Roman Catholic Womenpriests First Chicago Ordination

[toronjo40]

This crazy women are playing to be Priest and Deacons.. There is not such as thig as Roman Catholic womenpriests... 

[rwalkerlcsw]

Incredible! Doesn't deserve a comment. Anglicans don't want them either.

[CulturePROVOCATEUR]

Leave it to the UCC to host this travesty.

[boiboibois]

these women aren't Roman Catholic church Vatican not approved I wouldn't want a women priests .what the hell they thinking. in Shane

[assasincomedy]

Why can't they go become episcopalian or anglican?

[1andreworman]

this is not Roman Catholic, or even excommunicated scholasticism, it is confused protestantism

[iamaromancatholic]

this is ridiculous

[francanarsie]

Whether or not you are for women's ordination or not, that is fine; however, there is no archeological evidence that women were ordained priests or bishops. Deaconesses yes, but with a role that was related to the rite of initiation. So, theologically, no matter what you believe, you cannot make up archeological data.

[enzoselva888]

LOL

Is admission to this group contingent on having really horrible hair? lol

[MsCampobasso]

What a joke...women wanting to be like Men. Christ had an All MALE Priesthood. That will nor can ever Change! Stay home with your children and grandchildren and assume the role God gave you. Whether marriage to a Man or to God as a nun. You women are a complete embarrassmentm for all women! Find something else to appease your lonliness and help destroy your Pride!

[nhhs1210]

This is not even Catholic

[saintben2008]

I think this is beautiful.

[0276boy]

Fake. WHO COULD POSSIBLY CALL HIMSELF A CATHOLIC FALL FOR THIS! Read Canon Law. Pathetic in the extreme.

[InChristoRege118]

AAHHA, this is going to branch off to dogs becoming priest..... :) just a thought. What if my dog has a vocation to preach the gospel? or no even better, what if my lesbian friend wants to be a POPE? WOah, just a thought.

[atothestrong]

If they were so sure that this was the Lord's will, they would not spend the first few minutes of their "ceremony" trying to defend what they are doing. They are trying to convince themselves. May God have mercy on their souls everlasting.

[JonTheJansenist]

Yet another flock of heretical Jezebels attempting to merge Christianity with Greek Paganism.

"But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence." 1 Timothy 2:12

Anyone who contradicts the scriptures, and the direct teachings of the Apostolic Church needs to repent and recant, and the Anglican Church should be ashamed of itself for celebrating this nonsense. Feminism is a distinct religion from Christianity and has not place in the church.

[MrJayguess]

@JonTheJansenist I agree that one should not contradict scripture: as Paul stated clearly " There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all ONE in Christ Jesus." Gal 3:28.Nor should one ignore the female church leaders who would preside at house Eucharists (eg Priscilla, Lydia, Phoebe & others), nor the historical evidence (eg the 2nd Century fresco 'Fractio Panis' showing a Eucharist presided over by a woman). Feminism isnt a religion - but bigotry IS a sin.

[JonTheJansenist]

@MrJayguess You just mutilated the context of Gal 3:28 to fight against a clear demonstration of Apostolic opposition to this abomination, don't talk to me about bigotry and sin you malicious little guilt-mongering worm. It's bad enough that the Anglicans seduced Utrecht into abandoning their Jansenist roots theologically, but now they are turning them into a feminist cult as well. It's sad that it takes an authoritarian body like the curia to stamp out ridiculousness like this.

[MrJayguess]

@JonTheJansenist Hmmmm what a lovely comment filled with Christian love. I cannot, nor will not stoop to your level of hatred, insult and misogynistic bigotry. 

[JonTheJansenist]

@MrJayguess It is out of Christian love that I said what I did, just as Christ himself did when he fashioned whips and forcefully drove the moneychangers out of the temple. Your sort has made his house into a marketplace yet again, parading around politically correct doctrines of men without consulting what The Word has to say on the matter.

And just for your own information, your defense of this nonsense is onto itself an act of hatred of both nature and God's law. That is all.

[frbjoernLA]

@MrJayguess Our Lord called people like you"Vipers" which I am sure you know means poisonous Reptiles! When they were trying to drag souls away from the clear teachings of his Word. You don't have to stoop to the level of hatred and insults and if I might add for clarification of the Truth, theological perversion. You are already there!! But !The Gospel still is and always will be found in John 1:12. 3:16 etc., as clearly proclaimed by JontheJansenist and not by a few misguided Women!

[frbjoernLA]

@JonTheJansenist Do you realize where you are"casting your Pearl" !! I am sure you are also aware of what holy scripture say's about the great falling away from the truth in the last days. Please continue to contend for the Faith that was once delivered to the Saints, still cherished by normal Christian regenerate Men and Woman. May God continue to bless you and your YouTube Ministry as you continue to ward off the Fire'y Darts of Hell. Hang in there and continue to be faithful to the Gospel.

[JonTheJansenist]

@frbjoernLA I am aware, but St. Paul also said to admonish a heretic twice before determining their nature, and this was my second admonition, so I will not cease on this channel. Thank you also Father for your service in The Lord's name, it is a shame that men close their ears to the truth so easily.

[MrJayguess]

As a non-Catholic looking on, and who is married to an Anglican female priest, those of you on this page who are crying out 'abomination', heresy and so on would make me laugh if your words were not so sad and objectionable. Sitting back as an outsider you do not realise just how much you sound like the Pharisees of Jesus' day crying out 'blasphemy' and so bogged down in Church rules that you miss the point entirely.

This is about LOVE SERVICE and CALLING. God bless them in their ministries.

[frbjoernLA]

@MrJayguess Sorry that you are offended by the objections to this blasphemous charade of a group of silly women making a mockery of the Church of God. If they want to be "Ministeresses" in some non Catholic tradition that's between them and Almighty God. But to try to denigrate the the sanctity of Holy Orders in clear violation of the teaching of sacred Scripture is another thing. I am sure you will notice that this blasphemous Floor Show did not take place in a Catholic Church building !

[MrJayguess]

@frbjoernLA Your condescending tone calling these women 'silly' says far more about you than your apology, whch is negated by your continued rant. As for being a violation of scripture, I have yet to meet any misogynistic RC that can point me to any scripture that says women cannot be priests as we know them today. For one thing, the priesthood as we know it did not even exist in Biblical times. Howwever, female church leaders and presiders at the Eucharist certainly did.

[frbjoernLA]

@MrJayguess My comment was not intended to be condescending or insulting to normal women. It was intended to be a rebuke to a group of disrespectful silly Feminine Clowns trying to play the role of a man in an obvious Non Conformist Chapel. If they want to blaspheme Almighty God that has to be between them and our Lord. But if they want to pawn off their blasphemous Floor Show of as a Catholic liturgy. Then every Christian has an obligation to defend the Faith once delivered to the Saints!

[MrJayguess]

@frbjoernLA cont...We know that Lydia, Priscilla, Phoebe and many others were Church leaders. Lydia, as the head of household, would have presided at the Eucharist in her house Church. The Fractio Panis fresco of the 2nd century shows clearly a woman presiding at the Eucharist. It was only when men took over (late 2nd-3rd C) that the idea of 'priesthood' as we know it developed. As for not taking part in a RC Church, that is irrelevant. Isn't the Holy Spirit at work everywhere?

[frbjoernLA]

@MrJayguess The only thing we know for sure about the Holy Women you mentioned is that they were normal Christians committed to our Lord Jesus and they would not have violated His will. The Scriptures do not teach that they presided over Holy Communion. The Word of God is very clear on the matter. Where are you getting your information from? The sacerdotal Priesthood is a New Testament continuation of the ancient Priesthood instituted by God! Yes the Holy Spirit is everywhere! Thank God!

[MrJayguess]

@frbjoernLA Violated His will? Show me ONE passage of scripture that states that Christ (a) refused to ordain a woman,(b) ever disrespected a woman and (c) even ordained a man for that matter! The scriptures do not 'teach' feminine presidency but neither do they teach purgatory, the assumption, perpetual virginal state and immaculate conception of Mary or papal infallibility. However history and archaeology certainly DO give us evidence of feminine leadership in the early Church.

[MrJayguess]

@MrJayguess Finally if you state that the Holy Spirit is at work everywhere then for you personally to declare these women as 'clowns' just because they do not fit in with a blinkered arcahic male-dominated view of the Church (despite the early Church being VERY different from the modern RC Church) is second-guessing the work of the Holy Spirit. Neither you nor I have the authority to declare the Holy Spirit is not at work in this service. We will know the work of the Spirit by it fruits (cont)

[MrJayguess]

@frbjoernLA cont... And for many women clergy the fruits of the Spirit as as clear, valid and evident as male clergy. And neither you nor I have the authority to delcare unilaterally where and when the Holy Spirit is not at work. Maybe as far as Christ is concerned you are the blasphemer by not accepting women as equal to men as stated by Paul in Galatians 3.28?

[janoi33]

siete solo un branco di ignoranti convinti di una religione civile e decatente......grazie a Dio non sono più fondamen......cioè ...ehm....volevo dire cattolico....

[janoi33]

chi ha commentato questo video deprecandolo è veramente malato

[137Coolhandluke]

This is NOT Catholic.

[paulsalvato82765]

these times are a abomination to our lord jesus christ these new laws from present times are not original . twisting the faith is a sin a man can be a priest not a women you hypacrites.

[bert826]

SACRILEGE!SACRILEGE!SACRILEGE!­SACRILEGE!SACRILEGE!SACRILEGE!­

[bt804d]

heresy heresy heresy

[aHendy92]

An absolute abomination. This is what happens when feminists infiltrate the Church and bad theology comes to fruition...

[bebetonguga]

This is a huge lie. Many women disguised and palying to be men. Since they don't enjoy being women, they want to play something else... But it's not a good thing to play with God and the Grace. FIRST COMMANDMENT!!!!! Ever heard of it???

[stbridgetscross]

THEY HAVE EXCHANGED THE WORD OF GOD FOR A LIE.

[stbridgetscross]

this witch is making it up as she goes along. why does she keep saying rc as a way of justifying her sacreleges. Both she and her cronies have wandered so far from the teachings of the church that she is not rc let alone apriest. Its time those in authority take control ,and kick these heretics out , WHY if they are so against the church instituted by jesus , do they cling on and live such a lie. VIVA JESUS AND HIS CHURCH VIVA MARY OUR MOTHER

[davepinoy]

Protestants can do all their liberal and unchristian ways....For thats what they are, a private church out of their own individual beliefs and interpretation of the only authentic christian church...the Roman Catholic Church.

[harveytg]

Maybe they'll get tired soon and start playing doctor's and nurses or soldiers or something. We can only hope.

[shutdownlasemedinc]

What a mockery of the TRUE CHURCH! All you could find was a Methodist Church to do this in? How very sad you women are.

[zorro4546]

dear harveytg! why did you said "Enjoy your dressing up games, ladies."?

i thought you could understand that i am a man!and i thought that you could understand that church is not a game,any church is a church-orthodox,catholic,luthe­ran-it is a churches,and we must live in peace and in love despite distinctions.i hope you understood me!sorry for my bad english!

[harveytg]

In the Orthodox Church it is expected that priests grow a beard to represent Christ more fully. In the Catholic Church we only ask that the ordination is performed by a valid Bishop who has not been excommunicated. Simple really. Enjoy your dressing up games, ladies. Holy Mother Church will welcome you back. Sadly you will have to leave all that pride behind.

[zorro4546]

i think that it is not the Catholic church,but it is one of set of protestant churches,because this doctrine of womens ordination was created by Martin Luther and by John Kalvin.I am the russian orthodox,but i know all about history of christianity -orthodox,catholic,lutheran

sorry for my bad english!

[ElijahsSpirit]

I am a Catholic Woman, and know Woman have a role in life, and with God , very spicial role and it is not to be a Father /Priest. shame on those rebellious souls, Lucifer was head of all rebels.

[SuperPricil]

I'm thinking of Mary the mother of Jesus. She was the one chosen by God. During her life she never thought of having an authority or a position in the synagogue or church, she knew the dispositions . She never complained.

But today, many women want a place of authority or a position in the church. It is not ridicolous ?

[chikeefer]

@nilofc Have you heard of "Lex orandi, lex credendi"? Practice and doctrine are inseparable. The RC branch of the church has regularly shifted theologies and practices across the centuries. And then recently you false so-called "traditionalists" have somehow decided that some little frozen-in-amber moment in the life of the church is the "way it has always been." And the RC hierarchy, in Orwellian fashion, then claims that it has always been that way, too. Think for yourself... LOL

[hiroshi2020]

Ridiculous! Absolutely ridiculous!

[chikeefer]

Rome has come around on much of what Martin Luther pointed out as a problem: justification by faith, liturgy in the vernacular, altar facing the people, communing in both kinds, priesthood of believers (though Rome persists in saying there is a "different" priesthood for some)...among others. Lutheran Christians realized God's call to women more than 35 years ago, and Rome will come around on this, too, purely as a matter of necessity. Let's just hope it doesn't take them 500 years this time.

[nilofc]

@chikeefer Where did you get this ridiculous idea that the Catholic Church changes its doctrines?

Please distinguish about doctrine and practice.

[nilofc]

EXCOMMUNICATED.

The Vatican declared that any women who attempt “ordination” or any bishops who attempt to “ordain” women are automatically excommunicated from the Church by their actions. The decree from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith is said to be absolute, universal and immediately effective.

[chikeefer]

@nilofc

Your point would be....? Has the Church never reversed itself? Of course it has! Mass in the vernacular, communion in both kinds...need I go on?

[nilofc]

@chikeefer The Catholic Church can change its practice but not doctrine. Men-only clergy is a doctrine which cannot be changed.

Pope John Paul II has even said that the Church does not even have the authority to ordain women.

These radical feminists who thinks they cn be priests are deranged and needs to realize that they are excommunicated.

[Bing7782]

They can play dress up all they want.... they aren't priests.

[coldlittle]

You Are Not Priests, You Are Heretics.

[MenechemShaul]

@coldlittle Explain why Peter calls us all Priests in his first Epistle?!

[coldlittle]

@MenechemShaul You misunderstand the Bible. The Bible is the highest authority on which to build the church. According to 1 Timothy 3:1-2 "...if a MAN desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. A bishop then must be blameless, THE HUSBAND OF ONE WIFE,..." also 1 Timothy 2:12 states "But I suffer (permit) not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man...

[nilofc]

@coldlittle The Bible is not the highest authority. 1 Tim 3:15. Read about that.

[MenechemShaul]

Its one thing to be in clergy as a woman but tell, me are you going to be true to G-d's word as Junia (The only Female Apostle mentioned in Scripture), Priscilla ([also known as Prisca] a female Pastor) and Phoebe (a Female Deacon) as they were or are you going to be liberal minded as the Church of England, the United 'Church' of Canada and others?! Also are you going to go by G-d's word or the Idolatrous Cannon Law/Vatican Traditions? Further more Scripture teaches we are all Priest and Saints!

[WeepingStellaMaris]

@MenechemShaul The doctrine of the Mystical Body of Christ, which is the Church, (1) was first taught us by the Redeemer Himself. Illustrating as it does the great and inestimable privilege of our intimate union with so exalted a Head, this doctrine by its sublime dignity invites all those who are drawn by the Holy Spirit to study it, and gives them, in the truths of which it proposes to the mind, a strong incentive to the performance of such good works as are conformable to its teaching.

[MenechemShaul]

Its one thing to be in clergy as a woman but tell, me are you going to be true to G-d's word as Junia (The only Female Apostle mentioned in Scripture), Priscilla ([also known as Prisca] a female Pastor) and Phoebe (a Female Deacon) as they were or are you going to be liberal minded as the Church of England, the United 'Church' of Canada and others?! Also are you going to go by G-d's word or the Idolatrous Cannon Law/Vatican Traditions? Further more Scripture teaches we are all Priest and Saints!

[MenechemShaul]

@MenechemShaul Looks like you are nothing more than loopy liberals, whats the Idea of having a Dyke (Barbra) being ordained when according to Sacred Scripture Sexually Immorals, weather Straight or Gay have no right being in leadership?!

[luvpinas123]

Anathema

[08dArRyL08]

there is nothing roman nor catholic in this video... women are not for the priesthood...

[nilofc]

@08dArRyL08 True. These women ar deluded. Lacking in understanding the true teaching of the Church....that is why they are excommunicated

[kscatholic]

First, even if a woman were to go through the ordination ceremony by a legitimate MALE bishop, no sacramental character is conferred. By its very circumstances, the "ordination" is invalid and does not occur. No woman can be called a Catholic priest. It simply is a contradiction in terms. Jesus did not call women to be his Apostles, he called men. Our Lord said himself, You have not chosen me, I have chosen you. The issue of woman's ordinations was settle right there.

[MenechemShaul]

@WeepingStellaMaris Your cult is an abomination in the site of the LORD!

[WeepingStellaMaris]

@MenechemShaul Cult? What a liberal notion! Calling the SSPX a cult...Shame on you.

[MenechemShaul]

@WeepingStellaMaris Shame on you! I am by no means a Liberal, I am very Orthodox when it comes to following the WORD OF GOD over the notions of fallible men! BTW, The pope does not Speak Scripture, God only Speaks Scripture! You listen to men I listen to God via Scripture! I go to a Christ Centred God honouring Church where the Word of God directs our Doctrine (2 Timothy 3:10-17). Romans 16 makes it quite clear women were in Leadership! Phoebe, Junia and Priscilla! You need to go and study!

[WeepingStellaMaris]

@MenechemShaul Arise, O Lord, and judge your own cause. Remember your reproaches to those who are filled with foolishness all through the day. Listen to our prayers, for foxes have arisen seeking to destroy the vineyard whose winepress you alone have trod. When you were about to ascend to your Father, you committed the care, rule, and administration of the vineyard, an image of the triumphant church, to Peter, as the head and your vicar and his successors.

[MenechemShaul]

@WeepingStellaMaris You Do realize that Peter was not the First Bishop of Rome do you not?! The only Time Peter was ever in Rome was when he was Crucified upside down! Peter was the head of the Church Universal, yes but not the Roman Catholic Cult! You have yet to prove me wrong and now you are trying to curse me! I will do what the LORD Yeshua taught, I will shake your dust from my feet (Matthew 10)!

[WeepingStellaMaris]

@MenechemShaul The Roman Pontiff, the successor of Peter, is the vicar of Christ over all the churches of the entire world, instituted by Christ Himself in blessed Peter.

[MenechemShaul]

@WeepingStellaMaris How can this be so when the term Pontificus Maximus was not around until Constantine which he got from the Pagan Temple Leadership? You have yet to prove that Peter became Bishop of Rome, which is what the Pope is! You are again twisting words and bypassing the question! There is no evidence to prove Peter as 'Pope'!

[MenechemShaul]

@MenechemShaul You are a typical Catholic when face with tough questions, you do not know how to answer! You Skirt the questions and thus cannot be taken seriously!

[WeepingStellaMaris]

@MenechemShaul TU ES PETRUS ET SUPER HANC PETRUM AEDIFICABO ECCLESIAM MEAM!

[MenechemShaul]

@WeepingStellaMaris I'm done with you who is nothing more that Ignorant, Arrogant, Immature and uneducated!

[MenechemShaul]

@WeepingStellaMaris BTW, The 'sacrifice' of the mass goes against Hebrews 9-10! Christ was offered once and for all time! You 'Representing' this is heresy in itself nothing the Apostles ever did!

[WeepingStellaMaris]

@MenechemShaul The divine Redeemer has so willed it that the priestly life begun with the supplication and sacrifice of His mortal body should continue without intermission down the ages in His Mystical Body which is the Church. That is why He established a visible priesthood to offer everywhere the clean oblation which would enable men from East to West, freed from the shackles of sin, to offer God that unconstrained and voluntary homage which their conscience dictates.

[MenechemShaul]

@WeepingStellaMaris Would you stop feeding me Catholic Bullshit and actually show me what Scripture! Christ Died once and for all time! The Sacred Memorial of the LORD's Table is just that a Remembrance and Paul as well as the LORD Yeshua makes this quite clear! You are highly ignorant and your arguments do not hold water as you do not back yourself up with sources of your comments(I do), you do not have a solid grounding in Sacred Scripture nor in the Catechism/History! I have been in seminary!

[WeepingStellaMaris]

@MenechemShaul "Offer himself often"... Christ shall never more offer himself in sacrifice, in that violent, painful, and bloody manner, nor can there be any occasion for it: since by that one sacrifice upon the cross, he has furnished the full ransom, redemption, and remedy for all the sins of the world. But this hinders not that he may offer himself daily in the sacred mysteries in an unbloody manner, for the daily application of that one sacrifice of redemption to our souls.

[vichobreakthewall]

This is not catholic...

[burkardhanis]

if Our Blessed Lady was not a priest, no women should even consider it worth wanting. Not only that, they cannot ontologically be an alter Christi....please ladies, imitate Our Lady and the other great Saints of the Church like Mother Teresa. Get over your 1960's attitudes.

[ebolingUtube]

This is not a Catholic church. No church can make up their own rules and actually be Catholic.

[thedabick]

that are part of an organization , but not of the roman catholic church.

Vatican expelled this organization called "woman catholic priest"

[phati129]

illitigimate church, this is horrible and an abomination to Christ and his Church! Anathema!

[MenechemShaul]

NO PRIESTS UNTIL THE FORMATION OF THE CATHOLIC CULT! ACCORDING TO PETER WE ARE ALL PRIESTS JUNIA (ROMANS 16) WAS AN APOSTLE, THERE WAS NO POPE UNTIL CONSTANTINE AND PETER WAS NOT THE FIRST POPE! I AM FOR WOMEN IN MINISTRY, I AM AN EX CATHOLIC WHO IS WELL VERSED IN CATHOLIC DOCTRINE AND CHURCH HISTORY AND I AM A MESSIANIC JEW (MY BIRTH MUM IS JEWISH SHE WAS RAPED AS A TEEN THUS I WAS ADOPTED BY AND RAISED BY CATHOLICS). IF ANYONE WANTS TO CHALLENGE ME OR ASK ME QUESTIONS BE MY GUEST!

[cyberslayer002]

These women are NOT Catholic!

[rgk55410]

The "women priests were ordained on the Feast of All Saints? Liturgical color in the Roman Catholic Church for that particular feast day is white. This lady "priest-celebrant" is wearing a red chasuble.

[gunnyb1973]

Why is it that if this is so "right" that it must be "validated" with a long explaination.

[MONTYMELLAS]

I feel so sorry for these deluded old ladies in fancy dress... they havent much to do in their retirements so aside for provideing ofr a cat or 4 they decided to do something special, utter nonesscence but shame Great entertainment though!

[ukphotolady]

We are all children of God if we have clothed ourselves in Christ , because he is our Father in heaven, and the fact is that in Him we are neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female

see Galatians 3:26-28

[jingwu42]

how disgusting

[MenechemShaul]

@jingwu42 How Natural! Junia, a Female Apostle, Phoebe a Female Deacon and Priscilla a Female Elder/Preacher in Romans 16! You are highly ignorant!

[PiedPuyper]

Trapped door opens>>> faux women priest falls through.

[Hkepfer]

True then, true now.

While women prepared the last supper, none attended.

Theodora was an empress, not a bishop.

While there some tradition of women only communion services; there is history nor early church documentation of female priests or bishops.

Also true, early christian women found freedom in virginity and rights in monogamy; further there is a Paul / NT admonishment about women not being in a leadership roles.

Sad to say but this so not orthodox nor catholic as to be heresy. Peace.

[80sete80]

questo assurdità non merita commento! PENTITEVI! state distruggendo Nostro Signore Gesù Cristo!

[iotaunam1]

A protestant ordaining protestants in a protestant Church - Nothing Catholic about this abomination.

Tertullian (206AD):

"It is not permitted for a woman to speak in the church [1 Cor 14:3435], but neither [is it permitted her] . . . to offer, nor to claim to herself a lot in any manly function, not to say sacerdotal office"

[MenechemShaul]

@iotaunam1 First of all you are taking this Scripture out of context and I challenge you by referring to Romans 16 where Paul mentions by name Three Female Leaders in the Church, Junia, Priscilla (AKA Prisca) and Phoebe! Secondly according to Peter's first Epistle we are all Priests!

[iotaunam1]

@MenechemShaul

First of all, I was not quoting this verse - it was Tertullian: argue with him over his exegesis. But for the record, he does not take it out of context as you suggest. What context exactly would you apply to this veres to make it say the opposite to its clear unambiguos meaning: "It is not permitted for a woman to speak in the church etc". I await your exegesis of this verse.

[iotaunam1]

@MenechemShaul

Now to address the verse you cite which you suggest "proves" that women were ordained. This is clearly nonsense and idiotic in the extreme. Firstly, Christ appointed NO female Apostles. Secondly there is no woman EVER ordained in the NT, NOR called Presbyter (Priest).

Pricilla was merely a "patroness", like Lydia and she and her husband provided their house for the Church. She is not a Priest no ordained, nor leading etc.

[iotaunam1]

@MenechemShaul

Junia provided the same - a house where the Church met. She was the same as Pricilla.

Phoebe was not ordained either. I assume you imply that since Paul used the word "diakonon" here that she was a "deacon" as understood by the Church: well youre wrong again. Anyone with a cursory knowledge of Greek will know that the word is used in the generic sense: it means; Servant - thats all.

[iotaunam1]

@MenechemShaul

Thus you are completely wrong in even suggetsing that women were ever ordained. Scripture teaches otherwise, the Church fathers all agree and Apostolic Tradition has always maintained the Purity of this doctrine. Only Men can be ordained because Christ instituted the Priesthood that way. You try to use isogesis to put what you want - what suits you - into the text, against its clear meaning.

[MenechemShaul]

@iotaunam1 You are misunderstanding 1 Peter 2: 'you yourselves,as living stones,are being built into a spiritual house for a holy priesthood to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.'(Holman Christian Standard Bible).Paul lays down the foundations for Eldership,Deaconate and the position of Preacher and Overseer(Bishop)which technically speaking is what a Priest is in your cult,a Pastor/Elder!You are the one who is not only ignorant but arrogant!Romans 16 backs me up!

[iotaunam1]

@MenechemShaul

Also, regarding the Sacrafice: It was once and for all. This is Catholic dogma. The mass is a re-presentation of the SAME sacrafice- there are no other.

Regarding the "we are all priests" - yes we are all priests (small p) as in the priesthood of all believers. But we are clearly NOT ALL Priests (capital P) who recieved the Power of Orders through the Laying on of Hands, as Christ instituted. This is the Biblical Doctrine, and you are out of your depth even bringing it up.

[MenechemShaul]

@iotaunam1 THE MASS IS BLASPHEMOUS! ITS THE SAME THING AS WHEN WE JEWS HAD THE TEMPLE AND THE KOHANIM WERE SERVING AT THE ALTER! You calling it a representation as well as a Sacrifice goes 100% against holy writ! It is not Biblical doctrine!Calling it so is twisting the word of G-d and Scripture does not support your claims!You are out of your depth!Explain why when Peter was writing to the church's he said in 1 Peter,that we are all Priests!Not all are Elders, Pastors,missionaries or Overseers.

[iotaunam1]

@MenechemShaul

All you can do is repeat what I said to you: You are out of your depth. You further prove this by your nonsensical accuasations. I challenge you to debate these issues indepth by PM -I will not even attempt it in these comment boxes. I have explained the legitimate understanding of the priesthood of all believer,s and the difference between the Ordained. Catholicism is the ONLY Biblical faith, and you are a heretic who rejects the clear meaning of Scripture.

[MenechemShaul]

@iotaunam1 I have given you concisive evidence, you have not once given me an intelligant rebuttal nor explained Paul's words regarding, Phoebe, Priscilla and Junia. Again You are the one who is out of his depths! You Twist the word of God and you provide me with no Evidence to back up anything!

[sasuke3141]

@MenechemShaul What religion are you? and can't we be just friends .We both can't hate each other

[iotaunam1]

@MenechemShaul

I assume you mean "conclusive" evidence? If so, then you clearly haven't. Anybody with a brain, capable of thinking, will see that you used isogesis to try and prove that women were ordained, when I cleared showed that the contrary is True. Go back and read my Post about these women who were named and read it -perhaps you missed it: It refutes your heretical position. It is you who twists the Scriptures to your own destruction!

[iotaunam1]

@MenechemShaul

Also, I see that you, like the majority of protestant sects, have chosen not to take up my offer of an indepth debate by PM. I will prove (from Scripture alone) that Catholicsm is the ONLY truly Biblical Faith, and that your sect (and whoever founded it) was/is in heresy. You say you want more evidence: then take up my offer and discuss it indepth or move onto someone who is ignorant of their own faith and debate with them in comment boxes!

[MenechemShaul]

@iotaunam1 When you twist my words publicly and Twist Scripture as well as Historical facts as well, and as I have said before I refuse to talk to anyone who twists the WORD OF GOD ALMIGHTY!

[iotaunam1]

@MenechemShaul

You also provide the same cop out as the other sects. You have no way of knowing INFALLIBLY that you even have the correct Bible and Canon - Book and verse, word for word - so it really means nothing when you accuse me of "twisting" verses, which anyone with half a brain will see is nonsense. You shouldnt be arguing over something which you clearly know nothing about.

[MenechemShaul]

@iotaunam1 Stop with the BS, You do not provide me with sources for your quotes, I do you have yet to prove anything. Need I point out all of your cults fallacies! I'm done with you who is nothing more that Ignorant, Arrogant, Immature and uneducated!

[iotaunam1]

@MenechemShaul

Thats right - ignore the arguments - refuse an indepth debate.

Your refusal to discuss indepth is very telling. I need not say anymore - everyone can see how you avoid a real debate.

[singapore7773]

@iotaunam1 there is no debate. ROME has spoken, there is no debate

[iotaunam1]

@singapore7773

I really don't know why you're telling me this. I have been refuting this heretical nonsense being promoted by protestants - you need to read my posts.

[singapore7773]

@iotaunam1 sorry i meant to comment to the video and accidently sent it to u. sorry

[nilofc]

@iotaunam1 Go argue with God....  you can play priests...but you are not priests.

[iotaunam1]

@nilofc

I assume you did not mean to respond to me.

[chikeefer]

@nilofc

Perhaps you're the one who needs to argue with God. If God calls someone, who are you to say God can't do what God wants?

[chikeefer]

@iotaunam1

Hilarious to quote Tertullian, himself declared a heretic. He joined the Montanists/New Prophecy movement, criticized precisely because it had women leaders. The very fact he was condemning the practice of sacerdotal office is proof that women were exercising priestly function in the church from the earliest times. You don't condemn something and pass laws against it unless it is happening. :-) This was written when he wanted to come back to another branch of the Church.

[iotaunam1]

@chikeefer

You are obviously clueless. I could have quoted from any of the Church fathers or saints on the issue but I quoted this becuase it is well known and sums up Christs teaching accurately. Martin Luther affirmed the Trinity: does that make it wrong because he was a heretic: certainly not - not when he is inline with Church teaching on the issue. Your argument is illogical. Also, just becuase abuses were happening does not make them licit or valid. Women cannot recieve orders- period.

[iotaunam1]

A protestant ordaining protestants in a protestant Church - Nothing Catholic about this abomination.

Tertullian (206AD):

"It is not permitted for a woman to speak in the church [1 Cor 14:3435], but neither [is it permitted her] . . . to offer, nor to claim to herself a lot in any manly function, not to say sacerdotal office"

[SAYYOURROSARY]

St. Augustine (c. 413): Therefore, because you have been made members of Christ I must warn you; for I fear dangers for you, and not alone from those who are pagans, not alone from the Jews, and not so much from the heretics as from bad Catholics. Choose from among the people of God those you would imitate. For if you wish to imitate the multitude, you shall not then be among the few who shall enter in by the narrow way. (S.S.G.F., Vol. 2, p. 225.)

[lovencare62]

Sorry, but I don't believe it allow womenpreist in roman catholic church I thought these are protestants. we have nuns but not womanpreists

[stancan2]

Just what we need as Catholics. More division , by our own within the Church. Thanks, It just makes defending our faith to non-Catholic more difficult. Women as priest will never, ever be.

[iotaunam1]

Women cannot receive Holy Orders! This mockery is an abomination before God, who will judge you on the last day.

Stop trying to destroy the Church, ruin doctrine & make Dogmas subjective! If you reject Christ's Church, then leave. You have already seperated yourself from the Body of Chirst, by this sacreligious act of Apostasy!!

[PhillipDeViene]

How unscriptural and antichristian is that! These "Ordinations" of women come along, because they do´n´t understand deeper connections....

[KonradAdenauer]

If you are basing your case for women's ordination on the traditions and law of the Church, what sense could it possibly make to knowingly incur excommunication latae sententiae? When you are arguing that ordination of women is licit, doesn't it hurt your case when you knowingly separate yourself from the Church?

Are they so narcissistic that they NEED TO BE PRIESTS, even if it hurts their cause in the long run?

Just some questions.

[meggasimonn]

these women are crazy

[dmpav]

The Episcopal Church welcomes you! Especially as they nee dthe members...

[KonradAdenauer]

dmpav

Exactly, the very "progressive" Catholics want to institute women's ordination along with a list of other changes. Well, there is already a church like that. It's called the Episcopal Church. And look how well it's doing.

Don't people pay attention when they are advocating changes . . .

Wait. Never mind. Just answered my own question.

[catholicam]

THIS IS SO NOT CATHOLIC... GOOD LAUGH though

[lelstro]

Yea, the so are not ordained. If they truly understood the the Sacraments then they would most understand that this is completely invalid!

[MTheChequeGuy]

We give thanks to a protestant church for hosting our "priestess" movement. Let's get this right! Priestesses don't have a place in our church.

[kpman]

Protestants. Get over it thats what you are. Try praying to the Holy Spirit!

[soccermagic88]

They claim to be Catholic but aren't even in a Catholic Church!!!