Greenpeace discovers new species in threatened Bering Sea

[HostileNegotiator]

This is so cool there are so many things we still don't even know about!

[WhiteGangster400]

This is stupid shit

[poonjab94]

i think i need to overfish every day

[harr7959]

What a bunch of self important twats!

[thehuntman46]

god i hate it when my woman bites the head of my dick off!!!!!

[zeppelinrulez22]

this video was uploaded on my 18th birthday ^^

[drumzstix666]

what's sad is that we have more knowledge about space life then aquatic life.

[dito4]

you are right! I think we have to put more energy in projects from the sealife.

[Splooshiba]

id say space is cooler

[MegaGeek325]

@Splooshiba

Space is so far mostly empty... while the ocean is brimming with life.

The idea of life on other planets is cool... But we have so MUCH here! And no one cares.

...

Yeah, space is cooler, but the ocean's more important. We could potentially all die if too many species go extinct. (Potentially is a key word here.)

[Splooshiba]

but, if we stay on earth, we are 100% going to die in the long term. if we branch into space, the possibilities are endless.

oceans are very finite, space is.. huge

[MegaGeek325]

@Splooshiba

I'm just saying, our Earth is going to last a whole lot longer if we care about it.

Space is big, but until we can find a way to make it possible to go farther out there in one lifetime... We should focus on Earth more. That's not to say stop space stuff in general; There's a lot of people on this planet. We can all contribute a bit to each.

[Splooshiba]

that's fair enough. many people would completely stop all space programs given the chance, but i think its too greater opportunity to avoid.

[jessiejames2012]

nice editing software what is that 93 xp haha

[growinghigher]

Yes evolution is proven fact. It does not explain the origin of life, just the origin of species.

And yes, we can see evolution occuring on a human time scale. Interesting fact... 8% percent of our species DNA is directly retroviral in origin... meaning our ancestors had viruses insert themselves in thier DNA which was then passed to thier progeny through thier gamates. Whats more awesome is that some of viral genes are now essential to very human functions (eg formation of the placenta)

[R22beta11]

only a complete imature,stupid,retard with a brain the size of a pea could possibly even begin to believe evolution...just look around you if evolution is true y don't we see it today?

i'm not sure how u guys got talking about evolution but to the video green peace is a bunch of hippis and jerks who live off the real working americans...

does anyone have any idea how much tax payer dollers were spent to discover those stupid spunges.....

[deckadad01]

well asshole, It is surely not better to waste 100 billon dollars and ruin the econnomy for war in afganistan! Your an asshole!

[lionessimba]

what ould gren peace do with such a big donation?

[albinio157]

Nobody fishes past 125 fathoms in the Bering. I fished up there for nearly a decade and I've never seen a sponge, once, come up in the net. All the bottom we tow is muddy, flat, and far far away from coral and canyones.

[EBP1994]

Its sooo funny how people comment when they dont know what they're talking about, nd then they find themselves lying ...just to show off

haahaa

[IONIESKYE]

''The year 2009 may be the tipping point in human history when society responds to or ignores global warming. The UN climate meeting scheduled for Copenhagen in December may be humanity's last chance to avoid total chaos. It is too late to avoid some climate chaos. For historical comparison, we might ask: When did someone on Easter Island first wonder if cutting down all the trees to roll stone statues around was really a good idea? A generation before they annihilated themselves?

[therflo13]

Earth's temp. was hotter in 800 AD.

Our global climate does change periodicly, however pollution is not the cause. In fact it actually cools the planet and is called global dimming.

The cause of climate change is an increase in sun spots and the weakening of the Earth's magnetic field.

I don't blame scientist who produce global warming material. After all that the best way for them to cash in.

[littlefred811]

So, can I use this sponge like a lufa???

[SaintJmartin]

Last tune name?

[Conan568]

In the threatened Bearing sea.

What's it threatened by, Green-piss's bilge water and sewage, or the bullsh1t  they spew?

I've met Patrick Moore, one of the founders of Green-piss.

He was disgusted by their tactics and hypocrisy and left the org.

[toghax09]

They said what it was threatened by like ten times. What are you fucking retarded.

[Conan568]

No, my IQ is 134 and I have a college degree. I don't have to work because I get paid rent by Loser's like yourself, and I own 5 million worth of land, and 3 houses.

I also make custom knives worth $500 to $10,000.

How's that pottery class working out for you?

If you want to see a real Retard, find a mirror.

[BorisBogdanovic87]

Wow 134 IQ and you couldn't finde better name then "Conan568" hahahahahahahahhahahahah.

[toghax09]

So a internet lier eh? 5 million huh? Big timing it here. wow we got a winner.

[Conan568]

It's all true, but you wouldn't know the truth if you cracked your thick skull open on it.

Not that I give a fuk what you think.

And it's liar not lier, twit.

[HolySpringRolls]

IQ is unreliable. its time limited and there's only one question out of each category. if you know the meaning of the word "inept", how is that going to prove that someone is smart? and anyone can study IQ questions and eventually score all points. its easy, every fool can do it.

hey, lets continue braging. I've been to navy, now work in a dockyard and earn 4 digits a year. a lot of money from the company goes for the orphanage. how cool is that?

[whiteyIl]

natural selection has been removed...government helps morons anything thats illegal that could kill you, i say let the idiots do it remove them from the gene pool dont protect them ARRG

[yarlong]

noijdwq

[dckmn]

a sponge really...

[mssnor]

I wonder if we find some giant sand worm some time :P

[Krawnikal]

Also, pre-historic insects too?

The only thing that changed from dragon flies NOW and dragon flies a hundred million years ago is that they were bigger back then, there's not too many other differences other than that my friends, beleiving in evolution is just as bad as beleiving in God or religion.

[Krawnikal]

I find it funny that people gave me a thumbs down for my comment, but couldn't give me a real scientific reason why, and I doubt any 'answers' that evolution may have will totally answer my questions.

[HolySpringRolls]

evolution was proven. if dna analysis, bone reconstruction and dating methods are wrong and unreliable, then tell forensics to stop using these methods to solve crimes.

who said we came from monkeys? dont listen to creationist bs. we have evolved from a common ancestor. is it not possible for fish to evolve into amphibians? look at mudskipper.

there are transitional fossils. ask any paleontologist. look at panderichthys and tiktaalik. and now a fossil was found, an ancestor of seals.

[Krawnikal]

Ok , for one buddy, I am totally for evolution, not Darwin's version, but I do beleive evolution occured, however, comparing forensics to paleontology is almost laughable, there's waaay different methods of dating for each of those things.

And where the hell do you get off talking about intelligent design with me? I don't beleive in any god or gods or godesses...lol.

[therflo13]

"Evolution was proven." When?

Carbon dating is never used to solve crimes.

[trulyskewed]

You are acting like a moron - I'm not saying you are a moron. If you want to know why carbon dating is useful for aging geological samples, but not useful for solving crimes, please respond.

If you're not interested in thinking, then don't waste our precious time. I think I got dumber reading your comment.

[therflo13]

If you were smart enough to read the comments leading up to it then you would've comprehended it.

You don't need my help to get dumber, clearly...

If you are going to make a feeble attempt to make carbon dating appear remotely accurate then you are wasting your time. Save it for someone with a lower IQ.

[trulyskewed]

I read the comments before and I don't see anything that would make using 'solving crimes' a relevant point in this silly argument.

Would you use a yard stick to measure a pimple on an ant's ass? Then why would you use carbon dating to solve crimes that happend in the recent past?

So do you have another argument that a 7 year old wouldn't laugh at?

[therflo13]

My comment about crimes was a reply to HolySpringRolls'. I was quickly stating that forensics do not use those methods to solve crimes. Comprehension is not one of your strong points is it?

[Krawnikal]

Seriously I cannot accept evolution as a credible theory.

There is NOOOOOOO solid phsyical scientific evidence of ANY macro-evolution, yes, micro-evolution(species adaptation and such) exists, though that's not really "Evolution" like Macro-Evolution, claiming bullshit like we came from monkeys, Yeah we came from monkeys, everything on else on earth came from something else too, but the something else is never around, well monkeys probably shouldn't be around either.

[FreeeeS]

idiot does the paralitic mean anything to you?

[Krawnikal]

idiot do you even know that I don't care?

[Leon61294]

actually i thought maybe he's right. If humans are evolved from ape then why now for over millenias, humans stops evolving?

[thedesktopninja]

Because we've intervened in the process. We keep children and adults alive long enough to reproduce that otherwise shouldn't have. Natural evolution won't occur as long as we're doing those sorts of things (not that they're bad).

[Spectreofwar]

One of the things to consider is that Evolution works on the premise that a creature constantly adapts to suit its environment. Over the past 4000+ years humans have learned better and better ways to adapt their environment to serve their own ends. The more we adapt our environment to suit us, the less we have to evolve to survive in our environment. See how that works?

Sorry for the late response, I just felt like commenting.

[HolySpringRolls]

btw rodhocetus shows a more accurate evolution to whales. it shows a nasal drift.

[Krawnikal]

Hey green peace!

You still fuckin suck!

[iFocusX01]

Krawnikal:

"Hey green peace!

You still fuckin suck!"

That's fuckin agreed! HAHAHA

Green peace should haved named themselves "Brown Piece of Shit" instead.. but that's just my opinion

[kingofmultiplication]

dude ur a gaybo

[mammal46]

Why is GreenPeace always collecting checks from me to protect dolphins and whales, then hanging out in the Bearing Sea checking out sponges? What's wrong with SpongeBob? He's cute, yellow, and absorbingly porus!

Seriously! They've cashed their last check from me.  Science is nothing more than conjecture and therory. They can't prove their claims. Why do you think they always change their therories? God created the earth and there's no athiests aboard sinking ships or in earthquakes.

[schleit]

NMFS does charters every summer and new, snails, crab, sponges, fish, clams, worms... are "discovered" every year and I mean every year. GP only knows how to promote their failures with propoganda. Nice sponge..try looking for intelligent life on your boat.

[freeyourmindusa]

just so you know if this species goes so does all life on earth . that means you. not your kids.fucking retards .

[JammerJawz]

I thought Greenpeace were supposed to protect wildlife, instead they pluck it from the sea.

[risingphoenix35]

Polar Bear Listed as Threatened Species

ALASKA DAILY NEWS BULLETIN 5-14-2008

"WASHINGTON -- Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne announced Wednesday that the agency will list the polar bear as threatened under the Endangered Species Act, a decision that could cast the bears as the enduring symbol of the effects of global warming."

THANK YOU Secretary Kempthorne !!

And thank you Al Gore, Greenpeace, Arnold, National Geographic, the EU... etc. you made a difference.

[alexacru]

here's one...they say that the polar bear evolved from the brown bear during the ice age (enviroment change)..today the polar bear's enviroment is slowly melting so they say that it will become extinct...well if we stick to evolution it should go back to being a brown bear so don't worry :P

[risingphoenix35]

Not as far fetched as it might seem:

AP May. 11, 2006

"IQALUIT, Nunavut - Northern hunters, scientists and people with vivid imaginations have discussed the possibility for years.

But Roger Kuptana, a guide from Canada's Sachs Harbor was the first to suspect it had actually happened when he proposed that a strange-looking bear shot last month by an American sports hunter might be half polar bear, half grizzly."

[spike378]

you moron, evolutions takes million of years

[therflo13]

technically no. There has been an experiment in which wild foxes were domesticated and new species created in a time span of less than 10 years. Which is also the main scientific experiment used to disprove Darwin.

[mxnad535]

Wait, did you just say the change in a species' genetic expression due to changes in the species' environment disproves Darwin? And if you are speaking of the tame silver fox experiment from the USSR, that has taken over 50 years so far, and is a better example of sympatric speciation rather than Darwin's original theory of evolution (which has been elaborated in the last 150 years or so...

[therflo13]

I was pointing out that Darwins theory is considered flawed. Due to the fact that however, species can adapt to their environment (to a certain extent) they cannot just morph themselves into a completely new species. It's like saying body builders are a more evolved new species of human. Sure their bodies have adapted to stemuli, but that doesn't change their chromosome count. Frankly, fish haven't transformutated themselves into mammals. There's no concrete evidence to support that claim.

[therflo13]

Boy I worded that one wrong. I accidently said "new species". Sorry for the confusion, we all know that doen't happen in reality. They were the same species but had more tame attributes. Also the coloration varied more. All in all the enginering of the creatures on this planet did not take millions of years. Also there's no real evidence of Species turning into new species. They just adapt to the environment, to a certain extent.

[mxnad535]

species is just a word we gave to life that has adapted so much that its' very genetic makeup has changed. I know it's hard to explain stuff like this in text, especially with a 500 character limit. I think I know what you are saying now. But in reality, Darwin's theory was just the beginning-it couldn't have been perfect and was rushed into publication, but it did serve as a stepping stone, like much of science it was a place to start and elaborate on as new evidence unfolded, and it continues.

[therflo13]

I get what you're saying but I don't see any new species spawning. I've only seen unknown species that have always been here, old species that have adapted but remain geneticly the same, and slight color variations. The notion that man cam from creature is not evident. Animals are another renewable resource for us to use to our benefit.

[mxnad535]

Ahh, but my friend, we are just as much animals as the worm, the cockroach, the chimp, and the dog...man IS creature. Mutations are responsible for most of evolution. On rare instances, a mutation is actually beneficial to an organism's survival and is thus favored through natural selection. A mutation would account for a new species altogether. This still takes a long time but not very long when scaled to earth's 4.6 billion year old timeline.

[therflo13]

Right.....(sarcasm)

[mxnad535]

If you care to study some about biology, genetics, evolution, and mutation, (from a neutral, unbiased, and extremely reputable source) I'd suggest the book "Biology, Life on earth" 8th edition by Audesirk and Byers. Check out pages 298/299 for an explanation of mutations and allele frequency/genetic variability, this is what is regarded as fact in the scientific community. It may not be what you want to believe, but all evidence supports this theory.

[therflo13]

right, along with the transformer cube...

[innes247]

lol

[mxnad535]

It's not really up for discussion anymore, it has been proven and is accepted as a theory (in science, theory is even stronger than fact, a theory is the result of thousands of facts that are void of any contradictory evidence). If you like to keep your ears plugged and your eyes covered because the truth invalidates your beliefs, well, that's fine, but until you understand biology, science, and evolution, you are not going to be taken seriously by those in the real world.

[mxnad535]

cont.

and if you honestly believe that the genetic makeup of species' is not changing at all, you REALLY need to open your eyes, and it just so happens that scientists have isolated organisms and produced a genetically different species in far less time than originally was thought possible. It has never been the goal of science to find info. that is in accordance with certain beliefs, only info. leading to the truth, and it's apparent that not everyone likes to hear the truth. O well.

[therflo13]

Well you can't argue with real tangible science. Darwins amusing little theory has already been disproven by molecular science. Due to irreversible complexity intelligent design currently holds the scientific explaination for the origens of life.

[mxnad535]

Do you mean "irreducible complexity?" The term creationists created to foster the illusion of having some type of plausible evidence refuting evolution? What may I ask is "irreducibly" or 'Irreversibly" complex that cannot be accounted for by evolution and natural selection?

[therflo13]

That would be the term I had in mind. The flagellum motor would be one example. Also natural selection cannot account for DNA. "If it could be demonstrated that any comples organ existed which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive slighht modifications, my theory would absolutely break down" Charles Darwin. The flagellum motor is one of those "organs" Darwin mentioned.

[therflo13]

Continued...

By definition "natural selection" could not have functioned befor the 1st living cell. It can only act on organisms capable of replicating themselves, equiped with DNA to pass on.

Without DNA there is no self replication. But, without self replication there is no "natural selection". So, you can't use "natural selection" to explain the origin of DNA, without assuming the existance of the very thing you are trying to explain. Thus ends Darwinism. Am I right or am I right?

[mxnad535]

Well the theory of evolution deals not with the origins of life or DNA, only what happens to life after it is already here. Abiogenesis deals with origins. And yes, the flagellum motor is incredible, but it's not something that is irreducibly complex as we are aware that it is largely just an arrangement of specialized proteins. I would say that the ATP Synthase protein complex used for chemiosmosis in cellular respiration is equally impressive, if not moreso, in its' form and function.

[therflo13]

interesting... so the motor isn't irreducibly complex even though it can not function without all 40 nessecary protien parts. hmmm... that's kind of an illogical statement don't you think?

[mxnad535]

If one of the proteins became denatured and unable to fulfill its' purpose, and the flagellum motor didn't work in a particular bacteria, this would just mean that the bacteria would not be motile, like many of the other bacteria without flagellum. In that sense the motor is irreducibly complex as it cannot function without all its' necessary parts, but that doesn't mean that it cannot be accounted for by evolution.

[therflo13]

But, if the bacteria is not mobile then the flagellum would serve no useful purpose. So, bacteria would stop production of the flagellum due to Natural Selection. Because only useful parts are allowed to remain by natural selection.

[mxnad535]

It DOES serve a useful purpose, it allows the bacteria to become motile and is therefore an advantage-But that does not mean the flagellum is necessary for the bacteria's survival. It surprises me that you would use bacteria as a means to disprove evolution-what happens when you have a bacterial infection and you don't take all of your antibiotics? The new environment killed many but not all the bacteria and only the those most suited to survive in the new environment remain to repopulate.

[therflo13]

sigh... now you are sounding very illogical. If the flagellum is missing just one of the 40 necessary protien parts then the flagellum is useless. Thus, the flagellum would not be passed on to future bacteria due to natural selection. Natural selection can't produce the first life it can only take away useless parts. Which puts an enormous whole in the theory of evolution.

[mxnad535]

Why are you talking about "the first life" now? Natural selection says nothing about the first life. And yes, the flagellum would be passed on to future bacteria because the bacteria isn't "trying" to make a flagellum, nor is natural selection, it's merely a product of expressed genes which have proven to be valuable in the organism's survival in its' given environment.

[mxnad535]

If some of the flagellum are defective in an environment that favors bacteria with flagellum, then those organisms with that gene for a defective flagellum would eventually be thinned from the gene pool. That doesn't mean that there will never be any bacteria with defective flagellum in the population, but there will be less and less as time goes on.

[mxnad535]

Unless the environment changes and causes the flagellum to be a detriment to the organism's survival. Then those with "defective" flagellum would thrive and eventually dominate the population. But thanks to mutations most organisms have a handy way of adapting to a changing environment. People born with webbed feet may seem weird to you, but if sea levels rose and forced humans to become aquatic animals, they would have an easier time obtaining food and more success in the environment.

[therflo13]

A lot of "what ifs" to support an "if". "then those organisms with that gene for a defective flagellum would eventually be thinned from the gene pool." Is an example of how natural selection can only be used for deconstruction of components of the cell. Which begs the question: if it can only remove parts that are useless and cannot produce new beneficial parts, is natural selection really the process which forms life?

[mxnad535]

What about nylonase? The NEW digestive enzyme found in bacteria which allows them to digest nylon? Or lizards developing entirely NEW structures in their digestive tracts to digest certain types of vegetation, in as few as 30 years? Or the foxp2 mutation which allows for complex communication in humans?

[mxnad535]

Are you going to ask me a completely different question every time I answer your previous ones? And ONCE AGAIN, if you had read my previous posts, nobody says natural selection is the process which FORMS life, it is the process by which life changes.

[mxnad535]

You should be paying me for this education by the way...

[mxnad535]

Aside from the matter, Natural Selection doesn't even need to BUILD new components, the components are already there, but sometimes in very low numbers of a species or population. There were always people with immunity to HIV. But with HIV spreading, in another thousand years or so we might see more of them. Would we have known about them if the environment hadn't promoted the spread of HIV? No. When the environment changes,and the structures are needed,they will be expressed in the population.

[HolySpringRolls]

if you are missing one of the organs, can you function properly? does flagellum prove intelligent design? it gives us cholera. how intelligent is that?

listen to ken miller on bacterial flagellum. if 40 parts are missing, 10 are still left and perfectly usefull as type-3 secretive system.

[therflo13]

If you are missing and organ that is not paired you will die.

It proved that complex systems cannot be created by slow incrimental changes.

If 1 of the 40 protien parts are missing it is useless.

Most creatures have either a 3 or 4 chambered heart. Where is the evidence of a 3.5 chambered heart?

[Krawnikal]

Yeah and if natural selection is all it's made up to be then male primapes shouldn't have nipples and we shouldn't have as many hair follicles as we do should we?

[HolySpringRolls]

which scientist suggested males shouldnt have nipples? an embryo makes nipples before gender develops in case it would become a female.

there is solid evidence for macro evolution. we cant observe it but fossils tell their own story. thrinaxodon had fur and laid eggs. platypus still does the same. pakicetus evolved into whales.

if evolution is fake, what are these fossils doing on earth? and if dating methods cant be reliable, you can still suggest the age from the stratum it was found.

[Krawnikal]

I really don't know what you're trying to argue with me here, but maybe you need to come down to my page and we can have a fun-filled evolution discussion.

Did you know there's a theory of evolution that suggests that evolution may not be so random, but is destined to be, suggesting life evolved on other planets like they did on earth, with certain amino acids being turned off and on due to change in enviroment, again just theory, but very interesting, I can show you the video if you wish.

[glassbrain]

Speculation, not a theory. Sorry

[freeyourmindusa]

i love a green world but that is lost. nice try greenpeace

[columbo1988]

whos to say that everything takes forever to evolve,the way everything is going these days, it seems like evolution could take place in every birth.

[180vollfett]

Thank you very much! Go on with your work!

[FootinMouthDisease]

How many more life forms have we yet to discover, before we destroy them?

So much human activity results in impact which is unthinking and unknowing.

Thanks for sharing this new discovery, keep up the good works! ;-)

[diane18944]

Thank you Greepeace for making this world better. With deep respect I thank you and keep up the good work. Great video should be shown in schools and on Discovery channel. Thank you

[yesozo]

Felicidades greenpeace !!!!

adelante !!!!

[danteeep]

bravo Greenpeace !!

[dieneshugi]

So many wonders on Earth,thanks for sharing video.Peace and unconditional love.

[ufosbri]

cool

[bagwhanbill]

well done guys and gals

[cutemussy]

brilliant!

ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!

thank you so much for helping wildlife and earth's deep hidden treasures - hope that the bering sea will stay rich with life for a long time! please protect its habitat! i wish to join greenpeace one day =)

[loathi]

It's a freaking sponge xD.

[allth3s4me]

you didn't find squarepants so it doesn't count...!!

[ihaveadream1976]

Thanks a lot for sharing this great experience with us :-)

[emilianociao]

Fantastic!

Thanks!

[tiarabozen]

super gracias