WANT SOUND MONEY? Abolish the Federal Reserve

[canuck7777777]

I've been thinking about what we can use to replace the current system. Let's face it, gold and silver was tried in the past and didn't work. Fiat doesn't work, so what will?

I think a solution would be to first give Congress the power of the purse. Then make the dollar a stock certificate backed by the output of the country's GDP. If GDP increases, the money supply increases and if the GDP decreases, the money supply contracts accordingly.

[Bonigee]

For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, & pierced themselves through with many sorrows. 1Timothy 6:10

They shall cast their silver in the streets, & their gold shall be removed: their silver & their gold shall not be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the LORD: they shall not satisfy their souls, neither fill their bowels: because it is the stumblingblock of their iniquity. Ezekiel 7:19

Fraud of the FED !!

[USZombeeKing]

The elite bankers need to be taken down...they are already waging war on the American people and the world with futuristic weapons that cause severe weather and catastrophic earthquakes. The American corporations and media are all controlled by evil and corrupt jews who are well networked and have complete control over the system.

Americans need to wake up fast!

[VictorS2003]

All good except for your reference to the Bible. Who cares what that fictional book says?!

[Digephil]

subtly, I think you have a real understanding of why the economy is in the can right now. Theistically, I'm not sure if we're on the same page, but you do raise a good point on why America made some very, VERY bad decisions.

[swizzlecheeks]

Don't forget the most hideous tax there is. Inflation, will eat up all of your savings. -Refer to Zimbabwe.

Destroy the middle class. They will be the rich owning everything and we will be the poor. It was done before in the middle ages. Its called feudalism.

[MikeGustaw]

unfortunately the only way to end this system is...well....to kill the system.

[HE360]

I'm agree with everything that was said on this video bro!

[bgerst23]

if each person owes 37,000 I say pony up right now those that can obviously should be citizens and those that cant should be killed period. you wanna have me pay for you well you gotta go and we need someone in here that will do his share I will even pay 40,000 right now american bums lets go pay your money and we are all fine no the bottom 75 percent see not 90 percent 75 should be our slaves period they are ruining america and we all know it there I said it thats how I feel

[KevZen2000]

$37,878.59 is the debt each person owns as of today.

[Bonigee]

@KevZen2000 ...... Fraud of the FED continues:

As of August 28, 2011 the US National Debt clock is $14,662,435,308,876.28

The estimated population of the United States is 311,199,660

so each citizen's share of this debt is $47,115.85 as of today.

3.96 billion per day since September 28, 2007!

[wauwiii]

what you are talking about is an utopia...

and socialistic.....

and you have a pain in the ass over 12% tax?

foolish child man... here in Denmark we have 54% tax...

and we are doing just fine...

you are foolish if there where no tax there would be no america (; rest assure

why do you amicans not open your fucking dumb minds to others countries in the world...

you have no idea what's out there ;) it's pathetic

[jholt929]

maybe it's just a historic difference. you guys as serfs were happy to get anything more the nobility was willing to give you. here in america, we actually succeeded in making some changes and shaking the foundations of those bluebloods for a little while. we owned land, tons of it. worked on it, and made profit from our toil. you can't appreciate that.

[connor2444]

Dude a resource based economy is nothing like a Marxism.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Ever read the Communist Manifesto? Obviously not.

Utopia is only impossible because of people like you keeping it from happening.

[ScavengerData]

socialistic? wow you're intellectual credibility is laughable. not even close to socialistic, a firm belief in sound money- the elimination of the FED, and the end of price fixing and artificial interest rates is the frame work that not just capitalism, but democracy become inseparable in. We need to let the relationship between the market and consumer to be clear- that competition and opportunity are one and the same. for instance- if I want to get the best product for the least amount of money

[ScavengerData]

then I am well able to, the nature of the market will make prices for goods and services go down- productivity and efficiency go up. Hate to burst your bubble, but just because you're not from American does not exclude you from ignorance. To be honest, American capitalism has done far more good than it has evil. You think of things only in "idea", not in reality. In reality, even the poorest of the poor here live exceptionally well- and within modest means. real poverty in america? not really

[ScavengerData]

just because you're not American*

[ScavengerData]

also take the price of a television for instance, they are DIRT cheap. Plasma tv for instance- years ago they were in the thousands of dollars- now they are mere hundreds. The market works hand in hand with technology and innovation- it responds to breakthroughs and the prices soon drop as the amount of TV's made by different companies rises. this is the clear incentive for companies to compete for my hard earned dollars.

[VyckRo]

It is how you say, Nice!

5 stars!

[OnceAnAtheist]

5 stars!

[therealmetroidmaniac]

they love money 'cus god made 'em that way

[exodous02]

Back to the subject of corrupt banking systems:

Most people won't fight back because this is what being a slave is, when I'm fed and clothed then I'm content. When my food goes away and I'm naked then it's time to rebel.

Tough times come about because people are content and don't want anything better. Wars fester because one nations people are content while another nations people are hungry and naked.

[TheBradRules]

This all could've done, if Ron Paul were president. The Federal Reserve is like a personal piggy bank for government officials.

[Bonigee]

@TheBradRules "Ron Paul for President 2012!!!" YES!

[Jsickert]

I'm for a flat tax approach. Eliminate all forms of taxes except income tax. 10% goes to the Federal government, 8% to the state, and 2% to local. This would be for all companies and all individuals making above poverty level with no write offs. 20% may seem high, but when you add all the sales tax, property tax, gas tax, etc along with normal income tax the amount is actually 5-8% less.

[jeffman204]

How about no tax at all? Turn the government into a voluntary system where you pay for the services you want. Don't like the war in Iraq? Fine, don't buy into a military defense contract.

Voluntary government services FTW!

[Jsickert]

No tax at all? What do we do about national defense, what about the transportation services, and other public utilities and recreation areas? These are all paid for with taxes. Don't like the war fine, but what do we do when we are attacked? With no money to pay for the personnel and equipment Cuba could roll in and take us over. Who would you call if your home was robbed? With no taxes their are no police, you could pay for private police, but that would cost a lot more.

[jeffman204]

If you don't pay for it, you don't get it. Remember, the fire department, mail department, and roads all used to be privatized, and there seems to be an impetus going back to that state. Transportation services? What, do you think that the land outside of washington d.c. is a wasteland that only the gov't can rescue us from? There will definitely be people who will sign onto military, police, and firefighting services, just like they sign onto any other insurance contract.

[Jsickert]

And cost you ten times more to receive these services.

[jeffman204]

And why would private police cost more? With the government monopoly out of place, we could have competition, which would lower prices. Any industry that the government goes into right now, it has monopolistic power.

[Jsickert]

Private police would cost more because of the higher insurance a private company would have to pay for each officer along with health benefits. You would be paying an amount based on the amount of man hours taken to solve the case, the kind of crime, all equipment used in lab tests and the dusting powder, and of course the inconvenience of having to shop around at a time when you are overly emotional. Its cheaper to pay as a collective in this case.

[manicmetropolis]

i say reinstate the gold standard. its the best way to fix things. and if you want to tax thing tax the financial industry

[halfpint117]

So do you support the reestablishment of the gold standard?

[GEERUP]

please stay on topic the Federal Reserve and corruption in government. It will be far more beneficial for all of us. given the fact that whether you're atheist or Christian if you're not a member of the illuminati you will be eating pork and beans and very short time. I truly believe that we could set our differences aside for this very important battle for our freedoms liberties and the pursuit of unobstructed joy and happiness. prevent faith phobias to hinder a united front in this battle.

[BODYSHEENdottcom]

You have it wrong. The original Greek text says that the love of money is the root of ALL KINDS of evil; not the root of ALL evil.

[Jsickert]

But greed is the root of all evil. Name one of the seven deadly sins that doesn't have its root in greed.

[slesh70]

Come on people, I am 38 and I have known this for 18 years. My grandfathers used to tell me of it, I went and studied it. Hell, the laws passed in 1913 including income tax is all a shame. Woodrow Wilson even stated after signing it into law that he had just sold his country down the river. WAKE UP AMERICA!!! WAKE UP WORLD!!!!!!

[GEERUP]

jeffman204. you have exposed yourself as willingly ignorant of Biblical history. You claim to have been a Bible believing thoroughly studied Christian your entire life total of 23 years starting from the slap upon your backside. I'm done with your dishonesty and your bigoted faithphobia. I am a Christian who loves the truth as difficult as that is for you to swallow. I will not throw the baby out with the bathwater just because modern secular humanism demands the Bible to be irrelevant.

[jeffman204]

Really? Ignorant? Let's see which one is ignorant.

Geerup: In those times, slavery, rape and genocide were ok!

No. Not at all. In no society, culturally backwards or not, is slavery ok. Genocide is pure evil. Rape is wrong. I don't care about your "love of 'truth' " or your interpretations. The bible depicts these things and defends them. If you want to keep the bible, fine, I don't care. But don't you dare tell me that I am any lesser for not supporting its crimes.

[GEERUP]

The Bible may depict rape but it doesn't condone it. Like the nightly news reports the facts. historically the Bible truthfully dealt with such distasteful realities. Slavery was not condoned recall Moses" let my people go" genocide frowned upon as a heinous evil and recompense due to wartime conditions. Again you assume you know your Bible inside and out but you miss interpret the historicity of the Bible twisting it to suit your presupposition. And I have not declared you a lesser man.

[jeffman204]

Surprising that other authors "speaking for god" later went on to say where the israelites may get slaves from, how long they may keep them, and what to do with their family. that sounds pretty condoned to me.

[Jsickert]

You keep making the mistake of quoting Old Testament. Christians believe and follow the New Testament. Most of the Old Testament was abrogated by the New Testament. Jesus basically said follow the ten commandments and a new law of do unto others. Show me where Jesus condones and supports these things you say Christians condone and support.

[jeffman204]

Oh really. Well, seeing as the creation story, several of the supposed predictions for a messiah, and the portion condemning homosexuality (and wearing polyester) are all in the old testament, it would be difficult to be in the christian religion.

It is not the fact that Jesus supports slavery: he doesn't condemn it. He condemned other parts of the bible (which is odd; figured god would have gotten it right the first time). Oh, and the bit of "slaves, obey your masters" is there too.

[Jsickert]

Slavery was condoned by the Old Testament and also set rules on how slaves could be treated and who could be taken as a slave. And in the time of the Old Testament up until about 200 years ago slavery was considered not only a legal trade, but an acceptable one. Jesus did condemn slavery with his do unto others rule, who wants to be a slave or treated like one? If you don't like this answer tell me which verse you are referring to.

[jeffman204]

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. Ephesians 6:5

Jesus sure likes to contradict himself, just like the four gospels contradict each other. Funny pattern, eh?

[Jsickert]

Which continues on to Ephesians 6:7-9 "Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but like slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not men, because you know that the Lord will reward everyone for whatever good he does, whether he is slave or free. And masters, treat your slaves the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is...

[Jsickert]

no favoritism with him.

Yes very contradictory of the do unto others rule.

[jeffman204]

My question is why god didn't get it right the first time in the old testament.

[Jsickert]

What didn't God get right?

[jeffman204]

The issue of slavery.

[Jsickert]

Well I'm not a 100% on the Torah translations, but when it comes to the New Testament there is a difference in wording among the Protestant and Catholic versions. In most Protestant versions (King James, New Millennium, etc.) most of the instances where the word servant originally appeared, was changed to slave, this was done so they could continue the slave trade after the Vatican condemned the practice. Man has freewill to choose, some people prefer evil, God will judge in the end.

[jeffman204]

It doesn't matter what you call it; servant-hood, slavery, it doesn't matter. It's still the possession of one man/woman to another. That is immoral. Hopefully you realize that you are more moral than to support slavery.

And besides, they had no need to change the label, seeing as the old testament fully supported the purchasing of slaves from other nations.

Additionally, Jesus _did_ still support slavery, and the fact that he tells masters not to threaten still allows them to beat slaves.

[Jsickert]

By your definition anyone who works for pay is a servant. Even slaves are paid to an extent with food, clothes, and a roof over their head, isn't that the reason we all work for pay?

Still allows them to beat slaves? I don't know where you are from, but where I come from the prospect of a beating is considered quite threatening. In the Old Testament slavery was condoned everywhere, man made the trade, God put rules on it for his followers. Don't get caught in the trap of presentism.

[jeffman204]

I don't see how you got "anyone who works for pay" out of "the property of another person." Does your boss own you as his property, like he would a car? Hopefully not.

Threaten: to give an ominous indication of. Notice that nowhere in the definition is there mention of an action. A man can beat a slave without threatening him; he can just do it.

Ah, the old, "but that's how the times were!" argument. Human sacrifice was fairly widespread back then as well. Does that mean it was "okay?"

[Jsickert]

"It doesn't matter what you call it; servant-hood, slavery, it doesn't matter." Working for pay is servant-hood. The boss always tells people to do things they don't want to, if they don't they are threatened with being fired, and since you need the pay to survive you do it. Threaten can also apply to the person being threatened. When a fist is flying at your head do you not feel threatened?

[jeffman204]

Don't get carried away with presentism? What, should I not think of something as immoral, simply because it was widespread and in the past? Should you think sex before marriage is ok because it is widespread and has occurred ever since marriage existed? Because according to your religion, you shouldn't. Despite the fact that it's dogma.

[Jsickert]

You can feel something is immoral. That is fine. But when you look at things in the past you must put yourself into the context of the time period. Try to put yourself in the shoes of someone in those days, where even poor shepherds had at least a few unpaid servants just to survive. Its dogma if I'm Catholic, but I'm not. Again sodomy was a sin in the Old Testament, paid for by Christ's blood. Adultery only exist out of wed lock and it is the church forcing that sin.

[jeffman204]

I do not "feel" it is immoral. I know it is. Why? Because I use a moral code based on experience and reality to make judgements using anything but emotion. The ownership of another person is immoral because it lowers that person's value, and is a mentally and physically abusive relationship. Historical evidence proves this point.

[Jsickert]

Oops sorry, I've also been involved with another religious debate, please discard everything after "...just to survive."

[Jsickert]

Sex outside marriage is a form of Adultery which is part of the Ten Commandments which Jesus said we keep. It is a wide spread sin, but the sacrifice Christ made allows the sins to be forgiven if one is truly repentant. Morality changes with the times, this is why Christ gave us the new law of do unto others as you would have done unto you, it has become the catch phrase of many people's conscience. This idea lead to the abolition of slavery in the end.

[jeffman204]

Except for the commandment for keeping the sabbath day holy. That part he took out.

Adultery: voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and someone other than his or her lawful spouse.

Sex before marriage does not fall under adultery because the people involved are not married to other people. And both are rampant.

Morality changes with the times? So when do I stop using the golden rule, which was not originally jesus' idea? I'm surprised to hear moral relativism from you.

[Jsickert]

Matthew 5:28 "But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart"

[jeffman204]

Not all sex is based on lust. Some people love each other without being married. Surprising, isn't it?

[jeffman204]

Do you realize the irony of your statements? You're saying that no moral law can stand absolute for all times so we should be okay with despicable things in the past (slavery, rape, human sacrifice: all endorsed in the bible), but then tell us that jesus made an absolute law that should be followed forever.

Ignoring the contradiction, why should anyone be moral if morals change over time? It seems to be pointless.

Jesus' teachings did not lead to the end of slavery. Reason did.

[Jsickert]

The point is that this one law has lead to the vast improvement of morality through out the civilized world. There is no irony in my statements an absolute truth like treat others as you would have yourself treated. The concept was heavily ingrained in the consciousness of the vastly Christian populous that lead to the change of mind of slavery. Continue to try disproving God if you wish, we will all find out in the end.

[jeffman204]

The irony is in the fact that you tout a moral absolute while you support the idea that morals change with the times and depend on the culture, a.k.a. moral relativism. Which is the polar opposite of absolute truth.

[Darverses]

Let's say you lost your job, your wife left you and took your kids, and the bank repossessed your home. What would you do? If you could, you might become a butler, or a gardener. Did you know that those people are slaves?

[Darverses]

You should clearly define what you think is a slave compared to what the Bible says. If you can't take care of yourself, find someone who can in exchange for services. That's basically what the Bible says a slave is. There was no racial, or unwilling slavery advocated in the Bible.

[jeffman204]

Slave: a person who is the property of and wholly subject to another. A butler is not the property of another person. He simply works for him like anyone works for an employer. Do you have a job? Because if you do, I'm fairly certain you aren't your boss' property.

However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may treat them as your property. Leviticus 25:44-45

Notice the part about property? Kinda fits with the definition of a slave.

[jeffman204]

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. Exodus 21:20-21

Yeah, beating your slaves is ok, just don't kill em right away!

[Darverses]

Wll I think Jsickert cleared that up for me...

[jeffman204]

Not in the slightest.

[Darverses]

SIgh. T_T read his damn post.

[jeffman204]

Really. Wow. You're really taking that much offense to a 2 line comment? Did I say you Should cut out the portions involving the bible? No. I said, without any seriousness at all that I would subscribe if there weren't any religious references.

Right. So the 23 years I spent as a christian studying the bible don't count. Here you are making assumptions again. And this time, it doesn't make an ass out of me. It's all you this time buddy.

[jeffman204]

Man, if you could cut out the portions involving the bible, I'd subscribe to this channel!

[GEERUP]

Jeff Man you probably don't realize how your statement makes you sound shallow and lacking in wisdom and character. I do understand you don't want the negative connotation that is associated with someone whom believes in God but the Bible poses no threat to those who do good. the Word of God is a razor sharp sword piercing sinew and bone both to the good and the unjust. God provide such grace and mercy's I find it extremely revealing to the depravity of the individual who rejects such gifts.

[jeffman204]

Ah, no, that statement wasn't shallow or lacking of intelligence at all.

I tried to complement you in suggesting that I agree with some of your economic points, and that I disagree with your religious ones.

Why would this be worth attacking? I did not discredit the bible in any way. I was considering calling it crap, but chose not to for respect.

And you're making too many assumptions. For all you know, I could be a christian who just wants to hear about economics.

Burning bridges my friend.

[jeffman204]

Well, now you know I don't believe in the bible, but before now that assumption is invalid.

[GEERUP]

it is safe to assume that when an individual suggests cutting the Bible out of posts, that person has an aversion to the Word of God otherwise why say such a thing. So my assumption is based on a valid understanding of a prevailing mindset today, that all religion especially Christianity is worthless if not evil. Most people who believe this has spent more time reading and studying debunkers and detractors slandering the word of God rather than pursuing the wisdom found in its overall message

[GEERUP]

intelligence was not in question. I chose my words carefully and said that it sounded shallow and lacking wisdom To state in comment form that you would subscribe to my channel if I'd cut out portions involving the Bible. I've failed to see your compliment. Why say anything at all? If you think the Bible is a load of BS just move on. But no you had to suggest cutting out the Bible. Did you know the Bible condemns usury? the practice of lending money with interest. burning bridges certainly not

[jeffman204]

Yes, I know the bible condemns usury. And basically every part of capitalism. You can't blame its writers; what religious leader would want his people to expand and become successful? They might start thinking for themselves! Gasp! But don't worry, they'd feel bad, go back to being poor because apparently being rich/successful is bad (BS about camel and needle eye). You want sound money? Drop the bible. Let people invest. And yes, that's usury. The basis of any free, sound financial market .

[GEERUP]

okay this is where Jeff you're going to have to scripturally prove your point. with the 23 years of sound scriptural study and proper exegesis site for me how the Bible condemns capitalism. Also being rich successful is a bad thing. Scripturally make your point using proper theological study. at this point you confirm your ignorance of Scripture and its wisdom concerning monetary topics.

[jeffman204]

Thanks Geerup, you've basically done all the work for me, even in that one quote!

You can say in one breath "the bible doesn't condemn capitalism!" and in another "being rich and successful is evil!"

I love irony, I really do. You see, you're condemning both the products of capitalism, wealth, prosperity, and progress, and one of its main pillars, usury. Without lending, large investments wouldn't be made, stopping the construction of factories, the starting of new inventions and ideas, (TBC)

[jeffman204]

and the expansion of current systems. You've gotten the biblical material condemning usury for me already so I don't need to bring out any more. As an aside, how could you possibly believe that lending money makes the receiver a slave? It is a simple contract and the lender has no control over you at all except for his expectation for a return.

BTW, I like how the bible says that borrowers are slaves, then goes on to promote slavery (Leviticus 25:44-46) and slave abuse (Exodus 21:20-21).

[GEERUP]

by the way I am more than happy to go through every scripture painstakingly would you and educate you to the time. And the cultural ramifications of that place within human history. For what will be refreshing in my course of study and also for those who honestly want to know about biblical history and its people. But in my experience with skeptics they don't want proper exegesis. True theological study is not their goal. Rather a perpetuation of endless questions never ceasing and rejecting.

[jeffman204]

Oh, here are a couple more verses for you to enjoy: Support for slavery: Ephesians 6:5-9 Colossians 3:22-25 1 Timothy 6:1-5 Don't be uppity slaves: Titus 2:9-10, 15 Support for Murder/Rape: Judges 21:10-24 (remember, what happens in Jabesh-gilead, stays in Jabesh-gilead!) Numbers 31:7-18 Genocide is fun! Kinda miss the Midianites though. Deuteronomy 20:10-14 Always do need instructions for wiping out entire cities.

[jeffman204]

And for the grand finale:

Deuteronomy 22:28-29

If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

Wow, the bible is just filled with gems of good advice. Yeah, force the rape victim to marry the rapist, that'll turn out well!

[GEERUP]

Jeff you're getting this from the skeptics annotated Bible. org any are forgetting the historicity that I am in a place that it was written. You look at these scriptures with contemporary modern lenses obstructing your understanding.These verses are to be contrasted with 22:25, in which a woman is raped. Because the sexual activity takes place in a populated location, it is clear that the woman consented: she was not raped. In cases of rape, the woman is held innocent .

[jeffman204]

Sorry, I guess I mixed up the words rape and rape. Because, you know, the second one obviously means consented relations.

[GEERUP]

one final thought concerning burning bridges. In order to burn a bridge there must be one ( a relationship based on mutual friendship and understanding) to be burned. I have over 100 videos and you have the advantage over me in this regard you probably know more about me than I you. So to introduce yourself by way of a hand outstretched but then withdrawn suddenly because I may have the dreaded " mind virus" as prominent secular atheists assert is to slap away friendship rather than extend one

[jeffman204]

Give me a break. I try to be nice and joke about something I know you never would do, and you think that slandering me is a good idea?

And with me "withdrawing suddenly," what do you expect me to do when you call my ideas "shallow and lacking wisdom?" I never called you out on your religion; I simply said I disagree. You really need to work on your people skills.

[GEERUP]

Income tax was declared unconstitutional in the 1860's and 1890's, and put in as a "voluntary" tax in 1913 at 3% on the wealthy only. "Voluntary" means that you are not obligated! Amendment 16 ALLOWS for an income tax, it does not require one!

An unequal income tax cannot be made uniform, as it does not apply equally to all! Article 1, Section 8, Clause 5, of the US Constitution, gives "Power to Congress" the FED to (create) money and regulate the it value.

[GEERUP]

Under this article, Congress can order the Treasury to create all of the debt free funds necessary to meet the government's needs! The Lincoln administration did this during the tragic Civil War, to meet the needs of the northern war efforts, and after the war, there was NO DEBT, AND NO INTEREST TO PAY ON DEBT!

[TwilightWizzard]

Also, Christianity is a sham. =P

[chalcedonite]

Then who has the authority?

[TwilightWizzard]

It's survival of the fittest, like it has been for billions of years.

[TwilightWizzard]

As for taxes, what does it matter if the tax comes from the income or from purchases? Either way, a percentage of your income goes to the government. If income tax was abolished but everyone payed 50-100% salex tax, it wouldn't be much different.

[eric710221]

Well at least illegals would be paying taxes and their would be an incentive to save money.

[KOSnet7]

"Illegals" Huh?

Don't forget European, Polish, German, etc immigrants overstayed their visas.

no one is native here really but Native Americans.

[TwilightWizzard]

Heh, debt. We don't get debt out of nowhere. We get it for houses, cars, college, etc. The problem is with people who buy more than they need. There's nothing wrong with taking out a loan for college or a house, but buying Rolls Royces and $10k TVs is wrong if you don't earn much.

[geriatricguru]

That gold coin you put up does NOT contain the words "In God We Trust" and the gov has promoted it because the followers of Christ would not have any thing to do with it. Their excuse was that the head of the prez. was too big and so it was left off......I wouldn't touch that coin, on principle alone.

[knightswrath000]

Keep in mind they would be powerless if not for the greed of the Average American. They use our love of "things", carrot on a string. DO people need a newer car every few years, a bigger house, another useless trinket? No. Americans willfully enslaved themselves. We still do, simply based on our OWN vain pleasures. WE need a lifestyle reality check, thats the ONLY way it will stop, we create our own madness.

[krisv001]

I agree :), but as you said we live in the endtimes and I think until Jesus Christ is coming back this won't be resolved. Of course we should keep trying even if just on local level to change things and to convert people and such, but all we can do is pray for a quick return of Jesus Christ to take care of this mess.

[Nervian]

And I think that way of thinking is the worst. It's not a situation for Jesus to cure. It's your duty and mine to pick up the staff and demonstrate that we understand that we are the stewards of this planet. We are created in the image of YHWH. We ALL are one in this respect. We must understand who and what we truly are. Hear the word and do the will.

[RaptureMe2]

It would be awesome to revolt against the IRS till it's dissolved. Think the rest of America would fo for it?

The answer is no. People are quite comfortable being crapped on by the government, pardon the pun.

The citizens of the United States are being raped and they don't even care. It takes more than a handful of people to make things happen.

[themarkmarcus]

after a congressional bank would be in force as created by the U.S. gov't, all loans could be loaned out interest free. the congressional bank then would print money up to pay off the labor involved in the banking process including the price of the buildings, vaults, and anything created including monies to be paid to the employees of this system. with an interest free system, there would never be another economic depression. (2)

[themarkmarcus]

congress could get us out of this if they would print up money as authorized by the constituton of the U.S. all they would have to do is declare all monies created by the federal reserve illegal after a certain date. then they would print federal U.S. dollars up instead of notes and pay off all the bonds to the private bankers with new notes to cover principal and interest created by the U.S. gov't. the bankers wouldn't feel a loss, and the national debt would be paid. (1)

[Yohum7]

"and I do mean bastards!"

[divinacomedias]

First National Bank of Montgomery vs Jerome Daly

Plaintiff admitted that it did create the entire $14,000.00 in money or credit upon its own books by bookkeeping entry. That this was the Consideration used to support the Note dated May 8, 1964 and the Mortgage of the same date. The money and credit first came into existence when they created it. The Jury found that there was no consideration and I agree. Only God can create something of value out of nothing.

[compugeek722]

I missed you geerup!!!

[78sEVEn78]

put it all into perspective, and dust yourself off of the negative that seeks to devour us believers. I kindof miss your light hearted, comical vids, GeerUp!

So SMILE! YHWH Bless you, In Christ the KING, ~7~

[78sEVEn78]

I understand GeerUp, I do. This mess will get a whole helluvalot worse b4 it gets better. In all actuality, we KNOW that it will not actually be getting better. Let us PRAISE YHWH that we have a blessed Hope; we are saved, sign and sealed...and one day real soon: DELIVERED up out of this demonic world system.

I dont like seeing you like this, it makes me sad. Dont misunderstand, I am not saying that its wrong that we believers fall weak to all of the crap around us. I just hope that u can

[axisapex]

Agreed

[Halo2100]

I agree with you Geerup. Thanks for making this video, you probably opened some eyes with this.

[MermaidViolet]

actually the bible does say that money is evil.

Luke 16:9 And I say unto you, Make to yourselves friends of the mammon of unrighteousness; that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations.

Money is unrighteous and anything unrighteous is evil. We have been taught to think that all these teachers have brainwashed us to think it is not evil, but it is. God also says you cannot serve God and Money, God did not even put the devil in that scripture he put MONEY!

[bander87]

I don't understand that scripture, but there are a lot more references in the bible refering to gold and silver in a positive manner.

[Bonigee]

If money is evil what do you use for money to buy your food and pay your rent and what ever?? Anyway you got to be kidding !!

[Halo2100]

He didn't say money in it self is evil, but the love of it was. Pay attention next time.

[Bonigee]

Halo2100...I totally agree with GEERUP as well. My remark was directed to MermaidViolet. Our money reads "In God We Trust" which is a good reminder of WHO our trust should be in. The bible reads that The LOVE of money is the ROOT of all evil...It's about God being our provider, Our help comes from him. Its about the condition of our heart. Gold, silver or Paper money is no more evil than a chair or a pencil. They are just objects of exchange with no heart. but people with Hearts can be evil.

[spark300c]

I agree Federal Reserve do not control the value of money like they should.

[capaonfire]

"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the

[capaonfire]

vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men." -Woodrow Wilson, after signing the Federal Reserve into existence

[Bonigee]

This is the saddest statement ever...Some how I'm hoping we the people who love the constitution will over through this evil Federal Reserve....We are in a mess.

[78sEVEn78]

wow, Ive actually never seen that quote before; that is insane with sad truth

 =*(

[qswfeh2121]

"Keep your eye on the prize, everything else is just a sham".

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[qswfeh2121]

DA Carol, you forgot the most important part here.

He said, "Keep your eye on the prize, Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life, everything else is just a sham".

That's what He said! And that's the truth.

[danouttatown]

good vid.

[Just1Atheist]

GEERUP I couldnt agree with you more. Most people know the movie zeitgeist for hitting on religion. But, that was only 1 of 3 parts of the video. The last part part3 of the video corresponds with you view on the Federal Reserves and the banking system.

[4096x]

i love your videos.

[beloitrose]

safe travels and endeavors

[DailyBibleVerse]

People don't realize that slavery was never really abolished it only evolved into what we have now. We are ALL in bondage to the economic system and when the Anti Christ rises up he will switch that bondage to himself and place everyone under his control.

[JimiHenbricks]

WE should come up with a plan together. Some way join our money together and get out of the disgusting trap and system.Its funny how a poor man has to pay $1500 per month for $150,000 loan and the rich get to pay $350 bucks a month. How the heck is that fair. I know..sure sure..There more of a risk. But not really a poor person NEEDS his home. A rich man can careless if they keep one of their many homes.

[JimiHenbricks]

You're right man. The Government takes millions of people lives away and yes most of us are SLAVES. We are all SLAVES here. It sucks. Most are so tired and brain washed or scared to admit the madness. I think anyone making under $150,000 a year should not be taxed. Because $150,000 is like $25,000 30 years ago.

[beverly92552]

good video

how do we do it

[gorgonzolaaa]

Spending is controlled by Congress, not by the Fed. Without the Fed, Congress would still spend. Place blame where blame is due.

You complain about income tax, then propose replacing it with another tax, then complain that taxation is excessive. I would love to see income tax eliminated too, but for the proper reason. Excessive taxation is excessive taxation, whether it be income tax or sales tax. The spending, and the excessiveness, are the problems.

Change focus from tool to wielder.

[MeIoco]

5 stars Gearup. I agree completely

[stefanya]

No, Sir, we do not just sit back. We have a moral responsiblilty as Christians to fight the good fight. I like how you come to the crux of the problem starting with the Federal Reserve. Here's the question tho. How do we stop it? Deny paying the taxation? Be willing to be put in jail? That's exactly what it comes down to. They have had this hold on u7s for over 60 yrs. That's way too long and unfortunately, hopefully, not a little too late. God bless you, brother.

[Bonigee]

@stefanya My comment comes to you 2 years later. Ha Ha! You are right, we do not sit back. We Vote for Ron Paul for President 2012!!

[armandocalderonmx]

geerup dont forget that this is the babilonic system that nimrod put.

We have to wait to the messian come back and restore the kingdom of God by force !

[shiningcross]

Great video, GEERUP. I'll try to be hopeful, but I don't think awareness is enough. I'm just glad to know we win in the end. The only people I can get to listen to this are younger people. Most of the adults I talk to just won't accept it.

[NewTheories]

END THE FED ON 11/22/2008 PROTEST ACROSS AMERICA AT ALL THE FED and FED SUB BUILDINGS. JOIN IF YOU CAN ONE AND ALL.

[Blegemoth]

5 Stars

[PeacefulApe]

Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution states that Congress shall have the power to create money and regulate the value thereof, NOT A BUNCH OF INTERNATIONAL BANKERS! Today the FED controls and profits by printing WORTHLESS PAPER, called money, through the Treasury, regulating its value, AND THE BIGGEST OUTRAGE OF ALL, COLLECTING INTEREST ON IT! (THE SO-CALLED NATIONAL DEBT).

[reaper1521]

cool....SPENCERTACTICAL COM

[aikido776]

Agree with everything you said.

[awormyourhonor]

um... while we no longer have the gold to back up our fiat currency, to destroy the federal reserve would be absolute economic suicide.

Maybe we should be investing in something with undiminished value, but we simply cannot CANNOT get rid of the federal reserve.

We need a flexible currency, because we live in a flexible economy.

[GEERUP]

Yes we should invest in undiminished values But It's the Fed that is Killing the dollar. the Federal Reserve System is a "bunch of organized crooks and its' practices are in violation of the U.S. Constitution. the Fed is a banking cartel that benefits mainly the bankers, and their clients get easy money and this Congress keeps increasing the National Debt plus raise our taxes.

[78sEVEn78]

Gotta love that good ol' fashioned USURY....NOT!

[gogeta0064]

wow, you look really different with the facial hair...

awesome video BTW

[abcmole]

Abolish the Federal Reserve

Abolish the Income Tax

They are simply tools of enslavement, they have made every worker an indentured servant or serf, you are right it must stop.

Let it collapse and return US to the Constitution and God.

[Shadandthe4thOne]

GEERUP That was a great video and I hope it inspires millions.

We can really see your heart here, we are the same. Knowing all of this makes me wonder how it's all gonna go down.

"For me and my family, we shall serve the Lord."

Thanks again

Until that day I'm being prepared by God's Word and just some plain common sense. Many will be caught off guard, but we are very intuitive and know some things on how to survive out there.

[sablechicken]

"If you love America, you will put money in it's hole"

TheOnion

[GEERUP]

YEA" WE LOVE THE MONEY HOLE "

[yrulooknatme]

I do completely believe you bro. but truly it is to late and besides God's gonna rock this place. I admire you for making this video. It's gonna get interesting! Our only hope is in Jesus. We're just visiting:)

[muzalot]

Amen! the Federal Reserve Bank (the Fed) is the biggest scam ever perpetrated on Americans.. the Fed is not "federal", it's a private corporation NOT an agency of the federal government.. it has no reserves unless you consider the increasingly worthless "money" they authorize the B.E.P. to print, such "money" is not lawful specie, as required under the U.S. Constitution (gold, silver, etc.), but rather a bunch of debt instruments, based on nothing more than the public's agreement it has value..

[muzalot]

the Fed doesn't even have the right to EXIST, much less do what it does.. the Fed has never been audited, EVEN ONCE, since their inception in 1913, yet, they create and control the supply of money of the world's greatest nation.. the inherent dangers of a private corporate that creates currency out of thin air, and avoids oversight by any external authority is the "root of all evil" in America..

thanks for sounding the alarm, but most Americans are still sound asleep, or just don't "get it"!

[Avg501]

Capitalism, like any system, has its pitfalls. It's based on people's love of money in the first place. A free market is free only as long as noone has won the game which is to acquire the most wealth and once someone is king of the hill like microsoft or any other of the untouchable corporations then either the government has to step in and change it or there's really no more free market.

[abcmole]

The Federal Reserve is not related to free market Capitalism, it is a for for the Oligarchy to enslave the masses.

To use your analogy the Federal Reserve banks are the kings of the hill, they own the currency and therefore everything.

We haven't operated as a free market for nearly 100 years.

[toddw14]

agreed, the federal reserve is as federal as fed ex.

[Shadandthe4thOne]

Yeah I hear you brother. Money is nice to have because your able to go and do as you want, but it's when we have any money when we have to depend on the Lord. When we find ourselves in this situation and trust God to provide, we gain a relationship with Him that's a real unique dependence upon His working in our lives and we're better off.

AMEN