IdrA's New ZvP Style - Fast Roach Burrowed Movement - SC2 Noob School

[oleksyj93]

the idea of this isnt really that clever. ive done that before and im bronze sooooo yeah...

[zhukov33]

i have been looking for this :)

[MrLeckerBecker]

what is when a guy dont save up the energy on nexus and go how ever instead for an 4 gate rush then ur pretty vulnerable right ? how can u prevent that in terms of reading not of scouting!?

[Jojojojof]

HuK loses to a great strat... IdrA loses to hallucinated void rays.

[EpicCreeperExplosion]

Idras a beast

[dukeaddict237]

trebis r u in master league?

[xLingyy]

Six gate isn't standard it's an all in

[Frusherful]

Where did you get this replay? Can you send me a link?

[Huevito1234]

Nice strat, will be applied =P IdrA really rocks as a zerg player but kinda sucks in his manners

[TimeToStirb]

DON'T FUCK THE HUK!!!!

[HarijsHelvigs]

it sucks, just make a robo and thats that

[Fa1nTy]

@HarijsHelvigs Protoss don't make a robo when they are doing a 4 or 6 gate timing attack... if they do it's no longer a timing attack and it's not a problem to defend

[hellopellos]

@HarijsHelvigs DERP.

[itzzspencer]

FINALLY!!! A SOLUTION TO SENTRIES !! HAHAHHAHAAHHA HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH YES!!!!!!

[TheVaultingFig]

i love how he dealt with that probe. Also, this is my third time watching this vid and I'm prettyu sure different casters have done hte same match. Just so sweet.

[Claurice]

my God, it's...beautiful

[TheAvelestar]

Very nice! I saw this in action from the EG zergs at MLG, I was very impressed. Thanks for putting this up, I was having trouble finding a good replay to watch =)

[sebc2s]

What do you do if they attack 1 minute earlier? It looks like you are completely screwed.

[doctorscience]

@sebc2s if the protoss attacks a minute earlier you don't need any fancy burrow timing because they can't kill you anyway

a minute before burrow finished huk was just starting to build two of his gateways, he wasn't ready to push yet

[emecee69]

@sebc2s WHAT IF THEY ATTACK YOU 2 MINUTES EARLIER? WHAT ABOUT 3 MINUTES? WHAT IF THEY WORKER RUSH YOU?

what a fucking moron

[sebc2s]

What do you do if they attack 1 minute earlier?

[TheVaultingFig]

@sebc2s you're a fucking piece of shit. Day9 263]

[sebc2s]

@TheVaultingFig Thank you motherfucking shitbitch fuckface fuck :)

[TheVaultingFig]

@sebc2s lol, k.

[higrack]

This is a build engineered to counter the 5 gate sentry allins that IdrA believed HuK would use - still a solid build but I'm sure in a more standard game IdrA would go for upgrades and roach speed instead of burrow upgrades so early.

[Bawlsackable]

Actually, spawning pool was at 15 supply. Remember, you lose a drone when you place a building!

[koss121]

people who call idra the bm master are just not into the competitive community, and need to get a clue before they say things like that

[SirCanuckelhead]

Man I am not a fan of Idra the person really... Holy moly was that a sweet build and execution... He does so many small things amazing... Like that fast expand.. He brings 2 drones.. Stops the pylon and he barely went over 300 min when he threw down that 2nd hatch

[SC2NoobSchool]

@SirCanuckelhead Totally. You can tell he is a player who practices and practices and absolutely perfects every minute detail of his builds.

[HappyRogueStatus]

@SirCanuckelhead have you ever spoken to him? how many times have you actually seem him speak? "Man I am not a fan of Idra the person really...." Sounds like you're making a prejudgement based on his in-game attitude. He helps the community/Esports a great deal more than his in-game 'zings' hurt anything. He's a very well mannered and intelligent person

[fightclubgyz]

@HappyRogueStatus He says what he thinks bluntly, and people get upset and label it bm.

[whiteguycash]

@fightclubgyz the problem is, he has an ego that is so big just because he is good at starcraft. THAT is what people don't like about him.

[fightclubgyz]

@whiteguycash His ego is related to Starcraft. He doesn't say he's great at anything other than Starcraft. He says he's really good at Starcraft, because he is. Most other pros think they're really good(and are), but don't mention it. That isn't modesty. That's wanting to look modest.

[SirCanuckelhead]

@HappyRogueStatus Ok buddy, take a seat, breath into this paper bag. 1, 2, 3... Nice ok good. Now that you are a bit more relaxed about the situation. I am entitled to my own opinion thank you very much as you are aswell. However I will tell you why I feel this way, and it is mainly due to his in-game "zings". I belive respect is a major part of any community or esport. I am not a political fan, as in I do not care how well you can speak when you are able to take your time and think.

[SirCanuckelhead]

@HappyRogueStatus To me, when it is on the field, when the action is hot. How do you compose yourself and how much do you respect your fellow players. The amount of games he does not GG, against teammates and many others, is just disgraceful. If he cut down is ingame rage, and complement players who do the correct build to beat him. That is why I do not like Idra, you can let him pillow talk you all you want.

[HappyRogueStatus]

@SirCanuckelhead well you've just made your opinion known that you think it's BM to not GG at the end of the game. You are mistaken, sir. I really don't understand why some people think it's BM not to gg. These guys play literally thousands of games. Granted, sometimes depending on the context of the situation you can simply tell someone is BMing by not GGing, but that doesn't mean he's raging. If you listen to his interviews OUTSIDE the game, you have the chance to hear his POV.

[ps3mark]

@HappyRogueStatus It IS bm, especially in a casted tournament with tens of thousands of people watching, every other pro gamer does why can't he?

[MrSh0time]

@SirCanuckelhead IdrA has the potential to be the best SC2 player IN THE WORLD. He is one of the few, if not only, players that, if left unbothered, will play and execute his builds PERFECTLY. His major downfall is that he gets angry about any sort of "cheesy tactics", or in other words, anything that's not macro play. If he would just come to terms with the fact that there are many ways to play this game, he wouldn't rage as much, and he would pull out the win far more often.

[LPchief]

but... why build so much sentries when stalkers are OP as hell anyway, especially vs roach? :( or am i wrong? :(

[SirCanuckelhead]

@LPchief Problem about zerg is that they can get units out fast. You need to save as much dmg on your stalkers as possible.. FF the ramp to stop reinforcement and just keepling the lings and roaches away from your money stalkers, which are fairly expensive.

[Bawlsackable]

@SirCanuckelhead lol "Problem" about zerg? You mean the good thing :D

[a7chemist]

@LPchief Stalkers arent OP. Force fields are.

[BTape]

@LPchief because sentries are even more OP

[galaxaone]

@LPchief cos you can forcefield the ramp keeping the zerg confind ( verry enoying for zerg)

[waihou]

a very good tutorial



[danman2125]

This is why Idra is currently the best SC2 player - immaculate timings

[kakashi710]

@danman2125 idra is good but i wouldnt call him the best

[goodburgerman0]

@kakashi710 maybe just the best in the west



[fezan84]

sick strategy!

[SC2Owl]

Thanks for explaining this, i casted a game between idra and huk yesterday and was myself a bit confused about what idra was doing there...

[RobLoach]

IdrA Rage Win..... Beautiful build.

[convalescence1986]

MLG Gamebattles has a replay pack on the front page for MLG Dallas

[Ult1mateT3cc]

i see 15 Pool not 14 pool .....

CAN u upload the replay or tell us where i get this rep ?

[Tapey01]

@Ult1mateT3cc I think idra used it at mlg, download the mlg replay pack and just look through the games he played vs P

[n00b1n8R]

@Ult1mateT3cc

MLG's website hosts them, or just google a sc2 replay site

[Ult1mateT3cc]

i see 15 Pool not 14 pool .....

[StarFanaticCraft]

i guess its time to ladder once more.

[RicochetArt]

IDRA you fucking boss!

[Devon187]

wow this looks like a ... make them rage build too ... nice :)

[MrSentrip]

Really nice. Hope to see more IdrA games. It's always fun to see a good troll in action.

[TDBhCorsica]

@MrSentrip Athene = troll. Idra = crybaby.

[koss121]

@MrSentrip you're an idiot

[Akantorz12]

@MrSentrip Go check out AtheneWins

[simengrs]

lol ima go ladder now :)))

[nathykinz]

Is this the game where beforehand Idra said ' Huk couldn't beat me in a real game'?

I think if that had been the other way around Idra would not of GG'd at all, infact quite the opposite.

[Sirandrewthe7th]

@nathykinz Idra didn't GG here.

[MrDJlikesPIE]

@Sirandrewthe7th huk left to early prob , and if idra said gg it would of been rude

[Juli0o12]

This is a good strat... specially against the people that like sentries a shit ton.

[goldsmash9]

@Juli0o12 it works really well against huk cos huks speciallity is sentries

[BradenR3]

@Juli0o12 not alot of players go heavy on their sentries, so HuK had to of done 3gate sentry expand.