LB Bad - New Age Of Faith ( Smokebelch II Original)

[RedBryn]

The original, & THE BEST!

[sphey10]

Top tune cheers

[mkjhagfv]

its a very sad song without being depressing , more relaxing , mojo filters remix is brilliant although this still sounds fresh, its great

[nosher70]

Hi there, I shall always remember my clubbing days of the early nineties and late 80"s fondly,however it is a sad day for me indeed-i thought i knew my house music.Smokebelch will forever now be a tainted memory..........

:(

[ihatehumans11213]

THIS MY SHEET!!-lb

[amcurley100]

Still a cracking piece of Music.

Andrew Used to use this in his DJ sets prior to making Smokebelch.

In response to a number of posts saying this was ripped off.

Pls go and check the writing credit on the Sabres release, it clearly states

that the the track was written by Lamont Booker not by Sabres.

Its a cover not a rip off

Lamont Booker would have been paid through his publishing company.

[MrWobbler82]

@amcurley100

But he wasn't paid through his publishing company. Read Lamont's comments above where uploader comments is. I've a lot of time for Weatherall which makes it all the more difficult to understand this.

[BadBalenax]

@amcurley100 Yes your right, BUT ...The TRUE STORY OF ...is...LOOK DEEPER! 1 example...THEE original CAFE DEL MAR CD/ALBUM release. Now READ who is listed as the writer...I'll give U a hint, there are 3 names, and none are with the intials L & B. So with THAT knowledge, WHO DO YOU THINK GOT PAID BY WHO's PUBLISHER? Want MORE examplessssssssssss? (thats an honest sarcasm! -the question of wanting MORE xamples) ANYBODY got questions? write me. I THANK U all (& Andy) 4 LISTENING!!

[robbieroofinsulation]

lovely, thanks = )

[glensgrooves]

I'm guilty of selling this to Mr Weatherall when I was working in a record shop in London. I met LB and he was grateful for the royalties. I also have this record for sale on Discogs but it's not cheap. discogs.com/sell/item/13064710­?ev=bp_det

[HeartMind999]

@glensgrooves lol what a great memory, so are you guilty for the weatherall copy? revisionism until death

[rwilhite]

Brilliant track!! It broke my heart a little to find out Smokebelch was plagiarized, as I've loved it for years...but I'm glad to hear the real thing. Massive props to LB!

[TheFinkangel]

Firstly I can't believe that Smokebelch II wasn't an original composition, secondly there was never any suggestion in any of the thousands of reviews/Interviews back in the day. A bit sad really.

Still sounds fresh and original today LB Bad.....

[303jewels]

This E.P is the bollocks, I have it and I love it. there is a lot of respect in England for the real U.S house producers (from the real house music lovers)

I'm with ressla re: weatherall.

Oh and thanks to carl cox burningman is now commercial!!!!!!

Either way this track will get a spin at Bman this year, Sabres wont get a look in!

Peace n luv

[TheTigercave]

great tune...

[HeartMind999]

so now im happy to say weatherall S.U.C.K.S. *grin*

[HeartMind999]

so is weatherall a lamer? i think yes after this

[rethink621]

Yes, all his subsequent work will be tainted with the stench of plagarism and wretched uncertainty after this revelation.

[HeartMind999]

what a shame. in 2002-2003 i chatted with him on soulseek a lot of days and he asked me always for a lot of music to download so i suggested him some tunes of Villalobos that wasn't famous in that period among others and after few months he did the remix of Dexter by Villalobos and vanished, he said he wanted to go to S.Francisco

[AlexisNembrode]

i still like the s.o.p. versions. Smokebelch II is credited as songwriter to Lamont Booker in the albums and singles.

[BadBalenax]

...credited as songwriter in SOME of the MANY releases!

BELIEVE ME, I know.

[AlexisNembrode]

@BadBalenax i do! Which is a shame really. Lamont Booker is very very underrated. After this song, I searched his dicography...he his truly an incredible producer.

[fred166]

weird, i always knew that Smokebelch was a cover version. And i'm pretty sure that it was credited as such on the 12" i had back then. Still, it's really sweet hearing the original, gonna have to try and track down a copy now!

[krunchienut]

This is well naughty. Props to LB Bad for the tune. The Sabers must have made a packet off it. Sabers minus Smokebelch = not very much for quite a few folks. I bet it sold them a lot of records and got them a lot of gigs.

(Bobbie Konders The Poem for my fave on NuGroove, Ron Trent killed it too on the remix of that one)

[tintin6699]

This original version with the Xylophone is even better than the Cafe Del Mar remixed versions.

[DjChoci]

ouch

[Goorobsdad]

Amazing! Just goes to show there is always something to learn!

[DjChoci]

what an enormous composition,someone should post the video to the sabres version....

[BadBalenax]

January 09 Mr. BAD here. AW did have my name as writer on SAB original. WELL, some versions. So I did get, well, some money. NOT much compared2what SAB got! I ONLY asked him for A gig at HIS monthly. If ANYone heard/seen me play at his YEARS gone on monthly PUT YA HANDS UP! Look AW, nobodies hands are UP. & I wonder who got spiritual off of that UK tv show LOVED UP? FORGOT MY NAME THERE TOO? Well, let your LOVE LIGHT shine, I ain´t hatin...just disappointed in many of U humans! P.O.D

[DjChoci]

what a chewn mr b

[fink4ward]

Mr Bad you are a genius sir, thank you for New Age House, an awesome record to this day. Peace. Simon

[TNPA10]

Well I never knew that.

[DjChoci]

pleasure....

[KRISKEO]

Here's a true story concerning 'The True Story of House Music'/ Smokebelch

Back in 93 in a previous life I was doing the record shop rounds in Soho when who should I bump in to on Berwick St clutching 4 or 5 TP's and looking very pleased with himself but AW.

He invited me up to the SofP office to give me an exclusive preview of said TP .Once in the office AW played me SB ,I recognised it immediately. Aw was mortified and mumbled something about 'homage,tribute etc'.

best Nu G 33 1/3 Queens

[DjChoci]

I often wonder who played them it first,(mistake).Perhaps you visited my shop....?

[vjfit]

cool. i get you now.

yeah total rip.

i just ctrl "C"ed LB Bad- Body Mechanix (The True Story of House ...and went to a different track off the ep(?).

so now i can totally see where your coming from.

hearing this detracts from the sabers version, but i think i still prefer it.

this, although an original composition sounds a bit like something of zelda. maybe it was so ahead of it's time the technology was not ready to do the melody justice.

thanks for the education.

[DjChoci]

debatable whether this was nu grooves finest release,but it sure was/is up there..a very inspiring/emotive piece which is why they plagiarised it...

[DjChoci]

l b bad the master and pioneer.........

[trancebunny3000]

You are kidding me right? When was this released? If ever it was that is. I LOVE Smoke Belch, but this is so clearly the origin of it. And no credit for lb bad on S B? That's TOO bad folks. S o B shld hang their heads.  I want a copy of this.......

[malcooool]

well,,,what can ya say,a rip off, a masterful piece of work by lb,and i never knew this was done before s o p.

[sync303]

respect.

beautiful.

[mogsy1975]

cant believe sabres ripped this off, and didnt acknowleged them enough.

[88to92]

LB Bad is well underrated imo. Quite big on the pirates back in the day here in the uk, but needs more props imo :) Not played enough in later years.

[koolzainski]

this is very trippy new age sounding, different than most NU Groove releases, refreshingly so.

[chrismentler]

thanx so much ressla i thought i new all about electronic music. I was wrong thank you so much for enlighting me. Yours the irish man.

[taip3n]

News to me to! The Sabres blew me away, it made me, like Aphex/Warp did in my tastes. Also, then, in '93 got the spring Weatherall mix which taught me what real music making/Djing was about. Been spreading the word ever since. But now, Andy W/guys, do the right thing.. By the way L.B. Bad, yours is better - there was something missing! Now I know what it is. Thanks Ressla for putting me right and knowing the historical truth. A. W. you're still my man but Favourated, to still spread the word.

[derwall2005]

wow, this is news to me, i didnt realise that sabres didnt write this track. its always been a fav of mine. i have a 7inch mix ( beatless mix ) which is great but i already like the original better. years ago i saw an obscure record label's logo (pre sabres) and it was very obvious that sabres had taken the inspiration (nicest way to put it )for the sabres logo straight off someone elses artwork. great post

[dust95]

Learn something new everyday! I really liked smokebelch when it came out but it was never complete somehow... Such a strong story but somehow lacking in telling it....Another one solved.

[BadBalenax]

Thank U Ressla! But you must know, and heres the sad shit, WEATHERALL & company & CAFE DEL MAR DID NOT give me any props and (only THEY know WHAT ELSE they didn´t give ME) from the 1st release(s) of his cover! Same as MANY of the remixes and other versions we have heard! BUT PROPS TO U for THIS. I´m mentally working on a vid clip for it! AND if ya see the film PUMP UP THE VOLUME, its a documentary that says & shows pretty much THE TRUE STORY OF HOUSE MUSIC.

[ressla]

I hear ya. At the time Weatherall gave loads of interviews with the music press where they all raved about how good smokebelch II was. In none of those interviews did anyone mention the LB Bad track.They just seemed to want to bask in the praise they were getting.

The funniest thing I read was a piece written by a music journalist who thought Lamont Booker was LTJ Bukem ! He went on for ages as to how much the Sabres respected Bukem!!

[kraftwerkbot]

@ressla

I respected Weatherall and enjoyed his dying in various places during the 90s but not giving credit here.....fkin cnut

[ConnorTreacy]

@kraftwerkbot What places did he die in?

[kraftwerkbot]

@ConnorTreacy actually that was a typo, it should have read: dJing :/

[odyjamess]

@BadBalenax When I went to college in Manchester I dined out on the fact that David Holmes - a man from near my home had improved / half composed such a classic - I read all the A.W. interviews - there was no mention of LB Bad - we were the post De La Soul generation - we knew sampling and we knew theft-and we are sorry - to have stolen your genius - their attitude was-they're on drugs they won't notice-still quite like weatherall and david holmes though-the theft-UNFORGIVABLE

[odyjamess]

@odyjamess -and don't give me the publishing excuse or I'll come down on you like a clumsy stripper you cunts-you NEVER gave the props