Those laws are so incorrect in there assumption that it is stealing water from downstream. it is putting it back down deep into the aquifer where it will still go down stream. With that kind of thinking it makes me think they'd clear cut forests just to keep the trees from drinking the water.
In some western states, long held tradition has led to a patchwork of laws resulting in downstream users effectively having first use rights to local rainwater.
You could be fined for simply watering landscape plantings with a flexible downspout, because, "legally", you're "stealing" water from those downstream.
Don't even think about putting out a barrel, unless you like "Imperial Entanglements".
Im starting to think our whole society esp the lawmakers have gone insane...This is how I see it, If man's law becomes oppressive to man and goes against God's laws, I choose to override man's law as ineffective and not follow it, it violates my persuit of happiness which is in my Constitution and is my inalienable right, much like my right to bear arms against "tyranny". If it was good enough for George, it's good enough for me, lol.
I would think that would cause alot of mosquitos..have u noticed that yet?
About it being illegal, i never heard of such a thing, lol..to collect rain water falling from the sky to your own property being made a law stating its illegal is insane,...other people "downstream" can collect their own water w/barrels if they want...that is just silly..what next?? illegal to breathe someone's air??? hahaha
That berm on the edge of your property seems a liitle rude. Here in Utah where harvesting rain water is viewed as a theft of down stream claim holders one would be held in poor esteem to hold the water back like that. However I know you are a considerate person and that this type of water conservation actually benefits down stream claims. Here a focus on storm water management would allow similar earthworks. Diverting water for a productive purpose requires permission.
@DrakeDorosh Perhaps the people downstream should take some initiative and trap some rain water themselves... just a thought. Instead of being helpless, it's time for the People to empower themselves and rely on themselves.
Thanks for reading my comment. Should have said Here in Utah a focus.. I totally agree. And Utah sucks. We do have lots of engineering projects and multimillion dollar water tanks. One care dealer thought he might use the water on his roof to wash cars and created a big flap because it was "illegal". Like you said time for people to empower themselves. Its framed unfortunately as a property issue. Pretty bad isn't it?
I'm not kidding! I am soooo mad about this I could scream. Google rain collecting illegal and you will not believe your eyes. I thing what you are doing is great. I should have put that in the first comment.
Very cool indeed! If we even got that much water, I might consider doing all that sort of work here,if I could get my b/f to accept it, since I've already taken over most of the yard!
Nice garden. Clay is actually a problem for me in my little patch(I have a few short vids). I think I've got it sorted this year & found a nice balance.
Nice work. The next step might be to disconnect your sinks, bathtub and washing machine drainwater (graywater) and route it outside for summer irrigation of trees, etc. Yes, it's illegal, but who would know as long as it is all safely reused and retained?
Is the soil clay under the topsoil you removed? I'm wondering how/why the water just doesn't just soak clear down. And, do you have rain frequent enough in the summer to keep your berries watered? I find it fascinating what you did to capture the rainwater!
We did dig down to the clay line in our raingarden. After a few days the water is completely absorbed into the ground, which is better than having it run off into the ditch, and off the property. The clay does a wonderful job of holding water, so any water that does soak through does so very slowly. Until the berry plants mature we will only water them if necessary. However, once the roots of the new berry plants reach their full depth they will be on their own, even in a mild drought.
look up hugelkultur and combine the methods
ASKWildeHilde 4 days ago
Those laws are so incorrect in there assumption that it is stealing water from downstream. it is putting it back down deep into the aquifer where it will still go down stream. With that kind of thinking it makes me think they'd clear cut forests just to keep the trees from drinking the water.
ASKWildeHilde 4 days ago
Great video, nice design.
In some western states, long held tradition has led to a patchwork of laws resulting in downstream users effectively having first use rights to local rainwater.
You could be fined for simply watering landscape plantings with a flexible downspout, because, "legally", you're "stealing" water from those downstream.
Don't even think about putting out a barrel, unless you like "Imperial Entanglements".
tipafo 2 years ago
@tipafo good permacultural design can actually increase rain capture and to-stream water via ground water.
wkjohnston 2 years ago
Im starting to think our whole society esp the lawmakers have gone insane...This is how I see it, If man's law becomes oppressive to man and goes against God's laws, I choose to override man's law as ineffective and not follow it, it violates my persuit of happiness which is in my Constitution and is my inalienable right, much like my right to bear arms against "tyranny". If it was good enough for George, it's good enough for me, lol.
kokonutbaby1 2 years ago 5
@kokonutbaby1 the zoneing laws suck too
thedruidherbalist 1 year ago
I would think that would cause alot of mosquitos..have u noticed that yet?
About it being illegal, i never heard of such a thing, lol..to collect rain water falling from the sky to your own property being made a law stating its illegal is insane,...other people "downstream" can collect their own water w/barrels if they want...that is just silly..what next?? illegal to breathe someone's air??? hahaha
kokonutbaby1 2 years ago 2
the berm is the BEST part!!!
88simran 2 years ago 3
That berm on the edge of your property seems a liitle rude. Here in Utah where harvesting rain water is viewed as a theft of down stream claim holders one would be held in poor esteem to hold the water back like that. However I know you are a considerate person and that this type of water conservation actually benefits down stream claims. Here a focus on storm water management would allow similar earthworks. Diverting water for a productive purpose requires permission.
DrakeDorosh 2 years ago
@DrakeDorosh Perhaps the people downstream should take some initiative and trap some rain water themselves... just a thought. Instead of being helpless, it's time for the People to empower themselves and rely on themselves.
TheUnNerved 1 year ago
Thanks for reading my comment. Should have said Here in Utah a focus.. I totally agree. And Utah sucks. We do have lots of engineering projects and multimillion dollar water tanks. One care dealer thought he might use the water on his roof to wash cars and created a big flap because it was "illegal". Like you said time for people to empower themselves. Its framed unfortunately as a property issue. Pretty bad isn't it?
DrakeDorosh 1 year ago
love the idea!
greensings 2 years ago
I'm not kidding! I am soooo mad about this I could scream. Google rain collecting illegal and you will not believe your eyes. I thing what you are doing is great. I should have put that in the first comment.
holt325 2 years ago
depending on where you live what you are doing is deemed illegal.
holt325 2 years ago
How could this possibly be illegal??
ShushLorraine 2 years ago
it's illegal to 'water harvest' in some states.
but it IS perfectly legal to own multiple firearms, so you're ok
eightwillwontcannot 2 years ago
weird
ShushLorraine 2 years ago
Very cool indeed! If we even got that much water, I might consider doing all that sort of work here,if I could get my b/f to accept it, since I've already taken over most of the yard!
HomesteadProvocateur 2 years ago
Nice garden. Clay is actually a problem for me in my little patch(I have a few short vids). I think I've got it sorted this year & found a nice balance.
I'll post the progress.
Simp44 2 years ago
Nice work. The next step might be to disconnect your sinks, bathtub and washing machine drainwater (graywater) and route it outside for summer irrigation of trees, etc. Yes, it's illegal, but who would know as long as it is all safely reused and retained?
baubosophia 3 years ago
Is the soil clay under the topsoil you removed? I'm wondering how/why the water just doesn't just soak clear down. And, do you have rain frequent enough in the summer to keep your berries watered? I find it fascinating what you did to capture the rainwater!
cookingupastory 3 years ago
We did dig down to the clay line in our raingarden. After a few days the water is completely absorbed into the ground, which is better than having it run off into the ditch, and off the property. The clay does a wonderful job of holding water, so any water that does soak through does so very slowly. Until the berry plants mature we will only water them if necessary. However, once the roots of the new berry plants reach their full depth they will be on their own, even in a mild drought.
MidwestPermaculture 3 years ago
Excellent! Thanks for sharing...gives me ideas!
cookingupastory 3 years ago