you really need to clarify yourself before everyone on youtube tears you apart, lol. Poomse is at the heart of traditional tkd. I agree it has somewhat been "bastardized" by the shortening of stances etc. For me, poomse "is" REAL tkd. Please give us your defitinition.
@DTIESTO16 dude. 20-years of experience and the 5-time Korean National Champion, Grand Master Jun Kim, would disagree with you. I accept that everyone has a different view of what martial arts are. But ask ANY traditionalist; they will tell you the same. Poomse is where we refine our technique to the point of flawless perfection. It puts the "art" in "martial art."
THOUGH TECHNICALY CORRECT THEY SEEM TO be powerless the korean had the sharpest form Im sure they are all adept fighters In the olimpyc stylized arena tkd has become concerned with finess and agility like most arts today they have become thats its hard to find any real effective applications
Kukkiwon have no standard the koryo vs koryo tells you that as that girl was black listed with otheres for standing against this rubbish from the Master Grade and very few have guts to say whats wrong
ohhh my God, hahahaaaha! just now I read all comments and I can't belive what I'm reading.. hollyyy... I'm ready to say deeply SORRY to anyone who can put better poomsae on youtube from this korean,Kim Bo Hyeon. I mean korean sport, they say how it is done, not US, europe, or anyone else who took poomsae and made laugh out of it..
Hello? Motto? are you crazy? the vietanamese guys' bones look like their gonna get pulled out of his body. and he doesnt snap his extremities at the end of the movement.
can You please tell me in what way 'friends' who are standing behind him can help him while he is doing poomsae???? I mean, wtf? and korean, in my oppinion is better, and he is whit reason world champion...
I would have to agree with piddy; the vitnamesse guy should of won; the Korean had friends in the stands; u could see all of them watching and some even looking like they were trying to help him. They were all pretty good though.
These forms are good for local or state level, but I'm disappointed that these are the best in the world for WTF. There is also a bias towards Koreans at this tournament. First place is one thing, but winning by half of point. It is not that good.
i would personally say that the Vietnamese guy should have won that, I am an international Taekwonmudo technical judge, and the world Taekwonmudo patterns champion, these people have no flow, and rythm!
I try not to favor my own point of view above all others and think walk around living a lie, being ugly to people and hating everyone. I think displaying the humility to learn a form is the beginning and end of the lesson of forms. It ensures that the power and ability to kill and maim other human beings isn't in the hands of arrogant fools or prejudicial hypocrits.
And hey, simp, AAMAsho, Ross, I'm WTF (and now ATKDGMA) and I'll get some videos posted of me doing forms and some others and see what you think. I'll check to see if you've posted yourself also. I think ITF forms are good too, and yeah I dislike the Tae Guk; I practice the Pal Gae system. I also know that the form cirriculum is abbreviated. I learn as many forms as possible from lots of styles because of what they teach.
Sad, but I also agree that WTF's poomsaes are horrible!! I think karate kata are so much more elegant and powerful to watch. I don't think there's anyone from WTF that can perform patterns like Luca Valdesi or Michael Milon.
I agree with TaeKwonRoss. WTF ineed. It's cruel to give them dan rankings; a false sense of confidence and competence would surely get them killed in a real fight.
God the WTF poomsae are horrible....Im a 3rd dan in ITF and I know I should be open minded to other stylists own ways of doing things but these wouldnt even place at a regional tournament never mind the world championships!!!
3:41 lol that guy must be so pissed.
QuicksilverHammer 6 months ago
The Taeback Poomsae it looks like Taeguk forms...
B1SpkTKD 2 years ago
Whoa, the Vietnamese guy went way too fast on counts 5-8 of Taebaek, in my opinion. The Koreans are always the best, lol.
firebat71 2 years ago 5
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this is so gayyyyy..... I hate how the wtf bastardizes REAL taekwon-do. This is just ridiculous
AndersonChan84 2 years ago
you really need to clarify yourself before everyone on youtube tears you apart, lol. Poomse is at the heart of traditional tkd. I agree it has somewhat been "bastardized" by the shortening of stances etc. For me, poomse "is" REAL tkd. Please give us your defitinition.
Travis, 5th Dan
firebat71 2 years ago
@firebat71 wow wow wow calm down... poomsae is at the heart of TRADITIONAL tkd? hahaha dude you've got some learnings to do ;)
DTIESTO16 1 year ago
@DTIESTO16 dude. 20-years of experience and the 5-time Korean National Champion, Grand Master Jun Kim, would disagree with you. I accept that everyone has a different view of what martial arts are. But ask ANY traditionalist; they will tell you the same. Poomse is where we refine our technique to the point of flawless perfection. It puts the "art" in "martial art."
firebat71 5 months ago
THOUGH TECHNICALY CORRECT THEY SEEM TO be powerless the korean had the sharpest form Im sure they are all adept fighters In the olimpyc stylized arena tkd has become concerned with finess and agility like most arts today they have become thats its hard to find any real effective applications
davidlantz1035 3 years ago 3
lousy iranian
rajahabdul 3 years ago 5
this discussion reminds me of gamer-trashtalk after a Clanbase ladder match :)
diedsj 4 years ago
omg, where is the power in the techniques?!?!?!?
StephLE 4 years ago
lol ur rite
farazzeba 4 years ago
The vitnamesse guy should of won. he was the best. I'm a taekwondogirl, so, i know something about it. (;
camillaskad 4 years ago
I totally agree with you, Vietnamesse 1, korea 2 , iran 3....
doystkd 3 years ago
Im a koran.
thanks for all your comments, I will ask to Gukkiwon, anyway I will do the best of my best for having fair match in any taekwondo.
gwonwhee 4 years ago
fatcontroller | October 24, 2007
Kukkiwon have no standard the koryo vs koryo tells you that as that girl was black listed with otheres for standing against this rubbish from the Master Grade and very few have guts to say whats wrong
fatcontroller 4 years ago
thought soo... ;)
tkdcro 4 years ago
ohhh my God, hahahaaaha! just now I read all comments and I can't belive what I'm reading.. hollyyy... I'm ready to say deeply SORRY to anyone who can put better poomsae on youtube from this korean,Kim Bo Hyeon. I mean korean sport, they say how it is done, not US, europe, or anyone else who took poomsae and made laugh out of it..
tkdcro 4 years ago
if you ask me vietnam shouldn't have won the medal.. there were much better competitors behind him.. saw them live so..
tkdcro 4 years ago
Hello? Motto? are you crazy? the vietanamese guys' bones look like their gonna get pulled out of his body. and he doesnt snap his extremities at the end of the movement.
yummymyk23 4 years ago
can You please tell me in what way 'friends' who are standing behind him can help him while he is doing poomsae???? I mean, wtf? and korean, in my oppinion is better, and he is whit reason world champion...
tkdcro 4 years ago
I would have to agree with piddy; the vitnamesse guy should of won; the Korean had friends in the stands; u could see all of them watching and some even looking like they were trying to help him. They were all pretty good though.
HeLL0MoTTo 4 years ago
there aren´t very good.
1600R 4 years ago
These forms are good for local or state level, but I'm disappointed that these are the best in the world for WTF. There is also a bias towards Koreans at this tournament. First place is one thing, but winning by half of point. It is not that good.
masterkanaar5126 4 years ago
i would personally say that the Vietnamese guy should have won that, I am an international Taekwonmudo technical judge, and the world Taekwonmudo patterns champion, these people have no flow, and rythm!
piddy5 4 years ago
looks like 3 robots ^_^
KGSGoFreak 4 years ago
shut the fuck up,wtf poopmse are good,but if the artist are bad the poomse are bad.i like very much the itf forms,but the wtf forms are good too
Foferguayota 4 years ago
I try not to favor my own point of view above all others and think walk around living a lie, being ugly to people and hating everyone. I think displaying the humility to learn a form is the beginning and end of the lesson of forms. It ensures that the power and ability to kill and maim other human beings isn't in the hands of arrogant fools or prejudicial hypocrits.
Pope2501 5 years ago
And hey, simp, AAMAsho, Ross, I'm WTF (and now ATKDGMA) and I'll get some videos posted of me doing forms and some others and see what you think. I'll check to see if you've posted yourself also. I think ITF forms are good too, and yeah I dislike the Tae Guk; I practice the Pal Gae system. I also know that the form cirriculum is abbreviated. I learn as many forms as possible from lots of styles because of what they teach.
Pope2501 5 years ago
Is anyone suprised that the KOREAN won a KOREAN competition?
Can't say I like what I see either.
Pope2501 5 years ago
This is a Red Belt Pattern...i dont understand why hes doing it, the 3rd dan one is far better.
mizzng 5 years ago
mmm please grow up my friends grow up, i don't belive that all of you practice taekwondo but if you feel good posting crap...
MasterSoniMx 5 years ago
It was ok, but I'd expect that level at club or maybe national, not international standard.
dexios 5 years ago
not all wtf poomsae is this bad all the wtf artist in bermuda are elegant ther poomsae looks hot and it wtf but i agree these guy look like shit
taekwondokid1983 5 years ago
Sad, but I also agree that WTF's poomsaes are horrible!! I think karate kata are so much more elegant and powerful to watch. I don't think there's anyone from WTF that can perform patterns like Luca Valdesi or Michael Milon.
simplelogik 5 years ago
@simplelogik i think karate forms look like they wher made in 5 minuets. i see no meaning or pasian in them. but thats just me
punkassbitch49 11 months ago
I agree with TaeKwonRoss. WTF ineed. It's cruel to give them dan rankings; a false sense of confidence and competence would surely get them killed in a real fight.
AMAshodan12 5 years ago
God the WTF poomsae are horrible....Im a 3rd dan in ITF and I know I should be open minded to other stylists own ways of doing things but these wouldnt even place at a regional tournament never mind the world championships!!!
TaeKwonRoss 5 years ago