long odds episode, Old 666, bombadier gun position is wrong.there are image on google on the real position. The animator's don't do things perfectly just as close as possible.
petis1976 1 year ago
@petis1976 Yeah, I've kinda figured that out by now. But I still like to point out the errors, for the benefit of those who don't know what they're looking at. And I like to pick fights like that! =)
justforever96 1 year ago
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@justforever96 it's Dogfights dude. Look at the long odds episode, Old 666, bombadier gun position is wrong.there are image on google on the real position. The animator's don't do things perfectly just as close as possible.
petis1976 1 year ago
My favorite planes on the pacific were the F4U and The F6F.
Exodus2021 2 years ago 2
the resson we won was because we had armour on our gass tanks
sergantsnipesalot 2 years ago
there's actually more to it than that. Better armor, technology, upgraded parts and engines, great pilots with good training, and much more.
Historystartsnow 2 years ago 30
plus japan's warlords were wasteful fools and exported tons of explosives and fuel, massive numbers of irreplaceable air crews, and at least three thousand aircraft in kamikaze attacks that didn't even do anything at all except barely scaring the us navy ship crews
thepikachuvoltage16 2 years ago
and the usa wasnt fighting as long as the germans or the japanes...who at that point had lost most of their skilled pilots...and the usa could throw in just much more material (tanks troops planes supplies) than germany and japan together...) and yes...they had some really sweet planes and pilots... but not the best in my oppinion....
FireXtheRipper 1 year ago