RESPONSE #2 TO BRANDON CINTRON ON MEAT AND HEALTH #341

[TheOuijaBird]

All depends on what kind of vegetarian diet that lady had breast cancer on. Just because she was a vegetarian, doesn't mean she was a healthy one. Soy milks, veggie meals, oils, milk, dairy, eggs, butter, Bread, cooked food.

[SecretsOfLongevity]

@TheOuijaBird That lady was my aunt and she had varied the way she was eating but at one point for a period of time had been eating a low fat high carb practically vegan diet, high in fruit while living in India.

[TheOuijaBird]

@SecretsOfLongevity Well i'm sorry from my research. You have to live 80/10/10 100% for its long term dis-ease free benefits. You cannot do 80/10/10 for a year then jump back onto grains, breads, oils, alcohol?? etc.. and then claim that 80/10/10 will not prevent breast cancer. Got to take into account the hygiene products she used.

[TheOuijaBird]

@TheOuijaBird Was she blocking the important lymph glands underneath the armpits with heavy metals.This is a proven cause of breast cancer. If the toxins cannot get out through one of the bodies channels of elimination, this disease will accumulate

[TheOuijaBird]

@TheOuijaBird I like your way of thinking. It's at a quantum level. But I do hear a lot of flaws in your ethos.

[TheOuijaBird]

@TheOuijaBird once my house has been cleaned. I'm all for 80/10/10 with a bit of rice, and bit of cholesterol and saturated fat from some quality animal products. Most people are very narcissistic and are eating meat to grow large muscles. In context we all pretty much grew up with toxicity a good 20 years. You kinda need to get this stuff out. Even the standard vegan has a toxic diet, just because its raw doesn't make it healthy. soy cheeses, high nuts, heavy grains, cooked veggies, coffee,

[SecretsOfLongevity]

@TheOuijaBird I never said she did 811 and she lived in India for years. Dude get out of the one diet fits all delusion. Go visit Hippocrates and see the natural hygienists there that are recovering from cancer, try looking outside of only the narrow community for people getting results with their health. The point is my aunt got on low sugar paleo diet to reverse her cancer. My aunt's been involved in the health community for 25+ years and no she wasn't using toxic products.

[CBasie2856]

You weren't even a fruitarian going raw. No wonder you didn't get any health benefits.

[SecretsOfLongevity]

@CBasie2856 Do NOT spam my videos or you will be blocked. I was raw no I never did something as dumb and uneducated as becoming a fruitarian. I have plenty of videos explaining the extreme dangers of such a diet. I did get health benefits from being raw but

I also developed health problems like countless others.

[astronautagogo]

There are a few examples of long term fruitarians....."Fruitarian Anne" 20 plus years of it....she's 45 and doesn't look a day under 65.

[SecretsOfLongevity]

@astronautagogo Lol...

[Mitchell9oh5]

@astronautagogo looooool

[astronautagogo]

Same, high fruit rotted the enamel off of my front teeth. I had to get porcelain fillings to fill in the erosion.

[CBasie2856]

@astronautagogo

yeah, high pop and processed sugary foods can ruin the balance in our bodies, thus later causing us to have the same problems when eating a high fruit diet.

[astronautagogo]

@CBasie2856 Yeah dude I haven't consumed soda or processed sugars since the 8th grade. I go mostly fruit and a year later my teeth start losing major enamel. C'mon man, come back to reality I know you want to.

[CBasie2856]

@astronautagogo

i didn't lose major enamel. I don't know what happened to you, but your body was messed up and became out of balance.

[astronautagogo]

@CBasie2856 go on 30BAD and search enamel in the forum boards....endless results will show up. All just a coincidence?

[CBasie2856]

@astronautagogo

Well it is obviously and scientifically true that eating a lot of sugar can cause tooth decay, that is, when the human body is in an acid state or condition. Like all paleo gurus say, the emphasis that processed sugar can be bad to the human body is correct, however, are we forgetting that sugar may be helpful to the human body in its natural form.

But let's not forget the overall health benefits of the 80/10/10 diet, which there are many for many people.

[CBasie2856]

@astronautagogo

didn't you ever brush your teeth? It may have been helpful to use toothpaste. Toothpaste doesn't cause too much harm to the body, because its only a small amount.

Most of the diseases are 99% caused by the food that you put in your bodies. You are what you eat.

[astronautagogo]

@CBasie2856 Ha, yeah dude i've always brushed WITH Tom's twice daily. I always floss twice daily. Since adding some organic animal foods and upping my raw veg and cutting down the fruit a bit my teeth ARE GETTING BETTER! The enamel is literally COMING BACK.

That's the reality, not some absolutist dogma written by one guy who says he knows what's best for everybody.

[CBasie2856]

@astronautagogo

white teeth are not the only sign of health. There are many other ones.

[astronautagogo]

@CBasie2856 yeah because yellow/brown, overly sensitive fruitarian teeth are. Keep telling yourself whatever you got to I guess. Like I said, forum search enamel in the 30BAD forum boards. Find your own balance, everyone's is a little different. Peace

[CBasie2856]

@astronautagogo

I developed extreme amounts of dandruff on a high fat meat diet, and my ability to heal was suffering also.

[astronautagogo]

@CBasie2856 I understand. I don't advise high meat. I advise moderate/low meat. I'm personally not paleo. High raw fruit n' veg, sprouted grains, with a bit of organic keifer, eggs and grass feds by far, treats me the best.

[CBasie2856]

@astronautagogo

DUDE I thought you were a high meat low carber. Whatt??????????

[CBasie2856]

@astronautagogo

I did the same, and I never got the benefits that you did, when I went low carb.

[justsitthere100]

"Sprouted beans were not meant to be digested in the human body?" What do you base that on, or is that an unfounded opinion? People have bean consuming bean sprouts for millenia. Many would say they are amoung the healthiest foods on the planet. I've also never heard of raw sprouts causing flatulence. Please explain. Do you have any causative evidence, or is this just your experience?

[SecretsOfLongevity]

@justsitthere100 I base it on my experience as well as multiple articles I have read online (some I link to in the drop down menu) that discuss the high content of anti-nutrients they contain. People have only been consuming beans and grains since the agricultural revolution. They're the newest foods in our diets. In some places they hacen't even been eaten for 5,000 years yet.

Plant foods ROT in the colon, that's how they digest, again pay attention to my references.

[justsitthere100]

@SecretsOfLongevity I will likely not be bothering with you again after this. I find your research unfounded or at least biased. I find you wrong and dishonest and even rude. @SecretsOfLongevity I will likely not be bothering with you again after this. I find your research unfounded or at least biased. I find you wrong and dishonest and even rude.

[SecretsOfLongevity]

@justsitthere100 I'm rude for disagreeing with you and pointing out that your points are already answered in my references. Ok now there's one I haven't heard before!

[justsitthere100]

@SecretsOfLongevity I feel you were rude because of your tone, threat to block me, & calling me a troll. You really need to be more polite if you want to gain a folloing and sponsors.

[justsitthere100]

You mentioned you were taking fermented cod liver oil. Are you still using it? Dr. Brian Clement is adament that all fermented fats are carcinogens. I believe he has done the groundwork to substantiate this as he takes a scientific approach and challenges others to disprove him. What do you think about this? Do you think fermented oils are carcinogenic?

[SecretsOfLongevity]

@justsitthere100 He says rancid oils are carcinogenic. FCLO has had thousands of years of use and the fermentation process allows new nutrients to be formed that are extremely rare in the diet. Look into the work of the weston A. Price Foundation to learn more about FCLO.

[justsitthere100]

@SecretsOfLongevity As I told you, Brian Clement, a word authority, clearly states that all fermented foods are carcinogens, not just rancid oils. You can see for yourself by searching for Brian Clement on dairy. If you do the research and are honest about it, you will also find that he and several other world authorities on diet & longevity agree that all bottled oils are also unsafe and not recommended as they are highly processed. I would ask you to be more open minded to other viewpoints.

[SecretsOfLongevity]

@justsitthere100 I don't care what Brian says, he's deluded on a great many topics. The fats in kefir don't ferment and become carcinogens, that's an insane claim. They SERVE fermented foods at Hippocrates so no, not all fermented foods are unhealthy. To Brian it's just the "animal foods" that are which clearly shows his biased paradigm. They also sell and use bottled oils at Hippocrates. If you want to refute anything here, POST SOME REFERENCES. Open mindedness requires proof, not opinion.

[justsitthere100]

@SecretsOfLongevity I guess you have a point. I will try to provide studies if I respond in future. Apparently, only you are allowed to express opinions, but Brian's word is proof at this point in my view. As for being deluded, again, you are showing disrespect. The man is an icon in the field of nutrition. You have a lot of nerve. And what is "proven" today can be disproven tomorrow. There are many variables. Are testimonials acceptable proof? Noone has more testimonials than Hippocrates.

[SecretsOfLongevity]

@justsitthere100 I express my opinion WITH a backing of evidence, there's a difference. Every health teacher has a responsibility to provide evidence for their stance no matter how many letters they have after their name. I have met with Brian numerous times, one on one and I definitely don't disrespect him or his work. What I am calling deluded is certain philosophies of his that are clearly based in him wanting to stick to a vegan paradigm for the label's sake. The Hippocrates Institute...

[SecretsOfLongevity]

@SecretsOfLongevity ...is a great place to go if you're sick and to heal (for many types of diseases), however their testimonials don't show long term sustainability of their program. I have never met anyone except for a few ppl that work at the institute (incl. Brian and Ann-Maria) and who have been capable of continuing their program over the long term. About a dozen ppl from my community have been there as well and all of them have added back foods that the HHI deems as unfit for consumption.

[justsitthere100]

Hi again, I forgot to mention my name. It is Reno. I also want to mention that I attribute a good part of my success on a vegan lifestyle to the fact that I eat raw, ripe, fresh, (organic) local seasonal plant foods and I do plenty of tai chi, qigong, yoga and meditation. Also, although we are able to eat meat, as we are a very adaptive species, I believe we can choose to evolve back to veganism. Hope you enjoy Hippocrates. Happy New Year.

[SecretsOfLongevity]

@justsitthere100 Thanks for the kind words Reno.

[justsitthere100]

Also, if you or your readers would like to contact me directly, I may be able to help others through balanced transitions to vegetarianism & beyond & would love to do so. All can feel free to email me at raaquino@hotmail.com Namaste

[justsitthere100]

You are the youngest person I've encountered in this and other new-age-type fields. I hope you realize that have a genius IQ as do I and most long term vegetarians, past and present. I wish I could support you financially, but unfortunately I can only send my kind words for now. PS-though I've never been to the Life-change program, I've personally met Brian Clement & Anne Wigmore.

[justsitthere100]

We used to be able to produce useable B12, for example. Also, interestingly, all other mammals are able to produce their own vitamin C in the pancreas, not that this is a nutrient found in animal foods. Personally, I have not had a need to include any animal foods, though I am open to the idea that others may, and that I may in the future. Also, this is my first response to your videos. I think you're incredible and inspriational.

[justsitthere100]

Also, you are probably aware that many plant foods are precursers to nutrients obtainable from meat besides hemo-iron. Examples are beta-carotene becoming vitamin A, Sunlight becoming D3, B12 becoming colon conlonized & absorbable (intrinsic factor), cholesterol, amino acids, etc. The way I see it, some of us can develop the ability to develop the abilities to produce these nutrients.

[justsitthere100]

I have found, as 34 year vegetarian, that one of the key nutrients needed is not so much protein, but lysene. It is a key base amino acid that is rich in all legumes, most of which are complete protein on their own. The primary year-round source of this for raw vegans is sprouts. This will help with resistance training & body building, should one wish to do so.

[Healthenthusiast]

This isnt a competition

[SecretsOfLongevity]

@Healthenthusiast Of course not, it's a debate.

[SecretsOfLongevity]

@Consistency87 The point about sweat is completely irrelevant. It's comparing a lack of carotenoids in the skin vs. pale skin. Sure maybe if someone was sweating they'd have better looking skin?!? But what does that prove? Carotenoids are still built up in the skin because humans have a lowered ability to convert them.

Don't even try to make the "we didn't evolve to eat meat" argument with me. I've posted my main video on that topic enough for you to find it and respond there if you'd like.

[SecretsOfLongevity]

@Consistency87 Again look at the scientific references in that article. I used some of the same studies in the references for this video. Less than 45% of women and men are unable to convert enough beta-carotene to retinol. This is not to avoid toxicity!!! This doesn't even meet the LOW end of the requirements!

[SecretsOfLongevity]

@Consistency87 It appears in the skin because our bodies have a limited ability to change it into vitamin A. so the fact that it's in our skin demonstrates our need for fully formed retinol. Of course beta carotene is a wonderful antioxidant and the more we have of it in our diet the better!

Read more about it here:

donmatesz.blogspot .c om/2011/01/study-people-prefer­-carotene-complexion .ht ml

[7Highlander]

Horsetail and springtime horsetail are good for teeth and bones, as are crushed/powdered eggshells since they contain something like 30 trace minerals which are good for teeth and bones (boron, molybdenum, strontium...)

[VibrationsofaWave]

The bigger picture is not that people eat by rules, but they intake a proper amount of nutrients and fuels. That means that different people have different requirements. That is something one needs to talk about with a dietician or self realize. The meat or no meat debate is a decision on the basis on your own needs. More importantly is that quality, toxins, and nutrition in food. Eating conventional produce as a raw vegan is no worse than eating conventional meat when talking about toxins.

[VibrationsofaWave]

Different people use diets differently. Someone who has ancestors with a predominantly plant based diet and lives on a  plant based diet is not going to do well in an animal based diet. Raw diets and only meat diets will only sustain a very low amount of the global population. When talking about animal products one should be careful to mention what. One has to refer using the embryo, secretions such as milk, scales, flesh or what. Different animal products work differently for different people.

[MichaeLightify]

@SecretsOfLongevity grow ur hair out, duh!

[zuphu]

Take your vegan iron with vitamin C to increase your ability to absorb it.

[redmeatheart]

@Consistency87 What?

[sandpiper22]

Your aunt could have stopped using/ingesting toxic chemicals, changed other aspects of her environment, as you know cancer is caused by a billion things and eating meat again may have been only part of her journey to wellness or had nothing to do with it all....

[SecretsOfLongevity]

@sandpiper22 She's one of the msot health conscious people I've ever met. She doesn't ingest toxic chemicals and has always paid extremely close attention to every aspect of her lifestyle. Meat saved her life.

[sandpiper22]

@SecretsOfLongevity Okay, but there certainly does seem to be more meat eaters getting the cancer than veggieheads. If the meat being ingested has been treated lovingly in an optimal environment there are likely benefits to it - Vit. B. Still, there are a million factors to consider as every case in so individual. There are tumors that are extracted from womens' breasts that are full of parabens from makeup, shampoo, lotions, deodorants also, but you hopefully she wasn't using any of that.

[SecretsOfLongevity]

@sandpiper22 She was a vegetarian sometimes vegan in India practice yoga and meditation all day, at one point she was climbing mountains in New Zealand. She had a pretty pure lifestyle. More omnivores get sick because of the way animal foods bioaccumulate toxicity. Get off the factory farmed, grain fed foods and on the organic lifestyle and you make huge differences in your toxicity load.

[adkpinecone]

Zak you should check out VenomFangX channel on youtube and answersingenesis on google so you can see the other side of evolution which is creation! Intelligent design makes more logical sense. I invite you to look at these sources I have provided.

[SecretsOfLongevity]

@adkpinecone I've been aware of their channels for ages, they don't use logic, believe me!

[adkpinecone]

I would love to see you debate Dr. Jameth Sheridan or Dr Sebi.

[SecretsOfLongevity]

@adkpinecone That's like me asking you to debate Fred Bisci. Why would I debate someone who has 10x the amount of experience as me? Debates happen between people who have generally been in the game the same amount of time: Brian clement vs. Dr. Graham (it's happened before), Dr. Cordain vs. Dr. Campbell etc...

[tsunamimachine1]

@SecretsOfLongevity well said!!

[adkpinecone]

When are you going to make a video to Dr. Udo Erasmus on his CLA article? Lol :P

[SecretsOfLongevity]

@adkpinecone I'm not.

[rzarzarzarza84]

Just curious Zak, are you seeing sediment in your urine?

[morman29]

@SecretsOfLongevity at 3.15 that's addressed to me I have looked for them There are NO CLINICS IN THE WORLD THAT ARE INCREASING INTAKE OF ANIMAL PRODUCTS.

[morman29]

@Lakhesis1976 don't you mean "Liar Keiths" whom claimed to a vegan for 20 years but consumed dairy and eggs every chance she got.lol

[CharlesTRose]

epic vid! and amazing patience for all of the parrots chirping what they heard somewhere without actual research.

Drives me crazy too,you know bloodwork isnt expensive and will easily disprove alot of this vegan nonsense.Maybe I'll put up a vid with my lab results after 5 years paleo

[SecretsOfLongevity]

@CharlesTRose That would be awesome to see! And thanks :p

[ThePantherVision]

@Lakkhesis1976 Thank you. No, I'm not trolling; the ONLY allegiance I have is to my own body. I've been on both sides of the fence on this issue, and I would never endanger my chances of making a healthy, full recovery from anorexia/bulimia. This is a life and death issue for me... I will do ANYTHING to improve my health.

[Lakkhesis1976]

@ThePantherVision First port of call then: can you access pasture fed raw milk and raw butter + grass fed beef bones (for broth) locally? IMO, these three additions alone could make a huge impact on your health within weeks. Very interested to hear what Zak suggests too.

[Lakkhesis1976]

@ThePantherVision I also highly recommend getting a referral to a psychologist who practises cognitive behavioural therapy to help you with both the eating disorder stuff, and trauma from having viewed so much vegan propaganda.

I recommend CBT specifically because it has been shown, in countless studies, to resolve depression, anxiety, PTSD etc... in an impressive percentage of cases. It is solutions focussed, practical and no-bullshit.

[Lakkhesis1976]

@ThePantherVision Lierre Keiths 'The Vegetarian Myth' will also be of value to you.

[Lakkhesis1976]

Awesome Zak, you truly understand what constitutes a good debate.

[ThePantherVision]

Is it possible to reap all the benefits of animal products from dairy & eggs alone? I'm finding it hard to reconcile my need to get better, the need for animal products (be they the animals themselves or their products) and the welfare of the animals themselves. I feel it is unbecoming of my character to exploit something to make myself better... but I MUST continue to better myself everyday. I am driven to overcome this disease once and for all.

[Lakkhesis1976]

@ThePantherVision YES, it is possible to reap huge benefits from dairy and eggs alone. Provided that the dairy is pasture-fed and raw, and provided the eggs are also pasture-raised and also raw or softly cooked.

I think that if you can access a small family farm, or products from an Amish community etc..., you will be quite surprised by how much these producers genuinely care for their animals welfare. Don'r be afraid to ask questions.

You don't even need large amounts of these products IMO.

[RawAthlete]

@ThePantherVision I'd give meat a shot. I've been on raw dairy for a while without meat and I felt pretty good, but eating meat makes me feel even better

[ThePantherVision]

Now I'm looking like shit, feeling like shit & don't know where to turn to... add to that, ALL of the food I'm eating -- dates, bananas, oranges, ALL FRUIT -- is problematic for my teeth. I find that eating PLENTY of greens mitigates some of the drawbacks of the fruit (extremely addictive) but the underlying need for meat is not being met alone by eating pounds upon pounds of spinach, lettuce & greens.

[ThePantherVision]

I'm really scared & emotionally traumatized after seeing such videos... but I KNOW I need animal products. I have seen myself (much like Brandon has on his vegan diet) that animal products are beneficial.

Where do you think would be a good place to restart my efforts? I was eating about 3 lbs of beef a day, 1/2 lb of cheese, 1 lb of chicken & ALMOST no carbs. I felt great, looked great & was excelling in everything.

[ThePantherVision]

I made AMAZING gains in strength, muscle growth and, generally, everything in my body showed improvement. And now, since I've adopted an 8/1/1 diet, I'm suffering from a lot of problems: fatigue, no concetration, memory has gone to shit. So many problems, too little time to address them all.

I feel the need for animal products, but I'm experiencing a great deal of grief from watching videos like "if slaughter houses had glass walls," "Earthlings," "The Best Speech You Will Ever Hear." etc.

[Lakkhesis1976]

@ThePantherVision I've had several interactions with you on youtube that make me unfortunately suspicious that these comments are ultimately trolling... BUT...

Provided they're not...

First up, you are putting a lot of pressure on yourself to suddenly dive into mega amounts of animal products, which isn't necessary. You can start slow. Zak's example of bone broth is a very good one- you can start there, knowing that bones are ultimately 'waste' material that would otherwise be thrown (cont'd)

[Lakkhesis1976]

@ThePantherVision (cont'd) away by farmers. And/or, you could look at introducing raw milk and/or butter as a first port of call.

In my experience, massive amounts of muscle meat is not crucial to recovery. What you ultimately need to do to start rebuilding from 8/1/1 is to recovery your mineral stores. That means increasing minerals (broth/milk) AND increasing saturated fats to help absorb them (milk/butter).

The films you listed are designed to traumatise and scare you into veganism (cont'd)

[Lakkhesis1976]

@ThePantherVision (cont'd) and present an extreme, biased form of propaganda. They largely feature factory farming and large scale abattoir footage. If you can source a small, pasture based farm and farmers who practice good animal husbandry, you're looking at an ENTIRELY different picture.

If you reintroduce animal products into your diet you need to accept that this entails death. I highly recommend looking up Eisensteins article, 'The Ethics of Eating Meat'.

[Lakkhesis1976]

@ThePantherVision PS: Apologies if my trolling assumption was incorrect.

[RawAthlete]

@ThePantherVision Thanks for sharing actually. I'd recommend you learn about native american tribes and their lifestyles, I can't think of a name of a book directly relate to meat, but they ate meat a very spiritual way, understanding the cycles of life and death. "Earthlings" is designed to scare you and it's sad it could ruin someone's health. Just lower sugars for a while, but transition to a diet with meta and starches, almost no carbs will make you feel terrible after a while

[redmeatheart]

@ThePantherVision thats quite alarming and it was something that happened to me as well on 811, try increasing fats like avocado, flaxseed, hemp seeds, soaked nuts, mature coconuts, loads of salads, green juices and green smoothies. Berries, low sugar fruits, some organic free range eggs if you choose, some grass fed meat...again if you choose it's up to you. Carbs like sweet potato / quinoa might help, experiment see what works for you. Only you know what works for you and what doesn't.

[ThePantherVision]

I've been recovering from 9 years of anorexia/bulimia for the last 5 months now, feeling great and making amazing gains in weight (from 90 lbs to 145 lbs) but there are some consistent issues I'm having with my current diet. My first month of recovery was a diet high in fat, high in protein and low in carbohydrates -- worked great for at least 1 1/2 months, but then I ran into trouble: severe edema and something resembling a pre-diabetic state.

[ravendream33]

Have you been using Adya Clarity ? I destroyed the enamel on my teeth with that product and it's taken a long time to rebuild it.

[SecretsOfLongevity]

@ravendream33 Thankfully I never used it!

[nobadtrips]

ha. CASE CLOSED ;)

[RawAthlete]

Oh and hyPOventilation reduces acidity by increasing CO2, not hyperventilation. Hypoventiliation mimics meditation when one breathes less and CO2 levels are raised. I forget what happens after that but I am certain of this. Ray peat has an article on it.

[SecretsOfLongevity]

@RawAthlete Cool, I didn't know you could do more than just hyperventilate as I thought that pretty much included both the in and out breath :p

I basically just meant breathing controls the body's PH way more than diet does.

[RawAthlete]

@SecretsOfLongevity Actually I might be confusing this. Hypoventilation reduces blood pH, but I think it mayhave a different effect on pH elsewhere. Hyperventilation is not really a good thing though, usually it's associated with stress, that's why deep breathing is recommended to slow it down.

[RawAthlete]

When I was raw vegan for 13 months, I trained the same way I do now, heavy weight, low repetitions, power training, strength, speed. I had increased recovery time, and much greater susceptibility to overtraining. In fact at 13 months I was severely overtrained and had some libido issues, horrible allergies. Today I drink raw milk, and more animal foods, less fruit, and more seasonal food, and I can train WAYYYY MOREEE than I did raw vegan. Protein is important for the nervous system

[RawAthlete]

You can eat meat and cure cancer at the same time? HOLY SHIT! Dude I really like this video, I'm like 10 min into it. What type of training you doin now? You said you are not into bodybuilding.. but you don't have to be in order to gain some mass. You're still very skinny so I'd like to figure out how to gain mass for you. I think deadlifts are crucial. Furthermore, you think Iron levels are the reason you crashed? I think low protein makes you more susceptible to overtraining.

[SecretsOfLongevity]

@RawAthlete I was getting enough protein when I crashed, I had a blood test with low iron levels and my immune system was crashing as well as energy levels. I have a deadlift bar and can continue those without a gym membership, I just need some new plates as I max out at like 160 pounds and I can go way over that in the gym for a deadlift!

[RawAthlete]

@SecretsOfLongevity Sounds good, they are the best overall mass and strength builder. I've found rocks in trails of 200-300+ lbs those are good to deadlift too if you find one.

[ThomasDeanNordlum]

thanks as always, zac. you are so correct about farting too. one question: would you still recommend growing and eating semi-regularly young sprouts?

[SecretsOfLongevity]

@ThomasDeanNordlum Yeah, although I'm going to start stir frying them (sometimes!) or blending them in soups etc because way too often I find they don't digest that well and the really small jar sprouts don't chew up that easily.

[ShotDownInFlames2]

You're on the front line of good nutrition and of common sense, thanks.

[Mitchell9oh5]

This what interesting, I watched the whole video with an open mind and can't say you convinced me to eat meat. I've been pondering adding eggs and fish back into my diet but I strongly feel fruit vegetables and nuts and seeds are the way to go. I just think after 17 years of mainstream dairy, meat and processed foods I have a lot of work to do with my insides to start seeing change.

[RawAthlete]

@Mitchell9oh5 Try it for some time, but there is definitely no long term benefit to raw foods, I think there is a good short term benefit. Try mixing it up, but if youve been on a high protein diet for a while, low protein may be a good change. But intermittent fasting and low-carbing could activate the same exact mechanisms

[SecretsOfLongevity]

@Mitchell9oh5 Yeah the point of the video wasn't to convince anyone to do anything, but to back up my reasoning for my original statement which caused this whole cascade of events and comments. :)

[daemona71]

and also to say that your videos help me do the mental switch in looking at meat.

Also, DurianRider doesn't sound as educated or have scientific facts like you do and he sounds like a duck to me. 30 bananas... silly

[Lakkhesis1976]

@daemona71 Quaaaaaaaaack!

[daemona71]

@Lakkhesis1976

that is exactly how durianass sounds

[Lakkhesis1976]

@daemona71 In Australia, we call his accent 'bogan'.

[redmeatheart]

My favourite lines in this video "if your a deny-er of evolution i cant help you there, you need some help understanding basic logic" and "If your education on ketosis is just from Durianrider's dumb video's about people falling over on a finish line" I like both you guys though.....but those two moments really made me laugh.

[daemona71]

Very good response and observation, Zak. I am also thinking to switching to red meat. I have only eaten fish and chicken for the past 5 years or so and before that I was strict vegetarian and vegan at some point. I have done some raw food, but figured that wasn't the proper diet for humans. I am curious to see if it will help me lose some weight also.

Do you know where in Toronto can I find grass fed meat?

[redmeatheart]

do you eat grains?

[WinWinSituations]

#341 (3.14) YESSS. OK, so here's a comment to re-l8 to this video: I had two bison burgers tonight. They were absolutely delicious and digestible. As for bananas, I wouldn't even eat 3.14 a day, let alone 30!

[SecretsOfLongevity]

@WinWinSituations Lol, nice :p

[Mitchell9oh5]

when i look at your face your suite turns green

[redmeatheart]

Wow they ostracized that Aaron guy, just for eating a bit of meat....why doesn't that surprise me? 30 bad is the most fascist forum i've ever seen.

[Lakkhesis1976]

@redmeatheart They very transparently use cult tactics to keep it going. Only I'm not sure Harley and Freelee are clever enough, either individually or combined, to actually be knowingly or strategically doing so. Cult tactics tend to naturally emerge in the deigns of narcissists though.

[Lakkhesis1976]

@Lakkhesis1976 *dealings*

[veganprincess01]

8:46 OMG!!!! nice :)

[talesfromthemidwest]

Good vid bro.