cyclists you are all paranoid wearing cameras to record incidents. motorists have never done that. Give blood kill a cyclist you are all a damn nuisance on the road
cyclists you are all paranoid wearing cameras to record incidents. motorists have never done that. Give blood kill a cyclist you are all a damn nuisance on the road
dont these people have better things to do with thier life than record them selves cycling sad people. go out rioting and looting thats sounds like more fun
Bikes are harder to see, this is a known fact. People are usually just looking for cars; no damage was done, honest mistake. I mean hell, drivers do worse to other drivers and you don't see that shit posted all over YouTube.
I think the cyclist rode very responsibly in this example... commendably so even.
If I saw this out on the streets... well, I probably wouldn't say anything, 'cause it would sound condecending, but I'd likely smile and nod approvingly ;)
Taxi was being a bully, no doubt. I encounter this sort of thing all the time... wouldn't bother posting a video about it, but that doesn't make the taxi driver any less of a dick
Just for their tiny minds, the cyclist did nothing wrong or illegal here. There is no law about lights during the day, or hiviz or helmets for that matter.
Stop whinging like girls, grow up and give people respect on the roads and on here. If you want to know why a cyclists might ride in a particular way dont whine, get on a National Standards course and learn for yourselves.
i was hoping he would have pulled out and hit you. all you cyclists do the SAME FUCKING THINGS like drive in front of cars that are pulling out, or come into the car lane and think that you have the right of way when in reality all passing drivers are thinking about how utterly gay you look riding your damn bike and wearing those stupid leotards. i hate all of you cyclists. i really do. next cyclist i see, I'm going to scare the SHIT out of them
i thin the taxi driver did not notice the bike was coming and he tried to go when there was enough space for him to go from the coming traffic but he noticed the bike was coming at the last minute :) thats what i get form this :)
I think the law is that cyclists have to ride on the road unless cycle lane is provided on the pavement. They swerve sometimes yeah, so with that in mind, you allow them more room. Traffic holds me up in my car, and bikes do aswell sometimes. I sit back, and wait.
If you are talking to me, I suggest the following.
1) Many items can be delivered by train.
2) How will workers get to work, Um look at places like Copenhagen, BY BIKE.
3) you need some motorised transport, but not the levels that are there at present.
4)You can get spares for your cycle, with another bike.
5) I submit that a much larger percentage of people riding a bike will SAVE THE GOVERNMENT A FORTUNE. LOWER HEALTH COSTS, LESS OBESITY, LESS POLLUTION.
Places like Amsterdam, and Copenhagen should remind everyone that the Bicycle is a valid mode of transport, and is even used to deliver/ carry goods.
It is possible to greatly reduce the reliance on the motor vehicle, in fact you could have 75% travel by bike with almost no detrimental effect and a massive positive effect if you designed cities and towns the right way.
Sure emergency service may need motorised transport and perhaps some small trucks and transport for elderly.
KrunchyJD > ".. cyclist is a vehicle, and has the same rights .."
If bicyclists are going to be demanding, then it's probably not unreasonable to expect the same requirements as other vehicles - testing, license, insurance, registration, taxes, and so on. My vehicle was struck twice by bicyclists riding on the bike path in front of my last apartment. Neither had testing, license, or insurance, nor the means to pay the damages. My insurance rates went up instead.
Cyclists do have the same rights, and yes the same responsibilities as well. In terms of the taxes argument, when a person rides instead of drives they actually save money, through less pollution, congestion, lower health costs, etc Were the cyclists who struck you legally at fault, if they were then that is more reason to have plain clothed cops with camera's. Remember cyclists have the same rights AND responsibilities. Im not suggesting they should act otherwise.
KrunchyJD > ".. the same responsibilities as well .."
That's all sounds fine when said, but, without insurance, many cyclists do not have the financial means to pay for the damage they could (or, in my case, did) cause.
> ".. Were the cyclists who struck you legally at fault .."
The vehicles were parked legally in front of the apartment. Many cyclists rode by each day and I suspect nearly every vehicle in the neighborhood had been stuck (in some manner) at least once.
Stewart, are you saying you parked on a bikepath? Please clarify?
Licensing and testing doesnt stop the fact that car insurers have to pay out £millions each year, and that the MIB has to cover the damage 1.5m uninsured drivers cause. (There are estimated to be 3m regular cyclists in the UK - even if they all caused havoc they could never match the costs incurred by the uninsured driver)
downfader2 > ".. are you saying you parked on a bikepath? .."
No, the sidwalk in front was divided between pedestrians and a bicycle path, with cars parked on the side of the roadway next to that bicycle path. That road, coming from nearby busy street, intersected with another street leading to several stores a few blocks away. The bicycle path was popular with cyclists riding to and from those stores.
The best solution all round is to create better infrastructure for cycling, but if you cant do that, have plain clothed cops on bikes with camera's and book everyone who breaks road rules motorists and cyclists
Mate that is absolute crap, the bloke in this video cant drive and shouldnt have a liscence, there is no excuse for not giving way. People have to understand that a cyclist is a vehicle, and has the same rights, if he was a car and another car kept comming out when they were supposed to give way you would say they are in the wrong its no different if its a cyclist.
By cycling instead of driving you actually save the community and the government around 70 cents us per killometre. You have a net positive impact. What you are saying is almost the same as someone saying that you should pay someone else for the privelige of you going to work, it makes no sense. Cars cost the government billions every year, and your registration does not cover the full cost. As a motorist you are being subsidised not the other way around. So go on be a cyclist and help everyone.
Goverments have huge incomes from the 80% tax we pay on each litre of fuel, £400 a year road tax, and VAT on everything we buy to keep a vehicle running, plus income tax from workers building cars and running every aspect of road use, how much do cyclists contribute? bugger all
OK, im not from the UK, but if what you say is true then, you still are not taking into account the savings to government from people cycling instead of driving, this includes, the cost to the health system of a sedentary lifestyle, the cost of the carbon emmisions, the cost of congestion created by cars, the health cost of the pollution by cars..
Aside from this, if you think cyclists have a free ride take it up yourself. Most cyclists also own a car.
KrunchyJD > ".. building cars .. build bicycles instead .."
Get real. What are the elderly, the very young, the disabled, those carrying heavy loads, those traveling greater distances, those in horrible weather, or similar supposed to ride? Clearly, bicycles will never be an adequate substitute for the automobile. Too many have gained a far greater level of freedom from the automobile.
Im not saying there is no place for the car, it is just one transport option though. It is also one that should be made more environmentally friendly eg ellectric cars.
What I was talking about is the suggestion that workers build cars visa vie they will be out of a job. Building bycicles creates work for the people who dont build cars.
There is many times though when cars are not needed, eg short trips to work, shops to buy a few things etc
I am not saying there is no place for cars, I own a car I just only use it when I cant realistically ride a bike.
I recognise that sometimes you have to go far, or carry heavy or large things, im not suggesting otherwise. Many car trips though could be undertaken by bike, and that should be encouraged.
I was responding to the idea that less cars would kill manufacturing jobs, by saying that some of the loss of manufacturing work could go into manufacturing bicycles.
@baldandold - the money generated via fuel and VED gets sucked up partially by the damage that the motorvehicle creates. Your issue is with government, not with cyclists going about their legal activities. You also dont seem to realise that an IAM study this year found that the vast majority of cyclists leave a taxed and insured car on the drive.
Downfader2, motorists contribute far more than ever gets spent on roads, roads ONLY exist for mechanically propelled vehicles, cycles pay nothing to use the roads I pay to use, be gratefull for cars, vans, trucks, buses, or ride on fields and keep out my way FFS
2) In practically all countries excluding a few, cyclists actually subsidise motorists because roads are funded out of general revenue, with the insurance charge only partly covering the cost of road maintanance. A bike does little damage to the road, but the cyclist still pays income tax.
The cost of fuel does not cover the cost of ripping it up, and the damage it does.
baldandold you're speaking absolute nonsense and you know it. Go to your local library and look through the archives and see just how many roads predate the motorvehicle. Its not about paying to use the roads its about why you contribute - you make yourself out to be a bit of a road hog tbh.
I buy £120 worth of diesel a week at 80% going to HMG, I also pay £300 PA "RFL" (Road Fund Licence), i make that over £5200 for HMG, plus VAT on tyres/parts/servicing, cyclists want to use MY road for free (or "pay" nil road tax?) then get in my way?
just tell me again HOW a chinese-built pushbike gets to the new owner here?
You pay duty/vat for the fuel, not to drive. I can buy petrol/diesel and never ever use it on the road... (don't quote red diesel that's for non taxable use).
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ROAD TAX.
You pay for your tyres, for your car and their production, not for the road.
You pay for your servicing for your car and the labour, not for the road.
It's not your road... everyone that pay tax owns it, and magically we all pay tax.
Band A cars don't pay VED, shoudl they be kicked off the road? And they pay less duty because they have a better mpg. Should they have less ownership?
By your rates, anyone that has a car that does 10000gsm co2 and 0.1mpg should have more ownership to the road?
Bikes are transported here, of course, but I wasn't arguing about freight transport, we are talking about tax and road maintenance costs being higher than fuel duty+ved.
Yes we all make mistakes regardless of experience and the vehicle we drive. I have a licence to drive almost any vehicle and been driving for years. I do about 45000 miles a years. Even with my experience, I still make the odd mistake and when others make mistakes, I am tolerant towards that. If someone pulls out in front, obviously it's not intentional, but if someone is constantly on my arse, then that really pisses me off. It's as if they are in my space and I don't like that.
I suppose its about doing everything you can to limit the chance of you making a mistake. Taking time at junctions, getting enough sleep, not running lights. Just common sense aint it, LOL!
You know what, we are all human and all make mistakes whatever vehicle we ride or drive.What we need to do is give each other a little bit more room and a little bit more respect on the roads.
Wasted enough time on this video. I've been riding for decades. If I posted a video to whine about everything seen on the road I didn't like, this site's server would be filled up. Stuff like this happens and, in many cases, it's just as much the fault of cyclists as vehicle drivers. Instead of looking solely at drivers, it's time to look at what we're doing as well. This cyclist was riding sloppily, wobbling all over the road. If he had not been doing so, this situation may not have happened.
Ok so if you drive sloppily its my right to nearly take you out with a bigger car is it. The cyclist had right of way and there is NO EXCUSE for not giving way, the cyclist was in his lane, NO EXCUSE
taxi drivers are typicaly very agressive pushy and rude... pushing out like that is to stop any following vehicle so he can pull out rather than waiting to be given way to pull out.
The bicyclist is mostly responsible for this incident. He moves sharply to the right side of the lane (at 0:13) like he intended to turn right. The taxi driver, believing he is turning right, starts to pull out before realizing cyclist is just wobbling all over the road instead of actually turning. He then stops to allow cyclists to pass unharmed. If cyclists used hand signals more often (very few do), drivers wouldn't have to try reading minds to figure out what cyclists actually intend to do.
That's pure bullcrap, Sc200pER. And darn offensive. First, there are several places for him to turn right to, the most obvious being the sidewalk on other side of road. Second, I'm just as much a driver as I'm a rider, and getting tired of the rude comments directed at car drivers by riders.
As said before, I've seen just as much, if not more, bad driving from bicyclists as I've seen from car drivers. And I'm certainly seeing more outright rudeness from bicyclists (such as yourself).
I drive more than I cycle and take pride in my driving (I have a national B racing licence so I enjoy myself on the circuits). Unfortunately from my experience most so called 'proffesional' drivers are innattentive or impatient.
Anyway, the taxi driver was a tool. Even if the ccylist was turning right you don't creep into the lane until safe to complete the manouvre.
Fine, Sc200pER. And are you going to sit there and tell us you've never made a mistake while either driving or riding? Why then was your mistake simply that and this incident in the "same mould as the other speeding, blind bastards?" Enough said. Take care.
mookie2637 > "Oh yeah. I often turn right, into the, er, pavement..."
Go anywhere bicyclists arrive at a destination in significant numbers and you'll quickly see plenty of cyclists doing exactly that (crossing street to opposite sidewalk).
In any town or city, cyclists cross streets, change lanes, cut intersection corners, and more, all with little or no warning to others. This undisciplined riding behavior confuses vehicle drivers, causing exactly these types of incidents.
That's a fair point about hand signals, and yes, cyclists should follow the rules of the road, but if someone does not signal you should assume they are going forward if you are in a car.
Clearly the minicab driver is in the wrong here but I can't help wondering if the cyclist is being unnecessarily pigheaded. If you cycle as if the whole world revolves around you, it's no wonder that you will end up involved in road incident after incident (as these videos appear to show). I've cycled in Cambridge and do so regularly in central London and find that with the right amount of assertiveness combined with proper anticipation, it is possible to avoid conflict with motorists.
Perhaps you're unwilling to face up to the increasingly impatient disrespectful bullying attitude shown by some motorists. Many vids show careless pushy motoring associated with misjudged speed. Could be you're cycling at a pace within petrolhead brain expected range on quieter roads. Do you remember 1970s when we didn't have to commute to work alongside a traffic jam & cycle lanes didn't exist? I do.
I think part of your mistake is that you use the cycle lanes. In my experience (on most of the busiest roads in Central London and local A roads) is that motorists will respect you more if you don't ride like some granny cycling to the local shop.
I use cycle lanes when it makes sense, but take a look at last night's vid (watch?v=kzXO3iFsj4E) bully van man "Get in the cycle lane" after using horn in annoyance when he can't fly by. I keep a car door width away from parked vehicles, therefore outside the cycle lane. Bully van man tries hard to make things as difficult as possible thereafter. Granny would be too scared to ride here.
@ysttaw Wrong. Riding safely and anticipating card driving idiots does not help. These videos demonstrate the selfish and dangerous attitudes exhibited by many motorists. Incidents such as these happen to me daily. It's only my road sense, alertness and skill that has prevented me from become a statistic.
The way I see it he rev his engine after the cyclist stop in front of him, almost all cyclists blow small thing out of proportion and suffer serious road rage for no reason other than you feel vunearable Live and let live
taxis are bad - but this cyclist is an asshole. when theres a line of cars trying to pull out and one sees a moderate gap you should let it go- how much difference would it make to the cyclists journey time, and how much to the taxi and other cars behind it? (speaking as a cyclist) leave taxi alone
Momentum is very important to a cyclist. Repeatedly braking and accelerating isn't a burden to a motor vehicle driver, but to a cyclist it represents more than just their speed, it affects the amount of energy they use and how they feel after the ride (lots of stopping and starting could leave a rider feeling worn out)
I know you say you are a cyclist, but I suspect you're really just someone who uses a bike occasionally. You don't seem to have much understanding of bikes as a mode of transport
Chalkus, I trust you've seen all the video's by this poster, on that note I make you right 100%, this guy is 100% anti truck, bus, van, taxi and car, and has absolutely NO care towards other traffic, or his own safety, but repeats that he is incessantly in the right.
As a driver I would have let him out... you saw the hazard from a long way back and you didn't brake. again, you do like to get yourself into these situations, you don't seem to have the ability to perceive hazards... maybe you should stop cycling
Regardless of the vehicle in use the Taxi DID NOT have the right of way. If you impede the flow of traffic like the taxi did you are in the wrong, whether you like it or not. Let the highway code be your friend.
Did you hear the engine rev suddenly as the cyclist passed in front of the taxi? Was that accidental or intended to cause alarm? Can't help wondering if the intimidation was by design.
It sounds to me like he'd stalled the engine and was restarting it. The sound quality isn't very good though. You probably have a better idea of his intention because you were there.
It's scumbag drivers like that who kill in Cambridge. Not looking before pulling out, rather than at the same time as pulling out. Being on the phone or talking to a passenger. Registration and Taxi company ? Cambridge buses also make mad, the One Way for traffic and alternate for bikes and the buses cut you up royally.
elyob: I didn't have to stop but could have done: the taxi stopped so I was able to continue, just about! What I wouldn't do is ride through in such a way that I couldn't stop if I had to. Sounds like you'd do the same :)
You handled the problem well. You had seen the potential problem before it occurred, although am wondering if you had seen the driver looking the opposite way. I think you took the aggressive option rather than the defensive. This isn't a criticism, I believe that I would have done the same. However, I would just point out there was another option (depending on following traffic), which would be to have slowed earlier and maybe coming to a complete halt.
Yes, I was wearing bright clothing and reflective gear. Weather was dull and damp. My speed around 15mph. Was easy enough to stop even though road slippery but it does feel very intimidating to have to pass the front of a vehicle that is demonstrably in a hurry to move.
I agree with this video and feel that the taxi driver is 100% in the wrong, and was not aware of the cyclist as he probably did not look twice before pulling out. Either that or he was on the mobile like most people STILL seem to be in town!
Agreed! I'm not from Cambridge but most taxi drivers across the UK seem to use their vehicle as an intimidation device/forcing tool. I was in Castleford (West Yorkshire) driving my car and I was in queuing traffic which was slowly moving at around 10mph. A taxi car pulled out of a road on the right and was blocking the lane. He kept creeping and I think he was anticipating that I'd stop and let him go. That wasn't the case, he had to stop to avoid hitting me.
cyclists you are all paranoid wearing cameras to record incidents. motorists have never done that. Give blood kill a cyclist you are all a damn nuisance on the road
labyonnette 5 months ago
@labyonnette Cyclists are paranoid, yet there are hundreds of videos on Youtube of motorists driving dangerously?
jonathondeane 5 months ago
@labyonnette Actually some motorists do have cameras......just look on youtube........
electrictactical 1 month ago
cyclists you are all paranoid wearing cameras to record incidents. motorists have never done that. Give blood kill a cyclist you are all a damn nuisance on the road
labyonnette 5 months ago
dont these people have better things to do with thier life than record them selves cycling sad people. go out rioting and looting thats sounds like more fun
CODFOURZEROTWO 6 months ago
Rustyeffect, is that what you call sex with your mummy insured brum brum? Wanker
spm36 7 months ago
Bikes are harder to see, this is a known fact. People are usually just looking for cars; no damage was done, honest mistake. I mean hell, drivers do worse to other drivers and you don't see that shit posted all over YouTube.
wootness3000 8 months ago
@wootness3000 You do.
electrictactical 1 month ago
@electrictactical I post the bad ones where I was actually in some sort of danger, this is a minor mistake.
wootness3000 1 month ago
I think the cyclist rode very responsibly in this example... commendably so even.
If I saw this out on the streets... well, I probably wouldn't say anything, 'cause it would sound condecending, but I'd likely smile and nod approvingly ;)
Taxi was being a bully, no doubt. I encounter this sort of thing all the time... wouldn't bother posting a video about it, but that doesn't make the taxi driver any less of a dick
psteverific 11 months ago
I see the trolls are out in force MPJ!
Just for their tiny minds, the cyclist did nothing wrong or illegal here. There is no law about lights during the day, or hiviz or helmets for that matter.
Stop whinging like girls, grow up and give people respect on the roads and on here. If you want to know why a cyclists might ride in a particular way dont whine, get on a National Standards course and learn for yourselves.
downfader2 1 year ago
Clearly , the cyclist was not wearing a hi-viz vest , nor did the cyclist have reflectors on his tricicle .
Lav1lle 1 year ago
One word: Peter Berlin
GayWorldOrder 1 year ago
i was hoping he would have pulled out and hit you. all you cyclists do the SAME FUCKING THINGS like drive in front of cars that are pulling out, or come into the car lane and think that you have the right of way when in reality all passing drivers are thinking about how utterly gay you look riding your damn bike and wearing those stupid leotards. i hate all of you cyclists. i really do. next cyclist i see, I'm going to scare the SHIT out of them
rustyeffect 1 year ago
thats how a car hit me, i live in california and i road with traffic m stayed at the right side than bang
localSickened 1 year ago
ok now ill allow you to kick his headlight in.
chase2187 1 year ago
FAIL
wigster777 1 year ago
what equipment do u use for filming? cheers
SimonCowellBGT 1 year ago
OMFG he is riding on the left side of the road, what a fucking retard.
NaceLunk 1 year ago
@NaceLunk Thats because he's riding in the UK ;-P
downfader2 1 year ago
i thin the taxi driver did not notice the bike was coming and he tried to go when there was enough space for him to go from the coming traffic but he noticed the bike was coming at the last minute :) thats what i get form this :)
sircesare 1 year ago
@sircesare .....yeah thats what i saw too.
VoiceInBlackness 1 year ago
I think the law is that cyclists have to ride on the road unless cycle lane is provided on the pavement. They swerve sometimes yeah, so with that in mind, you allow them more room. Traffic holds me up in my car, and bikes do aswell sometimes. I sit back, and wait.
mikeh2006 2 years ago
shame the cyclist didnt smash into him and die
eddiestobart007 2 years ago
I hope your mother gets smashed by a car
Robsty88 2 years ago
why do you want him to die?
mikeh2006 2 years ago
@mikeh2006 they hold up traffic, and swerve when u overtake....
just use the pavement
eddiestobart007 2 years ago
bunch of pillocks
the roads before Tarmac arrived were dirt tracks, do cyclists pay for road upkeep? course not
gotta go, just seen a cyclist in lyrex, he needs a nudge for his own sake
toodle pip peddlers
baldandold 2 years ago
ok, lets take ALL mechanically driven vehicles off the road.
1. How will shops get stock
2. How will roads be maintained
3. How will you get spares for your cycle
4. How will rural mums get kids to school
5. How will workers get to work
6. How will goverments make up the lost income
7. How will fuel get to power stations
8. and on, and on, and on...
What you suggest is a Amish lyfestyle, would it work worldwide 24/7 365 days a year?
baldandold 2 years ago
If you are talking to me, I suggest the following.
1) Many items can be delivered by train.
2) How will workers get to work, Um look at places like Copenhagen, BY BIKE.
3) you need some motorised transport, but not the levels that are there at present.
4)You can get spares for your cycle, with another bike.
5) I submit that a much larger percentage of people riding a bike will SAVE THE GOVERNMENT A FORTUNE. LOWER HEALTH COSTS, LESS OBESITY, LESS POLLUTION.
.
KrunchyJD 2 years ago
Places like Amsterdam, and Copenhagen should remind everyone that the Bicycle is a valid mode of transport, and is even used to deliver/ carry goods.
It is possible to greatly reduce the reliance on the motor vehicle, in fact you could have 75% travel by bike with almost no detrimental effect and a massive positive effect if you designed cities and towns the right way.
Sure emergency service may need motorised transport and perhaps some small trucks and transport for elderly.
KrunchyJD 2 years ago
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baldandold 2 years ago
A bike is a mechanically driven vehicle!
You mean motor driven.
And if you get all them off, road maintenance will be 0.00001%
6. By not having to pay for huge road maintenance/building
7. Also fuel comes FROM power stations, and usually in lines and pipes. Fail. Oh sorry I made a mistake, my electric comes on a lorry.
I'm not arguing for "getting them all off the road", just your silly comments.
drsquirrel0 2 years ago
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baldandold 2 years ago
KrunchyJD > ".. cyclist is a vehicle, and has the same rights .."
If bicyclists are going to be demanding, then it's probably not unreasonable to expect the same requirements as other vehicles - testing, license, insurance, registration, taxes, and so on. My vehicle was struck twice by bicyclists riding on the bike path in front of my last apartment. Neither had testing, license, or insurance, nor the means to pay the damages. My insurance rates went up instead.
stewartx5 2 years ago
Cyclists do have the same rights, and yes the same responsibilities as well. In terms of the taxes argument, when a person rides instead of drives they actually save money, through less pollution, congestion, lower health costs, etc Were the cyclists who struck you legally at fault, if they were then that is more reason to have plain clothed cops with camera's. Remember cyclists have the same rights AND responsibilities. Im not suggesting they should act otherwise.
KrunchyJD 2 years ago 2
KrunchyJD > ".. the same responsibilities as well .."
That's all sounds fine when said, but, without insurance, many cyclists do not have the financial means to pay for the damage they could (or, in my case, did) cause.
> ".. Were the cyclists who struck you legally at fault .."
The vehicles were parked legally in front of the apartment. Many cyclists rode by each day and I suspect nearly every vehicle in the neighborhood had been stuck (in some manner) at least once.
stewartx5 2 years ago
I find this weird.
Cars don't have a right to be on the road, they are licences to do so.
Whereas most other transport does have the right.
Maybe you should argue your right to the road, and not to have to take a licence.
:p
drsquirrel0 2 years ago
"Cars don't have a right to be on the road, they are licences to do so.
Whereas most other transport does have the right."
er, hello? where do you live? mars?
baldandold 2 years ago
You cannot just get into a car( or other motor vehicle) and drive on the road, thus you have no default right to drive on the road.
Pedestrians, Horse riders, cyclists and various other need no licence, thus by default, have the right to walk/ride/cycle on the road.
I emplore you, to drive a car with no VED, or no licence on the road... and claim in court... "I have a right to drive on the roads".
You will get the default fine & points, and add more to the fine for wasting court time.
drsquirrel0 2 years ago 4
Stewart, are you saying you parked on a bikepath? Please clarify?
Licensing and testing doesnt stop the fact that car insurers have to pay out £millions each year, and that the MIB has to cover the damage 1.5m uninsured drivers cause. (There are estimated to be 3m regular cyclists in the UK - even if they all caused havoc they could never match the costs incurred by the uninsured driver)
downfader2 2 years ago
downfader2 > ".. are you saying you parked on a bikepath? .."
No, the sidwalk in front was divided between pedestrians and a bicycle path, with cars parked on the side of the roadway next to that bicycle path. That road, coming from nearby busy street, intersected with another street leading to several stores a few blocks away. The bicycle path was popular with cyclists riding to and from those stores.
stewartx5 2 years ago
I think thats fair enough then. If you know someone definately did damage your car they should pay for the damage imo.
downfader2 2 years ago
The best solution all round is to create better infrastructure for cycling, but if you cant do that, have plain clothed cops on bikes with camera's and book everyone who breaks road rules motorists and cyclists
KrunchyJD 2 years ago
I think the taxi driver thought you were turning left and your movement out to the right was so you could take a better line through the corner.
wigglysaddle 2 years ago
i wanna be a cyclist, and enjoy the free use of the roads, no test, no licence, no insurance, no MOT, and still demand 75% of the lane as my right...
baldandold 2 years ago
Go on then.
downfader2 2 years ago 2
Mate that is absolute crap, the bloke in this video cant drive and shouldnt have a liscence, there is no excuse for not giving way. People have to understand that a cyclist is a vehicle, and has the same rights, if he was a car and another car kept comming out when they were supposed to give way you would say they are in the wrong its no different if its a cyclist.
KrunchyJD 2 years ago
By cycling instead of driving you actually save the community and the government around 70 cents us per killometre. You have a net positive impact. What you are saying is almost the same as someone saying that you should pay someone else for the privelige of you going to work, it makes no sense. Cars cost the government billions every year, and your registration does not cover the full cost. As a motorist you are being subsidised not the other way around. So go on be a cyclist and help everyone.
KrunchyJD 2 years ago
Goverments have huge incomes from the 80% tax we pay on each litre of fuel, £400 a year road tax, and VAT on everything we buy to keep a vehicle running, plus income tax from workers building cars and running every aspect of road use, how much do cyclists contribute? bugger all
baldandold 2 years ago
OK, im not from the UK, but if what you say is true then, you still are not taking into account the savings to government from people cycling instead of driving, this includes, the cost to the health system of a sedentary lifestyle, the cost of the carbon emmisions, the cost of congestion created by cars, the health cost of the pollution by cars..
Aside from this, if you think cyclists have a free ride take it up yourself. Most cyclists also own a car.
KrunchyJD 2 years ago
In terms of the workers building cars thing, they could build bicycles instead.
KrunchyJD 2 years ago
KrunchyJD > ".. building cars .. build bicycles instead .."
Get real. What are the elderly, the very young, the disabled, those carrying heavy loads, those traveling greater distances, those in horrible weather, or similar supposed to ride? Clearly, bicycles will never be an adequate substitute for the automobile. Too many have gained a far greater level of freedom from the automobile.
stewartx5 2 years ago
Im not saying there is no place for the car, it is just one transport option though. It is also one that should be made more environmentally friendly eg ellectric cars.
What I was talking about is the suggestion that workers build cars visa vie they will be out of a job. Building bycicles creates work for the people who dont build cars.
There is many times though when cars are not needed, eg short trips to work, shops to buy a few things etc
KrunchyJD 2 years ago
I am not saying there is no place for cars, I own a car I just only use it when I cant realistically ride a bike.
I recognise that sometimes you have to go far, or carry heavy or large things, im not suggesting otherwise. Many car trips though could be undertaken by bike, and that should be encouraged.
I was responding to the idea that less cars would kill manufacturing jobs, by saying that some of the loss of manufacturing work could go into manufacturing bicycles.
KrunchyJD 2 years ago
@baldandold - the money generated via fuel and VED gets sucked up partially by the damage that the motorvehicle creates. Your issue is with government, not with cyclists going about their legal activities. You also dont seem to realise that an IAM study this year found that the vast majority of cyclists leave a taxed and insured car on the drive.
downfader2 2 years ago
Downfader2, motorists contribute far more than ever gets spent on roads, roads ONLY exist for mechanically propelled vehicles, cycles pay nothing to use the roads I pay to use, be gratefull for cars, vans, trucks, buses, or ride on fields and keep out my way FFS
baldandold 2 years ago
Sorry, but that is rubbish.
1) Roads existed long before cars.
2) In practically all countries excluding a few, cyclists actually subsidise motorists because roads are funded out of general revenue, with the insurance charge only partly covering the cost of road maintanance. A bike does little damage to the road, but the cyclist still pays income tax.
The cost of fuel does not cover the cost of ripping it up, and the damage it does.
KrunchyJD 2 years ago
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baldandold 2 years ago
baldandold you're speaking absolute nonsense and you know it. Go to your local library and look through the archives and see just how many roads predate the motorvehicle. Its not about paying to use the roads its about why you contribute - you make yourself out to be a bit of a road hog tbh.
downfader2 2 years ago
Income tax from workers? From where, Germany? Netherlands? China? Sure...
Cycles are built, and taxed. And VAT on stuff to keep it running and on the road.
Road tax does not exist. VED does and Band A <100gsm COULD be applied to cyclists, £0.
That tax on your fuel could not afford to pay for the roads, other people are paying for it too even if they don't use it.
How much do they contribute? More than they require... but then, most cyclists have a car too.
drsquirrel0 2 years ago 2
I buy £120 worth of diesel a week at 80% going to HMG, I also pay £300 PA "RFL" (Road Fund Licence), i make that over £5200 for HMG, plus VAT on tyres/parts/servicing, cyclists want to use MY road for free (or "pay" nil road tax?) then get in my way?
just tell me again HOW a chinese-built pushbike gets to the new owner here?
baldandold 2 years ago
You pay duty/vat for the fuel, not to drive. I can buy petrol/diesel and never ever use it on the road... (don't quote red diesel that's for non taxable use).
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ROAD TAX.
You pay for your tyres, for your car and their production, not for the road.
You pay for your servicing for your car and the labour, not for the road.
It's not your road... everyone that pay tax owns it, and magically we all pay tax.
drsquirrel0 2 years ago 3
Band A cars don't pay VED, shoudl they be kicked off the road? And they pay less duty because they have a better mpg. Should they have less ownership?
By your rates, anyone that has a car that does 10000gsm co2 and 0.1mpg should have more ownership to the road?
Bikes are transported here, of course, but I wasn't arguing about freight transport, we are talking about tax and road maintenance costs being higher than fuel duty+ved.
drsquirrel0 2 years ago
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drsquirrel0 2 years ago
Yes we all make mistakes regardless of experience and the vehicle we drive. I have a licence to drive almost any vehicle and been driving for years. I do about 45000 miles a years. Even with my experience, I still make the odd mistake and when others make mistakes, I am tolerant towards that. If someone pulls out in front, obviously it's not intentional, but if someone is constantly on my arse, then that really pisses me off. It's as if they are in my space and I don't like that.
HondaH100A 2 years ago
I suppose its about doing everything you can to limit the chance of you making a mistake. Taking time at junctions, getting enough sleep, not running lights. Just common sense aint it, LOL!
downfader2 2 years ago
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wow man this is bad. it happens to me a lot. mainly from indian or somali women drivers. THE ARE THE MOST CARELESS.
AlbanianBorn 2 years ago
HOOOOOORRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH fut
on the bonnet so they can't use the wiper ;)
deedidee 2 years ago
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too hot, i like taxi driver. It's not his fault, but just to look at you stupid cyclist, i like taxi driver now.
KoralieMegan 3 years ago
How is it not his fault, he did not give way, did you actually watch the video
KrunchyJD 2 years ago
You know what, we are all human and all make mistakes whatever vehicle we ride or drive.What we need to do is give each other a little bit more room and a little bit more respect on the roads.
Q3ToPBuZz 3 years ago
me i would have stopped in front of the taxi and gone crazy at him
dominiclutwyche 3 years ago
ok, this one is a bonafied asshole driver rather than a stupid asshole biker
druitarplayer 3 years ago 6
Wasted enough time on this video. I've been riding for decades. If I posted a video to whine about everything seen on the road I didn't like, this site's server would be filled up. Stuff like this happens and, in many cases, it's just as much the fault of cyclists as vehicle drivers. Instead of looking solely at drivers, it's time to look at what we're doing as well. This cyclist was riding sloppily, wobbling all over the road. If he had not been doing so, this situation may not have happened.
stewartx5 3 years ago 3
Ok so if you drive sloppily its my right to nearly take you out with a bigger car is it. The cyclist had right of way and there is NO EXCUSE for not giving way, the cyclist was in his lane, NO EXCUSE
KrunchyJD 2 years ago 2
so you never make mistakes? who are you, god? get real, the taxi driver DID stop, and maybe you were not that visible?
baldandold 2 years ago
taxi drivers are typicaly very agressive pushy and rude... pushing out like that is to stop any following vehicle so he can pull out rather than waiting to be given way to pull out.
leedsm18 2 years ago
The bicyclist is mostly responsible for this incident. He moves sharply to the right side of the lane (at 0:13) like he intended to turn right. The taxi driver, believing he is turning right, starts to pull out before realizing cyclist is just wobbling all over the road instead of actually turning. He then stops to allow cyclists to pass unharmed. If cyclists used hand signals more often (very few do), drivers wouldn't have to try reading minds to figure out what cyclists actually intend to do.
stewartx5 3 years ago
There is nowhere to turn right into :S
Taxi driver is just out the same mould as the other speeding, blind bastards
Sc200pER 3 years ago
That's pure bullcrap, Sc200pER. And darn offensive. First, there are several places for him to turn right to, the most obvious being the sidewalk on other side of road. Second, I'm just as much a driver as I'm a rider, and getting tired of the rude comments directed at car drivers by riders.
As said before, I've seen just as much, if not more, bad driving from bicyclists as I've seen from car drivers. And I'm certainly seeing more outright rudeness from bicyclists (such as yourself).
stewartx5 3 years ago
I drive more than I cycle and take pride in my driving (I have a national B racing licence so I enjoy myself on the circuits). Unfortunately from my experience most so called 'proffesional' drivers are innattentive or impatient.
Anyway, the taxi driver was a tool. Even if the ccylist was turning right you don't creep into the lane until safe to complete the manouvre.
Sc200pER 3 years ago
Fine, Sc200pER. And are you going to sit there and tell us you've never made a mistake while either driving or riding? Why then was your mistake simply that and this incident in the "same mould as the other speeding, blind bastards?" Enough said. Take care.
stewartx5 3 years ago
stewartx5 - mate - I appreciate that there are a lot of jerks on bicycles, but in this case it's clearly the cabbie at fault. Enough said. Take care.
ad7742 3 years ago
Oh yeah. I often turn right, into the, er, pavement on the other side of the road. I mean that's really obvious...
mookie2637 3 years ago
mookie2637 > "Oh yeah. I often turn right, into the, er, pavement..."
Go anywhere bicyclists arrive at a destination in significant numbers and you'll quickly see plenty of cyclists doing exactly that (crossing street to opposite sidewalk).
In any town or city, cyclists cross streets, change lanes, cut intersection corners, and more, all with little or no warning to others. This undisciplined riding behavior confuses vehicle drivers, causing exactly these types of incidents.
stewartx5 3 years ago
henley road is to the right you fucking numskull
Battymatty23 3 years ago
That's a fair point about hand signals, and yes, cyclists should follow the rules of the road, but if someone does not signal you should assume they are going forward if you are in a car.
KrunchyJD 2 years ago
I have a simple rule with taxicabs. If they get close enough to me for me to kick them, I do.
mousepotato64 3 years ago
YES!......give it a good kick
peterthepervert 3 years ago
That attitude is rubbish. Well done. For being a jerk.
ad7742 3 years ago
ok twat7742, what do you suggest? let the idiot in the cab out?, fling a flower at it?? lol
peterthepervert 3 years ago
and u kick my cab , il reverse over you and waste you
Battymatty23 3 years ago
would you. well if you cut me up like this cab did i will run you over with your own cab till you slowly pass away
AlbanianBorn 2 years ago
Too late, I'm already gone. =)
mousepotato64 2 years ago
I HATE ALL TAXI DRIVERS!!! When im on my bike or in my car the pig headed taxi drivers think they own the road!!! Arseholes to the lot of them!!!
wayne205stevens 3 years ago
Where you wearing an INVISABLE vest?
Not only were you there a car from the taxi's left was passing so WHY pull out?
ontheroaduk2008 4 years ago
I'd have something high viz on. Always do. Doesn't always have desired effect, as shown here!
mailpauljonescouk 4 years ago
@mailpauljonescouk ahh man i would have stopped and gone mental
toddizdabest 11 months ago
Clearly the minicab driver is in the wrong here but I can't help wondering if the cyclist is being unnecessarily pigheaded. If you cycle as if the whole world revolves around you, it's no wonder that you will end up involved in road incident after incident (as these videos appear to show). I've cycled in Cambridge and do so regularly in central London and find that with the right amount of assertiveness combined with proper anticipation, it is possible to avoid conflict with motorists.
ysttaw 4 years ago 2
Perhaps you're unwilling to face up to the increasingly impatient disrespectful bullying attitude shown by some motorists. Many vids show careless pushy motoring associated with misjudged speed. Could be you're cycling at a pace within petrolhead brain expected range on quieter roads. Do you remember 1970s when we didn't have to commute to work alongside a traffic jam & cycle lanes didn't exist? I do.
mailpauljonescouk 4 years ago
I think part of your mistake is that you use the cycle lanes. In my experience (on most of the busiest roads in Central London and local A roads) is that motorists will respect you more if you don't ride like some granny cycling to the local shop.
ysttaw 4 years ago
I use cycle lanes when it makes sense, but take a look at last night's vid (watch?v=kzXO3iFsj4E) bully van man "Get in the cycle lane" after using horn in annoyance when he can't fly by. I keep a car door width away from parked vehicles, therefore outside the cycle lane. Bully van man tries hard to make things as difficult as possible thereafter. Granny would be too scared to ride here.
mailpauljonescouk 4 years ago
@ysttaw wrong, nothing makes a driver more angry than a cyclist who has a dedicated bike lane but dosnt use it, rather he uses the car lane...
PlebScrubber 1 year ago
@ysttaw Wrong. Riding safely and anticipating card driving idiots does not help. These videos demonstrate the selfish and dangerous attitudes exhibited by many motorists. Incidents such as these happen to me daily. It's only my road sense, alertness and skill that has prevented me from become a statistic.
catbells69 1 year ago
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stupid cyclist , who cares , like any of you actually abay the highway code
Battymatty23 4 years ago
it's called an action camera you moron! he won't be holding it.
thomase1 4 years ago
Seeing how the streets were wet in all, if he couldn't stop in time, the driver would of been at fault and been cited
Dershnof 4 years ago
The way I see it he rev his engine after the cyclist stop in front of him, almost all cyclists blow small thing out of proportion and suffer serious road rage for no reason other than you feel vunearable Live and let live
demonicdev 4 years ago
taxis are bad - but this cyclist is an asshole. when theres a line of cars trying to pull out and one sees a moderate gap you should let it go- how much difference would it make to the cyclists journey time, and how much to the taxi and other cars behind it? (speaking as a cyclist) leave taxi alone
Antwon777 4 years ago
Momentum is very important to a cyclist. Repeatedly braking and accelerating isn't a burden to a motor vehicle driver, but to a cyclist it represents more than just their speed, it affects the amount of energy they use and how they feel after the ride (lots of stopping and starting could leave a rider feeling worn out)
I know you say you are a cyclist, but I suspect you're really just someone who uses a bike occasionally. You don't seem to have much understanding of bikes as a mode of transport
wigglysaddle 2 years ago
Chalkus, I trust you've seen all the video's by this poster, on that note I make you right 100%, this guy is 100% anti truck, bus, van, taxi and car, and has absolutely NO care towards other traffic, or his own safety, but repeats that he is incessantly in the right.
leewink 4 years ago
As a driver I would have let him out... you saw the hazard from a long way back and you didn't brake. again, you do like to get yourself into these situations, you don't seem to have the ability to perceive hazards... maybe you should stop cycling
chalkus 4 years ago
Regardless of the vehicle in use the Taxi DID NOT have the right of way. If you impede the flow of traffic like the taxi did you are in the wrong, whether you like it or not. Let the highway code be your friend.
DivideBYZero69 4 years ago
Did you hear the engine rev suddenly as the cyclist passed in front of the taxi? Was that accidental or intended to cause alarm? Can't help wondering if the intimidation was by design.
mailpauljonescouk 5 years ago
It sounds to me like he'd stalled the engine and was restarting it. The sound quality isn't very good though. You probably have a better idea of his intention because you were there.
wigglysaddle 2 years ago
It's scumbag drivers like that who kill in Cambridge. Not looking before pulling out, rather than at the same time as pulling out. Being on the phone or talking to a passenger. Registration and Taxi company ? Cambridge buses also make mad, the One Way for traffic and alternate for bikes and the buses cut you up royally.
cpmisalive 5 years ago
elyob: I didn't have to stop but could have done: the taxi stopped so I was able to continue, just about! What I wouldn't do is ride through in such a way that I couldn't stop if I had to. Sounds like you'd do the same :)
mailpauljonescouk 5 years ago
You handled the problem well. You had seen the potential problem before it occurred, although am wondering if you had seen the driver looking the opposite way. I think you took the aggressive option rather than the defensive. This isn't a criticism, I believe that I would have done the same. However, I would just point out there was another option (depending on following traffic), which would be to have slowed earlier and maybe coming to a complete halt.
elyob 5 years ago
Yes, I was wearing bright clothing and reflective gear. Weather was dull and damp. My speed around 15mph. Was easy enough to stop even though road slippery but it does feel very intimidating to have to pass the front of a vehicle that is demonstrably in a hurry to move.
mailpauljonescouk 5 years ago
Yes, also agreed 100% taxi drivers fault, perhaps you could wear some high visability clothing for your own safety?
dwallingor 5 years ago
I agree with this video and feel that the taxi driver is 100% in the wrong, and was not aware of the cyclist as he probably did not look twice before pulling out. Either that or he was on the mobile like most people STILL seem to be in town!
mattf84 5 years ago
Agreed! I'm not from Cambridge but most taxi drivers across the UK seem to use their vehicle as an intimidation device/forcing tool. I was in Castleford (West Yorkshire) driving my car and I was in queuing traffic which was slowly moving at around 10mph. A taxi car pulled out of a road on the right and was blocking the lane. He kept creeping and I think he was anticipating that I'd stop and let him go. That wasn't the case, he had to stop to avoid hitting me.
Lynxboy252 4 years ago