Here,they don't seem as honest as TG.A contrived aesthetic with this video.platitudes instead of real theoretic concerns..Mental illness,homicide,hypnosis,gender theory,Marx they include all this but hee it feels like they just want to sell anotion of a "band" I can't disrespect all they did but this "seems " sold!
is it just me or does the skeleton at 5:06 look almost exactly like the one that appears on the wumpscut dried blood of gomorrha CD? What is that picture from anyway?
I'm glad to have found this interview. I had no idea they released a DVD a few years ago. I grew up listening to Nettwerk Productions music in Vancouver - Skinny Puppy, MOEV, Tear Garden, Chris & Cosey and SPK. Brilliant band.
I have to agree with Dudley; Graeme chased the money, he took the easy option. From Leichenschrei to Junk Funk was a step too far and then further. Sure the Adolf Wolfi album was beautiful but his career since has withdrawn from that embrace of the outsider and instead he has been sucked into the money. He could've done so much more.
Sure he sold out. Certainly one's interests can develop andchange,but when a guy in an industtrial/experimental band who spent time ranting against capitalism and the cultural "Cathedral Of Death" starts cutting disco mixes and then composing soundtracks for Hollywood product, well, he's opened wide for legitimatge criticism.
@semitelfeletem Agreed, but TG doesn't, and I let him have his say. He'd been wanting to get it out of his system for a long time. I personally say "hats off" to Graeme... CaTV
Personally, saying that SPK copycated TG is like saying Mayhem stole from Black Sabbath
I've listened to both SPK (Only their industrial stuff) & TG, and although TG is obviously the better group, SPK, in my eyes, took the basic TG sound & gave it a much stronger "Factory/Refinery" sound, in which, ultimately, sounds more industrial overall
Though TG had a more industrial sound live, SPK translated the industrial sound better in their studio recordings
Interesting interview, but no mention of Brian "Lustmord" Williams(?). As a lifelong SPK freak, it'd be easy for me to pick apart this project, but I do appreciate the effort to set straight the history somewhat and to separate that Metal Dance bullshit from the SPK legacy.
Your live show/strobe sequences look great. However, gotta say, the animated tombstone/intertitles and random voice modulation are pretty cheesy. Whatever. I'm going to buy it anyhow.
@Toestubber Thanks. TG insisted that I disguise both his voice and appearance, and he only wished to speak about his own involvement with the group. I might get around to doing a series one day, from each member's perspective - those who are still alive in any case... CaTV
Hey Cathy, this is my new account since terminaltoy went belly-up. Tell Dom we need him over here and that Murphy and I are working on a song called "Gearing up for Domination".
"Information overload" Asolutely! Back in 1980 when SPK recorded IOU they could not have anticipated the rise of the internet. I also thing Tone Generator had a good point,when he said about graeme revell not changing the name. I think he should have when SPK went in than 'commercial' direction,it would have been in the best interest not only to the bands underground industrial history, but also for their commercial acceptance. Thanks for this upload by the way.
I talked to Graeme Revell on several occasions. In 1983 he was still charmed with experimental music. He then started to make Metal Dance-music and saw him twice in Melbourne, with a Junk Yard rhythm-section, which I liked a lot. 2 and 3 years later, I talked to him after 2 dutch performance, and he was asking me, why he shouldn't earn a living/money with his music. 'Cabaret Voltaire, Laibach are doing the same.' Masterpiece Zamia Lehmanni did shut up all critics in his grand farewell before LA.
i'm suprised that he did not mention 'throbbing gristle' during this interview as SPK were in essence throbbing gristle copycats! -(Oh,that comment will turn a few heads). They were great though. IOU is one of the best industrial albums ever in my opinion. And Leichenschrei was great too.
taoist, you`re the onlyone speaking sense, yet you`ve got three thumbs down! I loved both bands in the late 70`s, early 80`s, but it was obvious at the time that surgical penis klinik took their inspiration from thee originators TG
Taken to extremes, everybody is a copycat going back to the first caveman artiste.
There are "proto industrial" bands. I don't see SPK as one of them, though they followed the same pathetic road of most industrial-type bands--going techno. Neubauten is a band frequently mislabeled as industrial. It is a "minimalist" band.
taken to the ultimate extreme, there is no such thing as copying because everything is one/nothing (metaphysically speaking).
I don't care much for the label 'Industrial' but i do find the original aesthetic interesting. as for SPK, they had interesting aesthitcs too. But the similarity between 'Infomation overload unit' and TG's music is undeniable.
Right, I had meant to say "glad the one who sold them out was not Tone Generator." I got the names confused since they both seem to signify band leadership.
i dont like it when people are angry about what graeme did! is it forbidden to earn money? he developed himself and his music - why not? and i think a lot of his soundtrack works are very interesting as well. i think its silly when some people talk about him like the judas of industrial music...
I'm not angry with grame revel for 'selling out'. I just think that the 'synth pop' period (breathless, etc.) is absolute garbage (and i like synth pop!). this was not a development in his music and it had little to do with the original aesthetic of SPK...
@furimmer777 yeah breathless and that weak gold and poison(?) album were awful! but i love metal dance / will to power and i thought some of machine age voodoo was quite good, but a lot of it wasn't good synthpop either. the synth tracks on auto dafe are great, and i love the earlier industrial stuff too, the first 2 albums. i also got an album released in '88 called songs of byzantine flowers which is great too. don't know any of his soundtrack stuff tho
SPK - far better than that useless el stinko, le crapo, band NIN... Isn't SPK such a fuzzy nice little band that you would want to bring over to mommy and daddy for some nice din din??? OK so how can I get the SPK DVD??? I've seen a lot of vidies they've done and most are here on youtube...
This is Tone Generator's shadow (all he would permit), filmed on a grave stone, in a Sydney Cemetery a few months ago. You can ask Graeme Revell and Tesco records, Germany (which might be easier) if it's really him. What, by the way, makes you think you know more about the history of SPK than one of its members?
sorry maybe i wasnt clear on my comment about spk hitory. only i remember seeing them ages ago (80's) in sheffield andhave heard nothing since untill i stumbled across this vid.. i no nothing of there history
I have no doubt that it is indeed Dominik in the DVD. I have a similar affliction to his (although nowhere near as severe) and I can imagine he was probably quite self-conscious about appearing on camera.
Hej man , come to Poland and U will see a real shit industrial.
PS U dont know a dates of records, please go to (sqol)fabric. Why are U talking some bbbbbbbshit? man!?????????????????????????( U need a more education....)
Also- I appreciate the dig at Revelle at the end of the interview. Late-period SPK was unlistenable to me. Leichenshrei is one of my all-time favorite albums (of any genre) though.
It is to be released by Tesco Records in Germany. I'll send you a message when it comes out. Thanks for you appreciation of my ITV with TG. There are two more bonus items on the DVD, plus a link to the new website which we are currently building. It should be heavily laden by September, but will continue to evolve after the release of the DVD.
You can buy the digitally re-mastered Despair at Tesco Germany.
NOTAMARKinc 1 year ago
anyone know which version of despair (the song) is in this vid
smileyvigilante333 1 year ago
can someone give a list of songs in this vid i would really appreciate it
smileyvigilante333 1 year ago
Here,they don't seem as honest as TG.A contrived aesthetic with this video.platitudes instead of real theoretic concerns..Mental illness,homicide,hypnosis,gender theory,Marx they include all this but hee it feels like they just want to sell anotion of a "band" I can't disrespect all they did but this "seems " sold!
lovesGenet 1 year ago
is it just me or does the skeleton at 5:06 look almost exactly like the one that appears on the wumpscut dried blood of gomorrha CD? What is that picture from anyway?
jamschnitter 2 years ago 2
It is it!
Well, if you look at their both topics.. It's probably a holocaust victim or a found skeleton who died in a strange way or something..
gombie 2 years ago
It's probably something from the media, maybe a skeleton from the Vietnam era or something judging from the bamboo. It's an awesome image.
jamschnitter 2 years ago
Yes, what is clear is that there is a reason how both of them bumped into it or found it. Exactly like you said.
It must have some kind of story behind it..
gombie 2 years ago
awesome still;
SuperBluehaze 2 years ago
"He tried to give me Syphilis by applying his cock in my sandwich".
renr17 2 years ago 2
@renr17 "They're trying to force me to do abnormal things by working on my spinal cord."
"Put it in my little pocket, nice and warm inside. Ooh it's gone all hard now hasn't it. Come on now, do it harder!"
chrisnoaro1 1 year ago
I'm glad to have found this interview. I had no idea they released a DVD a few years ago. I grew up listening to Nettwerk Productions music in Vancouver - Skinny Puppy, MOEV, Tear Garden, Chris & Cosey and SPK. Brilliant band.
austinblue210 2 years ago
Not a few years ago, but last year, and not "they" but "we"...
NOTAMARKinc 2 years ago
To run to the light, for the light secretly desires darkness, it lusts for it
it does, midnightmaddness, it does.
SuperBluehaze 2 years ago
give me madness that flight to the darkness,
better madness, darkness,
that that flight fro life,
the cure is worse that the disease,
fleet, trygome, streaches branching oh
madness to become animal.
to become women
midnight darkness
madness, moonlight crazy madnesss.
SuperBluehaze 2 years ago
flight midnight flight into darkness;
flight, to fly to the sun
midnight darkness.
hides from the sun;
the cure is worse than the illness,
give me madness, that divine illness.
SuperBluehaze 2 years ago
AWESOME! :-)
EYEmusique 2 years ago
I saw the dvd, it is AWESOME ,, one of the best old skool industrial music bands ever , the live performance is great,,
thiscontrol555 2 years ago
@thiscontrol555 Thank you kindly... CaTV
NOTAMARKinc 1 year ago
I have to agree with Dudley; Graeme chased the money, he took the easy option. From Leichenschrei to Junk Funk was a step too far and then further. Sure the Adolf Wolfi album was beautiful but his career since has withdrawn from that embrace of the outsider and instead he has been sucked into the money. He could've done so much more.
A shame.
Nickfromglasgow 3 years ago
Graeme Revell did not sell out; his interests lay elsewhere, and he did Adolf Wolfli a beautiful homage.
semitelfeletem 3 years ago
Sure he sold out. Certainly one's interests can develop andchange,but when a guy in an industtrial/experimental band who spent time ranting against capitalism and the cultural "Cathedral Of Death" starts cutting disco mixes and then composing soundtracks for Hollywood product, well, he's opened wide for legitimatge criticism.
Dudley1970 3 years ago
re;Dudley1970. Indeed!
taoist77 3 years ago
@semitelfeletem Agreed, but TG doesn't, and I let him have his say. He'd been wanting to get it out of his system for a long time. I personally say "hats off" to Graeme... CaTV
NOTAMARKinc 1 year ago
Personally, saying that SPK copycated TG is like saying Mayhem stole from Black Sabbath
I've listened to both SPK (Only their industrial stuff) & TG, and although TG is obviously the better group, SPK, in my eyes, took the basic TG sound & gave it a much stronger "Factory/Refinery" sound, in which, ultimately, sounds more industrial overall
Though TG had a more industrial sound live, SPK translated the industrial sound better in their studio recordings
Thats my two cents
InsaneJericho66 3 years ago 2
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gombie 2 years ago
Interesting interview, but no mention of Brian "Lustmord" Williams(?). As a lifelong SPK freak, it'd be easy for me to pick apart this project, but I do appreciate the effort to set straight the history somewhat and to separate that Metal Dance bullshit from the SPK legacy.
Your live show/strobe sequences look great. However, gotta say, the animated tombstone/intertitles and random voice modulation are pretty cheesy. Whatever. I'm going to buy it anyhow.
Toestubber 3 years ago
the tombstone is cliché of bullshit.
SELFsufficiently 3 years ago
@Toestubber Thanks. TG insisted that I disguise both his voice and appearance, and he only wished to speak about his own involvement with the group. I might get around to doing a series one day, from each member's perspective - those who are still alive in any case... CaTV
NOTAMARKinc 1 year ago
Hey Cathy, this is my new account since terminaltoy went belly-up. Tell Dom we need him over here and that Murphy and I are working on a song called "Gearing up for Domination".
Jon
doktorsawade 3 years ago
Get a room.
declan3906 3 years ago
go crucify yourself, fuckface
doktorsawade 3 years ago
nonesuch nonsense
semitelfeletem 3 years ago
"Information overload" Asolutely! Back in 1980 when SPK recorded IOU they could not have anticipated the rise of the internet. I also thing Tone Generator had a good point,when he said about graeme revell not changing the name. I think he should have when SPK went in than 'commercial' direction,it would have been in the best interest not only to the bands underground industrial history, but also for their commercial acceptance. Thanks for this upload by the way.
eternalabyssfall 3 years ago 2
I talked to Graeme Revell on several occasions. In 1983 he was still charmed with experimental music. He then started to make Metal Dance-music and saw him twice in Melbourne, with a Junk Yard rhythm-section, which I liked a lot. 2 and 3 years later, I talked to him after 2 dutch performance, and he was asking me, why he shouldn't earn a living/money with his music. 'Cabaret Voltaire, Laibach are doing the same.' Masterpiece Zamia Lehmanni did shut up all critics in his grand farewell before LA.
Devito46 3 years ago 2
thanx for uploading
Leitmotivation 3 years ago
What part did Wilkins place in the band?
pw3uk 3 years ago
bass
doktorsawade 3 years ago
i'm suprised that he did not mention 'throbbing gristle' during this interview as SPK were in essence throbbing gristle copycats! -(Oh,that comment will turn a few heads). They were great though. IOU is one of the best industrial albums ever in my opinion. And Leichenschrei was great too.
taoist77 4 years ago
oh my... you must be either kidding or .. i just don't know what.
goldenhelix 4 years ago
kidding about what? SPK were great? or SPK copying TG? Sorry but both are true!
taoist77 4 years ago
taoist, you`re the onlyone speaking sense, yet you`ve got three thumbs down! I loved both bands in the late 70`s, early 80`s, but it was obvious at the time that surgical penis klinik took their inspiration from thee originators TG
crapidious 3 years ago 2
oh they were not TG copyists.
crudertube 4 years ago
Taken to extremes, everybody is a copycat going back to the first caveman artiste.
There are "proto industrial" bands. I don't see SPK as one of them, though they followed the same pathetic road of most industrial-type bands--going techno. Neubauten is a band frequently mislabeled as industrial. It is a "minimalist" band.
grisflyt 3 years ago
taken to the ultimate extreme, there is no such thing as copying because everything is one/nothing (metaphysically speaking).
I don't care much for the label 'Industrial' but i do find the original aesthetic interesting. as for SPK, they had interesting aesthitcs too. But the similarity between 'Infomation overload unit' and TG's music is undeniable.
taoist77 3 years ago
You guys changed my life. Leichenschrei is a Religious experience.
Thanks for the terror!
binarypackrat 4 years ago
"Graeme Revell turned it into a commercial identity."
I always DID wonder how they went from Leichenschrei to shit like 'metal dance.' Glad to know the guy who sold them out was NOT Operator.
JDanielson86 4 years ago
GR and Operator are one and the same person. Graeme soon fell into interesting territory again when he wrote "Songs of Byzantine Flowers".
NOTAMARKinc 4 years ago
i've been trying to get hold of "songs of byzantine flowers" for MONTHS now! do you have any ideas where i can get hold of it?
robbieandwrighty 4 years ago
I'm sorry, GR and I lost contact when we both moved house/country. Try TESCO Records.
CaTV
NOTAMARKinc 4 years ago
Right, I had meant to say "glad the one who sold them out was not Tone Generator." I got the names confused since they both seem to signify band leadership.
JDanielson86 4 years ago
i dont like it when people are angry about what graeme did! is it forbidden to earn money? he developed himself and his music - why not? and i think a lot of his soundtrack works are very interesting as well. i think its silly when some people talk about him like the judas of industrial music...
Leitmotivation 3 years ago 4
I'm not angry with grame revel for 'selling out'. I just think that the 'synth pop' period (breathless, etc.) is absolute garbage (and i like synth pop!). this was not a development in his music and it had little to do with the original aesthetic of SPK...
furimmer777 3 years ago 5
@furimmer777 yeah breathless and that weak gold and poison(?) album were awful! but i love metal dance / will to power and i thought some of machine age voodoo was quite good, but a lot of it wasn't good synthpop either. the synth tracks on auto dafe are great, and i love the earlier industrial stuff too, the first 2 albums. i also got an album released in '88 called songs of byzantine flowers which is great too. don't know any of his soundtrack stuff tho
chrisnoaro1 1 year ago
but i'm glad you did the interview
InfinityDose 4 years ago
Nice garbageman.
LA1919 4 years ago
SPK - far better than that useless el stinko, le crapo, band NIN... Isn't SPK such a fuzzy nice little band that you would want to bring over to mommy and daddy for some nice din din??? OK so how can I get the SPK DVD??? I've seen a lot of vidies they've done and most are here on youtube...
awaketowhere 4 years ago
plz contact me on spk info.. early spk.. not the later as mentioned on the nterview...
ravenlek 4 years ago
This is Tone Generator's shadow (all he would permit), filmed on a grave stone, in a Sydney Cemetery a few months ago. You can ask Graeme Revell and Tesco records, Germany (which might be easier) if it's really him. What, by the way, makes you think you know more about the history of SPK than one of its members?
NOTAMARKinc 4 years ago
sorry maybe i wasnt clear on my comment about spk hitory. only i remember seeing them ages ago (80's) in sheffield andhave heard nothing since untill i stumbled across this vid.. i no nothing of there history
ravenlek 4 years ago
If I may jump into this conversation... :)
I have no doubt that it is indeed Dominik in the DVD. I have a similar affliction to his (although nowhere near as severe) and I can imagine he was probably quite self-conscious about appearing on camera.
NewWaver80014 4 years ago
why the image makes like a Age of empire pc game scene.:p. afterall SPk is legend industrial band forever.
christinewisdom 4 years ago
Hej man , come to Poland and U will see a real shit industrial.
PS U dont know a dates of records, please go to (sqol)fabric. Why are U talking some bbbbbbbshit? man!?????????????????????????( U need a more education....)
mniamos 4 years ago
in japanese ---- damasareta!!!!
mniamos 4 years ago
FUCK MY PLASMA and DRINK MY ASFALT------thats not a spk
mniamos 4 years ago
Will there be any mention of FACTRIX on this DVD?
satonya 4 years ago
Also- I appreciate the dig at Revelle at the end of the interview. Late-period SPK was unlistenable to me. Leichenshrei is one of my all-time favorite albums (of any genre) though.
smashism 4 years ago
It is to be released by Tesco Records in Germany. I'll send you a message when it comes out. Thanks for you appreciation of my ITV with TG. There are two more bonus items on the DVD, plus a link to the new website which we are currently building. It should be heavily laden by September, but will continue to evolve after the release of the DVD.
NOTAMARKinc 4 years ago
Also-- will there be any "extras" on the DVD besides this interview?
smashism 4 years ago
Yes, it's being duplicated at the moment, and we are working on the accompanying website.
NOTAMARKinc 4 years ago
So stoked for this! Is there a mailing list I can get on so that I can order as soon as it comes out?
smashism 4 years ago
Is this DVD definitely coming out? I can't find any other info on the net. I want this so bad!
smashism 4 years ago
Thank you very much. It's on the new DVD which will be released in September. Just finishing that now. More goodies in store...
NOTAMARKinc 4 years ago
Finally final. Form and Content united. A meta-obit.
terminaltoy 4 years ago