Assuming youre claiming both cars are stock that cannot be a real 4.6 cobra....even the 5.0 cobras had 285 the 4.6 is lighter and more powerful than the 5.0. A 944 turbo is unreliable and ugly, but quick. just not as fast as a 4.6 cobra. That car does 0-60 in about 5.0-5.2 and the 944 is around 5.4-5.6 which is very impressive for a car its age but the power discrepancy becomes more apparent as the race goes on so in no way could the 944 be stock unless a brain dead person was driving the cobra.
I didn't think it was stock, given you're putting an 87 4 cylinder against a 96 v8. High speed passing, absolutely the Porsche wins. But not quarter mile. It's not what they were made for.
@miragezero Best advice ever! Take the porsche motor out, buy the renegade hybrid kit and drop an ls1 in the car. It uses the porshce torque tube and tranny. The car will be faster for cheaper, the handling will improve and cheaper to repair.
how this car do in a 1/4 miles?My old 5.0l mustang do 14.2 seconds.If its realy a cobra mustang ou have some effectives mods!Stop bashing please,children.
@HitMan1263 umm.... how do you figure that? dont be mad.... its definetly a 96 cobra. If you disagree you dont know shit. how do i know? i own a 96 like this one
I like how you say 2.5 4cly turbo making it seem small and prob has slight mods vs a STOCK cobra and that was a 5.0 cobra 240HP not a 4.6 Cobra 300HP because the hood is from a 95 and that pony emblem is from a 95 fucking idiot. I didnt even hear exhaust from him so he must have been BONE stock and you prob have a reflash and a catback which does wonders on boosted cars..
German cars are the best in the world, this video does not surprise me really. I have a mark viii with the same block as this cobra but if i won a million dollars all I would buy would be german cars, actually i would buy a ford gt too .
sorry but it was a turbo one and the guy admitted it himself. Now if he stuffed a turbo emblem from a turbo 944 and lied about boost delay then its a different story. As far as boost on my engine, i made 296whp on 8.7psi on a smaller turbo, now i have ported heads, ported intake manifold and more aggressive cams.
You cant compare ur engine with mine, there are many variables to account there. If you want i can link you to places you can check (KL / KLZE) engines) and be t`he judge yourself.
Love both. Shouldn't really be compared. Different prices, different weight, different handling, different aerodynamics, different driver...etc. Not comparable. Mustang rocks. So does Porsche.
Im wondering whats done to that 944 to leave the stang so far behind? I had similar results with one when i was NA but today i just embarrased a kid on a 944 turbo to a point where after 3 runs, he came up with an excuse that his boost was delayed. As far as my car, its a 94 Ford Probe GT, 2.5L V6 turbo@5.3psi on a 50 trim t3t4e making no more than 260-270whp. Can anyone list some mods please?
@RigsPGT your car is about 100 lb lighter and with your mods has 40-50 more HP than a 944 turbo. the 944 turbo is a 6 second 0-60 car, statistically the cobra is faster, so the driver must have sucked?? I have a 951 and everything sounded stock on that...
@RigsPGT You apparently raced a stock N/A 944..... Your results will differ with a real 944 turbo.... There is no way that you're making 260-270whp on 5.3 psi... My 3.0L v6 twin turbo 300zx makes 300whp 290tq at 13psi... My 951 makes less than 250 at the wheels and pulls away from the 300.... You must have been racing an NA... either that or a 5 year old was driving it.....
im sorry but you sound like a Fast and Furious fan by this comment. I mentioned "Embarrassed" because the kid instigated the race after checking my car for 2-3 blocks of driving in the same way. Even after he lost, he needed more as he still wasnt convinced.
Remember, neither you or I are the fastest so be happy and dont brag about it. If you cant hold your "Im faster hormones" then go PGT-T hunting ;) I also dont mind having a documented race 2gethr for the rest 2 see :)
Your the one who mentioned embarrassing 944's in a naturally aspirated Probe GT, come on now. NA a Probe GT wouldnt dream of hanging with a 944 NA or a 944 Turbo. My 944T is pretty peppy for what it is, LS3 killer, LS1 Turbo killer. Your right though, we are not the fastest. ;)
It looks like you misunderstood my very first post. Back when i was NA (now turbo) i had a chance to run a 944 turbo and he killed me the same way this 944 did to the Cobra. There's no way i would outrun a car over 200whp car with only ~145whp unless that car is stuffed in gym barbells inside. As far as hanging with NA 944s, its a close call and it all depends on drivers. You wont know some other car's potential unless you own one and thats smth to consider!
judging by your videos, 1) you will put a few cars on me and 2) you dont have 250whp ;) I'd love to get some more info on your set up tho as it sounds pretty efficient! Maybe one of these days i get one too and turn it into a little project but until then i'll just sport the PGT.
Those races were at low boost too, at 15lbs (the boost setting in the videos) the car made 320rwhp. At 22lbs you should see what I do to that poor LS3 Corvette. I just have basic bolt on's, wastegate, injectors, 61-1 turbocharger, 3" exhaust and a tune.
I'm a mustang owner that understands we don't have the best, fastest cars in the world, but I like the fact that everyone always tries to (and does at times), take down Americas only Muscle Car that never went away, and also has heritage in racing since its birth! I believe there are millions of other vids, showing M3s, Porsches, Lambs, Ferrari, all being beat by other cars, and thats no big deal. theres always some car better than yours or mine, just appreciate what you have.
you can compare american cars to european perfection all you want, but your gonna get nowhere. just look on tv, where are all the american car manufacturers bragging where they tuned the cars? yeap, the nordschleif. cadiallac, buick, etc are all jumping on the bandwagon, knowing that europeans make better cars, period.
lol euros make better cars, euorpean perfection. So beyond LUXURY brands such as Audi, BMW, Porsche, MB, Ferrari, etc, what european cars do you know ANYTHING about?
@MINHO1978 I'm sorry, but did you miss the part where i called all those cars stinking peices of crrrrap? After the luxury/exotic brands and VW/Ford, europe's cars are fucking absolute garbage. This is coming from a guy who's driven many. Nice economic cars? Translation: "75hp diesel non-turboed CRAP"
So where have you been driving one of these cars lately? Last time I checked none of them have been imported to the US. Have you looked around lately at what it's going on in the US, I see a lot more economy cars".Most people arround the world don't need high HP cars, therefore " 75hp diesel" cars are enough for their needs. Let me give you a hint, last year I paid ~90 euros for a full tank of diesel( Audi A4 TDI). Do you get the concept now? Have you looked a the ford fiesta yet?
@MINHO1978 "So where have you been driving one of these cars lately?" Ummmmmm...how about europe, ass clown? "Don't need HP" must be a translation of "I'm too brokeass to afford a proper car, and no quality, economical options are available in europe"
Try driving a 75hp car on the highway for an hour or so. Lol keep pushing that throttle down to keep the car moving! As far as economy cars in the US, WTH are you talking about? Everybody drives a truck/fullsize car.
Lol Cjdubstand is a retard, if im not mistaken even the 2009 gt's have a solid rear axle design which is uhh to put it in simple terms... Cave man technology even back in the 80s????
Hey I owned a 944 and loved the crap outta that car..... it was quick as snot!! But hey when it comes to racing allot go's into modifying the cars so it all depends who get's the engine done right... But NOTHING cornered like my 944... MY GOD it was like the thing was on rails....
well, this is a drag race in this video (thats the obvious) i have to say though a stock srt4 runs a mid 13 in a quarter mile, a stock trans am ws6 runs a mid to high 12 in a quarter mile (im talking about the 6spd manual transmission version) ive seen track times on both cars a buddy of mine had a srt4 i use to see his slips all the time and he hadnt modded it yet ..but anyway, i think a straight quarter mile run i think it would be a good race pending both drivers are good at shifting ^^
all I have to say is, go ahead and break that porsche... it will be down for a while unless your loaded on $.... not to mention mods for the porsche cost ALOT more then mods on a american made car, I like porsche's in particular the 944 but I have to work for everything of mine and I just cant afford it and not afraid to admit it, but I also like Mustangs and Transam's I dont hate..find a 96+ trans am ws6 (the mustang 4.6 is a 281...TA WS6 is a 350) to race I want to see who wins that battle ^^
uhh the porshce cuz those two cars cant handle at all and its not expensive to mod at all just get a manual boost controller a chip and new exhaust and you can make alot. I like muscle cars two but this dubstang faggot is pissin every1 off
@thyreapu the porsche would win, and to mention a "equal" car to the 944 is the srt4, and its parts are almost the same price. the porshe would take more of a beating and handle better
Why are virtually all mustang owners such ignorant douche bags? I was hoping to get a classic mopar some day but im afraid the V8 will turn me in to a douche bag. By the way Mopar>Chevy>Ford. ACR Viper>ZR1>GT. Only reason I would buy a ford is because they didnt take bailout money.
tah funny thing is i didng thumbs you down and no ford doesnt own them because the viper acr beats all other domestics you are a tool and nobody mods foxbodys for road courses never seen one i see em on the strip where they belong you are right about ford not taking bailout money I would totally buy a new mustang to but i would much rather have a 911 turbo or gt3
once again went to the track and the only stang there was a 99 up body style and it got owned. NOBODY mods foxbodys for road courses being light and rwd has nothing to do with it they dont have good weight distro or steering for that matter there good for going straight porshes are good for turning get over it the damn cobra lost whoopdeedoo nobodys hating on it your just being a faggot and making yourself look like a tool each time you post.
Ill give Ford the respect it deserves. GT, and GT40, thats it. The mustang GT500 is okay.....in a straight line. Boring! For 50k I can have a waaaay better Porsche. Face it CJ Porsche just plain makes more refined sports cars. With the exception of the Ford GT, that thing can hang all around. Give props where theyre due!
@CJDUBstang LOL They dont ONLY make sports cars. Cayenne, and panamera. You really dont know much about Porsche. Probably why you own a stang. You should really do your homework, your really missing out. Sure the mustang is an American tradition. I dont buy a car because of tradition, or even sentiment. I look at the specs, and the platform. The 944's platform to this day still hasnt been out done by very many cars. The mid engine cars have. Still tho, the same center of gravity is achieved....
@threezerol944t by placing the engine up front, and mid mounting the transaxle. Much easier to work on a front engine car too. Mid engine cars are a pain just getting access to the engine bay usually.
oh they bought some plans from VW and made a twatrag copy.
most of their busniess is high performance cars and has been for 50 years.
you get the same clown-ass argument from BMW idiots who say how much nicer are the interiors. WTF? Its a luxury car you fucking idiots. Better be fucking nicer than a Buick.
Specs? Here's one: The 944 is from the 1980s. Get over it. American performance cars caught up long ago to that fucking heap.
@CJDUBstang Wow congratulations, they finally caught up to an 80's car in a straight line. Bout time. Too bad Porsche has progressed, and is even more ahead of the curve now. IDIOT! The cayenne is not a touareg. You were wrong get over yourself. I suppose the panamera, is a VW too? LOL Wow, you are not very bright.
@CJDUBstang Wow, some testing at VIR, that you probably dont even know what the track conditions were, or the parameters of the experiment. Congratulations. I wont defend the 911's much. Not a fan of rear engine. GT500 still isnt the car a 997tt is. More to the equation than speed. Id take an audi r8 personally. You dont wanna start talking about the gt2, gt3, or carrera GT. You have to start talking about a $250k ford GT. Which is an outstanding car. Note how the price went up 200k for ford...
@threezerol944t ..you get what you pay for. There is a reason the r8, and 997tt are twice the price, of a GT500, yet similar power output. Same reason the GT is 200k more....refinement, more than just fast, or fast in a straight line, you can say all you want, a stock Gt500 is no where near the handling of any given mid engine car. Power is the easy part.
Yeah actually I do. It was a controlled test by C&D with 5 different drivers (same 5 in both cars). After beating them on VIR all day (Grand Course configuration) they found the lap time of the 997TT and GT500 were identical...
Well if that's not making someone the bitch (i.e. the millionaire who threw down $100k), I don't know what is. The GT500 has phenomenal grip and a race proven chassis, same series as the factory 997 chassis actually. But yeah make up an alternate history if you want.
@CJDUBstang Yeah the touareg is a cayenne, the cayenne is not a touareg. The cayenne was developed by Porsche, not VW. Its a Porsche. Thanks for quoting sources, that prove my point. More like VW bought plans from them DUMBASS. LOL, conveniently you forget about the panamera. Your statement, that porsche "only makes sports cars", is false. "oh they bought some plans from VW and made a twatrag copy" is false. LOL what a tool. This is getting too easy.
dude who the fuck do you think you are? you dont know shit about shit thats how little shit you know. stop talking about fox bodys on tracks because we all know there are none there and if they are its because they slid off the road in the rain onto the track (haha inside joke) my neighbor has a 9 second foxbody and the first thing he said was (this thing goes straight and thats it) you dont know shit about the 951that car would shit on a brand new GT on a road course. go back to the dragstrip
The fact that my friends new edge Mustang Procharged would smoke your beloved S197. I get it, you have a boner for the S197, if Jesus drove a car Im sure it would be a S197. Shoot, Obama should pass a law saying everyone in the US has to drive a S197. We get that you want to defend your car but come on, you made an ass of yourself a long time ago. Just give it up.
You truly are a work of art. I'm sorry my 22 year old, 4 cylinder Porsche is far superior in every way shape and form than your inferior V8 counterpart. I'm sorry 300-500rwhp is so easy to obtain on the stock bottom end, I'm sorry the factory Brembo brakes stop my mayflower Porsche ungodly fast, I'm sorry my inferior Porsche would smoke you on tracks and the only thing your car was made for, the quarter mile. You have a lot of growing up to do, you have made that quite relevant.
I refer you to my earlier statement. You have added nothing, other than exposure your ignorance of other performance cars not named "Porsche". The S197 stang has won 5 spec sportscars championships, punching the likes of the 997 and M3 in the fucking vagina.
PS thinking a 500whp on the stock bottom end in a 22yo Porsche will last any longer than in a Ford V8, particularly less than 22 years old, is downright fucking RETAR-TED.
@BTMegadeth Wow what an original import tuner homosexual comment. Did you fall asleep in 1990 and just wake up now? Mustangs GT have comparable handling performance to M3s now.
@CJDUBstang can I have an example of when a ford is faster than a porsche on the street track and strip? the GT2 is faster than the GT (the fastest production ford)by a longshot.
@MangoSmoothie16 Are you fucking gay? So the brand new GT2 is faster than a car from SIX YEARS AGO? Say it ain't so arsehole! By the way the Ford GT is faster than the GT3 and old GT2, sucker.
@CJDUBstang doesnt matter. its still faster. its not like ford could have made the gt any faster anyway. They put everything they had into that. The 2005 gt2 has the same 0-60 time of 3.5 sec and is almost a tenth faster down the quarter (.08 sec quicker) than the gt. it also handles better. And the price is about equal so your argument is now dead.
Yawn. "They put everything they had into that" Including it leaving the factory with very conservative tuning, clowny. A tune and some of the same R-comp tires that the Gt2, gt3 comes with from the factory and its game over. Heck just the cheating fucking tires from the GT2/3 will make up that tiny margin.
@CJDUBstang Yes the ford would have beat the porsche down a drag strip with those tires but its a V8 vs a boxer 6. Still wont take it on the ring. Not too much of an accomplishment for ford.
Not much of an accomplishment? Porsche's sole purpose is to build cars to run on the Nurburgring. I would expect nothing less, so lick my fucking balls. The Ford GT is a great effort by a company that mostly makes trucks and family cars. The fact it punches pretty much every Porsche made in the vagina is AWESOME.
Put that same tires on the GT as on the GT2/3 and then we'll see you fucking idiot.
@CJDUBstang if its fast on the ring then its fast at other tracks too. so the purpose is to make a well balenced, nice handling RACE car. Ford wants to make a car go fast in a straight line as cheap as possible which means putting price before quality. And now you go back and say it punches porsche in the vag again because you ran out of shit to say. Ford doesnt know how to build a race car so should go back to making mediocre cars and SUV's (that are shitty unibodies) the trucks are good
@MangoSmoothie16 "its fast on the ring then its fast at other tracks too. "
You're a fucking idiot with that statment. Your also a fuckign idiot saying ford's purpose is to make straightline cars. HAHAHA. The new mustang GT handles nearly as good as a M3 now. FACT. Go back to 1993.
@CJDUBstang no its true. the ring has technical sections and fast sections. best of both. if a car is fast there it will be fast other tracks too. the new M3 doesnt handle great either. its okay. it has a lot of oversteer. im done waisting my time with you. you're the idioit here
@CJDUBstang ...exactly NEW... these arent new cars here.....any way a new gt2 and new ford have nearly the same numbers... porsche has 20hp less, the porsche beats it to 0-150, other than that 0-60 is almost identical... the porsche is 1mph less top speed... they cost about the same used......im done... i was bored
@darkeyce02 Who fucking cares? A 911 is a 911. They never fucking change. The Ford GT is ICONIC and will hold triple the original value long after the GT2 is rust.
@CJDUBstang yeap except that bmw gets to the 420 hp mark with a 4.0 litre v8, while your stang has a big old 5.0 v8 in a boat of a shell that will never outhandle a m3. keep dreaming.
@hamronD73 lol stang gets 410 hp on just 87 octane. Bimmer will blow up on 87. Its one of the most advanced V8s in the WORLD, with heads/valvetrain from the Aston V12 program/Duratec. It also has a fuckload more TQ than a little 4L V8.
Yes it does handle as good as a M3, and its faster than an M3 in a straight line.
This BIG BOAT of a shell is lighter than a fucking M3, idiot.
@CJDUBstang as far as im concerned the 2011 didnt beat the m3 but the boss did. also fuck m3s BMWs are gay as shit. ford still cant touch porsche on the ring. or even chevy lmfao. and that is sad. Will you please go shove your solid rear axle up your ass somewhere else? im pretty sure you have been owned more then enough on this vid freakan ay dude give it up.
@CJDUBstang your a typical american moron. if you knew anything about cars, and precision engineering, you would know. but you dont so ill save my effort on people like you.
The 997 is a far superior car than the S197, dont kid yourself. I should get on Mustang forums right now and show them how much of a fool you are making of yourself.
Mustangs provide that muscle feel and are for those who want that un restrained power feel. There different people that want the controlled, disciplined power feel. (Us porsche guys). Its like saying who is a better warrior a Samaurai or a Viking. They are simply different one is not better than the other and either one can kick som serious ass when trained properly
maybe thats why you guys (well..girls and/or gays) lose races soo often.....you are checking out guys crotches while the men on the track leave you in the dust!! You need to focus on the art of driving.......oh that would require a porsche now wouldn't it?
All you mustang guys coming up with excuses are a disgrace. The cobra lost and that's all there is to it. What ever happened to being able to take a loss. I'm a mustang guy myself and I own a 96 mustang. I've lost plenty of races and when I do I just take it for what It is "I got my ass handed to me".
@Piperporsche180944 96 cobras were Not supercharged. this one might have been done aftermarket but i dont know the owner. the only cobras that were supercharged were the 03-04s. get your factys straight man.
Really shaunp4trick? Who said anything about a supercharger? It is common knowledge that the 03-04 Cobras were supercharged from factory. You really couldnt sense the sarcasm?
Your last comment "not fair, Porsche was turbocharged and the Cobra was stock", are you insinuating that a turbocharged 4.6L, DOHC, 32 Valve, V8 would even out the race against a turbocharged 2.5L, SOHC, 8 Valve, Inline 4? Lol
The Porsche left the factory with a turbocharger bolted to it. I have my facts straight.
Seriously, are you that dense? I am making fun of your initial comment, here, I will quote your statement "not fare, porchse was turboed, and the cobra was stock". Youre insinuating that having a turbocharger fitted to the 4.6L, DOHC, 32 Valve Mustang, then it would be a even race with a factory turbocharged 4 cyl Porsche. XD
@Piperporsche180944 yeah well it kinda comes down to the FI on any car. FI can make tons of power no matter what. It can turn a 230hp mustang into a 500-600hp monster.. it can most likely do the same to the Porsche. The prosche is also a shit load lighter than the 3000+lb mustang
call it a fu$% up on ford's part. HMM let's build a bigger engine to compensate for the unesseary BS we packed into our coupe.----must be the american way....
You're a fucking idiot. The Ford 32v DOHC was one of the greatest engines built, both in terms of power and RELIABILITY. Whole fucking world knows that.
Fuck the K-Segg uses the same fucking engine.
Piss on Porsche for making a smoky 4-banger that doesn't last as long.
Who is this CJDUBstang idiot making rampant generalizations...look at your screen name; a bit biased perhaps? And to compare the chassis the 951 is built on to a fox body? Are you kidding me? Take two stock ones, park one wheel on a curb and see which one the door still opens on. Some bendy 'stang? IT'S A CHEAP CAR. I know Cosworth made the great motors like the DFV (quick, go look it up on Wikipedia so you can pretend like you knew what that is!), but I'm sorry, that mustang is a shit pile.
Come to a real track and see Porsche guys (996 & 997s) get their asses handed to them by the fox body guys.
I don't give a fuck about the provenance. I'm saying Porsche drivers can't drive.
If you guys wanna sit around though and masturbate to your beat to shit 25 y.o. 944s, whilst talking about other, superior Porsches you will never own, good for you.
Come up to Road America or Blackhawk this summer, CJDUBstang, and we'll see if those Porsche drivers don't know what they're doing. Keep telling yourself whatever you want out in fantasyland, Porsche owners are like any other car owner, some are good, some are excellent, some are mediocre and some suck ass. To say the brand of car has any bearing on driver quality is ludicrous in the least.
Let me start by saying that you dont know who the fuck I am or what I got.. Now Im 21 years old and I own a 01 911 carrera.. oops I guess didn't know that................... my tires probably cost as much as your entire car.......a 944 is a great car and not only will it fuck a fox body up my car will demolish most of u assholes as I always do. Im 21 but Im a veteran at this game. Step you money game up and bring me a cobra to eat YOU PEASANT
Remember you are referring to ford's best engine.....It still can't touch porsche's 3.8 turbo. hmm both being boosted let's see the lowly 3.8 still makes almost 80 more wheel horse. Im sorry but you are never going to win this.......
Soooo, who needs a calculator? When one mentions the 944 model year it makes your ford even more inferior.
The video here does all the talking jealous little boy. Better sell your inferior stang, and get a 944 a well sorted one can be had for about 10k. With all the money saved, you could really make it fly. Oh wait.. im sure the bank really owns your stang, and youll be paying them for the rest of your life. Which means your really broke, and just a slave to your finance company.
You obviously have no clue what your talking about. 944= 50/50 weight distribution. Weighs in at about 2900 lbs, mine is sittin at about 400 whp/450 flt lbs. 1 bar boost. 09' GT 3356 lbs, 300hp/320 ft lbs. Those are at the flywheel numbers, - about 15 % for power loss through the drivetrain..285/300ish. With a weight distribution of 54/46. A 944 with a 200$ chip, and high flow cat is capable of 300 whp, which is already a better power to weight.
Apples, and oranges really. Your comparing, a stop light racing low budget, disposable pony car, to race proven sports car heritage, built to last, its in a hole nother class. Its like comparing a thoroughbred race horse, to a mule. The thoroughbred being Porsche of course.
Face it, stangs are not the total package a Porsche is. Lightweight cars dont need v8s. Perhaps you need a physics refresher, or physics knowledge PERIOD. V8s are for idiots who cant understand power to weight.
Cars made by a company that ONLY makes high end cars, and each costs a fucking fortune, better be better than a stang in a couple ways.
Power to weight? Lol you fucking jackoff, the $25K GT has power to weight ratio comparable to a 2009 Boxster, and superior to pretty much every 944 every built.
@CJDUBstang Is the 1/4 mile all your feeble mind can think of when looking at specs? Maybe its all you look at because, its all your stang really has going for it.(decent 1/4 mile otb).
You know I hate to see you beating up on a cobra tho lol fucker
Jake98Cob 4 hours ago
Your facts are wrong dude! The 5.0 cobra has gt40 heads and intake it is 245hp. FACT!
Was that cobra stock piper? Even with mods it's only a low 13's car unless it has engine work.
Jake98Cob 4 hours ago
Assuming youre claiming both cars are stock that cannot be a real 4.6 cobra....even the 5.0 cobras had 285 the 4.6 is lighter and more powerful than the 5.0. A 944 turbo is unreliable and ugly, but quick. just not as fast as a 4.6 cobra. That car does 0-60 in about 5.0-5.2 and the 944 is around 5.4-5.6 which is very impressive for a car its age but the power discrepancy becomes more apparent as the race goes on so in no way could the 944 be stock unless a brain dead person was driving the cobra.
RaudiAudiT 1 month ago
stock for stock they both have around the same horsepower, the porsche is definately lighter, porshe wins
darksamurai73 1 month ago
Yea well thats too bad that it took them until 2005 to figure it out :( fucking fords suck
kilralpine 2 months ago
FUCK YEA PRO CAMERAMAN!!!!
1. DOESNT STICK HIS CAMERA OUT THE WINDOW
2. CLOSES THE WINDOW
3. LOOKS BEHIND TO FILM THE DISTANCE
YouSuckS4life 4 months ago 2
I didn't think it was stock, given you're putting an 87 4 cylinder against a 96 v8. High speed passing, absolutely the Porsche wins. But not quarter mile. It's not what they were made for.
geekworks 4 months ago
Can I please have more details on this 944? I just got an 87 turbo and don't know what path to take still... >_<
miragezero 6 months ago
@miragezero Best advice ever! Take the porsche motor out, buy the renegade hybrid kit and drop an ls1 in the car. It uses the porshce torque tube and tranny. The car will be faster for cheaper, the handling will improve and cheaper to repair.
94StrokerZ28 5 months ago
how this car do in a 1/4 miles?My old 5.0l mustang do 14.2 seconds.If its realy a cobra mustang ou have some effectives mods!Stop bashing please,children.
binelle211 8 months ago
Thats not 96 cobra, you people are fucking retards and v8 haters. Im sorry you drive queer ass economy cars
HitMan1263 8 months ago
@HitMan1263 umm.... how do you figure that? dont be mad.... its definetly a 96 cobra. If you disagree you dont know shit. how do i know? i own a 96 like this one
gbt34 6 months ago
I like how you say 2.5 4cly turbo making it seem small and prob has slight mods vs a STOCK cobra and that was a 5.0 cobra 240HP not a 4.6 Cobra 300HP because the hood is from a 95 and that pony emblem is from a 95 fucking idiot. I didnt even hear exhaust from him so he must have been BONE stock and you prob have a reflash and a catback which does wonders on boosted cars..
96STANG302 9 months ago
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96STANG302 9 months ago
porsche drivers are pretty chill. im a muscle car guy, but i will always love euro's.. i own an m3 duhh
mrdragking13 10 months ago
German cars are the best in the world, this video does not surprise me really. I have a mark viii with the same block as this cobra but if i won a million dollars all I would buy would be german cars, actually i would buy a ford gt too .
andyass3 11 months ago
my 944 turbo will shit all over your mustang like this video here 5 stars
MrCentralamerican 11 months ago
sorry but it was a turbo one and the guy admitted it himself. Now if he stuffed a turbo emblem from a turbo 944 and lied about boost delay then its a different story. As far as boost on my engine, i made 296whp on 8.7psi on a smaller turbo, now i have ported heads, ported intake manifold and more aggressive cams.
You cant compare ur engine with mine, there are many variables to account there. If you want i can link you to places you can check (KL / KLZE) engines) and be t`he judge yourself.
RigsPGT 1 year ago
Love both. Shouldn't really be compared. Different prices, different weight, different handling, different aerodynamics, different driver...etc. Not comparable. Mustang rocks. So does Porsche.
xmodfreak2011 1 year ago
Im wondering whats done to that 944 to leave the stang so far behind? I had similar results with one when i was NA but today i just embarrased a kid on a 944 turbo to a point where after 3 runs, he came up with an excuse that his boost was delayed. As far as my car, its a 94 Ford Probe GT, 2.5L V6 turbo@5.3psi on a 50 trim t3t4e making no more than 260-270whp. Can anyone list some mods please?
RigsPGT 1 year ago
@RigsPGT your car is about 100 lb lighter and with your mods has 40-50 more HP than a 944 turbo. the 944 turbo is a 6 second 0-60 car, statistically the cobra is faster, so the driver must have sucked?? I have a 951 and everything sounded stock on that...
Hojemwod 1 year ago
@RigsPGT You apparently raced a stock N/A 944..... Your results will differ with a real 944 turbo.... There is no way that you're making 260-270whp on 5.3 psi... My 3.0L v6 twin turbo 300zx makes 300whp 290tq at 13psi... My 951 makes less than 250 at the wheels and pulls away from the 300.... You must have been racing an NA... either that or a 5 year old was driving it.....
irken8313 1 year ago
@RigsPGT
Come embarrass me in my 944 Turbo.
Piperporsche180944 1 year ago
@Piperporsche180944
im sorry but you sound like a Fast and Furious fan by this comment. I mentioned "Embarrassed" because the kid instigated the race after checking my car for 2-3 blocks of driving in the same way. Even after he lost, he needed more as he still wasnt convinced.
Remember, neither you or I are the fastest so be happy and dont brag about it. If you cant hold your "Im faster hormones" then go PGT-T hunting ;) I also dont mind having a documented race 2gethr for the rest 2 see :)
RigsPGT 1 year ago
@RigsPGT
Your the one who mentioned embarrassing 944's in a naturally aspirated Probe GT, come on now. NA a Probe GT wouldnt dream of hanging with a 944 NA or a 944 Turbo. My 944T is pretty peppy for what it is, LS3 killer, LS1 Turbo killer. Your right though, we are not the fastest. ;)
Piperporsche180944 1 year ago
@Piperporsche180944
It looks like you misunderstood my very first post. Back when i was NA (now turbo) i had a chance to run a 944 turbo and he killed me the same way this 944 did to the Cobra. There's no way i would outrun a car over 200whp car with only ~145whp unless that car is stuffed in gym barbells inside. As far as hanging with NA 944s, its a close call and it all depends on drivers. You wont know some other car's potential unless you own one and thats smth to consider!
RigsPGT 1 year ago
@RigsPGT
Im never one to turn down a good race, check out my videos ;)
Piperporsche180944 1 year ago
@Piperporsche180944
judging by your videos, 1) you will put a few cars on me and 2) you dont have 250whp ;) I'd love to get some more info on your set up tho as it sounds pretty efficient! Maybe one of these days i get one too and turn it into a little project but until then i'll just sport the PGT.
RigsPGT 1 year ago
@RigsPGT
Those races were at low boost too, at 15lbs (the boost setting in the videos) the car made 320rwhp. At 22lbs you should see what I do to that poor LS3 Corvette. I just have basic bolt on's, wastegate, injectors, 61-1 turbocharger, 3" exhaust and a tune.
Piperporsche180944 1 year ago
I'm a mustang owner that understands we don't have the best, fastest cars in the world, but I like the fact that everyone always tries to (and does at times), take down Americas only Muscle Car that never went away, and also has heritage in racing since its birth! I believe there are millions of other vids, showing M3s, Porsches, Lambs, Ferrari, all being beat by other cars, and thats no big deal. theres always some car better than yours or mine, just appreciate what you have.
redkoa5 1 year ago
Why can't mustang owners ever understand that they DON'T have the best, fastest, and most awesome car in the world?
DThaeman 1 year ago
you can compare american cars to european perfection all you want, but your gonna get nowhere. just look on tv, where are all the american car manufacturers bragging where they tuned the cars? yeap, the nordschleif. cadiallac, buick, etc are all jumping on the bandwagon, knowing that europeans make better cars, period.
hamronD73 1 year ago
@hamronD73
lol euros make better cars, euorpean perfection. So beyond LUXURY brands such as Audi, BMW, Porsche, MB, Ferrari, etc, what european cars do you know ANYTHING about?
Opel-lol
Citroen-lolz
Skoda-buaahahaha
Seat-pfttt.
Peugeot-pooge
Fiat-HAHAHAH
Ford of Europe-same
CJDUBstang 1 year ago
@CJDUBstang
Beforeyou say things you have no clue about do some research.
Opel LOL.Even the cadillac catera had the same engine as the opel omega
Citroen- Make some nice economic cars.
Skoda-Vw group
Seat-VW group
Peugeot- Makes great cars and owns 44.3 percent of nissan.
Fiat- it's actually older than ford and puts out some very nice cars speacilly the ones by peninfarina.
Ford Europe is not the same.
MINHO1978 10 months ago
@MINHO1978 I'm sorry, but did you miss the part where i called all those cars stinking peices of crrrrap? After the luxury/exotic brands and VW/Ford, europe's cars are fucking absolute garbage. This is coming from a guy who's driven many. Nice economic cars? Translation: "75hp diesel non-turboed CRAP"
CJDUBstang 10 months ago
@CJDUBstang
So where have you been driving one of these cars lately? Last time I checked none of them have been imported to the US. Have you looked around lately at what it's going on in the US, I see a lot more economy cars".Most people arround the world don't need high HP cars, therefore " 75hp diesel" cars are enough for their needs. Let me give you a hint, last year I paid ~90 euros for a full tank of diesel( Audi A4 TDI). Do you get the concept now? Have you looked a the ford fiesta yet?
MINHO1978 10 months ago
@MINHO1978 "So where have you been driving one of these cars lately?" Ummmmmm...how about europe, ass clown? "Don't need HP" must be a translation of "I'm too brokeass to afford a proper car, and no quality, economical options are available in europe"
Try driving a 75hp car on the highway for an hour or so. Lol keep pushing that throttle down to keep the car moving! As far as economy cars in the US, WTH are you talking about? Everybody drives a truck/fullsize car.
CJDUBstang 10 months ago
Oh yea and CJ congratulations on owning a "sports car" that still has truck suspension Hah
kilralpine 1 year ago
@kilralpine
4 sportscar championships on that axle. Now 2011 stangs are right with the M3 on the track. Some truck.
Welcome to 2005 asshole.
CJDUBstang 1 year ago
Lol Cjdubstand is a retard, if im not mistaken even the 2009 gt's have a solid rear axle design which is uhh to put it in simple terms... Cave man technology even back in the 80s????
kilralpine 1 year ago
944 FTW!!!!!
hostile1112 1 year ago
Hey I owned a 944 and loved the crap outta that car..... it was quick as snot!! But hey when it comes to racing allot go's into modifying the cars so it all depends who get's the engine done right... But NOTHING cornered like my 944... MY GOD it was like the thing was on rails....
funkyflights 1 year ago
World Touring Car Championship; 1 title (1987)
European Touring Car Championship; 2 titles (1987 and 1988)
British Touring Car Championship; 2 titles (1988 and 1991)
Italia Superturismo Championship; 4 titles (1987, 1989, 1990 and 1991)
Deutsche Tourenwagen Meisterschaft; 2 titles (1987 and 1989)
Australian Touring Car Championship; 1 title (1987)
A few of the m3's racing history wins
skatereal46 1 year ago
Ha ha ha ha! All these sore Mustang owners make me giggle!
The Mustang got OWNED in this vid, no question. Accept it.
circutracer150 1 year ago
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MangoSmoothie16 1 year ago
its funny how theres so many haters on here but yea that porsche completely smashed that cobra.
killacamry24 1 year ago 17
Incredible!
chrismusclemanone 1 year ago
sick bro...i got an 87 944T also...any mods done to yours?
SXRStuntMan944 1 year ago
I remember way back when I had a 87 944 s turbo and I raced a 5.0 mustang. /he hung in there, but I pulled away in the end topping over 150.
100 in a porsche feels like 55 in any other car.
upinflamezzz 1 year ago
@upinflamezzz And 100MPH in a mustang feels like 150MPH in any other car....
trublu97 1 year ago
fords and mustangs suck any way
racingchamp101 1 year ago
if there had been a courner involved it would have been even more of a 1 horse race
paulhunter123 1 year ago
well, this is a drag race in this video (thats the obvious) i have to say though a stock srt4 runs a mid 13 in a quarter mile, a stock trans am ws6 runs a mid to high 12 in a quarter mile (im talking about the 6spd manual transmission version) ive seen track times on both cars a buddy of mine had a srt4 i use to see his slips all the time and he hadnt modded it yet ..but anyway, i think a straight quarter mile run i think it would be a good race pending both drivers are good at shifting ^^
thyreapu 2 years ago
all I have to say is, go ahead and break that porsche... it will be down for a while unless your loaded on $.... not to mention mods for the porsche cost ALOT more then mods on a american made car, I like porsche's in particular the 944 but I have to work for everything of mine and I just cant afford it and not afraid to admit it, but I also like Mustangs and Transam's I dont hate..find a 96+ trans am ws6 (the mustang 4.6 is a 281...TA WS6 is a 350) to race I want to see who wins that battle ^^
thyreapu 2 years ago
uhh the porshce cuz those two cars cant handle at all and its not expensive to mod at all just get a manual boost controller a chip and new exhaust and you can make alot. I like muscle cars two but this dubstang faggot is pissin every1 off
numba1netsfan 2 years ago
@thyreapu the porsche would win, and to mention a "equal" car to the 944 is the srt4, and its parts are almost the same price. the porshe would take more of a beating and handle better
darkeyce02 2 years ago
Well I do know that the Cobra would beat the T/A. I drive a 96 Cobra and my friend had a late 90's T/A, I beat him so...
xTeenSpirit93x 1 year ago
Why are virtually all mustang owners such ignorant douche bags? I was hoping to get a classic mopar some day but im afraid the V8 will turn me in to a douche bag. By the way Mopar>Chevy>Ford. ACR Viper>ZR1>GT. Only reason I would buy a ford is because they didnt take bailout money.
numba1netsfan 2 years ago
I think by your comments you already are a douchbag.
Mopar and Chevy are not even on the same level as Ford any more. whole fucking NA knows it. Not to mention they're Gov Onwed motherfuckers.
CJDUBstang 2 years ago
tah funny thing is i didng thumbs you down and no ford doesnt own them because the viper acr beats all other domestics you are a tool and nobody mods foxbodys for road courses never seen one i see em on the strip where they belong you are right about ford not taking bailout money I would totally buy a new mustang to but i would much rather have a 911 turbo or gt3
numba1netsfan 2 years ago
"and nobody mods foxbodys for road courses "
^^all this tells me is you've never been to a real track. They are one of the most popular:
RWD
light
cheap as fuck to track mod.
CJDUBstang 2 years ago
once again went to the track and the only stang there was a 99 up body style and it got owned. NOBODY mods foxbodys for road courses being light and rwd has nothing to do with it they dont have good weight distro or steering for that matter there good for going straight porshes are good for turning get over it the damn cobra lost whoopdeedoo nobodys hating on it your just being a faggot and making yourself look like a tool each time you post.
numba1netsfan 2 years ago
sure you went to the track...
As far as foxbodies for track day cars, go make up your own version of the world if you wish.
CJDUBstang 2 years ago
Ill give Ford the respect it deserves. GT, and GT40, thats it. The mustang GT500 is okay.....in a straight line. Boring! For 50k I can have a waaaay better Porsche. Face it CJ Porsche just plain makes more refined sports cars. With the exception of the Ford GT, that thing can hang all around. Give props where theyre due!
threezerol944t 2 years ago
porsche only makes SPORTS CARS you fucking dummy. big fucking deal. you want credit for shit they're supposed to do?
Ford makes more cars in one shift than Porsche makes in 3 months.
CJDUBstang 2 years ago
@CJDUBstang LOL They dont ONLY make sports cars. Cayenne, and panamera. You really dont know much about Porsche. Probably why you own a stang. You should really do your homework, your really missing out. Sure the mustang is an American tradition. I dont buy a car because of tradition, or even sentiment. I look at the specs, and the platform. The 944's platform to this day still hasnt been out done by very many cars. The mid engine cars have. Still tho, the same center of gravity is achieved....
threezerol944t 2 years ago
@threezerol944t by placing the engine up front, and mid mounting the transaxle. Much easier to work on a front engine car too. Mid engine cars are a pain just getting access to the engine bay usually.
threezerol944t 2 years ago
oh they bought some plans from VW and made a twatrag copy.
most of their busniess is high performance cars and has been for 50 years.
you get the same clown-ass argument from BMW idiots who say how much nicer are the interiors. WTF? Its a luxury car you fucking idiots. Better be fucking nicer than a Buick.
Specs? Here's one: The 944 is from the 1980s. Get over it. American performance cars caught up long ago to that fucking heap.
CJDUBstang 2 years ago
@CJDUBstang Wow congratulations, they finally caught up to an 80's car in a straight line. Bout time. Too bad Porsche has progressed, and is even more ahead of the curve now. IDIOT! The cayenne is not a touareg. You were wrong get over yourself. I suppose the panamera, is a VW too? LOL Wow, you are not very bright.
threezerol944t 2 years ago
"Wow congratulations, they finally caught up to an 80's car in a straight line."
Uh might not have heard, but some hard core track testing at VIR showed the GT500 made the 997 turbo Its bitch a few years ago.
CJDUBstang 2 years ago
@CJDUBstang Wow, some testing at VIR, that you probably dont even know what the track conditions were, or the parameters of the experiment. Congratulations. I wont defend the 911's much. Not a fan of rear engine. GT500 still isnt the car a 997tt is. More to the equation than speed. Id take an audi r8 personally. You dont wanna start talking about the gt2, gt3, or carrera GT. You have to start talking about a $250k ford GT. Which is an outstanding car. Note how the price went up 200k for ford...
threezerol944t 2 years ago
@threezerol944t ..you get what you pay for. There is a reason the r8, and 997tt are twice the price, of a GT500, yet similar power output. Same reason the GT is 200k more....refinement, more than just fast, or fast in a straight line, you can say all you want, a stock Gt500 is no where near the handling of any given mid engine car. Power is the easy part.
threezerol944t 2 years ago
Yeah actually I do. It was a controlled test by C&D with 5 different drivers (same 5 in both cars). After beating them on VIR all day (Grand Course configuration) they found the lap time of the 997TT and GT500 were identical...
Well if that's not making someone the bitch (i.e. the millionaire who threw down $100k), I don't know what is. The GT500 has phenomenal grip and a race proven chassis, same series as the factory 997 chassis actually. But yeah make up an alternate history if you want.
CJDUBstang 2 years ago
" Its platform was developed by Porsche and is shared with the Volkswagen Touareg and the Audi Q7"
Fine the toureg is a Cayenne lol
CJDUBstang 2 years ago
@CJDUBstang Yeah the touareg is a cayenne, the cayenne is not a touareg. The cayenne was developed by Porsche, not VW. Its a Porsche. Thanks for quoting sources, that prove my point. More like VW bought plans from them DUMBASS. LOL, conveniently you forget about the panamera. Your statement, that porsche "only makes sports cars", is false. "oh they bought some plans from VW and made a twatrag copy" is false. LOL what a tool. This is getting too easy.
threezerol944t 2 years ago
lol in was a joint circle jerk in actual fact
CJDUBstang 2 years ago
joint project means they had to go to a passenger car manfacturer with the experience to make a everyday suv for cheap.
I don't see how it proves porsche is anything other than a expensive sports car manufactuer.
CJDUBstang 2 years ago
Volkswagen Group PL71 platform fuck-o
CJDUBstang 2 years ago
dude who the fuck do you think you are? you dont know shit about shit thats how little shit you know. stop talking about fox bodys on tracks because we all know there are none there and if they are its because they slid off the road in the rain onto the track (haha inside joke) my neighbor has a 9 second foxbody and the first thing he said was (this thing goes straight and thats it) you dont know shit about the 951that car would shit on a brand new GT on a road course. go back to the dragstrip
numba1netsfan 2 years ago
Oh please, go to a club track and you see fox bodies rocking 997s on the curves.
The S197 chassis is light years ahead of the fucking POS 944 chassis and competitive in stock form (for example a GT500) with the 997TT.
Welcome to last decade, homosexual.
CJDUBstang 2 years ago
@CJDUBstang
Your arrogance is plentiful. Why is my bolt on 951 smoking my friends 2004 Mustang GT procharged at 12lbs of boost?
Also the Corvette is light years ahead of Ford Mustangs.
Piperporsche180944 1 year ago
@Piperporsche180944
What in the fuck does that have to do with an S197? Smoke it it how, motherfucker?
CJDUBstang 1 year ago
@CJDUBstang
The fact that my friends new edge Mustang Procharged would smoke your beloved S197. I get it, you have a boner for the S197, if Jesus drove a car Im sure it would be a S197. Shoot, Obama should pass a law saying everyone in the US has to drive a S197. We get that you want to defend your car but come on, you made an ass of yourself a long time ago. Just give it up.
Piperporsche180944 1 year ago
@Piperporsche180944
You made yourself an ass the moment you said your 25 year old Porsche was better than ANYTHING. Lick my balls; fuck off and never come back. Cheers.
CJDUBstang 1 year ago
@CJDUMBstang
You truly are a work of art. I'm sorry my 22 year old, 4 cylinder Porsche is far superior in every way shape and form than your inferior V8 counterpart. I'm sorry 300-500rwhp is so easy to obtain on the stock bottom end, I'm sorry the factory Brembo brakes stop my mayflower Porsche ungodly fast, I'm sorry my inferior Porsche would smoke you on tracks and the only thing your car was made for, the quarter mile. You have a lot of growing up to do, you have made that quite relevant.
Piperporsche180944 1 year ago
@Piperporsche180944
I refer you to my earlier statement. You have added nothing, other than exposure your ignorance of other performance cars not named "Porsche". The S197 stang has won 5 spec sportscars championships, punching the likes of the 997 and M3 in the fucking vagina.
PS thinking a 500whp on the stock bottom end in a 22yo Porsche will last any longer than in a Ford V8, particularly less than 22 years old, is downright fucking RETAR-TED.
CJDUBstang 1 year ago
@CJDUBstang you guys should stop the pissing match. seriously. porsche builds world class race cars, ford builds pieces of shit. end of story.
BTMegadeth 1 year ago
@BTMegadeth Ford builds cars that punch porsche in the pussy. STREET-TRACK-STRIP. end of story. Prove me wrong motherfucker.
CJDUBstang 1 year ago
@CJDUBstang i think racing cars has more to do than driving in a straight line dude.
BTMegadeth 1 year ago 3
@BTMegadeth Wow what an original import tuner homosexual comment. Did you fall asleep in 1990 and just wake up now? Mustangs GT have comparable handling performance to M3s now.
CJDUBstang 1 year ago
@CJDUBstang
Mature please, can you not conduct yourself in a respectable manner?
Piperporsche180944 1 year ago
@BTMegadeth depends on what kind of racing you are doing.
Hojemwod 1 year ago
@CJDUBstang can I have an example of when a ford is faster than a porsche on the street track and strip? the GT2 is faster than the GT (the fastest production ford)by a longshot.
MangoSmoothie16 1 year ago
@MangoSmoothie16 Are you fucking gay? So the brand new GT2 is faster than a car from SIX YEARS AGO? Say it ain't so arsehole! By the way the Ford GT is faster than the GT3 and old GT2, sucker.
CJDUBstang 1 year ago
@CJDUBstang doesnt matter. its still faster. its not like ford could have made the gt any faster anyway. They put everything they had into that. The 2005 gt2 has the same 0-60 time of 3.5 sec and is almost a tenth faster down the quarter (.08 sec quicker) than the gt. it also handles better. And the price is about equal so your argument is now dead.
MangoSmoothie16 1 year ago
@MangoSmoothie16
Yawn. "They put everything they had into that" Including it leaving the factory with very conservative tuning, clowny. A tune and some of the same R-comp tires that the Gt2, gt3 comes with from the factory and its game over. Heck just the cheating fucking tires from the GT2/3 will make up that tiny margin.
CJDUBstang 1 year ago
@CJDUBstang Yes the ford would have beat the porsche down a drag strip with those tires but its a V8 vs a boxer 6. Still wont take it on the ring. Not too much of an accomplishment for ford.
MangoSmoothie16 1 year ago
@MangoSmoothie16
Not much of an accomplishment? Porsche's sole purpose is to build cars to run on the Nurburgring. I would expect nothing less, so lick my fucking balls. The Ford GT is a great effort by a company that mostly makes trucks and family cars. The fact it punches pretty much every Porsche made in the vagina is AWESOME.
Put that same tires on the GT as on the GT2/3 and then we'll see you fucking idiot.
CJDUBstang 1 year ago
@CJDUBstang if its fast on the ring then its fast at other tracks too. so the purpose is to make a well balenced, nice handling RACE car. Ford wants to make a car go fast in a straight line as cheap as possible which means putting price before quality. And now you go back and say it punches porsche in the vag again because you ran out of shit to say. Ford doesnt know how to build a race car so should go back to making mediocre cars and SUV's (that are shitty unibodies) the trucks are good
MangoSmoothie16 1 year ago
@MangoSmoothie16 "its fast on the ring then its fast at other tracks too. "
You're a fucking idiot with that statment. Your also a fuckign idiot saying ford's purpose is to make straightline cars. HAHAHA. The new mustang GT handles nearly as good as a M3 now. FACT. Go back to 1993.
CJDUBstang 1 year ago
@CJDUBstang no its true. the ring has technical sections and fast sections. best of both. if a car is fast there it will be fast other tracks too. the new M3 doesnt handle great either. its okay. it has a lot of oversteer. im done waisting my time with you. you're the idioit here
MangoSmoothie16 1 year ago
@CJDUBstang ...exactly NEW... these arent new cars here.....any way a new gt2 and new ford have nearly the same numbers... porsche has 20hp less, the porsche beats it to 0-150, other than that 0-60 is almost identical... the porsche is 1mph less top speed... they cost about the same used......im done... i was bored
darkeyce02 1 year ago
@darkeyce02 Who fucking cares? A 911 is a 911. They never fucking change. The Ford GT is ICONIC and will hold triple the original value long after the GT2 is rust.
CJDUBstang 1 year ago
@CJDUBstang ..mybe a gt2, but the 911 "930" slant nose's still cost more than a new gt2
darkeyce02 1 year ago
@CJDUBstang ummm no
PurpleCaliper 1 year ago
@CJDUBstang yeap except that bmw gets to the 420 hp mark with a 4.0 litre v8, while your stang has a big old 5.0 v8 in a boat of a shell that will never outhandle a m3. keep dreaming.
hamronD73 1 year ago
@hamronD73 lol stang gets 410 hp on just 87 octane. Bimmer will blow up on 87. Its one of the most advanced V8s in the WORLD, with heads/valvetrain from the Aston V12 program/Duratec. It also has a fuckload more TQ than a little 4L V8.
Yes it does handle as good as a M3, and its faster than an M3 in a straight line.
This BIG BOAT of a shell is lighter than a fucking M3, idiot.
Oh and it don't cost a fucking mint.
$55k
$30K
Please get a fucking clue.
CJDUBstang 1 year ago
@CJDUBstang as far as im concerned the 2011 didnt beat the m3 but the boss did. also fuck m3s BMWs are gay as shit. ford still cant touch porsche on the ring. or even chevy lmfao. and that is sad. Will you please go shove your solid rear axle up your ass somewhere else? im pretty sure you have been owned more then enough on this vid freakan ay dude give it up.
numba1netsfan 1 year ago
@CJDUBstang nope
PurpleCaliper 1 year ago
@CJDUBstang your a typical american moron. if you knew anything about cars, and precision engineering, you would know. but you dont so ill save my effort on people like you.
hamronD73 1 year ago
@CJDUBstang
The 997 is a far superior car than the S197, dont kid yourself. I should get on Mustang forums right now and show them how much of a fool you are making of yourself.
Piperporsche180944 1 year ago
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a2vr6t 2 years ago
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LOL CJ, you think that's a good thing? Ignorance is bliss, eh?
a2vr6t 2 years ago
@threezerol944t Even she knows just about any Porsche is better than any mustang tho.
threezerol944t 2 years ago
how come a 1990 944 is worth 5 grand and a 00 mustang gt is too
carman08520 2 years ago
If it takes two mustangs to buy one porsche is it not true, then, that the mustang is only 1/2 as capable?? THIS IS SIMPLE MATH
carman08520 2 years ago
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carman08520 2 years ago
Mustangs provide that muscle feel and are for those who want that un restrained power feel. There different people that want the controlled, disciplined power feel. (Us porsche guys). Its like saying who is a better warrior a Samaurai or a Viking. They are simply different one is not better than the other and either one can kick som serious ass when trained properly
carman08520 2 years ago
Actually the difference between Porsche and Mustang guys is that Porsche guys have a VAGINA.
CJDUBstang 2 years ago
last time I checked I don't see any girls driving porsches....... ooohhh but MUSTANGS.........you think about it
carman08520 2 years ago
@carman08520 Bahahaha!!
threezerol944t 2 years ago
I tried to be nice but he got me started
carman08520 2 years ago
I never said girls don't drive stangs, but Porsche drivers def have vaginas.
CJDUBstang 2 years ago
maybe thats why you guys (well..girls and/or gays) lose races soo often.....you are checking out guys crotches while the men on the track leave you in the dust!! You need to focus on the art of driving.......oh that would require a porsche now wouldn't it?
carman08520 2 years ago
lol you need a porsche to learn the art of driving?
go to a race track some time.
Porsche guys get laughed at and shown "the art of driving" by guys in fox body stangs, to my recollection.
CJDUBstang 2 years ago
@CJDUBstang Its funny cause my mother is a huge mustang fan. LOL
threezerol944t 2 years ago
your mom's only a mustang fan cause i have one....lol
CJDUBstang 2 years ago
All you mustang guys coming up with excuses are a disgrace. The cobra lost and that's all there is to it. What ever happened to being able to take a loss. I'm a mustang guy myself and I own a 96 mustang. I've lost plenty of races and when I do I just take it for what It is "I got my ass handed to me".
solitario1 2 years ago
I think we just met the only decent mustang owner in the world...... my porsche has lost a couple races too
carman08520 2 years ago
Man, I dont know which group is more dense, vette guys or stang guys. LOL
threezerol944t 2 years ago
not fare, porchse was turboed, and the cobra was stock..
shaunp4trick 2 years ago
@shaunp4trick The 944 Turbo came stock, with, guess what, A TURBO!
pulsejet87 2 years ago 3
So a fair race would be a 4.6L Turbocharged V8 vs a 2.5L Turbocharged 4cyl? Lol.
Piperporsche180944 2 years ago
@Piperporsche180944 96 cobras were Not supercharged. this one might have been done aftermarket but i dont know the owner. the only cobras that were supercharged were the 03-04s. get your factys straight man.
shaunp4trick 2 years ago
Really shaunp4trick? Who said anything about a supercharger? It is common knowledge that the 03-04 Cobras were supercharged from factory. You really couldnt sense the sarcasm?
Your last comment "not fair, Porsche was turbocharged and the Cobra was stock", are you insinuating that a turbocharged 4.6L, DOHC, 32 Valve, V8 would even out the race against a turbocharged 2.5L, SOHC, 8 Valve, Inline 4? Lol
The Porsche left the factory with a turbocharger bolted to it. I have my facts straight.
Piperporsche180944 2 years ago
@Piperporsche180944 yeah but this is a 96 cobra, sooo its not FI.. so idk what the fuck your even trying to get at here?
shaunp4trick 2 years ago
Seriously, are you that dense? I am making fun of your initial comment, here, I will quote your statement "not fare, porchse was turboed, and the cobra was stock". Youre insinuating that having a turbocharger fitted to the 4.6L, DOHC, 32 Valve Mustang, then it would be a even race with a factory turbocharged 4 cyl Porsche. XD
Piperporsche180944 2 years ago
@Piperporsche180944 imsaying that its not a fair race at all..
shaunp4trick 2 years ago
See, thats what I htink is absolutly hilarious! The smaller engine with a turbo makes it a unfair race against the big engine?
Piperporsche180944 2 years ago
@Piperporsche180944 yeah well it kinda comes down to the FI on any car. FI can make tons of power no matter what. It can turn a 230hp mustang into a 500-600hp monster.. it can most likely do the same to the Porsche. The prosche is also a shit load lighter than the 3000+lb mustang
shaunp4trick 2 years ago
call it a fu$% up on ford's part. HMM let's build a bigger engine to compensate for the unesseary BS we packed into our coupe.----must be the american way....
carman08520 2 years ago
You're a fucking idiot. The Ford 32v DOHC was one of the greatest engines built, both in terms of power and RELIABILITY. Whole fucking world knows that.
Fuck the K-Segg uses the same fucking engine.
Piss on Porsche for making a smoky 4-banger that doesn't last as long.
CJDUBstang 2 years ago
Who is this CJDUBstang idiot making rampant generalizations...look at your screen name; a bit biased perhaps? And to compare the chassis the 951 is built on to a fox body? Are you kidding me? Take two stock ones, park one wheel on a curb and see which one the door still opens on. Some bendy 'stang? IT'S A CHEAP CAR. I know Cosworth made the great motors like the DFV (quick, go look it up on Wikipedia so you can pretend like you knew what that is!), but I'm sorry, that mustang is a shit pile.
swagger93 2 years ago
Come to a real track and see Porsche guys (996 & 997s) get their asses handed to them by the fox body guys.
I don't give a fuck about the provenance. I'm saying Porsche drivers can't drive.
If you guys wanna sit around though and masturbate to your beat to shit 25 y.o. 944s, whilst talking about other, superior Porsches you will never own, good for you.
CJDUBstang 2 years ago
Come up to Road America or Blackhawk this summer, CJDUBstang, and we'll see if those Porsche drivers don't know what they're doing. Keep telling yourself whatever you want out in fantasyland, Porsche owners are like any other car owner, some are good, some are excellent, some are mediocre and some suck ass. To say the brand of car has any bearing on driver quality is ludicrous in the least.
swagger93 2 years ago
you suck blackhawk.
CJDUBstang 2 years ago
You're like a child who wanders into a middle of a movie.
swagger93 2 years ago
By real track do you mean a drag strip? Cause that's the only place you'll have a chance.
eraent 2 years ago
Let me start by saying that you dont know who the fuck I am or what I got.. Now Im 21 years old and I own a 01 911 carrera.. oops I guess didn't know that................... my tires probably cost as much as your entire car.......a 944 is a great car and not only will it fuck a fox body up my car will demolish most of u assholes as I always do. Im 21 but Im a veteran at this game. Step you money game up and bring me a cobra to eat YOU PEASANT
carman08520 2 years ago
SHIT PILE that;s the word im looking for...lol
carman08520 2 years ago
Remember you are referring to ford's best engine.....It still can't touch porsche's 3.8 turbo. hmm both being boosted let's see the lowly 3.8 still makes almost 80 more wheel horse. Im sorry but you are never going to win this.......
carman08520 2 years ago
Germany may of lost both wars, but they make up for it in the cars they make ;)
orochimaruisugly 2 years ago 2
@orochimaruisugly
Yep, being built on war crimes sure helped them.
CJDUBstang 1 year ago
hahaha. I love it!! 944 Turbos are awesome!!!
m3trooper 2 years ago
Soooo, who needs a calculator? When one mentions the 944 model year it makes your ford even more inferior.
The video here does all the talking jealous little boy. Better sell your inferior stang, and get a 944 a well sorted one can be had for about 10k. With all the money saved, you could really make it fly. Oh wait.. im sure the bank really owns your stang, and youll be paying them for the rest of your life. Which means your really broke, and just a slave to your finance company.
threezerol944t 2 years ago
You obviously have no clue what your talking about. 944= 50/50 weight distribution. Weighs in at about 2900 lbs, mine is sittin at about 400 whp/450 flt lbs. 1 bar boost. 09' GT 3356 lbs, 300hp/320 ft lbs. Those are at the flywheel numbers, - about 15 % for power loss through the drivetrain..285/300ish. With a weight distribution of 54/46. A 944 with a 200$ chip, and high flow cat is capable of 300 whp, which is already a better power to weight.
threezerol944t 2 years ago
Power to weight is a big reason why Porsche is the most successful racing pedigree in the history of motorsports.
threezerol944t 2 years ago 2
Apples, and oranges really. Your comparing, a stop light racing low budget, disposable pony car, to race proven sports car heritage, built to last, its in a hole nother class. Its like comparing a thoroughbred race horse, to a mule. The thoroughbred being Porsche of course.
Face it, stangs are not the total package a Porsche is. Lightweight cars dont need v8s. Perhaps you need a physics refresher, or physics knowledge PERIOD. V8s are for idiots who cant understand power to weight.
threezerol944t 2 years ago
you're a total package
total homoseuxal package that is...
Cars made by a company that ONLY makes high end cars, and each costs a fucking fortune, better be better than a stang in a couple ways.
Power to weight? Lol you fucking jackoff, the $25K GT has power to weight ratio comparable to a 2009 Boxster, and superior to pretty much every 944 every built.
Better go get your calculator.
CJDUBstang 2 years ago
RE: CJDUBstang, 2010 Boxster S stock 12.7 in the quarter.... Enough said.
Piperporsche180944 2 years ago
Oh fucking please. The '11 GT coming out next month will be a 12s car also.
Fuck the old one was a low 13s car. The new one has over 400hp.
Way to keep up with the $30-40K bargain segment Porsche Ltd. homos.
CJDUBstang 2 years ago
You mean the old 14.2s car...
12's in the quarter is impressive with a stock car. Im looking forward to seeing the new Stang at the track to see what they really get.
Piperporsche180944 2 years ago
Uh no the current 4.6L 3v motor 05-10 is good for low 13s straight off the dealer lot. always has been.
CJDUBstang 2 years ago
Sorry, I was thinking new edge Mustangs, not the S197. So the S197's are keeping up with the Mach 1's?
Piperporsche180944 2 years ago
Pretty much the same ETs.
New one is gonna humiliate some Corvette owners probably, never mind that boat anchor camaro.
CJDUBstang 2 years ago
Thats damn impressive.
Piperporsche180944 2 years ago
@CJDUBstang Is the 1/4 mile all your feeble mind can think of when looking at specs? Maybe its all you look at because, its all your stang really has going for it.(decent 1/4 mile otb).
threezerol944t 2 years ago