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  • I don't wanna say too much for those who haven't seen the last series but, that picture that Locke drew looks eerily similar to what happens at the end of 'Across The Sea' doesn't it? The person on the ground is even posed in a similar way. I would like to be more specific here but I don't wanna spoil it for anyone. Those of you who've seen that episode know what I mean .

  • WE LIVE IN THIS HOUSE ON OAHU>>>LOOKS A LITTLE DIFFERENT NOW< BUT IS DEFINITELY THE SAME HOUSE!!

  • G-man already visiting Gordon at such a young age

  • YOung Lock Is soooooo CUTE ....

  • Yes the compass did belong to Lock in 1954 according to Richard, considering Locke gave it to him. But Richard had no idea at the time, future Locke was obsessed with knives. It's a shame... and I felt so sad for young Locke, because he was right.. in his choice. The compass initially belonged to Richard or Locke, or neither.. depending on how you look at it. I'd say none of the above. The knife had the most significance, for a knife wielding Locke.

  • 3 people agree on that game being stupid!!!

  • wats in the bottle

  • @sarahx87 It's sand from the islands beach. The same beach Locke is going to realize he can walk aain.

  • @Scoonertuna Or it's the Ash that was never explained that for whatever reason, the smoke monster can't move across, that surrounded the cabin, and also who Bram in Jacob's home surrounded himself in a circle, so the smoke monster couldn't touch him.

  • So what did Richard want John to choose and why?

  • @WhiteStar11111 I think Richard wanted Locke to choose The compass, the bottle of sand, and the book of Law. if you watch Richards face he smirks a little when Locke is looking at the book of law.

  • Can someone please explain how Locke drew the picture of the smoky?

  • @xbrindle It was either a vision of a dream. I think the person in the drawing is Locke. It's foreshadowing that Locke is going to be possessed by the smoke demon.

  • So why drew miniLocke the picture of the black smoke getting into a human form?

  • @Tschiyeah It's not necessarily the monster, we're just associating it with the picture.

    Ultimately it just existed to spice up the scene. Kind of like the numbers (although they were a motif).

  • @Damon242 dude no. We're not "just associating" it. I mean it's a pillar of black smoke (it is.^^) hurting a person.

    why hurting? cause the person has a sad smiley (this shows that he is in pain or something)

    exactly what "our" Smoky did.

  • @Tschiyeah You just explained right there that we're associating it.

    It's called semiotics, dude.

  • @Tschiyeah I think Locke is the man in the picture.

  • @Scoonertuna How was he able to gain the same abilities as Desmond?

  • @Tschiyeah Well, I think remember everyone on the island is special. Have you watched the entire series?

  • @Scoonertuna miniLocke does not remember [everyone on] the island, he just drew the picture of Smoky with (I agree) his future self.

    So he did not remember the moments like in the series finale, rather than get a shred of the future, a glimpse, a FLASH.

    You watched the series? ^^ We discuss without any form of aggression and just yet you be aggressive. We all are LOST-fans so chill dude.

  • He didn't have to be such a dick about it. Little John looks so tragic, it breaks my heart.

  • The whole episode further proved my theory that John Locke was born tragic.

    I bet he was like Walt as a child. That drawing basically predicted his fate.

  • its funny how young kids can explain there future just by some simple objects.

  • sand, compass, and next is? book of laws?

  • Interesting that he picked the knife though. He would later use knives A LOT, and was a hunter. Interesting.

  • Aw...Poor little John. His past is so sad.

  • @schoolgurl95 He was a tragic character from the beginning, but it shows that even the person with the most tragic life can be a good person. He grew up to be a good man, but fated to become a vessel for a monster.

  • @Scoonertuna ah...indeed.

  • It actually has to do with how they find the Dalai Lama. John Locke failed the test because he didn't pick up the compass therefore he isn't the true leader of the others.

  • richard will always look good.............lol.........h­e is very old though, probably only bad thing, oh besides the fact he probably has never gotten over his wifes death......man 1.16 and 1.20 thats just to wierd

  • maybe the picture on the wall symbolizes how locke is the smoke monster

  • How come richard's eyes are so black? does he have eyeliner on?

  • @RrriiiCkkk looooooooooool :D

  • @RrriiiCkkk actually the guy that plays richard syas that his eyes have always been like that, he was asked that question in an interview.....that or a fan asked him that question

  • Yeah, but Richard doesn't get that Locke hasn't time traveled yet? He doesn't have the memory of himself as a grown up. Richard should know that!!

  • i wished they made a scene where jacob comes the first time out off the island...

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  • Clearly does not have a good sense of the Game. There should be 3 pieces on the point 2nd from the right, not on the very edge.

  • i think i missed the episode that shows how richard came to the island and became imortal. does anyone know which episode it is??

  • @w1126aaa its called "ab aeterno"

  • @ktm5194 thanks!

  • @w1126aaa np

  • The guy ages well. Ill give him that.

  • i just noticed that above the man on the comic book says "Hidden Land"

  • I just watched Kundun and there's a scene just like this, where they ask the young Dali Lama to pick the things that already belonged to him. Just a cool connection I thought, wonder if that was intentional.

  • Locke should have picked the Compass, The sand and The Book Of Law.

  • Locke didn't pick three things. He only considered the sand and the compass. His final choice was the knife.

    Richard was the one making the mistake here. He didn't understand how time travel worked. Locke had given Richard the compass some years earlier. There was no way young Locke would know about that yet.

    It was Richard's mistake, not young Locke's.

  • what did that ghost whisperer ad mean???????????? that totally baffled me like hot butter on my nuts

  • 1:19 holy hell i forgot he drew that!!!!

  • why is everyone saying Locke didn't pick the compass when he clearly did? See 2:45

  • Oh man. This is one of the most haunting scenes of the series for me. What was so bad? What could be learned from this test? Probably the producers just wanted to screw with us. They sure did that a lot. Damnit.

  • @SPFrobber Yeah they really suck.

  • @SPFrobber Richard gave Locke the test because he wanted to see if Locke was worthy to lead The Others. It was a screening process.

  • @Scoonertuna Richard had no power to choose the leader. Maybe it was some time fuck thing where John felt connected to the knife today as he would be in the future and the past but I don't know why that would disturb Richard so much.

  • @SPFrobber You're right. Richard did not have the power to choose who the next leader was going to be, but he was searching for the next leader. As for the knife perhaps, this is just a theory, the knife represented violence. Throughout the series the Others have always said they were peaceful and only attacked if they were threatened and when Locke picked the knife it could have meant more violence would follow. I agree with you though: Locke picked the knife because he liked knives.

  • creepy tht locke drew a picture of smoke monster(m.i.b.) maybe tht was a clue tht he would soon be the smoke monster.

  • he came to see me when i was a kid once and last week he interviewed me for a job...lol

  • This chapter explains what does the word "special" means. When someone is special, that person knows and does stuff that has never experienced. Richard made the "reminiscente test" to prove if John Locke was "special", since John Locke gave him the compas in 1954, then at 1961 approx., 5 five years after the birth of John Locke, Richard makes the test, to prove if John knows already that the compas is his, that's why he is angry when he doesn't chose the compas.

  • Richard doesn't age does he? I've only just finished season 4 and I'm wondering why Richard never ages.

  • @Scoonertuna you'll see that in the S06E09..

  • @carnage163 Cool! Thanks.

  • @Scoonertuna OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH Man!!!!! Ab Aeterno was so freakin awesome. Richard Alpert!!!!!!!! Oh man!!!!!!!!! You got fun in store when ya get there brotha.

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  • (continued)...................­......, but the reason that locke gave richard the compass is because in lockes time flash before the jughead one, richard gave him the compass and told locke that he had to die, but thats just because it was the time after MIB took over lockes body, and told richard to go talk to the flashing locke and give him the compass....WAhhhhh MIB was thinking waaayy ahead...

  • hmmm....wait....the only reason that richard comes to visit locke, is some years before this, locke visits the others in the camp, in jughead times, when grown up locke is traveling throught time with daniel, juliet, miles sawyer ect., and he told him to come visit him, in a couple of years when he's born, and gave him the compass...............

  • Thats not John Locke, that kid has got hair.

  • @mugubasher LOL!

  • Why was richard so angry?

  • @thebirdisblue Because what young Locko had chosen was not what Richard was expecting, like something positive. The knife meant something really bad about locke's future.

  • @phoenixmission Thanks, I'm a bit confused about why the knife was considered that bad though

  • That was it. The ultimate proof that John Locke was who he said he was. That he was from the present day.

  • Wow, listening to the music at 1:39 you can hear the beginnings of the menacing fLocke theme that came full throttle in the "Sundown" episode.

  • Hmmm six objects, perhaps different symbols of the Oceanic 6?

  • Oh oh oh! The magazine belongs to Walt. :)

  • Richard is hot!

  • what does the book say? good vs evil???

  • @PrayForThunder The Books title is "Book of Laws"

  • I think that during this final season, Richard Alpert has become my favorite Lost character (beating out Ben Linus). They couldn't have found a better actor to fit as Richard than Nestor Carbonell. I love this scene and it's one of my most favorite episodes of the series.

  • No guys! It's sand from the island!!!!

  • Could the ash be somehow Jacob's ashes or the previous Jacob-guys?

  • For a second I thought the vile of ash or white stuff was the medicine he got from the doctor he accidentally killed (for Isabella). I just checked, it's not.

  • I thought that too. The bottle is a different shape isn't it? And the bottle Richard gives him look like sand or something

  • i understand this more. Locke gave the compass to Richard in 1954, as a grown man. That was the same year he was born. And now Richard brings the compass back to locke 3 years later, and asks him if it is his.

  • @mutti786 John was born in 1956 according to what he told Richard in 1954 when he walked into their camp.

  • @mutti786

    oh! When Locke doesn't recognize the compass, thats when he knows the Person(locke) who gave the compass wasn't really locke.

  • @FreshAnimeEpisodes

    But it was really Locke.

  • @FreshAnimeEpisodes u are so smart

  • @mutti786 - No, he was born in 1956, two years later. He said so himself right after giving Richard the compass and asking him what year it was.

  • @mutti786 - It is more like seven years later (Locke was born in 1956, and this is 1961), but point taken. ;)

  • chilling how you can hear hints of the Smoke Monster's theme in the background of this scene

  • I believe that Richard came to see if John was the one to g with Jacob and help him or go with the bad side with Jacob's brother and kill Jacob. That's why Richard put some good things on that table and some bad things. He understood that he would be evil in the future not only when John chose the bad things on the table but also when he saw that he drew a painting of a monster attacking a man and in that case the monster was the Black Smoke on the island and the man was Jacob

  • the man wasn't jacob, it was locke himself

  • Locke hasn't become evil he's dead and the smoke monster is using his shape.

  • @jdizzel1992

    That's debatable. Flocke has given us considerable reason to wonder whether there's still something of John Locke alive within him somehow. An earlier example would be when shouted "Don't tell me what I can't do!" at the mysterious jungle-boy who told him he'd broken the "rules".

    More recently there's his chat with Kate to consider- the one that was initially about Claire and Aaron before switching to the subject of his/ LOCKE'S own childhood and "crazy mother" in comparison.

  • Some people don't get this show at all lol.

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  • catch the name of his sister?

  • God little Locke was cute!

  • The little bottle of something that looks like sand, looks like the remain of Jacob after Locke throwed him into the fire in Season 5.

  • white ash-symbolizing choosing a light side, the good, the side of jacob. The compass being the one locke gave to richard when he time traveled. He should have chosen the book of laws, instead he chose the knife, which symbolizes war/evil, the side of the man in black. The knife is similar to the one Ben used to stab jacob with.

  • Yeah! Didn´t think about that with the knife and the compass! Good observation!

    Richard probably think something good about the compass, (don´t know what) and then the aches that John kind of choose to be on the light side, Jacobs side.

    But then the knife, Richard might realise that John is going to kill Jacob, and then gets upset and says that he is not ready to go to that school.(Wich I think is the island)

  • bout how old do you think Locke is here?

  • My guess is the reason John Locke picked the knife was because just like the drawings of the black smoke, he's sees himself in the future(foresight), on the island, with that knife. And he will use it to kill the nemesis. That is why Richard Apert could not understand why he picked the knife, because he's Richard Alpert in the 50's.

  • @gottu4

    Dont over think it. He just picked the knife because he was ten years old and thought it was cool.

    He should have picked the compass because he gave that compass to Richard when he was flashing through time.

  • @automaticSOM I think Locke was supposed to pick three items because Richard said, "Which of these items belong to you already." The items Locke should have picked were the Compass, The Sand and The Book of Laws. When Lock picks the sand and the compass notice Richard smirks, but when he grabs the Knife Richard becomes disappointed.

    The test is similar to the test they give to the Dahlia Lama.

  • @Scoonertuna

    But where does either the sand or the book of laws fit into that particular storyline?

  • @automaticSOM The sand is from the island's beach and the Book Of Law represents the Laws the island has. Remember in the series, I forget which episode, Benjamin has to leave the island because he broke the laws? A Leader must abide by the laws of the island and guide his followers to safety.

    This is all a theory of course.

  • @automaticSOM

    Exactly!

  • @automaticSOM you also have to remeber his later obession over knifes....cause that is what i would call it.

  • @automaticSOM he looks about 5 to me.

  • @gottu4 Locke is dead. How can Locke kill the nemesis if he's dead and the nemesis has taken Locke's form?

  • @bubbah Go back and watch "The life and death of Jeremy Bentham" There is a scene that gives a clue of John Locke alive and on the island wearing the suit. Now the word "SUIT" should give you a hint.

  • Richard was told by the MIB (through fake locke) that john was special...so Locke was never truly the leader.

  • all the people on the island are either jacobs children or samuel's children. Samuel is the man in black.

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  • I was thinking, wasn't Locke supposed to chose the compass since Richard gave him that in Season 5 when Locke was moving through time and Richard asked him to give it to himself in the 1950's when they met.

  • the knife is not the same knife Ben used to kill Jacob

  • I know why John Locke failed the Test. The kniffe does not belong to him, Richard was right, it belongs to the man in black, Jacob's nemesis, who inhabitate John!

  • @ishou88 Nope. He should have picked the compass. MiB hadn't taken over Locke's body yet

  • @ishou88 how do you know the knife belonged to MIB...

  • When a Dalai Lama dies, they believe his soul wanders around till he finds a pregnant mother and enters her womb and becomes the baby. When a couple of years pass, the Dalai Lama's closest friends take some of his stuff and go around house to house to look for children. If a house has a child in the home, they give the child a few of the Dalai lama's things and a few that aren't his. If the child picks the Dalai lama's thingshis friends assume that the kid is the reincarnation of the Dalai lama.

  • Locke pics three items that belong to him. he picks the sand, which he moves in front of him, the compass. and the knife.

  • I wonder what theory was Richard relying on at this time to test young Locke. He doesn't seem to know about time travel because he didn't believe the old Locke's story about how he knew him. Well even if he did how come he thinks young Locke will know something that hasn't even happened yet.

  • Holy shit I just got it! Richard wanted Locke to choose the compass. Because the compass already belonged to him. Locke gave Richard the compass in the army tent in the 50's, that's when he told him to go visit him when he's born.

  • actually he knows that the knife is his and you will see.

  • I'da slapped the cunt if she hit my backgammon board.

  • My theory is that Kacob has already been kiiled and everything we already seen has already happened and they survivior were chosen to go back an undo the killingof Jacob..I also think thats a picture on the wall of jacob b4 he gets kicked into the fire by locke,thats why when he chooses the knife Richard looks at the picture on the wall with disgust

  • @lilrdog I thought it was pretty clear that the picture is the smoke monster attacking someone. And considering what we now know happened to Locke, it makes perfect sense...

  • he's not wearing eyeliner or any eye makeup. that's how dark is eyes naturally are.

  • lock choose business because its full of back stabbers

  • I have a theory:

    I reckon Richard actually wanted John to pick the compass (note his smile at 2:55), the vial (2:45) and the book of laws (3:01).

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  • does any one know what is the name of this soundtrack ?its beautiful

  • Locke choise the knife because maybe he is a hunter?

  • @KitiLoda I thought that too...

  • Does anybody know if that knife the young john Locke picked is the same knife he gave Ben to stab Jacob with?

  • @jennyandgeorgina Ooooooooooooooo..... now I have to know!!

  • "Yes, I know him... and if I were you, I wouldn't give up on him." - Jack talking to Richard about Locke

    John Locke rules, I haven't given up on him!

  • mrangle, don't like locke much? or are you just accustomed to calling people bitches, including children?

  • locke tells richard to go visit little locke

  • that test he gives lock is a ---- Tulku Lama----

    "a number of objects such as rosaries, ritualistic implements, books, tea-cups, etc., are placed together, and the child must pick out those which belonged to the late tulku, thus showing that he recognizes the things which were theirs in their previous life."

  • Darkwolfproduction wrote:

    "that test he gives lock is a ---- Tulku Lama---"

    What interests me even more about the test are the objects Richard placed in front of young Locke. The comic book to represent a belonging of Hurley, the mitt representing an item of Jack's as a kid, "the book of law" representing a belonging of Sayid, etc.

    I also wonder if Locke DID have knives with him on the island as an adult later, why the reaction from Richard?

  • idk, but he failed the test. in the episode richard tells jack that he's been to see locke a couple times and he's nothing important.

  • @Darkwolfproduction right and i believe hte previous life of locke was jacob's enemy from the beach. So what item was he supposed to pick? do you know? lol

  • @Topazeyesdazzleme i guess will find out this season. who knows, i think he guessed the right one, lock is the hunter afterall.

  • @Darkwolfproduction No, he didn't pick the right one. Go watch season 5. Locke gives Richard the compass in the 1950s - therefore, it belongs to Locke - and then in the 1970s Richard says that he has been to visit Locke-the-child "off island" several times.

  • @Topazeyesdazzleme book of laws.

  • @Topazeyesdazzleme He was supposed to pick the compass, since Locke was the one who gave

    richard the compass.

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  • I think the drawing is from a dream which predicts his death and the monster taking his place (if that is really what happened).

  • locke drawing the monster? that makes me think jabob's rival was manipulating him since he was born

  • clse5d2 - I read your comment and realized you're right. Then my nose started bleeding.

    Urrrgh.

  • well most people wonder when Locke lands on the island that it's Aj being able to 'pretend' to be Locke. Since no one knew him it would be easy to be somebody new.

  • Can someone tell me what the drawing is all about? I'm watching season 5 now, so if i'll find out in season 5, don't tell me. But if it's not, what's the drawing all about?

  • I think it's the episode when the smoke monster attacks John.

  • that's episode 4X11 cabin fever

    how you craps not remember that?

  • It's the monster. But hey. It hasn't been explained why kid Locke drew it. Hopefully it'll become more clear in season 6.

  • I've watched all episodes, and I don't think that there's a definitive answer yet.

  • & again, here goes the whole white-black-red dilemma (=

  • it should have been the compass

  • Alpert is, to me, the most interesting character on "Lost". A theory of mine is that he came on the Black Rock and then become a lifetime guard (somewhat) to Jacob. The only reason I believe he let the fake-Locke go into the "foot" (aside from not knowing he was a fake), is because Jack told him not to give up on Locke, which seemed like an odd scene until I connected the meaning to it.

  • I think the same

  • Locke's sister is a bitch.

  • I bet in season 6 there will be an episode nothing but richard.