A beautiful barren landscape of which i have just spent 15 days on. I'm proud that it's a British colony and i really do hope it stays that way. To all the soldiers on both sides that lost their lives on the harshness of Mount Longdon and Wireless Ridge and the other battles, not forgetting all the naval tragedies that we suffered, you will now always be a part of my thoughts.We need to teach our children about the islands as there isn't enough awareness anymore and that is sad.
@lilgreenfingerpuppet Unfortunately people care about the Falklands about as much now as they did in 1982. A few tiny islands 8000 miles away that really doesnt bother most people.
How you guys took Mt. Longdon , I'll never understand. It looks so much like Mother Nature's answer to WWII 's Monte Cassino it's bloody insane. There is absolutely no approach to it. My hat's off to you lot.
@DPT47 Hey my Friend!!!. Forget about impolitenes in youtube, it's almost a cliché (which is a disgrace). Nice to have you back here!!!.
In regard to RI7 is Regimiento de Infanteria Mecanizada 7, located 1 hour from my home. That unit was in Longdon and Wireless Ridge, defending Stanley from west, the front line of the defensive device. It's just an armoured infantry conscripts unit, which was sent to Malvinas without the M113 armoured vehicles. In Longdon one of RIM7 Coy was deployed.
the Malvinas aren't a nation and have no right to self-determination; should Muslim areas of Bradford be allowed to join Pakistan if they wish? The Malvinas were seized by force by Britain in 1833 and the colonists who live there have no right whatsover to 'opt out' of Argentinian jurisdiction. The UK's stance is hypocritical when you consider the population of Diego Garcia, who were forcibly deported from the island by the British government. Not much respect for self determination there!
Sickening to think youngsters today are being taught Britain established a blockade and staged an amphibious landing, helping to secure Maragaret Thatcher [Jesuit Temporal Coadjutor] a second term. It wasn't that simple. Has anybody else noticed our foreign policy is perpetual war...
@Arminevh Armi, this is a special video, not for argument or discussion. I can't remember what the highest military award is in Argentina, but the Victoria Cross is our highest honour. I think someone called Estaban? received yours & another. All recipients are obviously deserving of the award as they don't come cheaply. RIP to all the fallen on both sides.
Yeah the Falklands war was pretty brutal stuff and consisted mainly of man vs man. Around 25 Argies did on the bayonet and a commander in the Scots Guards actually broke his into two pieces on thrusting an Argie soldier with it. The next time we were to see something like that occured in Basra when around 20 UK troops were cornered and had to result to the bayonet due to low ammo. Google British bayonet charge Basra.The bayonet has the fear factor which is why commonwealth armies still use it.
Yeah as an Englishman I have to say the Jocks are crazy mothers and make good allies. It was a Scottish regiment who bayonetted about 25 insurgents in Iraq. Allot of the SAS are made up from the Jocks too :)
UK ans USA will hopefully be allies for a long time to come. Due to the rise of th East we will need each other even more in the future and we feed off of one another.....
@29Gixxer Hmm I'm not surprised it has the fear factor, it must be a very painful way to leave the planet. I can't imagine hearing a more frightening order than "fix bayonets". I guess you know then that's it's going to get tough. Thankfully I haven't been in that position, but I guess in kill or be killed situations it could come from anywhere from kidneys to eyes. Brave, brave men on both sides. I still can't understand how our troops managed it, the job done was truly miraculous.
@dave Yeah it's the fear factor of hearing them being plugged which has the real effect and this is why UK and Commonwealth troops are not phasing the bayonet out like the USA is doing (bad choice in my opinion). I too have never been in that situation but it's a trick of the mind. In the Army we would just be told to think about our family, friends, gf's etc being brutalized and that's enough to stir most men up. I am glad to say our forces have not lost this philosophy over the years.
And yes...this is why we shoudl respect the Argies who served. There's many Argie/Brit trolls on YT although Ithink most of us have a respect for both sides. The Argies actually have a long and friendly history with us. They watch our TV and we even gave them a mini Big Ben for their birthday but that war has soured relations I'm afraid.
@davetowers1 The order "Fix bayonets" sent shivers down our spines let alone the Argentine soldiers. On Mount Longdon we ran short of ammunition and in the bowl resorted to hand to hand with the bayonet. Its a kill or be kille situation and the brain just focusses on one thing staying alive at all costs.
@jonrobbinson Shivers down your spines, I can't think of a worse order to hear in battle. I'd probably freeze for a short period. I seem to remember you were up against BIM5 or BIM7 3 coy amongst others. Much has been made by Argentina about them being conscripts. But those had up to a years commando training. It's no wonder you say they fought with "balls & valour" maybe some Paras hadn't had that length of time to train. I struggle to understand how you as a team did it given the odds.
@davetowers1 We were extremely fit well organised had great leadership and had balls. Not many conscripts on Longdon it was pure hell although for me the shelling afterwards was more scary.
@jonrobbinson It was still a hell of an ask that the whole Task Force delivered IMHO. That war looking at the odds stacked up we shouldn't really have been able to win. It was an achievement in my view along the likes of Rourkes Drift. Incredible, & won very quickly too. As you said, survival instinct kicked in, I guess the level of concentration was intense, well as intense as it gets. Well done mate & all the Task Force, Galtieri can rot for putting you though it, though not the AR soldiers.
@jonrobbinson There's a video here on YT which is about a bloke called Sergio Delgado's return to the islands. He was on Longdon & from where he said his position was maybe manned a machine gun post. He described a member of 3 Para who was lying face up still sort of standing against the rocks. That may have been this brave man I don't know. He got injured in his legs & a member of 3 Para gun still in hand picked him up by his belt, took a look & got one our nurses to help...speaks volumes
@davetowers1 - you are talking about the documentary 'No tan nuestras' On YT it is in 7 epizodes. The part about Mt. Longdon starts in episode 4 watch?v=az9x4OeEJxs . My Spanish is not good enough to understand everything, but more or less I understand. The same story is also mentioned in the movie 'Return to the Falklands" where Sergio visits Mt. Longdon.
@OlenkaWagner Yes I remember his comments on the plane from BA. I also saw the tears in his eyes as he sighted the islands for the first time since 1982. This is what I don't seem to be able to get through to some of the British keyboard warriors. They were normal people too, with feelings & sent out to do a job. They get nothing but respect here as Bob won't have it any other way & he's right. I can't help feeling the person he's describing is this man.Sergio was obviously manning a machine gun
@jonrobbinson Jon I'm "speaking" to another person on another vid. Were 3 battle group seconded to 2 & 3 Para during this conflict? He's saying he was an observer behind enemy lines. Maybe Bob can answer this too.
@davetowers1 If you are doubting my authenticity as a Falklands Vet, then that's fine, I won't lose any sleep over that. But if you're going to bring another Vet into it, how about asking the question correctly fella! 1. Yes, I was a Spotter for 29 Commando (NOT Royal Marines, we're Army, not ALL Commando is Marine). Now the question, 2 and 3 Para were SECONDED to 3 Battle Group, NOT the other way around.
@4GREENJACKET Ok I've already apologised for my mistake, as I said I don't know much about the operational side of the armed forces & don't know what a "battle group is". What I do know is this video is to pay respect to a very brave man & shouldn't be used as a point of argument. I don't doubt your authenticity as a vet of that war at all, if I gave that impression then again I apologise.
@4GREENJACKET There's an Argentinian vet on this video who's also my friend. He makes more sensible comments than many. He reckons soldiers in all wars fight for peace, I think he's 100% right. The people who gave their lives, if they're able to see what's happening, if they can see they made a difference, surely that maybe of some comfort. The "difference" though must be peace. That's what soldiers fight for..peace
@davetowers1 - well, I don't particularly like the term "fight for peace" - it was too often used for propaganda purposes. Maybe "reconciliation" would sound better? I am not against the idea of peace, I just don't like expression "fight for peace".
@davetowers1 Hi mate, I hope you're OK!. In regard to BIM5, it was front line on west/south once Longdon was lost by our RIM7 (the same RIM7 unit has to defend Wireless Ridge as well). I don't remember having seen, read or talk with Paras that had to fight against our BIM5 since the unit had to defend Williams, Tumbledown and Supper Hill. BIM5 was attacked by Scots Guards, the remaining men of Welsh Guards, Gurkhas on Williams, and some Blue and Royals armoured units.
@davetowers1 BIM5 was a conscrpt unit, as all sent to war, not taking into account special forces, of course. It was the typical conscript unit we used to have those times, but the training was correct enough for a decent fight, and the equipment and supplies were good set up for a cold and wet war like that due to it was a south marine unit. Cpt. Robacio, our commander, was a brave and competent chief as well.
There was only 1 conscript unit trained in commando style: RIE25.
Eddie: Where is the Falkland Islands located? In Europe? Or in south America? Britain existed before Argentina because Argentina is part of the new World that Colombus discovered but that does not make it British because they took the land while it was still isolate , the islands are close to Argentina not in Europe that was the closest to a country established in South America.
@veritas700 - your ancestors came from Europe, but you live in US and now US is your home and you have right to decide about the future of your country. The ancestors of the Falklanders came from Britain (mainly, but not exclusively). They live in the Falkland Islands and they have right to decide anbout the future of their homeland, regardless why and from where and for what purpose their ancestors arrived.
I am also not trying to insult your knowledge but I stick with facts, my ancestors came from Europe and I know as an American who I am and what belongs to the Americans and what our ancestors did to take lands that did not belong to them, I know what was taken from the natives and much more not just in one country I studied this but in a few growing up as a child diplomat
You can check the history yourself in books or online. By the way if you travel to South America, Italy, Portugal and Spain. America is ONE not as USA considers it to be North America one continent and another South America jujst for your information just in case as well because most people ignore what the orgianal countries consider to be America.
@veritas700 - Things are more complicated than that. Geographic proximity is not everything. Argentina gives the argument about the succession from Spain, but Britain has the argument that the residents want the British sovereignty, not Argentinian one. Anyway, I think, by using military force in 1982, Argentina actually weakened their arguments rather than strenghtened them.
@Hoplite87 Nice thing to say mate. To explain - this is a tribute video to a soldier who was awarded our highest military honour the Victoria Cross. They're not given out lightly, only to people who put the lives of their comrades above their own when in battle. Unfortunately almost all recipients are dead. I guess in AR you have an equivalent?
@davetowers1 Well I've been searching for that, so far i can tell for the war in 1982 there was a specific distintion by the decree of the law 22.607 (1998) witch codecorates with vetereans the Cross "La Nación Argentina al Heroico Valor en Combate", thats the highest ranking. For example Estevez and Giachino recived them. Now surely there must be as well a military recognition pre existant to the war...
I was at the Cementery in the Shot,Sgt Mckay's resting place is in much need of some attention totally bare,only Private Burt seem's to get an regular visit,please lad's try and take the time...
Bob: at 1:55 I see a pic that seems to be Darwin Argentinian Cementery., I'm OK? I cannot se it clearly.... If what I see the are english warriors taking a picture in front of "our2 cementery, I suppose it's a kind of reverence and respect to your former adversaries, and not a party meaning: "well, see there: We're here, the winners, while what you see behind us is the men we killed. I'm sure it's the 1st option, a gentlemen respect behaviour, not a unatural and disregard act, am I wrong?
@lucianoestivill The photos were just taken as was. There was no motive or reason behind them. Many of the photos were taken on the Falklands just as momentos or as a picture history of the islands and time spent on the islands.
@bobgladstone Your answer infact reinforces what I believed before your response: nothing to do with a "we're here the winners, while what you see behind us are the men we killed" but on the contrary, a kind act. There wouldn't be another explanation why english soldiers waste time going there to take "disregarding pics". On the contrary, they went to our cementry, which I consider a very respectful act, and took a pic in the same place their ex opponents lay. A nice attitude, to say the least.
Bob your answer infact reinforces what I believed before your response: nothing to do with a "we're here the winners, while what you see behind us are the men we killed" but on the contrary, a kind act. There wouldn't be another explanation why english soldiers waste time going there to take "disregarding pics". On the contrary, they went to our cementry, which I consider a very respectful act, and took a pic in the same place their ex opponents lay. A nice attitude, to say the least.
Bob your answer infact reinforces what I believed before your response: nothing to do with a "we're here the winners, while what you see behind us are the men we killed" but on the contrary, a kind act. There wouldn't be another explanation why english soldiers waste time going there to take "disregarding pics". On the contrary, they went to our cementry, which I consider a very respectful act, and took a pic in the same place their ex opponents lay. A nice attitude, to say the least.
@lucianoestivill I agree mate, I think i've said before you'll not find a British veteran of 1982 that doesn't have ultimate respect for AR forces. I don't think there's anything but regret for what happened & as you rightly say, there's no point in going there to gloat. It seems as if it opens old wounds for some, and buries demons for others. I'm no soldier & can't know properly.
@1994england Why not. Ian would have wanted his wife to not live a life of poverty and selling his VC helped her financially. She would not have done this out of disrespect only to ensure herslf and her family could live life comfortably.
@bobgladstone sad reflection on present day Britain i think,we find millions to support other countries,and our vets and their families struggle..charity begins at home.....
@rusoargento1 I'm not discussing the "ownership" of Malvinas, which I believe They belong to us. I was just trying to share my concern and I'm showing honour to an English soldier, a human being like you and me. This is the point of this video is about: honour and respect. British people and We the Argentinian people can discuss about Malvinas and what country do They belong to, but as far as I know this video is about a soldier: warriors are warriors and DO NOT have nationality..... Peace all.
@lucianoestivill Yes mate, you've learnt the hard way I know. You're right it's without nationality that we need to move forward. This video is a tribute to a very brave man, Bob thinks that without his efforts more lives would have been lost. It's good to type. We all need to learn the futility of war as in the end it solves nothing. Just causes resentment, loss of life & the consequences of being in battle, which I've learnt from others are hard to deal with. You're right Peace!
@davetowers1 Correct Dave Ians quick thinking and courage in the heat of battle without doubt saved many lives. We were pinned down in particular by 50mm causing havoc and Ians actions deserved his V.C
@jonrobbinson Jon are you going to go this year back to the islands? I think 3 Para veterans from that time plan a visit, it may bury a few ghosts mate. Just a thought
@bobgladstone Hmm bob He has the ultimate respect for all. I know Ian Scrivens was his mate who at the early age of 23 died - that's shit to cope with. He's commenting about Corporal Stewart Mac who he regards in the ultimo too. I know Jon suffers badly too this day & anything that can help? I've admiration for all
@kpconnery 17? no-one deserves that. What must his parents have felt?. I'm a dad of 5, well in the last week become a grandad too. There are some things that leave me speechless & that's one. I'll type about this later when I get my head around that.
@bobgladstone No Bob as you well know returning to those islands was a nightmare for me and only demonstrated to em the futilty of the war a stupid loss of life for both sides and a loss of many of my friends.
At the time I was hardened to it after all I joined the Paras to fight and did so and then went on to join the FFL and work in Private security for almost 25 years but the thought of Mount Longdon will haunt me for all of my days
@jonrobbinson Yea Jon, I don't know if I've mentioned this before, but let's suppose politicians who sent people into battle had to fight the front line themselves, or send their children. I don't think there'd be anymore wars. They just don't care or understand the consequences. The parents of the fallen in 1982 will still be suffering today, as will the children of some.
@davetowers1 Yes conflicts throughout the world and mans inability to live in peace although for many years I travelled the world looking to fight and kill so its not always politicians at fault
@jonrobbinson Yea but Jon I blame the politicians for your want or need to travel the world & fight or kill. I'll reiterate if the politicians that sent young people into battle had to fight the front line themselves. There would be no more wars. It's easy to live in peace, just say nice things & wish no-one harm mate. Easy for me to say, I guess harder for people at the sharp end.
@davetowers1 Yes Dave have been back to the Islands and for me it didnt help much other than engrain my hatred for Thatcher and her governement. It opened old wounds and made me decide that combat was really what I wanted to do, which I have until a year ago been doing but have decided to hang up my boots and return to civvy street.
@jonrobbinson That's a shame Jon. I reckon that any politician that sends someone into a war zone should fight the front line themselves - or send their sons. There'd then be no more wars. Glad you decided to hang up your boots though, you've a good chance of settling down and becoming an old man - like me. I turned 52 this month.
@davetowers1 Yeah getting blown up kinda made my mind up luckily minor injuries but decided getting too old and the odds were begining to stack up against me and it would be nice to reach old age
@davetowers1 - Well, I don't think there will be no more wars if politician had to fight themselves - in the Middle Ages they did and wars were quite common. The only difference would be that different people would be elected - fitter and trained in fighting.
@OlenkaWagner Hmm an interesting view. The middle ages were quite different though. I couldn't imagine Margaret Thatcher or her son fighting like Jon did. I couldn't either see Galtieri or his junta doing so either & that was a military led leadership. I could neither imagine Hitler or Stalin on the front line at the time of their leadership. Just a thought
@jonrobbinson Hmm I guess you must have tabbed back to Longdon. I'd hoped it would lay things to rest for you. Obviously not, it's too deeply in your system. I can understand that after what you went through. I've been typing to someone here who's screenname is KPConnelly, do you know him?
@jonrobbinson Yea that's what for me makes it so stupid. Back then we've discussed, all joined up for different reasons. There was the NI issue, but not many expected to go to war, just learn a trade. Then this. So many fallen & injured, I hope the Kelpers are grateful. Luciano here understands fully, I don't know if he was on mt Longdon, if he was you were probably trying to kill each other. He's polite & respectful though.
@davetowers1 Yes we did join up for differnet reasons I was laways in trouble always loved to fight loved the paras and wanted to fight and must admit the bloodbath suited me but not others although mentally scarred me for life and something i always bottled up inside.
yes Scrivs was one of my best mates and to die so young was a real injustice and as for Corporal scouse Mac best soldier and leader i ever served under and the only one harder than me lol
@jonrobbinson Yes mate Scrivs was exactly what he said. It's only I don't think the bloodbath did suit you. I think he was only 17? hardly a life really. An 'effin shame, he may have been a grand parent by now - god!. As for Stewart Mac, I just don't & can't have an answer.
-Dave and John: nope bros, I was not there in Longdon. In Longdon was RIM7 (from Buenos Aires, La Plata City). RIM7 had 3 Coy and had to defend Longdon/Wireless Ridge line.
-BIM5 (from Tierra del Fuego, Rio Grande City), also with 3 Coys, was behind the line of Wireless Ridge, Longdon, Two Sisters, Harriet. BIM5 had to defend Williams, Goat Ridge, Tumbledown, Supper Hill line, plus covering/counterstriking any hole/gap on the route to Stanley.
@kpconnery It seems that for some it buries the ghosts or re-ignites old wounds. We're all different. Jon said it was a nightmare for him, it's a shame. Are you going back there this year, someone told me that 3 Para veterans of 1982 are planning a visit. The weather there is poor at the moment so I guess it can't have passed.
@lucianoestivill Mate, why can't you change your pattern of thought. They belong to the islanders, They're British sovereign territory at the moment, if you want that to change, then you'll need to seduce the minds of the islanders, it's their choice. It's the only way forward. No more war. I've heard too much about battle & know it's not the way to go.
@davetowers1 You know brother, it's very difficult to me not to thinking Malvinas is part of my territory. England used to be a nation that was used to conqueer territories as it wanted in the name of the Queen, the King or whatever other resourse available. Argentina is the opposite: we liberated ourselves from being part of an Empire (Spaniard Empire), another Empire like British Empire. So for me, they are part of Argentina and even we had a garrison there in XIX....
@lucianoestivill To be honest mate I no longer care. My heart goes out to the fallen & the suffering, but I've made so many AR friends though these videos, it no longer seems relevant. If I could help I would, but can't in any way. I don't want to seem disrespectful to any soldier there, but what happened has made me able to make AR friends. Hope that makes sense
@davetowers1 You can firmly believe Falklands is part of UK, and I'm 180 degrees about it but, does it means anything really relevant??? Not at all... You know, I was "accused" by some argentinian ex military men (just noob gansters in green uniforms, not true "soldiers"), I recieved menaces, and as I told you privately, I was ambushed and tried to be encircled by 5 guys. Poor boys: they got what they deserved: some Aikido and all over. Why? Because I consider you all as Friends, not "Enemies"!
@lucianoestivill There's nothing relevant mate. It's difficult for me to comment on that issue as it would betray all that died there, plus the ones that still suffer. I don't think with hindsight any of our soldiers wanted to go to war, they were doing a job. I consider you as a friend too, you're polite & respectful & that's good enough for me.
@davetowers1 and @lucianoestivill - I think it is not unusual that different nations have different visions of history and historic events/figures etc. This is unavoidable. Every nation will have their own vision of history. Of course facts should be the same, but their interpretation and assessment would be different.
@OlenkaWagner It's always going to be that way mate. Eddie though has pointed out a UN resolution that makes historical facts irrelevant. The islands are for whatever the islanders want. I've said for many months that if AR want to move forward they'll need to seduce the minds of the islanders. Using force like in 1982 & locking them in a shed won't do that.
@davetowers1 - I think in this particular case there would be several separate questions: 1) assessment of historical events in 1833 and earlier - here I think there will always be a disagreement 2) assessment of the decision of the invasion in 1982 - as right (re-taking) or wrong, but could be for many different reasons: morally wrong (because the islands belong to UK or because the use of military force was wrong, even if the cause was right)? Or just diplomatically wrong? TBC...
@OlenkaWagner Yes mate, but the UN resolution Eddie posted on Sonnys video makes any historical facts irrelevant. They've ruled that a peaceful solution should be reached & that the islanders wishes are paramount. Invasion is hardly peaceful. I think AR should have realised that in 1982 with UN resolution 501.
@davetowers1 - Yes, I agree. Historical facts are different and present situation is different. Of course if one accepts that historical facts are in favour of Britain - one also accepts present British sovereignty. But even if one thinks historical facts favour Argentina it is still possible to accept the British sovereignty because of the facts you mentioned (the will of inhabitants mainly).
@OlenkaWagner Any thoughts of future war about this need putting in the bin. UNASUR is at the moment in it's infancy, but it won't be forever probably. The UK now has the while of Europes resources on it's side. It doesn't bear thinking about. I don't want another drop of blood spilt over two windswept islands. This video is about a very brave man, it cost him his life & that's too high a price.
cont.... 3) Situation at present - what should be done in the present situation facing the reality as it is? Here I can imagine the common solution is possible, although difficult to achieve. Historical arguments can be assessed differently, but present reality is as it is. The facts are: 1. the residents want the British administration, 2. Britain is capable of defending the islands in case of the invasion, 3. Argentina has the possession of islands written into constitution....
... which makes it difficult to give up the claims 4. Argentina rejects any military solution. All these factors show that we are unlikely to see any changes whether positive like reaching any final agreement or negative like a new conflict. So one can be either unhappy for the lack of perspective for any final agreement or happy because there will be no new conflict.
@OlenkaWagner It's not now just Britain, since the EU charter was signed it's the whole of Europe. Any future task force may be enormous. AR point at something & declare it theirs, they write their own constitution but no-one needs to recognise it. The propaganda machine then kicks in. I've become friends with some very nice Argentinians through these videos, & with you and I'm very grateful for that.
@davetowers1 - Yes, I agree. EU members have to back fellow EU members. Of course a constutution does not have any power outside a country, I wanted just to show how difficult it would be for any (hypothetic) Argentine politician to give up the claims to the islands, even for economic benefits for the country. Of course there were cases in history of the recognition of new borders, but he process was always painful.
@OlenkaWagner Well producing a propaganda leaflet in 2007 didn't help. If AR leaders just didn't speak about it the issue would eventually go away. The drilling for oil hasn't helped either. Argentina is a very rich country in terms of resources. It has uranium & all sorts of minerals. If they concentrated on developing, they'd be far better off IMHO
@OlenkaWagner I'll try & get a link. It was produced in the AR version of Spanish & English. It contained information designed probably to rabble rouse, but was inconsistent with the treaties, most of which I've read. Argentinians speak a sort of mixture of Italian & Spanish, If you type to Delfi she'll tell you. Sort of Birra instead of caña, jarra or cerveza which is beer
@lucianoestivill Well yes mate but there are more words. If I ask for a caña I get the same, a jarra & it's in a jug. My good friend - delfi, she lives in the belgrano area of BA has told me lots of things. I value people.
@davetowers1 I live in Villa del Parque, BA, and Belgrano is where I work, my mother too, just 20 minutes from home.... In Belgrano is Regimiento de Granaderos a Caballo, a Special Armoured Grenadier (very well equipped and super-trained unit, which purpose is, apart from defending our country, to protect the President. It's the unit that has to take care of our Presidents 24hs a day, 365 day per year...... So your Friend lives 20 minutes from home!!!!!
@lucianoestivill Yes mate, I'm friends with her on Facebook too. She's a very nice young woman with a very good sense of humour. She looks at things reasonably & rationally & like you is always polite & respectful. She get's upset when people insult her, or even worse when idiots type about nuking BA. I could never support that. That goes against for me everything this man died for.
@lucianoestivill If you go out into Belgrano you'll no doubt meet her, she's a bit of party, party, party. Thoroughly respectable though but has a good time - I can't fault that as long as she's safe. Is that unit on horseback or is it artillary?
Dave, Regimiento de Granaderos a Caballo is a Special Armoured Grenadier Unit which has home made TAM Tanks (105mm), VCTP Combat Infantry Armoured Vehicles (the same Marder German Army has, but we built them here), Armoured 120mm Mortar Vehicles, etc. Our Army has no more conscripts but only professional soldiers, and this Regiment is pretty good. By the way: for ceremonial issues, We have beautiful horses for parades, and that stuff.....
@lucianoestivill Yea I like to see the horses. They're a bit special really & act as cavalry I guess in times of need. 105mm? that's heavy duty stuff. It was just the name of the unit that led me to horses.
@lucianoestivill Well maybe next year we'll meet. Sometimes I have to travel to BA with work & maybe we can share a beer. There are a few more Argentinians I'd like to meet too. It's good to type! No karate though lol. I'm a teacher in one of those disciplines, just a beer, a shake of hands & some good conversation & love for fellow human beings. That's what life's about really mate
@davetowers1 Why not Dave? I have no chickenhouse at home, lol, so as you don't have to pay for an expensive hotel! LOLOLOL...... But it would be a fortunate honour and meaningful approach shaking hands, do a big hug or drinking a beer, a scotch whisky, (lol), and sharing cups of coffe and pleasant chats with a kind and good man.... And the same counts for Alex: come to Argentina from your homeland Poland Alex. Argentina is very large and beautiful! Both would enjoy it, I AM SURE!!!!! ;-)
@lucianoestivill Yea mate my good friend Delfi has shown me photos of Argentina, It has just about everything on offer. The scenery in the north is spectacular
@lucianoestivill - Thank you for the invitation. If you come to Poland you are also invited and Dave as well. There are many pubs in Krakow and a wide selection of beer (other alcoholic and non-alcoholic drinks as well) ;-). A friend of mine wants to go to Argentina in about two years or so. She wants to climb the moutains. I am not a climber, but if she finds some inexpensive flight connention... never knows....
@OlenkaWagner Thanks Aleksandra. I'd like to see Krakow, I've see your video about it & it looks great. Also thank you Bob for posting this video, I know we're off topic but through this we've made some friends. I reckon Ian if he could see would be proud. cheers
@lucianoestivill and @davetowers1 - talking about specific expressions... - in the link I sent you some there is a word "boludear" - from the contect I figured out it means "doing nothing special", but I might be wrong...
@OlenkaWagner I have never seen or heard that word before. As I said Argentinians speak a sort of hybrid of Spanish & Italian. I've many Spanish dictionaries & verb books & it's in none. I'll bet it's some sort of AR slang. Luciano may be able to tell you.
@OlenkaWagner rofl........... BOLUDEAR: depending on the situation, it can be understood as a big insult. For example: if you said someone "you're BOLUDEANDO", in this case this slang word can be taken as a disregarding way of saying "you're doing nothing special". BOLUDEAR, as Alex says, mean "doing nothing specially relevant". In fact, it's a slang disrespective way to say it, as if you say in english: "you're doing a futile, stupid or nonsense thing". You could get a punch as a response! LMAO
@lucianoestivill - so the conclusion is that I'd better NOT TO USE this word, at least not while describing the activities of a person I am talking to and not in formal situations ;)
@OlenkaWagner We use the word Alex, all days, but we do it with people who we know and have a relationship or friends, or fellows and mates, etc. Do not use it with someone who is an unknown person for you, but in the rest of the cases, you can use it and it's OK, it's often understood as a close friendly treatement in fact, but only in case the other person is related to you and has friendship. Otherwise, it would be a dangerous option!!!
@OlenkaWagner As for 1883, Argentinians are taught that the UK kicked them out when this isn't entirely true. There's quite a few of AR heritage still living there. According to the Nootka Sound Convention, which I've read, I think it was clause 6 stated that the UK were in order to make establishment if another power did. Spain then were far militarily inferior & had no choice but to sign. War is always bad news.
@davetowers1 - the disagreement should not refer to the facts. If the settlers were not expelled one cannot teach they were expelled. The difference in opinions can only refer to the interpretation of facts (for example the importance of certain facts, their legal or moral assessment etc.), but not to the facts.
@OlenkaWagner Well Aleksandra, some of them weren't to happy about the UK making establishment there (typing about 1833). Can't blame them as I guess lines of communication were scarce. The UK therefore kicked out the complainers & allowed the others to stay
@davetowers1 British Empire, after Spain was in trouble by 1806, due to Napoleón, blocked our ships to sail from Buenos Aires with the economical problem that it meant. Great Britain also wanted to take from Spain our territory. Fortunately, We defeated both British Empire invasions: 1806 (British took our main city, Buenos Aires, but we conqueared again), and 1807 (British invaded us again, tried to take Buenos Aires but were defeated). I consider Malvinas it's another part of our sovereignity.
@davetowers1 By the way dave: I saw a link here about "A New Bank Holiday V.C Day (Victoria Cross)" As this is a nice attitud for all people in UK involved in a war (soldiers, their families and friends), I signed in. It was a surprise to me that there are no people that want to sign or be part of it. It's a real pity, I'm sorry that both UK people or Argentina people simply don't care about it. Another reason why war is a DISGRACE...
@lucianoestivill I've signed up to Bobs campaign for a VC day. It's not a medal given lightly, only to people who put others lives first in battle. You've shown yourself to be a true gentleman IMHO. Take care mate
@lucianoestivill Bob's also posted a video about Col H.Jones VC who sadly died in the battle at Goose Green. You may find members of 2 Para there my friend.
@bobgladstone I know my Friend! But maybe here there's a 2 Para member here that took part on Goose Green fierce battle against one of RIE25 Coy. It's for me specially interesting Darwin Hill battle, having Jones and then Major Keeble as commander. For sure, at least one member of 2 Para must be reading this channel Bob. Maybe you know some of your comrades here who was there in Goose Green battle serving in 2 Para Batallion... THANKS ALL FOR ANY HELP IN REGARD TO THAT BATTLE!!!
Ohhh I forgot to say: all those people who do not respect the channels should, at least, identify themselves. Otherwise, We could be just in front of gangsters and ignorants, disrespective people, just coward spammers.....
Whatever is stated about Lucianostivill, he I think is entitled to his opinion. He's always polite and respectful. He's here to honour what the point of this video is about. I think if everyone else behaves in a similar manner we can perhaps have a good debate. There's no point in rudeness.
@davetowers1 ObertStainer, another PC"BattleField 1942" player. I AM NOT comunist or marxist as this kids can say. In fact, I am placed in the other side of the street Argentina's President is, but I WILL ALWAYS support and respect the Legal Institutions not for being obliged to, but due to I like it that way. As Argentinians Soldiers says in an act of reverence in front of our glorious Flag: "SUBORDINACIÓN Y VALOR PARA DEFENDER A LA PATRIA".
PS: I have no problem with comunists or whatever....
@lucianoestivill Mate I don't care if you're communist, marxist or a dentist, you're entitled to your opinion & profession. You're polite & here for the right reasons, that's good enough
HONESTLY Dave: I was "accused" of being Jewish (as if being Jewish was bad). But I'm Catholic. Anyway, What is the problem with a person for being Jewish? Is that bad? IT ISN'T. I was "accused" of being Comunist, WHICH I'M NOT. But I have no problem with Comunists. Why should I hate a man because his religion is not the same I follow?
I`m open minded enough to ALL religions, political toughts, sex, etc. In "The Art of Peace" (as TRUE WARRIORS SHOULD BE), there's no room for close minded clowns.
@lucianoestivill Their attitude just doesn't make sense to me. That war was now a long time ago, maybe the people who are saying these things lost someone close? Those sort of injuries don't heal, but a plaster can be put over them. They're trying to bully you into doing what they want, assuming their opinion is correct, when clearly you have your own mind.
@bobgladstone OHH Bob: I was also "accused" of not being "patriot" because I chat with an "enemy" (you!) and because a military men it is supposed that can not enjoy shareing a cup of coffe with an "enemy" (that "enemy" is you again....), and worse than that: have an English Para as a Friend (you!). It is supposed I should hate you, and your Paras fellows, and any British soldier. NONSENSE, just a disgraceful quote by men without values. It's a shame for me this people are argentinian like me.
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A beautiful barren landscape of which i have just spent 15 days on. I'm proud that it's a British colony and i really do hope it stays that way. To all the soldiers on both sides that lost their lives on the harshness of Mount Longdon and Wireless Ridge and the other battles, not forgetting all the naval tragedies that we suffered, you will now always be a part of my thoughts.We need to teach our children about the islands as there isn't enough awareness anymore and that is sad.
lilgreenfingerpuppet 1 month ago
@lilgreenfingerpuppet Unfortunately people care about the Falklands about as much now as they did in 1982. A few tiny islands 8000 miles away that really doesnt bother most people.
bobgladstone 1 month ago
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Be not bellbottom bummer or asshole
Remember the story of Pablo Picasso
He could walk down your street
And girls could not resist his stare
Pablo Picasso was never called an asshole
FreeSpeechSmuggler 2 months ago
How you guys took Mt. Longdon , I'll never understand. It looks so much like Mother Nature's answer to WWII 's Monte Cassino it's bloody insane. There is absolutely no approach to it. My hat's off to you lot.
pinz2022 1 year ago 9
@DPT47 Hey my Friend!!!. Forget about impolitenes in youtube, it's almost a cliché (which is a disgrace). Nice to have you back here!!!.
In regard to RI7 is Regimiento de Infanteria Mecanizada 7, located 1 hour from my home. That unit was in Longdon and Wireless Ridge, defending Stanley from west, the front line of the defensive device. It's just an armoured infantry conscripts unit, which was sent to Malvinas without the M113 armoured vehicles. In Longdon one of RIM7 Coy was deployed.
lucianoestivill 1 year ago
Upgrade the military or shut the fuck up. Amen.
aequatorisimperium 1 year ago
@kepuysac you've spelt malvinas wrong, it's F A L K L A N D S
ukelele13 1 year ago 13
@ukelele13 No, both of you spelt it wrong, it's MALOUINES. Get your facts straight.
SoyuzMoguchy 4 months ago
the Malvinas aren't a nation and have no right to self-determination; should Muslim areas of Bradford be allowed to join Pakistan if they wish? The Malvinas were seized by force by Britain in 1833 and the colonists who live there have no right whatsover to 'opt out' of Argentinian jurisdiction. The UK's stance is hypocritical when you consider the population of Diego Garcia, who were forcibly deported from the island by the British government. Not much respect for self determination there!
kepuysac 1 year ago
@kepuysac The UN says otherwise.
krackersdave 3 months ago 3
Sickening to think youngsters today are being taught Britain established a blockade and staged an amphibious landing, helping to secure Maragaret Thatcher [Jesuit Temporal Coadjutor] a second term. It wasn't that simple. Has anybody else noticed our foreign policy is perpetual war...
Islandretreat 1 year ago
RIP Sgt Ian McKay.
formeliandialogue 1 year ago 3
@Arminevh Armi, this is a special video, not for argument or discussion. I can't remember what the highest military award is in Argentina, but the Victoria Cross is our highest honour. I think someone called Estaban? received yours & another. All recipients are obviously deserving of the award as they don't come cheaply. RIP to all the fallen on both sides.
davetowers1 1 year ago
UK SOLDIERS NEVER BACK DOWN.!!!!
UK/USABOY.
jocksmen 1 year ago
Yeah the Falklands war was pretty brutal stuff and consisted mainly of man vs man. Around 25 Argies did on the bayonet and a commander in the Scots Guards actually broke his into two pieces on thrusting an Argie soldier with it. The next time we were to see something like that occured in Basra when around 20 UK troops were cornered and had to result to the bayonet due to low ammo. Google British bayonet charge Basra.The bayonet has the fear factor which is why commonwealth armies still use it.
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer thanks
I hope to re trace my steps
one day back in England
take care of yourself
UK/USABOY.
jocksmen 1 year ago
@jocksmen
Yeah as an Englishman I have to say the Jocks are crazy mothers and make good allies. It was a Scottish regiment who bayonetted about 25 insurgents in Iraq. Allot of the SAS are made up from the Jocks too :)
UK ans USA will hopefully be allies for a long time to come. Due to the rise of th East we will need each other even more in the future and we feed off of one another.....
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer YES I WAS ALWAYS CLOSE TO THE JOCKS
THANK GOD THERE IS NO GREY AREA WITH THEM
I MISS THEM ALL COMRADES WHO WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN
I ALSO THINK WE ARE GOING TO HAVE MORE SHIT HAPPEN OVER HERE
ON OUR OWN SOIL VERY SOON.
STAY SAFE BUDDY.
UK/USABOY.
jocksmen 1 year ago
@29Gixxer wWOW
THE JOCKS ALWAYS KNEW HOW TO
SORT THE SHIT OUT QUICK.!
GOD BLESS EM AND THANK GOD
I HAVE SOME JOCK BLOOD INSIDE
OF ME.!
UK/USABOY.
jocksmen 1 year ago
@29Gixxer Hmm I'm not surprised it has the fear factor, it must be a very painful way to leave the planet. I can't imagine hearing a more frightening order than "fix bayonets". I guess you know then that's it's going to get tough. Thankfully I haven't been in that position, but I guess in kill or be killed situations it could come from anywhere from kidneys to eyes. Brave, brave men on both sides. I still can't understand how our troops managed it, the job done was truly miraculous.
davetowers1 1 year ago
@dave Yeah it's the fear factor of hearing them being plugged which has the real effect and this is why UK and Commonwealth troops are not phasing the bayonet out like the USA is doing (bad choice in my opinion). I too have never been in that situation but it's a trick of the mind. In the Army we would just be told to think about our family, friends, gf's etc being brutalized and that's enough to stir most men up. I am glad to say our forces have not lost this philosophy over the years.
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@davetowers1
And yes...this is why we shoudl respect the Argies who served. There's many Argie/Brit trolls on YT although Ithink most of us have a respect for both sides. The Argies actually have a long and friendly history with us. They watch our TV and we even gave them a mini Big Ben for their birthday but that war has soured relations I'm afraid.
29Gixxer 1 year ago 2
@davetowers1 The order "Fix bayonets" sent shivers down our spines let alone the Argentine soldiers. On Mount Longdon we ran short of ammunition and in the bowl resorted to hand to hand with the bayonet. Its a kill or be kille situation and the brain just focusses on one thing staying alive at all costs.
jonrobbinson 1 year ago
@jonrobbinson Shivers down your spines, I can't think of a worse order to hear in battle. I'd probably freeze for a short period. I seem to remember you were up against BIM5 or BIM7 3 coy amongst others. Much has been made by Argentina about them being conscripts. But those had up to a years commando training. It's no wonder you say they fought with "balls & valour" maybe some Paras hadn't had that length of time to train. I struggle to understand how you as a team did it given the odds.
davetowers1 1 year ago
@davetowers1 We were extremely fit well organised had great leadership and had balls. Not many conscripts on Longdon it was pure hell although for me the shelling afterwards was more scary.
jonrobbinson 1 year ago
@jonrobbinson It was still a hell of an ask that the whole Task Force delivered IMHO. That war looking at the odds stacked up we shouldn't really have been able to win. It was an achievement in my view along the likes of Rourkes Drift. Incredible, & won very quickly too. As you said, survival instinct kicked in, I guess the level of concentration was intense, well as intense as it gets. Well done mate & all the Task Force, Galtieri can rot for putting you though it, though not the AR soldiers.
davetowers1 1 year ago
@jonrobbinson There's a video here on YT which is about a bloke called Sergio Delgado's return to the islands. He was on Longdon & from where he said his position was maybe manned a machine gun post. He described a member of 3 Para who was lying face up still sort of standing against the rocks. That may have been this brave man I don't know. He got injured in his legs & a member of 3 Para gun still in hand picked him up by his belt, took a look & got one our nurses to help...speaks volumes
davetowers1 1 year ago
@davetowers1 - you are talking about the documentary 'No tan nuestras' On YT it is in 7 epizodes. The part about Mt. Longdon starts in episode 4 watch?v=az9x4OeEJxs . My Spanish is not good enough to understand everything, but more or less I understand. The same story is also mentioned in the movie 'Return to the Falklands" where Sergio visits Mt. Longdon.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner Yes I remember his comments on the plane from BA. I also saw the tears in his eyes as he sighted the islands for the first time since 1982. This is what I don't seem to be able to get through to some of the British keyboard warriors. They were normal people too, with feelings & sent out to do a job. They get nothing but respect here as Bob won't have it any other way & he's right. I can't help feeling the person he's describing is this man.Sergio was obviously manning a machine gun
davetowers1 1 year ago
@jonrobbinson Jon I'm "speaking" to another person on another vid. Were 3 battle group seconded to 2 & 3 Para during this conflict? He's saying he was an observer behind enemy lines. Maybe Bob can answer this too.
davetowers1 1 year ago
@davetowers1 If you are doubting my authenticity as a Falklands Vet, then that's fine, I won't lose any sleep over that. But if you're going to bring another Vet into it, how about asking the question correctly fella! 1. Yes, I was a Spotter for 29 Commando (NOT Royal Marines, we're Army, not ALL Commando is Marine). Now the question, 2 and 3 Para were SECONDED to 3 Battle Group, NOT the other way around.
4GREENJACKET 1 year ago
@4GREENJACKET Ok I've already apologised for my mistake, as I said I don't know much about the operational side of the armed forces & don't know what a "battle group is". What I do know is this video is to pay respect to a very brave man & shouldn't be used as a point of argument. I don't doubt your authenticity as a vet of that war at all, if I gave that impression then again I apologise.
davetowers1 1 year ago
@4GREENJACKET There's an Argentinian vet on this video who's also my friend. He makes more sensible comments than many. He reckons soldiers in all wars fight for peace, I think he's 100% right. The people who gave their lives, if they're able to see what's happening, if they can see they made a difference, surely that maybe of some comfort. The "difference" though must be peace. That's what soldiers fight for..peace
davetowers1 1 year ago
@davetowers1 - well, I don't particularly like the term "fight for peace" - it was too often used for propaganda purposes. Maybe "reconciliation" would sound better? I am not against the idea of peace, I just don't like expression "fight for peace".
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago 3
@davetowers1 the only thing we fight for,is our mates,nothing to do with peace or politics,BYE BYE!!
4GREENJACKET 1 year ago
@4GREENJACKET "the only thing we fight for,is our mates,"
You're certainly not fighting for me.
"nothing to do with peace or politics"
Pawns.
Islandretreat 1 year ago 2
@4GREENJACKET that should read,3 commando brigade,but i cant be asked? RIP sgt mckay.
4GREENJACKET 1 year ago
@davetowers1 Hi mate, I hope you're OK!. In regard to BIM5, it was front line on west/south once Longdon was lost by our RIM7 (the same RIM7 unit has to defend Wireless Ridge as well). I don't remember having seen, read or talk with Paras that had to fight against our BIM5 since the unit had to defend Williams, Tumbledown and Supper Hill. BIM5 was attacked by Scots Guards, the remaining men of Welsh Guards, Gurkhas on Williams, and some Blue and Royals armoured units.
lucianoestivill 1 year ago
@davetowers1 BIM5 was a conscrpt unit, as all sent to war, not taking into account special forces, of course. It was the typical conscript unit we used to have those times, but the training was correct enough for a decent fight, and the equipment and supplies were good set up for a cold and wet war like that due to it was a south marine unit. Cpt. Robacio, our commander, was a brave and competent chief as well.
There was only 1 conscript unit trained in commando style: RIE25.
lucianoestivill 1 year ago
@jocksmen thank god
the jocks never f--k about
good lads and thank God I
have jock blood in me.!
uk/usaboy.
jocksmen 1 year ago
Eddie: Where is the Falkland Islands located? In Europe? Or in south America? Britain existed before Argentina because Argentina is part of the new World that Colombus discovered but that does not make it British because they took the land while it was still isolate , the islands are close to Argentina not in Europe that was the closest to a country established in South America.
veritas700 1 year ago
@veritas700 - your ancestors came from Europe, but you live in US and now US is your home and you have right to decide about the future of your country. The ancestors of the Falklanders came from Britain (mainly, but not exclusively). They live in the Falkland Islands and they have right to decide anbout the future of their homeland, regardless why and from where and for what purpose their ancestors arrived.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@veritas700 Felizidades para hoy. Es una fiesta de Columbus yo pienso alli? Aqui en España tambien. Salut
davetowers1 1 year ago 2
@davetowers1
Happy Columbus day to you too!
veritas700 1 year ago
I agree Only in 20th century people realized conquering someone else's territory is something wrong, This is exactly what I am saying...
veritas700 1 year ago
I am also not trying to insult your knowledge but I stick with facts, my ancestors came from Europe and I know as an American who I am and what belongs to the Americans and what our ancestors did to take lands that did not belong to them, I know what was taken from the natives and much more not just in one country I studied this but in a few growing up as a child diplomat
veritas700 1 year ago
You can check the history yourself in books or online. By the way if you travel to South America, Italy, Portugal and Spain. America is ONE not as USA considers it to be North America one continent and another South America jujst for your information just in case as well because most people ignore what the orgianal countries consider to be America.
veritas700 1 year ago
@veritas700 - Things are more complicated than that. Geographic proximity is not everything. Argentina gives the argument about the succession from Spain, but Britain has the argument that the residents want the British sovereignty, not Argentinian one. Anyway, I think, by using military force in 1982, Argentina actually weakened their arguments rather than strenghtened them.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
Bob, did you revisit the islands this year? If so what was the reaction of the islanders. I'm really asking if they were grateful for your efforts
davetowers1 1 year ago
My deepest respect to either contingents and there fallen ...
Hoplite87 1 year ago
@Hoplite87 Nice thing to say mate. To explain - this is a tribute video to a soldier who was awarded our highest military honour the Victoria Cross. They're not given out lightly, only to people who put the lives of their comrades above their own when in battle. Unfortunately almost all recipients are dead. I guess in AR you have an equivalent?
davetowers1 1 year ago
@davetowers1 Well I've been searching for that, so far i can tell for the war in 1982 there was a specific distintion by the decree of the law 22.607 (1998) witch codecorates with vetereans the Cross "La Nación Argentina al Heroico Valor en Combate", thats the highest ranking. For example Estevez and Giachino recived them. Now surely there must be as well a military recognition pre existant to the war...
Hoplite87 1 year ago
I was at the Cementery in the Shot,Sgt Mckay's resting place is in much need of some attention totally bare,only Private Burt seem's to get an regular visit,please lad's try and take the time...
MountLongdon82 1 year ago
@MountLongdon82 jason burts parents visit reguarly which probably explains that.
kpconnery 1 year ago
Bob: at 1:55 I see a pic that seems to be Darwin Argentinian Cementery., I'm OK? I cannot se it clearly.... If what I see the are english warriors taking a picture in front of "our2 cementery, I suppose it's a kind of reverence and respect to your former adversaries, and not a party meaning: "well, see there: We're here, the winners, while what you see behind us is the men we killed. I'm sure it's the 1st option, a gentlemen respect behaviour, not a unatural and disregard act, am I wrong?
lucianoestivill 1 year ago
@lucianoestivill The photos were just taken as was. There was no motive or reason behind them. Many of the photos were taken on the Falklands just as momentos or as a picture history of the islands and time spent on the islands.
bobgladstone 1 year ago
@bobgladstone Your answer infact reinforces what I believed before your response: nothing to do with a "we're here the winners, while what you see behind us are the men we killed" but on the contrary, a kind act. There wouldn't be another explanation why english soldiers waste time going there to take "disregarding pics". On the contrary, they went to our cementry, which I consider a very respectful act, and took a pic in the same place their ex opponents lay. A nice attitude, to say the least.
lucianoestivill 1 year ago
Bob your answer infact reinforces what I believed before your response: nothing to do with a "we're here the winners, while what you see behind us are the men we killed" but on the contrary, a kind act. There wouldn't be another explanation why english soldiers waste time going there to take "disregarding pics". On the contrary, they went to our cementry, which I consider a very respectful act, and took a pic in the same place their ex opponents lay. A nice attitude, to say the least.
lucianoestivill 1 year ago
Bob your answer infact reinforces what I believed before your response: nothing to do with a "we're here the winners, while what you see behind us are the men we killed" but on the contrary, a kind act. There wouldn't be another explanation why english soldiers waste time going there to take "disregarding pics". On the contrary, they went to our cementry, which I consider a very respectful act, and took a pic in the same place their ex opponents lay. A nice attitude, to say the least.
lucianoestivill 1 year ago
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lucianoestivill 1 year ago
@lucianoestivill I agree mate, I think i've said before you'll not find a British veteran of 1982 that doesn't have ultimate respect for AR forces. I don't think there's anything but regret for what happened & as you rightly say, there's no point in going there to gloat. It seems as if it opens old wounds for some, and buries demons for others. I'm no soldier & can't know properly.
davetowers1 1 year ago
cant be leave his wife sold his vc
1994england 1 year ago
@1994england Why not. Ian would have wanted his wife to not live a life of poverty and selling his VC helped her financially. She would not have done this out of disrespect only to ensure herslf and her family could live life comfortably.
RIP Ian Mckay V.C
bobgladstone 1 year ago 3
@bobgladstone sad reflection on present day Britain i think,we find millions to support other countries,and our vets and their families struggle..charity begins at home.....
jonboy1973 1 year ago
@rusoargento1 I'm not discussing the "ownership" of Malvinas, which I believe They belong to us. I was just trying to share my concern and I'm showing honour to an English soldier, a human being like you and me. This is the point of this video is about: honour and respect. British people and We the Argentinian people can discuss about Malvinas and what country do They belong to, but as far as I know this video is about a soldier: warriors are warriors and DO NOT have nationality..... Peace all.
lucianoestivill 1 year ago
@lucianoestivill Yes mate, you've learnt the hard way I know. You're right it's without nationality that we need to move forward. This video is a tribute to a very brave man, Bob thinks that without his efforts more lives would have been lost. It's good to type. We all need to learn the futility of war as in the end it solves nothing. Just causes resentment, loss of life & the consequences of being in battle, which I've learnt from others are hard to deal with. You're right Peace!
davetowers1 1 year ago
@davetowers1 Correct Dave Ians quick thinking and courage in the heat of battle without doubt saved many lives. We were pinned down in particular by 50mm causing havoc and Ians actions deserved his V.C
jonrobbinson 1 year ago
@jonrobbinson Jon are you going to go this year back to the islands? I think 3 Para veterans from that time plan a visit, it may bury a few ghosts mate. Just a thought
davetowers1 1 year ago
@davetowers1 If I am correct Jon has been back in 2000, but I maybe wrong.
It does help to get rid of the demons.
bobgladstone 1 year ago
@bobgladstone Hmm bob He has the ultimate respect for all. I know Ian Scrivens was his mate who at the early age of 23 died - that's shit to cope with. He's commenting about Corporal Stewart Mac who he regards in the ultimo too. I know Jon suffers badly too this day & anything that can help? I've admiration for all
davetowers1 1 year ago
@davetowers1 Scrivs was only 17 at the time of his death
Scouse Maclaughlin was a real leader of men and without his ccourage and leadership many more would have prished on Longdon
kpconnery 1 year ago
@kpconnery 17? no-one deserves that. What must his parents have felt?. I'm a dad of 5, well in the last week become a grandad too. There are some things that leave me speechless & that's one. I'll type about this later when I get my head around that.
davetowers1 1 year ago
@kpconnery Still can't get my head around that. At 17 ughh. Politicians should be made to fight the front line. There would then be no more wars.
davetowers1 1 year ago
@bobgladstone No Bob as you well know returning to those islands was a nightmare for me and only demonstrated to em the futilty of the war a stupid loss of life for both sides and a loss of many of my friends.
At the time I was hardened to it after all I joined the Paras to fight and did so and then went on to join the FFL and work in Private security for almost 25 years but the thought of Mount Longdon will haunt me for all of my days
jonrobbinson 1 year ago
@jonrobbinson Yea Jon, I don't know if I've mentioned this before, but let's suppose politicians who sent people into battle had to fight the front line themselves, or send their children. I don't think there'd be anymore wars. They just don't care or understand the consequences. The parents of the fallen in 1982 will still be suffering today, as will the children of some.
davetowers1 1 year ago
@davetowers1 Yes conflicts throughout the world and mans inability to live in peace although for many years I travelled the world looking to fight and kill so its not always politicians at fault
jonrobbinson 1 year ago
@jonrobbinson Yea but Jon I blame the politicians for your want or need to travel the world & fight or kill. I'll reiterate if the politicians that sent young people into battle had to fight the front line themselves. There would be no more wars. It's easy to live in peace, just say nice things & wish no-one harm mate. Easy for me to say, I guess harder for people at the sharp end.
davetowers1 1 year ago
@davetowers1 Yes Dave have been back to the Islands and for me it didnt help much other than engrain my hatred for Thatcher and her governement. It opened old wounds and made me decide that combat was really what I wanted to do, which I have until a year ago been doing but have decided to hang up my boots and return to civvy street.
jonrobbinson 1 year ago
@jonrobbinson That's a shame Jon. I reckon that any politician that sends someone into a war zone should fight the front line themselves - or send their sons. There'd then be no more wars. Glad you decided to hang up your boots though, you've a good chance of settling down and becoming an old man - like me. I turned 52 this month.
davetowers1 1 year ago
@davetowers1 Yeah getting blown up kinda made my mind up luckily minor injuries but decided getting too old and the odds were begining to stack up against me and it would be nice to reach old age
jonrobbinson 1 year ago
@jonrobbinson Well I reckon getting blown up would do it for most.
davetowers1 1 year ago
@jonrobbinson Hung your boots up at last you old war dog LOL
kpconnery 1 year ago
@davetowers1 - Well, I don't think there will be no more wars if politician had to fight themselves - in the Middle Ages they did and wars were quite common. The only difference would be that different people would be elected - fitter and trained in fighting.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner Hmm an interesting view. The middle ages were quite different though. I couldn't imagine Margaret Thatcher or her son fighting like Jon did. I couldn't either see Galtieri or his junta doing so either & that was a military led leadership. I could neither imagine Hitler or Stalin on the front line at the time of their leadership. Just a thought
davetowers1 1 year ago
@jonrobbinson Hmm I guess you must have tabbed back to Longdon. I'd hoped it would lay things to rest for you. Obviously not, it's too deeply in your system. I can understand that after what you went through. I've been typing to someone here who's screenname is KPConnelly, do you know him?
davetowers1 1 year ago
@davetowers1 I think you mean K.P Connery (Kevin Connery )yes he was in 3 Para too got mentioned in despatches
jonrobbinson 1 year ago
@jonrobbinson Yea he mentioned your mate that sadly didn't make it. Used a name that only someone that knew him would use.
davetowers1 1 year ago
@davetowers1 Lost lots of mates didnt make it :(
jonrobbinson 1 year ago
@jonrobbinson Yea that's what for me makes it so stupid. Back then we've discussed, all joined up for different reasons. There was the NI issue, but not many expected to go to war, just learn a trade. Then this. So many fallen & injured, I hope the Kelpers are grateful. Luciano here understands fully, I don't know if he was on mt Longdon, if he was you were probably trying to kill each other. He's polite & respectful though.
davetowers1 1 year ago
@davetowers1 Yes we did join up for differnet reasons I was laways in trouble always loved to fight loved the paras and wanted to fight and must admit the bloodbath suited me but not others although mentally scarred me for life and something i always bottled up inside.
yes Scrivs was one of my best mates and to die so young was a real injustice and as for Corporal scouse Mac best soldier and leader i ever served under and the only one harder than me lol
jonrobbinson 1 year ago
@jonrobbinson Yes mate Scrivs was exactly what he said. It's only I don't think the bloodbath did suit you. I think he was only 17? hardly a life really. An 'effin shame, he may have been a grand parent by now - god!. As for Stewart Mac, I just don't & can't have an answer.
davetowers1 1 year ago
-Dave and John: nope bros, I was not there in Longdon. In Longdon was RIM7 (from Buenos Aires, La Plata City). RIM7 had 3 Coy and had to defend Longdon/Wireless Ridge line.
-BIM5 (from Tierra del Fuego, Rio Grande City), also with 3 Coys, was behind the line of Wireless Ridge, Longdon, Two Sisters, Harriet. BIM5 had to defend Williams, Goat Ridge, Tumbledown, Supper Hill line, plus covering/counterstriking any hole/gap on the route to Stanley.
-I NEVER put a foot in Longdon......
lucianoestivill 1 year ago
@jonrobbinson MID yep for what it was worth when there were others who deserved recognition but got none at all
kpconnery 1 year ago
@davetowers1 Jon has been back and he was one of those that it made his mind more in turmoil.
Mind you he always was an absolute nutter LOL but a guy you always wanted on your side.
kpconnery 1 year ago
@kpconnery It seems that for some it buries the ghosts or re-ignites old wounds. We're all different. Jon said it was a nightmare for him, it's a shame. Are you going back there this year, someone told me that 3 Para veterans of 1982 are planning a visit. The weather there is poor at the moment so I guess it can't have passed.
davetowers1 1 year ago
@lucianoestivill Mate, why can't you change your pattern of thought. They belong to the islanders, They're British sovereign territory at the moment, if you want that to change, then you'll need to seduce the minds of the islanders, it's their choice. It's the only way forward. No more war. I've heard too much about battle & know it's not the way to go.
davetowers1 1 year ago
@davetowers1 You know brother, it's very difficult to me not to thinking Malvinas is part of my territory. England used to be a nation that was used to conqueer territories as it wanted in the name of the Queen, the King or whatever other resourse available. Argentina is the opposite: we liberated ourselves from being part of an Empire (Spaniard Empire), another Empire like British Empire. So for me, they are part of Argentina and even we had a garrison there in XIX....
lucianoestivill 1 year ago
@lucianoestivill To be honest mate I no longer care. My heart goes out to the fallen & the suffering, but I've made so many AR friends though these videos, it no longer seems relevant. If I could help I would, but can't in any way. I don't want to seem disrespectful to any soldier there, but what happened has made me able to make AR friends. Hope that makes sense
davetowers1 1 year ago 2
@davetowers1 You can firmly believe Falklands is part of UK, and I'm 180 degrees about it but, does it means anything really relevant??? Not at all... You know, I was "accused" by some argentinian ex military men (just noob gansters in green uniforms, not true "soldiers"), I recieved menaces, and as I told you privately, I was ambushed and tried to be encircled by 5 guys. Poor boys: they got what they deserved: some Aikido and all over. Why? Because I consider you all as Friends, not "Enemies"!
lucianoestivill 1 year ago
@lucianoestivill There's nothing relevant mate. It's difficult for me to comment on that issue as it would betray all that died there, plus the ones that still suffer. I don't think with hindsight any of our soldiers wanted to go to war, they were doing a job. I consider you as a friend too, you're polite & respectful & that's good enough for me.
davetowers1 1 year ago
@davetowers1 and @lucianoestivill - I think it is not unusual that different nations have different visions of history and historic events/figures etc. This is unavoidable. Every nation will have their own vision of history. Of course facts should be the same, but their interpretation and assessment would be different.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner It's always going to be that way mate. Eddie though has pointed out a UN resolution that makes historical facts irrelevant. The islands are for whatever the islanders want. I've said for many months that if AR want to move forward they'll need to seduce the minds of the islanders. Using force like in 1982 & locking them in a shed won't do that.
davetowers1 1 year ago
@davetowers1 - I think in this particular case there would be several separate questions: 1) assessment of historical events in 1833 and earlier - here I think there will always be a disagreement 2) assessment of the decision of the invasion in 1982 - as right (re-taking) or wrong, but could be for many different reasons: morally wrong (because the islands belong to UK or because the use of military force was wrong, even if the cause was right)? Or just diplomatically wrong? TBC...
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner Yes mate, but the UN resolution Eddie posted on Sonnys video makes any historical facts irrelevant. They've ruled that a peaceful solution should be reached & that the islanders wishes are paramount. Invasion is hardly peaceful. I think AR should have realised that in 1982 with UN resolution 501.
davetowers1 1 year ago
@davetowers1 - Yes, I agree. Historical facts are different and present situation is different. Of course if one accepts that historical facts are in favour of Britain - one also accepts present British sovereignty. But even if one thinks historical facts favour Argentina it is still possible to accept the British sovereignty because of the facts you mentioned (the will of inhabitants mainly).
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner Any thoughts of future war about this need putting in the bin. UNASUR is at the moment in it's infancy, but it won't be forever probably. The UK now has the while of Europes resources on it's side. It doesn't bear thinking about. I don't want another drop of blood spilt over two windswept islands. This video is about a very brave man, it cost him his life & that's too high a price.
davetowers1 1 year ago
cont.... 3) Situation at present - what should be done in the present situation facing the reality as it is? Here I can imagine the common solution is possible, although difficult to achieve. Historical arguments can be assessed differently, but present reality is as it is. The facts are: 1. the residents want the British administration, 2. Britain is capable of defending the islands in case of the invasion, 3. Argentina has the possession of islands written into constitution....
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
... which makes it difficult to give up the claims 4. Argentina rejects any military solution. All these factors show that we are unlikely to see any changes whether positive like reaching any final agreement or negative like a new conflict. So one can be either unhappy for the lack of perspective for any final agreement or happy because there will be no new conflict.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner It's not now just Britain, since the EU charter was signed it's the whole of Europe. Any future task force may be enormous. AR point at something & declare it theirs, they write their own constitution but no-one needs to recognise it. The propaganda machine then kicks in. I've become friends with some very nice Argentinians through these videos, & with you and I'm very grateful for that.
davetowers1 1 year ago
@davetowers1 - Yes, I agree. EU members have to back fellow EU members. Of course a constutution does not have any power outside a country, I wanted just to show how difficult it would be for any (hypothetic) Argentine politician to give up the claims to the islands, even for economic benefits for the country. Of course there were cases in history of the recognition of new borders, but he process was always painful.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner Well producing a propaganda leaflet in 2007 didn't help. If AR leaders just didn't speak about it the issue would eventually go away. The drilling for oil hasn't helped either. Argentina is a very rich country in terms of resources. It has uranium & all sorts of minerals. If they concentrated on developing, they'd be far better off IMHO
davetowers1 1 year ago
@davetowers1 - what leaflet of 2007 do you mean?
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner I'll try & get a link. It was produced in the AR version of Spanish & English. It contained information designed probably to rabble rouse, but was inconsistent with the treaties, most of which I've read. Argentinians speak a sort of mixture of Italian & Spanish, If you type to Delfi she'll tell you. Sort of Birra instead of caña, jarra or cerveza which is beer
davetowers1 1 year ago
@davetowers1 ROFL........ Beer=Cerveza CORRECT! Beer=Birra (Cerveza in slang)!
lllllLoOoLlllll...........
lucianoestivill 1 year ago
@lucianoestivill Well yes mate but there are more words. If I ask for a caña I get the same, a jarra & it's in a jug. My good friend - delfi, she lives in the belgrano area of BA has told me lots of things. I value people.
davetowers1 1 year ago
@davetowers1 I live in Villa del Parque, BA, and Belgrano is where I work, my mother too, just 20 minutes from home.... In Belgrano is Regimiento de Granaderos a Caballo, a Special Armoured Grenadier (very well equipped and super-trained unit, which purpose is, apart from defending our country, to protect the President. It's the unit that has to take care of our Presidents 24hs a day, 365 day per year...... So your Friend lives 20 minutes from home!!!!!
lucianoestivill 1 year ago
@lucianoestivill Yes mate, I'm friends with her on Facebook too. She's a very nice young woman with a very good sense of humour. She looks at things reasonably & rationally & like you is always polite & respectful. She get's upset when people insult her, or even worse when idiots type about nuking BA. I could never support that. That goes against for me everything this man died for.
davetowers1 1 year ago 2
@lucianoestivill If you go out into Belgrano you'll no doubt meet her, she's a bit of party, party, party. Thoroughly respectable though but has a good time - I can't fault that as long as she's safe. Is that unit on horseback or is it artillary?
davetowers1 1 year ago
Dave, Regimiento de Granaderos a Caballo is a Special Armoured Grenadier Unit which has home made TAM Tanks (105mm), VCTP Combat Infantry Armoured Vehicles (the same Marder German Army has, but we built them here), Armoured 120mm Mortar Vehicles, etc. Our Army has no more conscripts but only professional soldiers, and this Regiment is pretty good. By the way: for ceremonial issues, We have beautiful horses for parades, and that stuff.....
lucianoestivill 1 year ago
@lucianoestivill Yea I like to see the horses. They're a bit special really & act as cavalry I guess in times of need. 105mm? that's heavy duty stuff. It was just the name of the unit that led me to horses.
davetowers1 1 year ago 2
@lucianoestivill Well maybe next year we'll meet. Sometimes I have to travel to BA with work & maybe we can share a beer. There are a few more Argentinians I'd like to meet too. It's good to type! No karate though lol. I'm a teacher in one of those disciplines, just a beer, a shake of hands & some good conversation & love for fellow human beings. That's what life's about really mate
davetowers1 1 year ago
@davetowers1 Why not Dave? I have no chickenhouse at home, lol, so as you don't have to pay for an expensive hotel! LOLOLOL...... But it would be a fortunate honour and meaningful approach shaking hands, do a big hug or drinking a beer, a scotch whisky, (lol), and sharing cups of coffe and pleasant chats with a kind and good man.... And the same counts for Alex: come to Argentina from your homeland Poland Alex. Argentina is very large and beautiful! Both would enjoy it, I AM SURE!!!!! ;-)
lucianoestivill 1 year ago
@lucianoestivill Yea mate my good friend Delfi has shown me photos of Argentina, It has just about everything on offer. The scenery in the north is spectacular
davetowers1 1 year ago
@lucianoestivill - Thank you for the invitation. If you come to Poland you are also invited and Dave as well. There are many pubs in Krakow and a wide selection of beer (other alcoholic and non-alcoholic drinks as well) ;-). A friend of mine wants to go to Argentina in about two years or so. She wants to climb the moutains. I am not a climber, but if she finds some inexpensive flight connention... never knows....
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner Thanks Aleksandra. I'd like to see Krakow, I've see your video about it & it looks great. Also thank you Bob for posting this video, I know we're off topic but through this we've made some friends. I reckon Ian if he could see would be proud. cheers
davetowers1 1 year ago
@lucianoestivill Thank you mate, I don't know when but it's likely I'll be there.
davetowers1 1 year ago
@lucianoestivill and @davetowers1 - talking about specific expressions... - in the link I sent you some there is a word "boludear" - from the contect I figured out it means "doing nothing special", but I might be wrong...
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner I have never seen or heard that word before. As I said Argentinians speak a sort of hybrid of Spanish & Italian. I've many Spanish dictionaries & verb books & it's in none. I'll bet it's some sort of AR slang. Luciano may be able to tell you.
davetowers1 1 year ago
@davetowers1 - I hope so....
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner rofl........... BOLUDEAR: depending on the situation, it can be understood as a big insult. For example: if you said someone "you're BOLUDEANDO", in this case this slang word can be taken as a disregarding way of saying "you're doing nothing special". BOLUDEAR, as Alex says, mean "doing nothing specially relevant". In fact, it's a slang disrespective way to say it, as if you say in english: "you're doing a futile, stupid or nonsense thing". You could get a punch as a response! LMAO
lucianoestivill 1 year ago
@lucianoestivill - so the conclusion is that I'd better NOT TO USE this word, at least not while describing the activities of a person I am talking to and not in formal situations ;)
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner We use the word Alex, all days, but we do it with people who we know and have a relationship or friends, or fellows and mates, etc. Do not use it with someone who is an unknown person for you, but in the rest of the cases, you can use it and it's OK, it's often understood as a close friendly treatement in fact, but only in case the other person is related to you and has friendship. Otherwise, it would be a dangerous option!!!
lucianoestivill 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner As for 1883, Argentinians are taught that the UK kicked them out when this isn't entirely true. There's quite a few of AR heritage still living there. According to the Nootka Sound Convention, which I've read, I think it was clause 6 stated that the UK were in order to make establishment if another power did. Spain then were far militarily inferior & had no choice but to sign. War is always bad news.
davetowers1 1 year ago
@davetowers1 - the disagreement should not refer to the facts. If the settlers were not expelled one cannot teach they were expelled. The difference in opinions can only refer to the interpretation of facts (for example the importance of certain facts, their legal or moral assessment etc.), but not to the facts.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner Well Aleksandra, some of them weren't to happy about the UK making establishment there (typing about 1833). Can't blame them as I guess lines of communication were scarce. The UK therefore kicked out the complainers & allowed the others to stay
davetowers1 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner - typo mistake - it should be: " THE process was always painful"
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner Don't worry about typos mate, we all make 'em.
davetowers1 1 year ago
@davetowers1 - I usually do not worry, however in that case the typo changed the meaning of words.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
So the same event for some can be agression for others retaking. The same person can be a dictator or a leader etc.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@davetowers1 British Empire, after Spain was in trouble by 1806, due to Napoleón, blocked our ships to sail from Buenos Aires with the economical problem that it meant. Great Britain also wanted to take from Spain our territory. Fortunately, We defeated both British Empire invasions: 1806 (British took our main city, Buenos Aires, but we conqueared again), and 1807 (British invaded us again, tried to take Buenos Aires but were defeated). I consider Malvinas it's another part of our sovereignity.
lucianoestivill 1 year ago
@davetowers1 By the way dave: I saw a link here about "A New Bank Holiday V.C Day (Victoria Cross)" As this is a nice attitud for all people in UK involved in a war (soldiers, their families and friends), I signed in. It was a surprise to me that there are no people that want to sign or be part of it. It's a real pity, I'm sorry that both UK people or Argentina people simply don't care about it. Another reason why war is a DISGRACE...
lucianoestivill 1 year ago
@lucianoestivill I've signed up to Bobs campaign for a VC day. It's not a medal given lightly, only to people who put others lives first in battle. You've shown yourself to be a true gentleman IMHO. Take care mate
davetowers1 1 year ago 2
@lucianoestivill Bob's also posted a video about Col H.Jones VC who sadly died in the battle at Goose Green. You may find members of 2 Para there my friend.
davetowers1 1 year ago
englaterra gano esa guerra gracias a la ayuda de la NATO Y EEUU,respeto a los muertos en combate,malvinas ,patria o muerte
rusoargento1 1 year ago
@rusoargento1 Britain did not need the help of USA or Nato it was simply the British Army was superior in terms of leadership and in combat
bobgladstone 1 year ago
@lucianoestivill 2 Para fought at Goose Green.
Ian McKay was a member of 3 Para who fought on Mount Longdon
bobgladstone 1 year ago
@bobgladstone I know my Friend! But maybe here there's a 2 Para member here that took part on Goose Green fierce battle against one of RIE25 Coy. It's for me specially interesting Darwin Hill battle, having Jones and then Major Keeble as commander. For sure, at least one member of 2 Para must be reading this channel Bob. Maybe you know some of your comrades here who was there in Goose Green battle serving in 2 Para Batallion... THANKS ALL FOR ANY HELP IN REGARD TO THAT BATTLE!!!
lucianoestivill 1 year ago
RIP Sgt Ian Mc Kay from one who served Utrinque Paratus
fighter138 1 year ago 2
Ohhh I forgot to say: all those people who do not respect the channels should, at least, identify themselves. Otherwise, We could be just in front of gangsters and ignorants, disrespective people, just coward spammers.....
lucianoestivill 1 year ago
@OberstStainer si pero no es importante, marxista o no. mi no gusta la guerra de 1982, por favor piense Sgt Ian McKay VC
davetowers1 1 year ago 2
Whatever is stated about Lucianostivill, he I think is entitled to his opinion. He's always polite and respectful. He's here to honour what the point of this video is about. I think if everyone else behaves in a similar manner we can perhaps have a good debate. There's no point in rudeness.
davetowers1 1 year ago 2
@davetowers1 ObertStainer, another PC"BattleField 1942" player. I AM NOT comunist or marxist as this kids can say. In fact, I am placed in the other side of the street Argentina's President is, but I WILL ALWAYS support and respect the Legal Institutions not for being obliged to, but due to I like it that way. As Argentinians Soldiers says in an act of reverence in front of our glorious Flag: "SUBORDINACIÓN Y VALOR PARA DEFENDER A LA PATRIA".
PS: I have no problem with comunists or whatever....
lucianoestivill 1 year ago
@lucianoestivill Mate I don't care if you're communist, marxist or a dentist, you're entitled to your opinion & profession. You're polite & here for the right reasons, that's good enough
davetowers1 1 year ago
HONESTLY Dave: I was "accused" of being Jewish (as if being Jewish was bad). But I'm Catholic. Anyway, What is the problem with a person for being Jewish? Is that bad? IT ISN'T. I was "accused" of being Comunist, WHICH I'M NOT. But I have no problem with Comunists. Why should I hate a man because his religion is not the same I follow?
I`m open minded enough to ALL religions, political toughts, sex, etc. In "The Art of Peace" (as TRUE WARRIORS SHOULD BE), there's no room for close minded clowns.
lucianoestivill 1 year ago
@lucianoestivill Their attitude just doesn't make sense to me. That war was now a long time ago, maybe the people who are saying these things lost someone close? Those sort of injuries don't heal, but a plaster can be put over them. They're trying to bully you into doing what they want, assuming their opinion is correct, when clearly you have your own mind.
davetowers1 1 year ago
@lucianoestivill Ah dont worry Bob just deletes any comments from disrespectful people regardless of colour or race
jonrobbinson 1 year ago 2
@davetowers1 Thanks Dave luciano is a FRIEND OF MINE AND HIS OPINIONS RESPECTED
bobgladstone 1 year ago
@bobgladstone OHH Bob: I was also "accused" of not being "patriot" because I chat with an "enemy" (you!) and because a military men it is supposed that can not enjoy shareing a cup of coffe with an "enemy" (that "enemy" is you again....), and worse than that: have an English Para as a Friend (you!). It is supposed I should hate you, and your Paras fellows, and any British soldier. NONSENSE, just a disgraceful quote by men without values. It's a shame for me this people are argentinian like me.
lucianoestivill 1 year ago