A QUESTION: The P500 concept is a sideways "double bubble". In a recent US airline design competition, the winner (a team from MIT) featured a sideways double bubble. They argued that instead of generating load (as in current "tube with wings" aircraft), a wide cabin would generate some lift, like a cheap man's BWB. My question is: WHY DID AIRBUS DROP THIS DESIGN? The A380 could have been a very different aircraft, with better fuel efficiency and possibly more useful as a cargo aircraft.
@nonsequiturboy I think the original reason they had for looking at that concept was that they could use two A340 fuselages, hence cheaper. However, the structural strengthening required to make that work would have made the aircraft prohibitively heavy. Furthermore, the horizontally-lengthened shape of a fuselage shape like that does not make a very good pressure vessel - it distorts badly when pressurised.
All in all, just a bit too wacky to actually work. Good concept though! XD
Maybe once you have matured you will be able to see things in a objective manner without having a stupid nationalistic and patriotic bias. THEN we can talk again else i have nothing more to say as its to tiresome and timeconsumig to rectify you everytime you post one of the biggest nonsense i've ever read. Believe what you want its good to know airlines do know what they do and don't relay on opionion of a biased ignorant cheerleader. Look at salesnumbers of both companies and you will see.
Are WE talking about looks????? NO, we talked about technical aspects and not how good or bad something looks. Else i would claim the 747LCF would be the most ugly plane but forgetting it was not designed to look good instead it was made to be a excellent freighter! Thats what is the difference between some fanboys without the slightlest knowledge of aviation and real experts. AIRLINES don't buy planes for how they look . They buy planes for what they CAN.
Arguing with you its like discussing with a child. Please GROW Up! YOU said the A380 doesn't truimph over the 747 in none aspect. I have prove YOU wrong for the XXXth time and now you are avoiding the discussion by judging the A380 by its look. BTW, Airbus IS NOT FRENCH nor it does base on french engineering, do some research before posting CRAP! And you lie you are by NO WAY a aircraft enthusiast just a Boeing FANBOY. Maybe you did notice i've never bashed Boeings but stated just some critics?
I wont start to argue to convince you against your stupid bias for american planes. But what you write is utter nonsense. The A380 is faster, can fly higher, can climb faster, higher thrust weight ratio, can land slower, carry much more payload, more range, 30% more fuel efficient and more safe then any 747 and thats FACT! If that isnt any triumpf over the 747 then you better tell the airlines which ordered 200 of them! Btw the 747 ISN'T doing well it sold jut 8 copies as passanger plane.
Again you are showing your lack of knowledge. Airbus was a gathering of diffrent europan company's which were almost as (1920) old as Boeing. For example the Comet the first jet liner was built by a company which knows belongs to Airbus. Same as Concorde. So wrong Boeing has not more experience in constructing planes. Bashing the A380 doesn't change the fact the 747 is obsolete as the A380 triumphs in EVERY aspect over the 747 like it or not.
I also have traveled frequently on Boeing s and they drip.Boeing planes are louder then Airbus. The A380 for example is STAGE 3 certified while the 747,777 NOT!!. And WRONG Airbus planes have better safety record then Boeings. Better you don't start to argue about build quality. Shall i tell you about 737 buckling issues in the tailcone or wiring issues or structural failues?? Btw Airbuses are made by company of Mercedes so your analogy is wrong. How ignorant Boeing cheerleaders have become.
Better vapor pouring out of the top which is normal then water dripping on passangers as oftern experienced on Boeings. That must be a fresh experience. Face it you have no idea what you are talking from
It looks like there will be a large capacity & cost gap between the largest widebody twinjets and the A380-800. I don't think the 747-8 will be too popular as that is a revamped 1960s design.
I contend that a composite two engined version of status 6 would be the type of aircraft to fill the gap. It would have a capacity close to the A380-800 yet have an operating cost close to the 777-300ER and be able to operate from more airports than the A380-800 (at least a smaller winged version).
comments so often from Boeing fans, based on what..? Both Boeing and Airbus sell planes, the competition is healthy thing I think... I thought l Americans love free markets ,)
It seems Europeans are less nationalistic generally speaking.
i saw a vid once on a concept idea for the 380, while it was on the drawing boards and it had twin fuselages and twin tails i think it was on the discovery program worlds biggest airliner. they abandoned that idea cus it wud ave been two heavy
the dubble bubble is cool!
figure261 3 weeks ago
A QUESTION: The P500 concept is a sideways "double bubble". In a recent US airline design competition, the winner (a team from MIT) featured a sideways double bubble. They argued that instead of generating load (as in current "tube with wings" aircraft), a wide cabin would generate some lift, like a cheap man's BWB. My question is: WHY DID AIRBUS DROP THIS DESIGN? The A380 could have been a very different aircraft, with better fuel efficiency and possibly more useful as a cargo aircraft.
nonsequiturboy 1 year ago
@nonsequiturboy I think the original reason they had for looking at that concept was that they could use two A340 fuselages, hence cheaper. However, the structural strengthening required to make that work would have made the aircraft prohibitively heavy. Furthermore, the horizontally-lengthened shape of a fuselage shape like that does not make a very good pressure vessel - it distorts badly when pressurised.
All in all, just a bit too wacky to actually work. Good concept though! XD
wahaya2 4 months ago
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nonsequiturboy 1 year ago
for some reason I like p500
movieclub01 1 year ago
Maybe once you have matured you will be able to see things in a objective manner without having a stupid nationalistic and patriotic bias. THEN we can talk again else i have nothing more to say as its to tiresome and timeconsumig to rectify you everytime you post one of the biggest nonsense i've ever read. Believe what you want its good to know airlines do know what they do and don't relay on opionion of a biased ignorant cheerleader. Look at salesnumbers of both companies and you will see.
techdefined 2 years ago
Are WE talking about looks????? NO, we talked about technical aspects and not how good or bad something looks. Else i would claim the 747LCF would be the most ugly plane but forgetting it was not designed to look good instead it was made to be a excellent freighter! Thats what is the difference between some fanboys without the slightlest knowledge of aviation and real experts. AIRLINES don't buy planes for how they look . They buy planes for what they CAN.
techdefined 2 years ago
Arguing with you its like discussing with a child. Please GROW Up! YOU said the A380 doesn't truimph over the 747 in none aspect. I have prove YOU wrong for the XXXth time and now you are avoiding the discussion by judging the A380 by its look. BTW, Airbus IS NOT FRENCH nor it does base on french engineering, do some research before posting CRAP! And you lie you are by NO WAY a aircraft enthusiast just a Boeing FANBOY. Maybe you did notice i've never bashed Boeings but stated just some critics?
techdefined 2 years ago 7
I wont start to argue to convince you against your stupid bias for american planes. But what you write is utter nonsense. The A380 is faster, can fly higher, can climb faster, higher thrust weight ratio, can land slower, carry much more payload, more range, 30% more fuel efficient and more safe then any 747 and thats FACT! If that isnt any triumpf over the 747 then you better tell the airlines which ordered 200 of them! Btw the 747 ISN'T doing well it sold jut 8 copies as passanger plane.
techdefined 2 years ago 3
Again you are showing your lack of knowledge. Airbus was a gathering of diffrent europan company's which were almost as (1920) old as Boeing. For example the Comet the first jet liner was built by a company which knows belongs to Airbus. Same as Concorde. So wrong Boeing has not more experience in constructing planes. Bashing the A380 doesn't change the fact the 747 is obsolete as the A380 triumphs in EVERY aspect over the 747 like it or not.
techdefined 2 years ago
I also have traveled frequently on Boeing s and they drip.Boeing planes are louder then Airbus. The A380 for example is STAGE 3 certified while the 747,777 NOT!!. And WRONG Airbus planes have better safety record then Boeings. Better you don't start to argue about build quality. Shall i tell you about 737 buckling issues in the tailcone or wiring issues or structural failues?? Btw Airbuses are made by company of Mercedes so your analogy is wrong. How ignorant Boeing cheerleaders have become.
techdefined 2 years ago
Better vapor pouring out of the top which is normal then water dripping on passangers as oftern experienced on Boeings. That must be a fresh experience. Face it you have no idea what you are talking from
techdefined 2 years ago
This is perfectly normal you idiot.
bacnka 2 years ago
Where can one find drawings for the P602 concept?
vilniusvilkas 2 years ago
1:04 really hard ripp-of of the 747
TommyKXx 2 years ago
It looks like there will be a large capacity & cost gap between the largest widebody twinjets and the A380-800. I don't think the 747-8 will be too popular as that is a revamped 1960s design.
I contend that a composite two engined version of status 6 would be the type of aircraft to fill the gap. It would have a capacity close to the A380-800 yet have an operating cost close to the 777-300ER and be able to operate from more airports than the A380-800 (at least a smaller winged version).
FlashFizz 2 years ago
boeing rocks
joejayd 3 years ago
which is not a very good thing in planes. gets people motion sick and stuff
Thescarydutchman 2 years ago 2
airbus rules!!
boeing go home
scareface999 3 years ago
Status 6 would've been good as a 747-8 competitor
S7r0ng3r 3 years ago
The status 14 is the better...
yogods 3 years ago
i think P 500 is cool !!!
techdeck321 3 years ago
airbus suck boeing rock
jawwad000 3 years ago
Why you hear these 'airbus suck boeing rock '
comments so often from Boeing fans, based on what..? Both Boeing and Airbus sell planes, the competition is healthy thing I think... I thought l Americans love free markets ,)
It seems Europeans are less nationalistic generally speaking.
mikrokupu 3 years ago
Airbus Boeings, Rock Sucks!
magknight 2 years ago
t is g a ok
xaxloxa978 3 years ago
love this vid!!!!!!!
kingofflight 4 years ago 2
i saw a vid once on a concept idea for the 380, while it was on the drawing boards and it had twin fuselages and twin tails i think it was on the discovery program worlds biggest airliner. they abandoned that idea cus it wud ave been two heavy
tbgwill01 4 years ago
Airbus abandoned the twin fuselage design due to the un-ability to evacuate the plane in the industry time limit of 90 seconds.
flyekkeepdiscovering 2 years ago
Very interesting video, thanks for sharing. Someone knows what song this is?
techdefined 4 years ago
neato ambient song
edyken77 4 years ago
what song is that?
blaxpear 4 years ago
nice video thanks for posting
john125john 4 years ago