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  • Great video. One suggestion, I use the same Powerbelt round that you are using in my Wolf. I have found that 150grn of powder makes the bullet unpredictable and maybe "wobble". I get far more accurate results when using 100 grn.

  • @Cedrusdeodara Thanks for the suggestion. 9 times out of 10 I use 100 grains too. It's easier on the weapon than magnum loads too. Just wanted to experiment a little.

  • ok i was messing around i know my coment seems like im saying that im better ive never shoot one of those but i could hit it with a m16

  • i could hit that 200 yrds easy with iron sights

  • @SilentbeastLum Thanks for watching. I could use more practice with various loads and bullets to see how it performs. Out to 100 yds is good enough for me and my needs.

  • I fail to see the point of these new muzzle loaders that open up like a shot gun. I use a Pedersoli with real black powder and love it. To do what this gent is doing I might as well use my 7.62 semi automatic. This is not fake but somehow takes the edge of what real muzzle loading is.

    I bet the gent use fake gunpowder as well like 777 or pyrodex.

  • @nicksynnz The point is having fun by trying something new or different. The break action is just to load the primer. It's more efficient igniting the charge than a flint or percussion lock, and would increase the probability of a successful hunt if one is hunting. What is or isn't real muzzle loading is open to debate. If you're loading through the muzzle with a ramrod, it's real muzzle loading. FYI ... I have a PA Pellet flint lock as well. Thanks for watching

  • @hot2warm Nothing wrong with that I guess, in fact it would be fun. I guess I was speaking from my own perspective; I would not buy a rifle like that when modern fire arms are available.  I love the older fashioned style muzzle loaders and the smell of genuine black powder plus a venison steak in the fridge from that hunting. Mind you I love venison shot with my .270 as well. Cheers

    Nik

  • my dad just bought me a new cva wolf but i know nothing about using a muzzle loader or anything and i would like some advice thanx. lol

  • @Thegreathunter1000 Truth be told, when I got mine I knew nothing about muzzleoading either! Mine came with a DVD called Black Powder 101. That was enough to get me started and then I started reading more on it and watching youtube videos. In fact, CVA Muzzleloader Black Powder 101 is in series on Youtube. I think it's been updated since I got mine just a few years ago. I know the Wolf has been upgraded since then. Hope this helps and thanks for watching. Good luck with your Wolf!

  • not suppost to handle the pellets with your fingers.they might not fire right with your oils off of your fingers. thats why they give you the little pipe cleaner with them.

  • @MrJessejames1223 Thanks for watching and thanks for the advice. I'm actually thinking of using more loose powder in the future so that I can achieve loads in between what you can get using pellets. I just bought a flint lock and some REAL black powder.

  • @hot2warm Yay..please pretty please with a cherry on top, show us a movie of you shooting the flintlock. :)

  • i have the same gun, ammo and everything ese i love mine very accurate and great for a first muzzleloader but i only drop in two pellets seems to do the trick but hey everyone is different. great vid brother

  • @TheJessward Thanks for watching. Normally I use 2 pellets too. I just wanted to crank it up to maximum loads a couple times.

  • check that,  a 250 grain slickload

  • i have a CVA wolf, a great little gun, I also have a pre-2000 staghorn with the replacement barrel. I am converting it to 209 caps ... I shoot 90 grain pyrodex powder with a 240 grain slickload, deadly .... 

  • your not suppose to exceed the 150 gr. magnum load max. so your 4 pellets u claim u put in your fire arm can void your warranty. they do test guns to there breaking point thats alot more than 200 grains most muzzleloaders shouldnt be shot more then 200 yards. and two 50 grain pellets is enough to deliver knock down power within this range. to much powder can cause your bullet to fly way off target.every guns different but i've seen guns shoot more accurate with less powder. every guns different.

  • @MrShawnstevens I used 3 pellets, not 4. you may re-watch the video to verify. And I have never claimed to have put 4 pellets in ... ever. I'm not suicidal, nor do I wish to risk damaging my gun. I do agree about accuracy with standard load vs max load with pellets. You might get better accuracy at max load with 100 gr (the max for this gun) using powder. Perhaps I will test that out one day.

  • @MrShawnstevens , The video obviously showed that he only loaded Three pellets not four.

  • So whats all this talk about these guns blowing up in your face? Seems safe from what I've seen

  • @TheMHandDSfan My understanding is that there were a number of incidents when the barrels failed and injured some people, but there are conflicting stories and court testimonies. Some say the barrels were inferior and some say the guns were loaded past max. the overloads may have been because the barrels stated one max charge while the manuals stated another. I don't know which is the case and all my research was after I purchased it. I have had no problems, but I also don't shoot it very often.

  • @TheMHandDSfan , back in 1996, CVA had a bunch of recalls due to quality control, but it could have been improper handling, over loading or the weapon. We would never really know what happened and if the user was at fault or the weapon. Since none of us were there to witness the accidents, we can only go off of previous statements. Nonetheless, CVA was repurchased a few years ago. There are a few outfitters that help promote the guns; therefore, I'd say give them a try.

  • @TheMHandDSfan Freak accidents can happen and they have.

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  • Nice video- Thanks 4 Sharing..

  • Wow, what a yawn fest zzzzz zzzz !!!

  • I'm curious about these new fangled in lines. I use a Thompson Center 50 cal Hawken with 90-100 grains of 3F pirodex,& at 100g,the hammer lifts a lil. But with a saboted 200g jacketed hollow point,it has the same muzzle velocity as a 30-06. Still a bark buster,but a bruiser just the same. Bullet drop is about 2" in 200yds with that load. Not to mention,it has a cherry wood stock,no shiny brass,oiled receiver. Good balance with that heavy barrel too.

  • I'd be ashamed to say I was a black powder hunter if i used an inline

  • you dont need no peedloaders just get a pipe cleaner and stick it thru the whole thats alll u need

  • @1blckjck thanks for the suggestion. I'll definitely keep that in mind

  • @durdy90 .true but i kinda like having the shit kicked outa me lol

  • @williammeridith Whatever floats your boat lol

  • it can only hold 150 mine haz a max of 200 but 150 is enough to kill a deer so still a good rifle plus 200 will blow ur shoulder off lol

  • how come u only used 50 grains dood i use 200

  • @williammeridith I actually loaded 3 x 50 grain pellets, so I was using 150 grains, which is the max magnum load for the rifle

  • @williammeridith There's really no need for a 200 gr load. I use 100 and the deer are just as dead.

  • @williammeridith u shouldnt use 200grains anyway

  • its verry bad to touch the pellet with bare hands teh oils are what make it not fire right

  • @mello27 thanks for the advice. I'll probably try some speed loaders or the Hornady lock N load sabot bullets in the future to keep from handing the pellets so much

  • im not being a dick or anything but u only used 50 grains of powder that gun takes 100 grains and i use the 245 grain powerbelts im good at 100yards iron sights good luck 2 u

  • the muzzle loading 50 cal is a grate gun but it takes to long to reload i rather hunt with a ar-10 (good gun to hunt with done it lots of times verry good gun) or a bolt action rifle

  • @layna112 I am not a hunter, but I think hunting with a muzzleloader requires more skill than hunting with cartridge rifles. I think in some places there are seasons for muzzleloader hunting when you can't use a cartridge rifle

  • @layna112 Some states don't allow you to use cartridge rifles or hi power rifles for hunting they only allow muzzleloaders and shotguns with slugs so we have to work with what the state allows.

  • anyone know a good .50 muzzleloader and scope for a under $300

  • @akshooter762 Gander mountain recently had the Wolf 209 for sale for $139.00 for on-line purchases. Keep checking with them and if you get an inexpensive BSA scope, you can probably come in well under $300.00

  • @akshooter762 Basspro has the red head one for $70 I use it and Love it I believe it is called the red head pursuit

  • @akshooter762

    You can get the new wolf for around 150 200 with CVA's new breach plug that you can twist out with your figers. definatly the way to go. we got one and love it.

  • you skimed your target that wasnt a very good demenstration maybe you nee practice

  • @TheChihuahua2008 That was probably the third ever shot I attempted with the power belt hollowpoint so I honestly wasn't sure what the flight characteristics were going to be. one definitely needs to practice when using different bullets and different loads for the first time. I only had a few hours to make the vids so I did the best I could and made use of the vids I had available.

  • how far will that gun shoot accurately?

  • @4986hunterofsouth i used to have that gun but i only shot at 100 yrds

  • Good vid. I just bought a new version of the wolf with the QRBP. Seems like a good little rifle. I am excited to shoot it. I will be trying thompson shockwaves, hornady XTP's and barnes MZ bullets.

  • I shoot a 295 Grain bullet with 150 Grains of black powder

  • i always shot 140g. was those 30g pellets?

  • how far does this shoot and where did you get it?

  • he's not smoking its a toothpick, only a fool would smoke around black powder and this man has a love and respect for shooting! keep posting vids hot2warm happy hunting!

  • dont touch the powder with ur hands!

  • 3 pellets haha that does some dmg and i love this gun need a scope to it haha

  • Excellent demo. I was wondering which end to use of the stuffer thing. Fun stuff.

  • @ForneyRider yeah, that's the ramrod and the brass tip is cupped to better match the form of the bullet

  • real smart, black powder while smoking

  • @freiermuthj You're. right. matter of fact, smoking's not smart to start with. That's why I don't smoke. That's a toothpick, my friend.

  • @hot2warm i realized that after i commented srry

  • Pictures worth a thousand words. I have been looking at this gun, I was glad to see your video, you got me sold. Even just grazing that jug you beat the crap out of it. That would have killed........see the size of that graze, lol. Thank you very much!!!!

  • where did u take u hunting test

  • nifty shot though

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  • cva makes good rifles I have three...my favorite is an old Magnum Hunter in .45 cal. 90grains of loose pyrodex and a195gr. powerbelt shoots great and is tuff on deer out to about150yds

  • I got the gun identical to the wolf, its an Optima .50 CVA muzzleloader..I shoot 2 pellets ( 100 grains ) and it works great for accuracy and power on deer.

  • What about powerders. They work ok in a in line? Its what I got for my B day.

    100 gs for me.

  • I personally prefer the pellets. Quicker reloads, less equipment to worry about. Powder propellant will work fine in in-lines. Just make sure you measure out the correct amount.

  • you could have done with just two pellets, more can throw off the accuracy of the shot.

  • Just wanted to wring her out and she how she felt at maximum load.

  • @bradplumb64 we used 3 White Hots with excellent accuracy.

  • just bought mine,ram rod seems a little short,not planing on shooting 150 grains of powder maybe about 90 grains less fouling.

  • The brass portion of the ramrod screws out to give you about 3 -4 more inches to work with

  • i like my wolf the best bullets i found out and power is tripple se7en magnum and the best bullet i used in my is power belts 348 grain bullet

    the magnum powder u only can use to or it will blow the gun apart their bigger pellets

  • I am going to try the Hornady FPB bullets when I get the chance. And use some powder propellant too.

  • great video!

  • my gun does 50 grains miniumum and 100 max thats 2 pellets max is ur gun rated to do 150?

  • The Wolf 209 Magnum will do 3 50-grain pellets, but 100 grains of powder maximum. Apparently, the powder itself will result in higher pressures when ignited compared to the pellets.

  • its cheaper just to do 1 or 2 anyways :P suprisingly 1 pellet is pretty powerful

  • you need license ?

  • Only to hunt. I bought the muzzleloader from Dick's sporting goods without filling out any kind of paperwork at all.

  • You didn't fill out any paperwork cause its a muzzleloader. They fall under old laws. This is why you can buy them mail order without an FFL involved.

  • nice video.

  • i have the same gun but i got a scope and u a posse to put the primer in last

  • ur a fuckin dumn ass i hope u hert ur self and learn a lesson one day

  • I hope you make it past the 3rd grade and learn how to spell

  • pretty sure the primer was the last thing he put in

  • their fun but all the shit to buy is expensive

  • I WANT IT!!!!!!!!!!

  • Thanks. I bought the rifle as a total impulse purchase. I saw it and just had to have it, and knew absolutely nothing about muzzle loaders. It came with a very good instructional DVD. In my humble opinion, muzzle loaders are a 10 on the fun factor scale.

  • how powerful are those compared to normal rifles. I know they have alot more powder and huge bullets.

  • They are probably more powerful than a shotgun firing slugs, but don't have the range of a rifle. You will probably get better penetration with a muzzleloader's projectile than with a shotgun slug. I am sure more seasoned hunters will correct me if I am wrong.

  • Do you know what a CVA 50 caliber muzzleloader bolt action takes, (primers) I bought a cheap one at a pawn shop for like 60 dollars and the nimple is huge and it looks like it takes a cap, I know for sure it isn't 209 already made that stupid mistake and also how do you tell if it can take 150 grains of powder. Thanks you

  • If you aren't sure about something concerning firearms, your best bet is to always, ALWAY ask the manufacturer about it. Otherwise, you will only get hear-say and opinion about something. You should be able to find the make and model and serial number of the rifle on the barrel. When you find that, go to CVA (dot) com and look up customer service, under the company heading. Call them, or email them with the model number and your question. They will be able to provide you with the correct info.

  • ok, last annoying question then I will probably leave you alone, I found out it takes musket caps, wierd for a CVA, but I was thinking of converting it to 209 so I can use pellets, the question is, are musket caps hot enough to light pydrox pellets. I rather not convert it. Its not cheap.

  • Ya better check with the manufacturer for that info. I have read on-line where people have done the conversion and have done so using musket caps, but you need to be aware that everything on the net ain't true. Always check with the manufacturer of both the firearm and the ones who manufacture the conversion components. But if it's gonna be that expensive, you might just consider buying a new one that uses the things that you want to use. It might be cheaper and safer in the long run.

  • That's a sweet rifle Walter.

    Heck, if that was a deer it would still drop. That close is usually good enough.

    A little practice and you will be able to shoot with 2" groups.

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