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  • backstab doesnt work..seems like facestab works better than backstab most of the time

  • Disliked for stupidity.

  • lol

    

  • lag, lag, lag, die!

  • there's nothing wrong with the spy or the coding. your internet just sucks.

  • Valve always finds fixes for its games. But they will NEVER find a fix for ping and lag.

  • @Warm1nator no one will....well just buy a better pc. lol

  • there are no problems.. happy now

  • lol he said my apologies

  • You can complain when they fix facestabs.

  • FEAR THE 5000 LIVE HEAVY

  • How can you say that is not a problem. The guy was bleeding and the hits obviously did damage. He was behind him and could see his entire back. This is an issue I encounter daily. PING or not, that was a backstab.

  • Ping: 1

    Spy: 0

  • thats not a problem you a hacker

  • @ghostleader1042 Don't you just love hacking so that you can't backstab? Me too.

  • @Tallest9 Nah he was just lagging didn't you see him jumping back?

  • there ARE occasions where the backstabs are glitched :( But there's also the odd 1 or 2 facestabs that registre as a backstab. More often then not the spy is the one that's f'd by these glitches

  • there are no problems

  • Only lag and bad aim, not the coding.

  • @1992SFA Did you not hear the knife in his back?

  • IM GONNA NEED 5 BACKSTABS FOR THAT ASS.

  • thats not a bug, thats your ping man :P

    the backstab code is glitchy though but not in the way you have shown in the video that is an issue with your PC or your ping, not the game ;)

  • SPY SAPPIN' MAH PING

  • only problem to face now is MS kills -.-

  • well spies backstab isn't so buggy anymore but there are some times when you wont even hit that guy

  • there are no probloms lol

  • theres nothing wrong with it :) u dared me

  • cool story bro

  • There's no problem :D

  • LAGGER!

  • this fail video failed

  • this is always a blast when it happens!

    nothings more fun than stabbing a guy in the back 20 times before he turns around and makes your body into swiss cheese, or random LOLNUBZICANTZAIM thats dominated by half the server comes along and owns you while youre stabbing that heavy.

  • NEW NEMESIS: PING.

  • @Athumb

    or low refresh rate, refresh rate can actually lag u

    lag aint just internets ya know

  • Ping should be the 10 class

  • Backstab are even worse now -_-

  • Ya, they actually have to be at a back now

  • theres nothing wrong there i said it.....

  • Spy: WHY. WON'T. YOU. DIE?

  • You will never be a good tf2 spy and/or player in general am I right?

  • +1 to "Ping pwns you".

  • you win :3

    i never have problems like that <:o could just be my awesome connection and the servers tendancy to kick everyone with a ping over 150

  • I'm gonna be valve right now "... There's nothing wrong with this video, NEXT"

  • There are no problems.Now give me my prize.

  • gentlemen? I think not

  • Why the hell can't this happen to me? Everytime I get even CLOSE to ANY sort of enemy, they ALWAYS turn around and Kill me.

  • yeah this happens too much because if they set it better it would be to good and people would probably get tons of sidestabs and facestabs its better off like that

  • this happened to me once. i had to tsab a heavy 4 times once xD plus, there was a scout shooting at him with FaN, and he didnt die until i had stabbed him 5 times :O bothof us was like WTF.

  • *STAB*

    *STAB*

    'STAB*

    Eh fuck this.

  • I tried this on a Sniper who was against the wall. He saw me, and hit me with a noscope rifle. :(

  • Uugh i'm sorry to say this but this is just a poor connection not vales fault when your stab is 'reguestered' it goes to the hosts computer but by that time it gets back to you (with a bad connection) the heavy moved foward and it miss's.

    The warping backwards is a common sympton of lag you don't move backwards its just moving foward doesn't reguester. i've played tf2 for along time and i've NEVER had this problem sorry to say.

  • you cant hit shoulder you have to hit center of back

    sucks

  • actually as long as you hit the back within 180 degrees it counts as a backstab.

  • I had moments like these....

    *stab**stab**stab**stab**stab*

    *Pyro burns me before I get my proper backstab*

    >:(

  • OLD GLITCH IS OLD

  • @mauricio1gonzalez: Ping is glitch? :)

  • I don't have this problem... :S

  • its because this is old

  • there are no problems

  • I had an epic stab failure on the 360 once ... enemy engie was facing away from me, didn't even know I was there, no one else around, so I took my time getting into position. Knife swings down, nothing happens to him, his sentry blows me to bits, and he never realizes I even existed.

    PC version counts many backstabs as regular knife swings for me, so the victim spins around and whacks me EVEN AFTER the downward-swing insta-kill animation. :( Usually zero damage to them by my swing too.

  • God happens to me all the time :(

  • lol that heavy was a dumbass not seing you uncloak right infront of his eyes! and also wierd bug!

  • this happens 2 me all the time,a clear backstab just doesnt always count,its so retarded,and then you end up dying because the backstabs dont register and the enemy sees you when he shouldve been dead :(

  • I hate when I play on the 360 I stab them in the back but it only does normal damage.

  • PS3 version is even worse. I followd a heavy from his respawn to the final point in dustboawl stage 2, and barely got rid of him. completely oblivious, stabbed him 20 or 30 times. when I finally stabbed him the Pyro got me. -_-

  • He would have died long before that. Though the backstab doesn't register, you still do normal melee damage.

  • No damage registered at all. And I have good connection.

  • If this is true, then VALVe needs to stop giving jars of piss to little kids and start getting their priorities straight.

  • It is fixed now on the PC version, but the PS3 version which I play on has yet to get an update.

  • The PS3 version will never get an update, the XBox360 version will.

  • which is a real shame :(

  • it already got one, but its only to fix some 2-3 glitches.

  • ha the pc one always has updates

  • It's never getting one. It was ported by EA. You guys will never get 1 patch or 1 update, which sucks.

  • Hardly any lag in the video, nothing warped, and the player moved about because he bumped into the heavy constantly

  • Thank you for confirming the facts.

  • Well you are mighty welcome, even if you are being sarcastic.

  • I was being serious lol.

  • I know I've posted 2 other times but this is an end all statement. It isn't a lag issue. The heavy SEEMINGLY jerking forward is caused by the game correcting the Spy being inside the Heavie's character model due to such close proximity. It's a fucked up bug, plain and simple.

  • You can't complain theres a problem with it when your under extreme lag, any accusation while under extreme lag is irrelevant.

  • Lol lag and backstabs being plain broken are 2 different things dude. Also even under lag it's relevant because the point is a spy missing a stab while right behind somebody is just fucking dumb and a clear error on the developers part.

  • Really? Clearly you know. Lag plays a huge roll in the registration of anything in any game. When theres no lag, I have no problem getting backstabs. If you still want to argue that it's Valves fault, YOU make the game.

  • Lol, you and every other fucker talking about lag can go fuck yourself. Especially you since your such an arrogant prick. Whenever I lag I immediately stop playing and restart my computer. So I know for a fact it's not lag related when I experience shit like this.

  • Lag can occur on servers on the servers themselves, not just your internet. Lag happens, you deal with it, you get over it. You obviously know very little about how these things work.

    Lol, I'M arrogant? Try looking at the way your talking to me and everyone else.

  • Yeah lag happens, and you have to get over it. That doesn't mean you can mark this, or ever other problem a player has as lag. Errors due occur in game programming. My point was people keep trying to just push this off to the side like it's not important but it is. Also yes you're an arrogant prick. I'm not arrogant, I just happen to know what the fuck I'm talking about, and express that abrasively, which is my right. I have no time to sugar coat my words for the ignorant.

  • did you just say hes arrogant? dude, i want you to slap the guy you see in the mirror for being a retard.

  • Restarting your computer won't fix lag.

  • It happens to work just fine for me. But that's because typically when I lag it's my computer slowing down do to heating up. I also reset my wireless modem when I restart my comp.

  • Spys suck anyway...

  • Nothing wrong there. It's working as intended.

  • I loled.

  • probs just lag so theres no problem

  • no its not, ive had to backstab a heavy twice when he was standing still eating a sandvich... that proves it beyond doubt its a bug. he was perfectly still the whole time and i stood perfectly still the whole time, first hit did nothing, second killed him. lag has nothing to do with it. i dare say that tonight i played and instead of getting denied heaps of backstabs i dont recall missing 1 undeniable one... i think the little update they just did may have fixed this. fingers crossed

  • It's possible that your stabbing just crossed with the Heavy's Health bonus as he took a bite, so it was canceled for some retarded reason.

  • No it's not. Backstab registers in the system as an automatic kill no matter what, unless the player is under Uber. It's like doing a Run KillThatFucker.exe in the middle of the game. Backstab is absolute, even on people with Godmode through Console usage.

  • It's a latency issue.

  • no i think the guy was laggy u could see him jumping in front of u even though ur faster tan him see i use lag to my advantage i use it as a teleport

  • THERE ARE NO PROBLEMS! lol

  • This still occurs, but with a new "fail stab" animation.

  • This happens to me a lot. 5 downward stabs and I get blown up.

  • omg everything is upside down!!!!!!

  • lol

  • There are no problems.

    Wait a minute....

    Oh shi-!

  • now Valva MADE another problem, the complete BACKstab and the faster animation (if you thought this is bad, do it with the shorter range of the knife and angle but with faster animation... its SO screwed up now)

  • so many times i could of epicly pwnd 5 people as a spy, but wen i get 2 the 3rd 1 backstab glitches on me and i get a shotgun to the face...

  • a back stab is supposed to be an instant kill, regardless of how much health a class has

  • i would love if Valve could get their fingers out of their asses and fix this new little buggy bug, causing serious problems to the servers with Spies, on the whole shit-load of servers ive tried on tonight, all have their spies locked

  • never happened to me

    how old is this vid?

  • April 12, 2008.

  • My jaw litteraly DROPPED When the heavy didnt see you,

  • There are no problems.

  • looks more like a connection issue you have with that server

  • Lag. Deal with it or sort your net out.

  • those are latency or server issues; that has nothing to do with the knife issues.

  • You should get facestabbing down to an art, it compensates for the frustration of failstabs when you get a backstab in a frontal attack.

  • maybe you lag? idk...?

  • That heavy was beyond oblivious, he didn't even see you decloaking in the shade (which doesn't work against pretty much everyone else)

    And true, about some of the issues with the backstabs, it's really irritating to know you can be backstabbed by spies while you know they're there. It also sucks when you get backstabbed from infront.

  • happens brah

  • perhase lag? notice the video goes slightly faster in the start but slows down to normal speed when the backstab lands...

  • its because technically your stabbing his right arm.. not his back... u need to get directly behind him.. not to his side

  • no because snipers have their backs to wall and I can still backstab them. Well I don't know I'm just saying from my personal experience =)

  • ACtually, you can stab him from the side. But less change to really stab him :P

  • THERE ARE NO FUCKING PROBLEMS!!!

    What? He dared me!

  • There are no problems. That, my friend, is clearly LAG.

  • @ PillsC2E

    FAIL. Its not lag, this happens on MY OWN FUCKING SERVERS. Its the coding, and it has happened to me 6 times in a row on a stationary heavy, and then eventually i was gibbed by a soldier.

  • @LandsharkK94

    FAIL. It's not a problem, because it only seems to happen with you. Therefore, it is not a spy problem, but an "OMG everytime I stab I move backwards because my computer sucks and I know it does becuase this only happens to me" problem. Well, off to my scrim.

  • @PillsC2E

    It happens to everyone. I can't count the number of times the game hasn't registered a backstab.

  • lol if facestabs can happen in favour of the spy (which more anti-spy people like to talk about) isn't it also reasonable to assume that failed legit backstabs happen due to the same bugs?

  • If the trunk on a car opens, and the brakes sometimes fail, isn't it also reasonable to say that they both happen because of the same mechanism failure?

    No. Not really. But yet it is all about hit registration. As long as you stab the person's back at the height of your stab, you're good.

  • well thats really not my point, they both are in effect the same system where as a trunk and the brakes on a car are different systems. Facestabs happen because the programing is bad at "sensing" what is a hit to the back. Backstabs miss sometimes because of the same reasons, that is poor programming, programming that should recognize what is a hit oriented to the back. Plus its not lag because animations are clientside not serverside.

  • Everyone saying that it's lag - maybe that's just it? Collective of about 100 ping average between two players, therefore there should be a bit of a compensation, don't you think?

  • zat is called lag my friend.

    pick a server closer to you, and with less ping.

  • This is recorded on our own server. The creator of this vid lives no more than 100 miles away and his usual ping is around 10.

  • then he heavy was probably lagging. this would still make sense seeing as the hit-confirm is done server-wise.

    that or he had a lag spike.

  • he does appologise

  • I had this happen to me SO MANY TIMES! Thats why I quit spy, it was ether 50% bad luck 49% weird glitches or lag, and 1% stupidity that killed me.

    lol 125 health (crit wrench kills you)

  • You quit spy because it was slightly harder? QQ, dude. I quit spy for a while because of the same reasons, but then I just learned to play smarter. Then I was racking up kills like James Bond. On the plus side, you PROBABLY got a lot better at the class(es) you switched back to.

  • I came back to spy. I somtimes have to stop myself from playing TF2 becuase I keel over in frustration.

    Man do I have problems : /

  • wow

    i hope that never happens to me

  • i stabbed a heavy 5 times and his medic 2 times once and the game was lag-free

  • Dont get the 360 version. There are no awsome updates like the axestinguisher.

  • If you have a relatively low ping but you are experiencing a 'warping' effect, whereby walking forward a few steps sees you suddenly warp back to where you started, then you are getting packet loss. This means that some of the information being sent/received through your internet connection to the server is being lost en route, and has to be re-sent immediately.

  • Something like this happened to me on badlands a while ago. I was a soldier, and something hurt me from behind. I turned around and killed a spy who had just hit my back with the knife.

  • Spies know it hits and only does normal damage much of the time, because right after you do that person (never looked behind them before) spins and gibs you.

    I spent 5 seconds trying to stab a Soldier on Fastlane who just strafed to avoid Demo grenades. I went through the backstab animation three times and he just barely moved as it went down.Demo ended up with my kill. If it starts the animation, that means quickslash would've killed him. The animation missing makes no sense. It's broken.

  • I see no problem when you get facestabs. LAWL!

  • Thats the thing: The lag is only you, when it lags you can press any direction without moving, but other people don't lag and only see a stoned person. Pretty annoying.

    For example: I see a spy uncloak, lag, "CUT", backstabbed by the same spy!

  • this happens to me all the time...really annoying, hopefully the good guys at valve would fix this.

  • I don't have any problem...it may be cause by the lag of the stabber or the lag of the server or the lag of the guy running... or something like that :P

  • I still get this problem. My fav class is Spy and it is just annoying to have this problem.

  • you just have a lagz

  • been having the same problems STILL

    i hear the backstab AND it connects but no kill

    then i'll get destroyed by that engi, soldier, heavy

    *cry*

  • Its not an error on the game its the lagging

  • Every time I come out of disguise while stabbing I jump back a few feet. It's really fucking annoying.

  • Yep. It needs fixing. Had another spree like this one last night. Failed around 9 or 10 stabs, he turns round, crit gibs me in the face with a rocket.

  • put net_graph 1 on to see if the server where you play is crap or not. You should get more than 30 updates per sec in out of 66 atleast. It looks like that server had only less than 10 which will cause behaviour like that.

  • I'd chock it up to lag, but it'd be nice if this could be tested on a LAN. That'd remove almost all doubt.

  • im sorry to say it happens.... sadly ive fallen victim to it many a time, which resulted in my death other than that of my attackee - the heavy.

  • I understand your point. The spy is so damn weak already it won't hurt.

  • Looks like some lag. You can see, after every stab animation, he jumps forward, or you jump backwards abour 4 feet.

  • Heh. You don't have to worry about it? You have to worry about the exploits still there, the fact you don't even have Badlands yet. I much prefer PC to console.

  • I say the xonsole verion is so much more fucked up than the pc one cause u have to rely on one persons connection.

  • I had this problem a lot yesterday. I would run up to a heavy and backstab, miss, backstab, miss and then the heavy turns around and punches me to death... That happened a few more times that game. Nobody had any lag at all.