Although I think your comparison is done on even ground, I don't think this is a fair representation of either amp. After all, can you get an accurate picture of ANY amp when the volume is set at less than 1 or 2 o'clock (at minimum)? The point of these small wattage amps is to get the CRANKED tone at manageable levels. Although you did use a decent amount of gain, you neglected to let the amps show their real character since you did not push the power tubes.
The Vox sounded kind of better at lower gain coz it's brighter...but when you said "let's crank it up" near the end, the Marshall really came to life...it's more subtle than the vox but that is what music is all about imo!
Jury's still out on whether that Vox is voiced too bright, but one thing is sure - that Marshall sounds like hell. Maybe more helpful is that it sounds like a Marshall product to take advantage of some particular market and not so much like a 'Marshall'.
Your limitations as a player as compared to pros hired by manufacturers specifically to demo their products paired with your attention to detail is incredibly helpful in determining what any given player might get out of one of these things.
@jdh0858 just a guess, but I think the cabinet of the Night Train is pointed directly at the camera, therefore you hear more top-end. The Haze cabinet is "off-axis" from the camera point of view so the top end "escapes" the microphone
vox sounds pretty bright and crunchy, marshall sounds more opaque and seems to take tone better. marshall on overdrive still sounds more opaque, but i like the overdrive a lot, although, the vox at high gain settings starts sounding kinda shitty, altho it sounds awesome at 12 o clock gain!
when he cranks up the treble on the marshall, it sounds awesome on it! its got those highs, plus the nice lows. The vox stays just bright but there's not much tone on it.
I own a night train and just saying on the thick switch the gain really adds up And I can see from watching this you didn't quite krank the gain, just saying there is a little more push on the gain on the night train if people are thinking of buying :)
@ChristianMusicianPGB i agree with this. I am currently using EMG 81/85 with the Night Train and I just have to back the volume off on the guitar completely, then push it up on the amp. This amp is very sensitive to on-guitar settings, you touch anything and it's totally different tone.
tried both of them, love em both, but i must say the Night train 15 does sound that bit crisper and has a brilliant overdrive tone but the absence of a foot switch is a real bummer if your planning on playing live with it. overall i'd go with the marshall
The Vox has no bass whatsoever. It's brittle and tinny sounding. It sounds like a cheap toy. The Marshall has plenty of round warm bass and sounds BIG.
@beatlemetalicamuse Feedback is when the vibration comes out of the amp, and back into the pickups, creating a continuous loop. So it's both the guitar and the amp
@Glockenator i already know that but there are some guitar and amps that although u lower the volume on the gitar 2 absolutely 0, feedback is still audible. some other times, u will lower the amps volume, and feedback is still there. i was asking wether the feedback caused by the amp or the gitar, but that i alredy answered, because i bought the vox and the feedback i think is on the guitar ttk is using coz of the high output, i am using an epi sg and it has almost no feedback when strings muted
hello can u pls tell me the factory preset of the marshall haze15 for biasing...cuz some some furom they said 25mv and 19mv...but i want the exact preset cuz i want to preserve the marshal haze tone pls.........
@beaubilly0 I honestly like that he explains what is going on in the video before he plays, so that way if we get that amps, we wouldn't be like "Oh, my gosh, why does this sound different?"
I went to GC and tried out the Marshall Haze combo amp. I'm not sure what abuse that amp had been through but the build of the amp wasnt that great. It seemed to rattle a bit and made a bit of noise.
It seems to me that major companies like Fender, Marshall, Gibson etc...keep putting out "gimmik" amps in order to get the kids to buy their stuff but at what cost?
Sounds to me that the Vox has more mids ands obviously more gain. The Marshall to me sounds kinda flat, it has alota bottom on it put doesnt have crunchy Marshall mids...
The Marshall sounds a bit too muddy for my tastes, but the VOX probably wouldn't work for me in some cases, since it's almost TOO bright. I'm using a Valveking 112 at the moment, which really gives me the tone I want. Nice review man! If you ever get a Valveking, I'd like to hear your opinion on it. :)
I prefer Marshall Haze. It sounds more professional while Night Train is too bright and sounds like a Digitech pedal..But the important question is which on can we use with pedals?
the marshall is more versatile it can sound blusey or if you play with the eq it can rock really hard. buy this video i would rather buy the marshall but i wonder how it compares to the mesa boogie transatlantic
@Torrello13 it depends on how you have it set the ta15 can be 5, 15, or 25 watts the ta30 witch just came out this year would be a different wattage class. at 15, 30, and 40 watts. but even then set at 15 would be the same
sorry for all the comments but there is seriously so much wrong with this review. literally would not suggest this review to anyone interested in these two amps, it literally gives them no justice. I mean the vox sounds like absolute shit in this one, but in the 10 amps in 10 minutes it sounds amazing.
Leaving all the knobs at 12 o'clock really does absolutely nothing for us
They are both nice amps, I think the marshall really won me over at 8:55 . Honestly I think the vox sounds too much like the metal channel on a beginner's amp. Marshall forever!!
Marshall really handles business when it comes to 4x12 100w, butt low wattage is in the hands of vox all day. The marshall is not bad sounding but its in now way there best attribute. Vox has made there best sounding amp to date in my opinion.
Love that Marshall! I've heard it live and imo it sounds a hell lot like the vintage Plexis. Hendrix tone anyone? With a good cab it's the perfect amp for small to mid-sized gigs.
I'm a sucker for these new smaller tube amps and own them all. Marshall Haze 15, Mesa TA15, Blackstar HT-5, Blackheart Little Giant, Orange Tiny Terror and the VOX Night Train. The VOX is my least favorite although I am a fan of vintage VOX tone. I can't get near the distortion he's getting with the VOX in this video without the use of a pedal. I suspected a bad tube but changed them all and still has a less than desirable tone for what it is. I just use it for acoustic.
i think this review doesnt help too much. im not trying be a dick. but i think the best way to test an amp is to play it, play with the settings and shit. and pick out what sounds best.
@overdriven77 A 15-Watt valve amplifier is usually loud enough to shake things of your table, and I do not recommend putting your ears in front of it when cranked.
The main thing you are hearing is the difference between 6V6 and EL84 power tubes. Though, why anyone would feed small, vintage style tube amps with active pickups is a mystery.
Love the demo, I'm looking around for a smallish amp to use for home and jamming with friends. I really love the night train, but the one feature most of the smaller amps lack is an effects loop for me to play with. It seems like the only lower end amps that offer the feature are the HAZE 40, MA50 and up.
Apparently guys who like effects should just give up on tone or be prepared to spend. ;)
Bassier sound on the Marshall, brighter on the Vox. Kinda like Les Paul and Strat. Bottom line: we want them all ! :) Mesa, Matchless, Egnater, Vox..we want them ALL!!! :)
@GallGael2 not necissarily, but either way, you pay that money for the quality of the amp. so far mesa is the only company that I hear that can mix older vintage classic tones and new aged hardass rock and roll into one amp. i reccomend it. highly.
@6stringsandaneck Oh of course they are great amps. The tonal possibilities are great and as you progress in quality of course you progress in price. And maybe 5 times more expensive was a bit of an exaggeration, but at least 2 times, I dont think there is a Mesa, in Australia anyway, under 3000 AUD whereas these retail for around 1000 AUD. Im just saying that for the price, these are pretty great little amps. A Mesa would be amazing to have! Haha.
IMHO....you missed the best part of the Night Train, lower the gain below 12 o'clock and turn volume up to get that beautiful clean chime on the bright channel....blows The Haze away. The Haze imo, is Marshall trying to get into the sub $1k range...not where they should be imo....too much out there that is better. With that said, i also like the Vox in gain situations as well. Maybe i'm just a Vox guy...but love the Marshall JCM series....non comparison.
@Twistchawa they both sound great. that "blanket" is a warm heartpounding feeling the amp has to offer. if you dont like it, don't buy it. simple as that.
@6stringsandaneck True. I just don't feel that things like reverb and channel switching has much play in the superiority of an amp to the other. Sorry I had to get so subjective there. . . Me and the Haze have a troubled past. Haha
@Twistchawa no worries i dont mean that the tone is necissarily better anyway. ive actually heard over the past month that the marshall tone is just an overrated british tone -_- it bugs me. then i tried a mesa boogie and my mind was fuckin blown. i think i know what ill be picking up in a couple months.
I'm All VOX here, but the marshall isn't bad. i just like the night train because of the classic clean jingle jangle bright sound that comes out , and if you need a little more beef, just turn up the gain or turn to the thick mode.
@louisivano i actually thought the marshall was better...seems more tonality. doesnt matter if u use these...u just need a pedal. tahts the whole point of getting tube... coz u use pedals
frosticle--you will get some hum through the NT because of the active pickups for sure..i run emgs with my esp ec1000 through my NT and i get some hum but it is corrected easily with a noisegate of some kind..i also have a tele i play and it produces no hum at all in either the triode or pentode mode..my advice is buy a ISP decimator, its the best noise suppressor out there and one of the best all around pedals to own besides a chromatic tuner
Does anyone who owns the night train notice a lot of hum in the triode mode? I'm running some seymour duncan blackouts on my godin lg and the night train sounds almost over loaded with gain also, shame I didn't try the marshall, it might have worked better with the pick ups. That or theres something wrong with my night train......
I've tried both of these out, and this demo is good for showing what the amps can do. In my opinion, the Marshall has a beautiful clean tone - very smooth and sparkly. The Vox has a good clean, but the clean is the amp's weak point. The Marshall's overdrive is too muddy for me (it would probably not jump out in the mix - bad for lead players). The Vox is meant to be played dirty - perfect for garage-rock sounds or Brit rock like Arctic Monkeys, etc.
To me it's all about how it mixes in a band situation. I've heard amps that sound great in a shootout but sound like crap in a band mix. Personally I think the Vox sounds OK here but would sound raspy in a mix. The Marshall sounds a little bassy here but I'm guessing in a mix would sound better. Playing gigs I'm just not happy with a one trick pony type amp. I like two channels. Speakers also have a lot to do with the tone.
I had to come back and give this a chance again. Same conclusion. What you can round and full to me is dull and lifeless. The Vox has a part of its sound the Marshall lacks, Life. The Vox is open and full, even with the EMG's. The Marshall sounds like they put the mike in the back of the cabnet, tone dead. I so thank you for the vids, I am for sure getting the Night Train. TY TTK
To be Honest, I think the Vox sounds better on both channels. The Marshall gets the Marshall sound, but the Vox is IMHO more useable. I am gonna get the Vox based on your video so thank you very much!! :)
Why get into so much hype......if the amp and pickups sound good just play. If most of you spent the same amount of energy learning how to play guitar instead of analyzing pick-ups, etc then you would probably be 50% better players than you are. Unreal!
Why get into so much hype......if the amp and pickups sound good just play. If most of you spent the same amount of energy learning how to play guitar instead of analyzing pick-ups, etc then you would probably be 50% better players than you are. Unreal!
@transformationfleurs not always entirly true i have one guitar loaded with emgs"i admit i do not really like them" but they are MUCH! cleaner through my tubes than many of my passives! for example lawrences x500xl have a MUCH higher gain than the emgs as do a few dimarzios(3) and a pair duncans that drive the amp just as hard as the emgs do imo prs pickups are some of the best things on this earth for clean:P
@slanepuppy all the pu's you compare the emg's with are not famous for using them clean. prs pu's best for clean sounds???? Man, you really should try a good vintage Jazzmaster for example.
@transformationfleurs not known for clean sound, but still not overly bad with clean(sd, dim). i cant really use vintage pickups for what i normally play because as soon as you bump up the gain(landmine) they have a tenancy to turn to mud especially p-90s closest thing i use to vintage are in most of my guitars bare knuckles black dog(bridge) stormy Monday(neck) and then the prs dragons i cant fault either great tone clean(volume back) and when under full gain they sing!
@slanepuppy that sounds more like a problem of the landmine/amp combination than the choice of pu's. Since 40 years I play only vintage guitars from the 60's and 70's with original pu's and never had problems like these. Usually I use only the 2 channels of my MusicMan, but there was a time I also used the Ibanez Tubescreamer. With both settings I played real screaming gain solos without any mud. Used everything from Jazzmaster to Les Paul.
Although I think your comparison is done on even ground, I don't think this is a fair representation of either amp. After all, can you get an accurate picture of ANY amp when the volume is set at less than 1 or 2 o'clock (at minimum)? The point of these small wattage amps is to get the CRANKED tone at manageable levels. Although you did use a decent amount of gain, you neglected to let the amps show their real character since you did not push the power tubes.
johnlightsout 1 week ago
Marshall ftw
JOEDEEVEE 2 weeks ago
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haze sounds bad for some reason...sounds like the bass is at maximum all the time...
po1212Po 3 weeks ago
talk king
lilnetty2 3 weeks ago
The "I'll give you one of those bad boys right there." and the hand sign is the stupidest thing I've seen..
xXBenjixBoyXx 1 month ago
The Vox is more defined and not muddy.
brandon5pennies 1 month ago
Gosh. Shut up and play.
to0ty 1 month ago
Vox night train!
MrBluesmind 1 month ago
The Vox sounded kind of better at lower gain coz it's brighter...but when you said "let's crank it up" near the end, the Marshall really came to life...it's more subtle than the vox but that is what music is all about imo!
johnnyckrock 1 month ago
Mesa the best )
Croccoddile 1 month ago
@Croccoddile vox...
aleman369 1 month ago
Yes, I realize it's a backhanded compliment, but thank you.
blargendarg 1 month ago
Jury's still out on whether that Vox is voiced too bright, but one thing is sure - that Marshall sounds like hell. Maybe more helpful is that it sounds like a Marshall product to take advantage of some particular market and not so much like a 'Marshall'.
Your limitations as a player as compared to pros hired by manufacturers specifically to demo their products paired with your attention to detail is incredibly helpful in determining what any given player might get out of one of these things.
blargendarg 1 month ago
Vox
crnyz250 2 months ago
I think I like the Marshall....
daniyalahmed97 2 months ago
marshall ftw
jeganaut 2 months ago
Marshall is definitely "neater", But I like the bite and aggressiveness of the Vox a lot more.
stratelite 3 months ago
marshall sounds like it has a blanket infront of the speakers. Vox is much much more defined.
jdh0858 3 months ago
@jdh0858 just a guess, but I think the cabinet of the Night Train is pointed directly at the camera, therefore you hear more top-end. The Haze cabinet is "off-axis" from the camera point of view so the top end "escapes" the microphone
bushibayushi 2 months ago 3
Vox please :D
rockme1337 3 months ago
vox sounds pretty bright and crunchy, marshall sounds more opaque and seems to take tone better. marshall on overdrive still sounds more opaque, but i like the overdrive a lot, although, the vox at high gain settings starts sounding kinda shitty, altho it sounds awesome at 12 o clock gain!
when he cranks up the treble on the marshall, it sounds awesome on it! its got those highs, plus the nice lows. The vox stays just bright but there's not much tone on it.
very, very tough decision...
chorthithian 3 months ago
I liked the Marshall more.
kamaboko1 5 months ago 5
Difficult to choose ! But i think the Vox would be the one i`d be going home with ! More my style ! Peace Ye`all !!
auto4union 5 months ago
I own a night train and just saying on the thick switch the gain really adds up And I can see from watching this you didn't quite krank the gain, just saying there is a little more push on the gain on the night train if people are thinking of buying :)
BaronVonDousel 5 months ago 2
vox for the win!
guitarb0y02248463 5 months ago
theres breakup for the vox because the freakin gain is at noon.
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Vox had a slight lead up until you switched it to the "thick" setting, then it destroyed the Marshall.
GooberNS 7 months ago
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GooberNS 7 months ago
The Vox is breaking up cuz you're using EMG pickups, they are higher output :/
ChristianMusicianPGB 7 months ago
@ChristianMusicianPGB i agree with this. I am currently using EMG 81/85 with the Night Train and I just have to back the volume off on the guitar completely, then push it up on the amp. This amp is very sensitive to on-guitar settings, you touch anything and it's totally different tone.
roysyboy 6 months ago
Marshall just got shat on!
Haloplayer20 8 months ago
whats the first song he plays!!
MitchGNRThiele 8 months ago
He starts playing around 4:00
kebekoi66 8 months ago 3
tried both of them, love em both, but i must say the Night train 15 does sound that bit crisper and has a brilliant overdrive tone but the absence of a foot switch is a real bummer if your planning on playing live with it. overall i'd go with the marshall
killeraxeboy 8 months ago
I am glad I choose the right amp.
WorldsJungleGym 8 months ago
anyone hear the hum in the vox compared to haze?
jameschoi999 9 months ago
Marshall
-Efx
-Brighter Tone
VOX
-no efx
-dull tone to my ears
(but i think both are awesome with a pedal! i personally own the haze while my buddy owns the vox)
jameschoi999 9 months ago
you HAVE TO USE the eq of the haze! than the haze will be awesome...
scarparkm3 9 months ago
I think I like the vox
gotcalves 9 months ago
More noise and less talk
PabloDarioLi 9 months ago
The Vox has no bass whatsoever. It's brittle and tinny sounding. It sounds like a cheap toy. The Marshall has plenty of round warm bass and sounds BIG.
Marshall by a lot!
LightningTheRide 9 months ago
Marshall - better clean, more compressed watered-down distortion kind of JCM2000ish
Vox - No real clean, no compression -Gritty, killer distortion sounds like an AC30 with a tubescreamer
MikefromMesia 9 months ago
a demo that REALY helped me...very nice work
it would be awsome if you made a "vox night train vs orange tiny terror" video.
teHorangeGoblin 10 months ago
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teHorangeGoblin 10 months ago
@lmsjr is da feedback on both the amps or the guitar ???????
beatlemetalicamuse 10 months ago
@beatlemetalicamuse Feedback is when the vibration comes out of the amp, and back into the pickups, creating a continuous loop. So it's both the guitar and the amp
Glockenator 9 months ago
@Glockenator i already know that but there are some guitar and amps that although u lower the volume on the gitar 2 absolutely 0, feedback is still audible. some other times, u will lower the amps volume, and feedback is still there. i was asking wether the feedback caused by the amp or the gitar, but that i alredy answered, because i bought the vox and the feedback i think is on the guitar ttk is using coz of the high output, i am using an epi sg and it has almost no feedback when strings muted
beatlemetalicamuse 9 months ago
'And I'm gonna go to the "thick" setting, which in my opinion is... thicker! *Hand gesture to indicate thickness*'
TheEternalDestroyer 10 months ago
@TheEternalDestroyer lol
echoheadache 9 months ago
vox
YerAnnoyingNeighbors 10 months ago
VOX VOX VOX VOX VOX VOX VOX VOX VOX VOX VOX VOX VOX VOX VOX VOX VOX VOX VOX VOX
JacobHilbrich 11 months ago 2
can u do a review a a mashall haze with the zakk wylde od pedal gain maxed
holyass242 1 year ago
Marshall seems pretty muddy and confined. The Vox is much more alive.
Motorcitymilo 1 year ago 21
@Motorcitymilo What does "muddy", "confined" and "alive" mean please?
dunpendertech 1 year ago
@dunpendertech Dictionary
uverdadeiro 10 months ago
@Motorcitymilo
I agree with you, Marshall Haze's sound is quite muddy. Vox Night Train, like most Vox heads, has a bluesy, brighter sound.
VSmolsky 7 months ago
hello can u pls tell me the factory preset of the marshall haze15 for biasing...cuz some some furom they said 25mv and 19mv...but i want the exact preset cuz i want to preserve the marshal haze tone pls.........
ichi612 1 year ago
dear tone king can u make a lesson how to bias a mar shall haze pls
ichi612 1 year ago
II'd take the Marshall, from this demo. the Vox is too bright and boxy sounding. Put the Vox back in it's box.
pcollenYT 1 year ago
Vox Won Hands Down!!!
DylanBStringer91 1 year ago 2
that was a painful review.less talk & more playin.
beaubilly0 1 year ago 11
@beaubilly0 I honestly like that he explains what is going on in the video before he plays, so that way if we get that amps, we wouldn't be like "Oh, my gosh, why does this sound different?"
VampireZach 1 year ago
Marshall
BleeJamS 1 year ago
I went to GC and tried out the Marshall Haze combo amp. I'm not sure what abuse that amp had been through but the build of the amp wasnt that great. It seemed to rattle a bit and made a bit of noise.
It seems to me that major companies like Fender, Marshall, Gibson etc...keep putting out "gimmik" amps in order to get the kids to buy their stuff but at what cost?
PIlotrcm 1 year ago
Sounds to me that the Vox has more mids ands obviously more gain. The Marshall to me sounds kinda flat, it has alota bottom on it put doesnt have crunchy Marshall mids...
PIlotrcm 1 year ago
night train
in my opinion the haze is a mg with tubes
superiansuper 1 year ago
the Haze.
slightblues 1 year ago
The Marshall sounds a bit too muddy for my tastes, but the VOX probably wouldn't work for me in some cases, since it's almost TOO bright. I'm using a Valveking 112 at the moment, which really gives me the tone I want. Nice review man! If you ever get a Valveking, I'd like to hear your opinion on it. :)
zamusician 1 year ago
just play the damn amps!!!
nine9live5 1 year ago
rifa mas el Ms-4 xD!!!!
marshall123gera 1 year ago
I prefer Marshall Haze. It sounds more professional while Night Train is too bright and sounds like a Digitech pedal..But the important question is which on can we use with pedals?
Ningirsutyr 1 year ago
I do love the marshall sound, but i think i'll go for the night train, thanks a lot for this comparison!! keep on rocking!
EdoardoGeninatti 1 year ago
the marshall is more versatile it can sound blusey or if you play with the eq it can rock really hard. buy this video i would rather buy the marshall but i wonder how it compares to the mesa boogie transatlantic
TeenGohan5 1 year ago
@TeenGohan5 I think the TransAtantic is in a different wattage class.
Torrello13 1 year ago
@Torrello13 it depends on how you have it set the ta15 can be 5, 15, or 25 watts the ta30 witch just came out this year would be a different wattage class. at 15, 30, and 40 watts. but even then set at 15 would be the same
TeenGohan5 1 year ago
vox night train > other small tube amps :P
cazzer13 1 year ago
sorry for all the comments but there is seriously so much wrong with this review. literally would not suggest this review to anyone interested in these two amps, it literally gives them no justice. I mean the vox sounds like absolute shit in this one, but in the 10 amps in 10 minutes it sounds amazing.
Leaving all the knobs at 12 o'clock really does absolutely nothing for us
alexglick1 1 year ago
Damn, it took you 4 minutes before you actually played something!
locoboxspaceship 1 year ago 2
They are both nice amps, I think the marshall really won me over at 8:55 . Honestly I think the vox sounds too much like the metal channel on a beginner's amp. Marshall forever!!
epihaze 1 year ago
The Marshall killed the Vox at 8:55
Marshall Forever!
GuitarSam08 1 year ago 2
Marshall really handles business when it comes to 4x12 100w, butt low wattage is in the hands of vox all day. The marshall is not bad sounding but its in now way there best attribute. Vox has made there best sounding amp to date in my opinion.
maphisshredcore1 1 year ago
Love that Marshall! I've heard it live and imo it sounds a hell lot like the vintage Plexis. Hendrix tone anyone? With a good cab it's the perfect amp for small to mid-sized gigs.
I'm getting one of those definitely!
sohamorrohit 1 year ago
And my Vox cost one hundred dollars more than the Marshall Haze here in Canada.
19army56 1 year ago
I'm a sucker for these new smaller tube amps and own them all. Marshall Haze 15, Mesa TA15, Blackstar HT-5, Blackheart Little Giant, Orange Tiny Terror and the VOX Night Train. The VOX is my least favorite although I am a fan of vintage VOX tone. I can't get near the distortion he's getting with the VOX in this video without the use of a pedal. I suspected a bad tube but changed them all and still has a less than desirable tone for what it is. I just use it for acoustic.
19army56 1 year ago
i think this review doesnt help too much. im not trying be a dick. but i think the best way to test an amp is to play it, play with the settings and shit. and pick out what sounds best.
ShinIsAsian 1 year ago
Are you Dutch? Haha your accent sound's Dutch!
Gitaaroverlast 1 year ago
No hesitation:VOX!
WilfridRUN 1 year ago
MARSHALL Haze..He needs to tweak the Vox just to compensate the primary settings he did on Marshall..
emgzwset 1 year ago
@emgzwset So what does that tell you? The Marshall isn't versatile. It means no matter how you change the knobs you only get one sound.
punkmusicmetal 1 year ago
can u make a demo od mesa boogie transanlantic and vox night train?????
ichi612 1 year ago
vox
AUSanarchy 1 year ago
Good job. I think I like vox better.
jeffmara 1 year ago
Dear ToneKing,
is the Marshall Haze trouhg 2x12 cab loud enouhg to be heared over drums, is it loud enough dor a band?
overdriven77 1 year ago
@overdriven77 A 15-Watt valve amplifier is usually loud enough to shake things of your table, and I do not recommend putting your ears in front of it when cranked.
HSammyE 1 year ago
Vox
AUSanarchy 1 year ago
VOX 4 THE WIN !!! :)
75MediumRare75 1 year ago
the night train is more my stile love it, but the marshall sounds good, want to see how the transatlantic vs tiny terror
isidrolouis 1 year ago
The main thing you are hearing is the difference between 6V6 and EL84 power tubes. Though, why anyone would feed small, vintage style tube amps with active pickups is a mystery.
GoodGearGuy 1 year ago
i love the night train
MrArniarni 1 year ago
Love the demo, I'm looking around for a smallish amp to use for home and jamming with friends. I really love the night train, but the one feature most of the smaller amps lack is an effects loop for me to play with. It seems like the only lower end amps that offer the feature are the HAZE 40, MA50 and up.
Apparently guys who like effects should just give up on tone or be prepared to spend. ;)
pbrizzolari 1 year ago
@pbrizzolari Egnater Tweaker is the amp for you... effects loop, 15 watts, very small, and cheaper than the vox!
andy474x 1 year ago
Bassier sound on the Marshall, brighter on the Vox. Kinda like Les Paul and Strat. Bottom line: we want them all ! :) Mesa, Matchless, Egnater, Vox..we want them ALL!!! :)
smkonwater23 1 year ago
Long live the Tone King!
philbio66 1 year ago
clean: marshall
overdriven: vox
DG1995gngsta 1 year ago
Why not a Dinky with passive p/us say the JB/'59 combo ?
scottd1984 1 year ago
The Night Train pwnds the Haze big time.
SnopElsker 1 year ago
wow I've always been a marshall man but the vox is pretty juicy!!!
skylardude1422 1 year ago
Ive only played the Vox but my tele sounded HUGE and it was very pleasing. If it is reliable I say go for it.
bohs1984 1 year ago
Mesa boogie shits all over any of these
6stringsandaneck 1 year ago
@6stringsandaneck yes but mesa boogie is like 5 x more expensive.
GallGael2 1 year ago
@GallGael2 not necissarily, but either way, you pay that money for the quality of the amp. so far mesa is the only company that I hear that can mix older vintage classic tones and new aged hardass rock and roll into one amp. i reccomend it. highly.
6stringsandaneck 1 year ago
@6stringsandaneck Oh of course they are great amps. The tonal possibilities are great and as you progress in quality of course you progress in price. And maybe 5 times more expensive was a bit of an exaggeration, but at least 2 times, I dont think there is a Mesa, in Australia anyway, under 3000 AUD whereas these retail for around 1000 AUD. Im just saying that for the price, these are pretty great little amps. A Mesa would be amazing to have! Haha.
GallGael2 1 year ago
IMHO....you missed the best part of the Night Train, lower the gain below 12 o'clock and turn volume up to get that beautiful clean chime on the bright channel....blows The Haze away. The Haze imo, is Marshall trying to get into the sub $1k range...not where they should be imo....too much out there that is better. With that said, i also like the Vox in gain situations as well. Maybe i'm just a Vox guy...but love the Marshall JCM series....non comparison.
robbydouglas2 1 year ago
These vox night trains all seem to have a lot of humm..in most reviews I can hear it quite well...but they also sound amazing too...
stevoe1000 1 year ago
The Vox sounds better to me. The Marshall sounds muddy. Maybe it is just the way it is EQ'd.
12stringguy 1 year ago
oh my gosh youre still talking
mabusfe 1 year ago
i cant believe how much you talk.
mabusfe 1 year ago
Haze comes with a foot pedal
vox doesn't
Haze has reverb
vox doesn't
Hazes cab is louder more powerful and bassy
Voxs cab is powerful and twangy yet not nearly as warm for different situations
Haze is far superior however dont get discouraged to try a different vox. I've played one for... a couple years now? no regrets...
6stringsandaneck 1 year ago
@6stringsandaneck I take tone over bells and whistles. Reverb doesn't mean much when you sound like you have a blanket over your speaker. . .
Twistchawa 1 year ago
@Twistchawa they both sound great. that "blanket" is a warm heartpounding feeling the amp has to offer. if you dont like it, don't buy it. simple as that.
6stringsandaneck 1 year ago
@6stringsandaneck True. I just don't feel that things like reverb and channel switching has much play in the superiority of an amp to the other. Sorry I had to get so subjective there. . . Me and the Haze have a troubled past. Haha
Twistchawa 1 year ago
@Twistchawa no worries i dont mean that the tone is necissarily better anyway. ive actually heard over the past month that the marshall tone is just an overrated british tone -_- it bugs me. then i tried a mesa boogie and my mind was fuckin blown. i think i know what ill be picking up in a couple months.
6stringsandaneck 1 year ago
try a different cab
6stringsandaneck 1 year ago
Marshall IS $100 more, but comes WITH footswitch, cabs, and it IS a 2 channel amp... The VOX to me sounded like a little 10 watt practice amp...
The Haze sounded like a Marshall...period
Mind you I AM biased. Been a Marshall guy for TOO many years! lol
boagley1 1 year ago
Flicking to Thick mode is a good start.
Pentode mode, then start cranking the power tubes up near 6-8 thru a greenback.
whatzupa 1 year ago
haha i never would have guessed the "thick" channel on the vox is "thicker"
cowsayingmoo102 1 year ago
blackstar ht 5 wins, and it's cheaper!
miguelpessanha91 1 year ago
Oh god how I dont like those EMG's..
GuitarJax 1 year ago
Marshall sounds better, the vox sounds woo thin
nevadams 1 year ago 2
I'm All VOX here, but the marshall isn't bad. i just like the night train because of the classic clean jingle jangle bright sound that comes out , and if you need a little more beef, just turn up the gain or turn to the thick mode.
louisivano 1 year ago 2
wow ... the night train just took a dookie on the marshall ...
louisivano 1 year ago 21
@louisivano i actually thought the marshall was better...seems more tonality. doesnt matter if u use these...u just need a pedal. tahts the whole point of getting tube... coz u use pedals
jameschoi999 9 months ago
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Marshall def sounded a lot better towards the end when you tweaked the EQ
andy474x 1 year ago
Marshall def sounded a lot better towards the end when you tweaked the EQ
andy474x 1 year ago
frosticle--you will get some hum through the NT because of the active pickups for sure..i run emgs with my esp ec1000 through my NT and i get some hum but it is corrected easily with a noisegate of some kind..i also have a tele i play and it produces no hum at all in either the triode or pentode mode..my advice is buy a ISP decimator, its the best noise suppressor out there and one of the best all around pedals to own besides a chromatic tuner
ZBat910 1 year ago
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ZBat910 1 year ago
wow the vox shits all over it
RetroBasement 1 year ago 4
we all understand how an amp works. 1) quit takling 2) play more than a few riffs, a nice solo comparison would be great...
kevod23 1 year ago
if you picked a "neutral" speaker why not pick some "neutral" pickups also?
coolcustomer31 1 year ago 27
Does anyone who owns the night train notice a lot of hum in the triode mode? I'm running some seymour duncan blackouts on my godin lg and the night train sounds almost over loaded with gain also, shame I didn't try the marshall, it might have worked better with the pick ups. That or theres something wrong with my night train......
frosticle123 1 year ago
the vox sound great!
marshals pritty good too though... ill take them both please =)
grahamp02 1 year ago
@grahamp02 thats what im saying
notakid1000 1 year ago
The Marshall sounds like there's a thick blanket over the speaker cabinet.
Oh Marshall, what happened? remember when you made the JTM45? *sigh*
And good lord is that Jackson guitar ugly.
BadComrade 1 year ago 3
Too much talking - not enough playing. Long story short - Shut up!
AlembicVapor 1 year ago
different tools, both sound good to me.
hirocaster 1 year ago
Vox Custom AC15C1 15W Combo or the Marshall Haze 40W Combo?????
BMOC666 1 year ago
I've tried both of these out, and this demo is good for showing what the amps can do. In my opinion, the Marshall has a beautiful clean tone - very smooth and sparkly. The Vox has a good clean, but the clean is the amp's weak point. The Marshall's overdrive is too muddy for me (it would probably not jump out in the mix - bad for lead players). The Vox is meant to be played dirty - perfect for garage-rock sounds or Brit rock like Arctic Monkeys, etc.
andrewalderman 1 year ago
Vox sounds a lot more driven than the Marshall. I like it.
mickfish03 1 year ago
Shame you didn't krank the Volume to light up those EL84. Cool Video :)
Matriu 1 year ago
To me it's all about how it mixes in a band situation. I've heard amps that sound great in a shootout but sound like crap in a band mix. Personally I think the Vox sounds OK here but would sound raspy in a mix. The Marshall sounds a little bassy here but I'm guessing in a mix would sound better. Playing gigs I'm just not happy with a one trick pony type amp. I like two channels. Speakers also have a lot to do with the tone.
ChrisinMO 1 year ago
I think the Vox kicks the Marshall's ass. Nice cleans and a nice, bright crunchy sound. The Marshall sounds muddy by comparison.
62SG 1 year ago 2
that small one kick the marshall arse :p
bimz69 1 year ago 2
I'm a big marshall lover, but I don't like the haze. The Night Train sounds more natural to me.
MarkvBavel 1 year ago 3
Vox is suprisingly good, preferred it overall (ian)
perthfem 1 year ago 2
I had to come back and give this a chance again. Same conclusion. What you can round and full to me is dull and lifeless. The Vox has a part of its sound the Marshall lacks, Life. The Vox is open and full, even with the EMG's. The Marshall sounds like they put the mike in the back of the cabnet, tone dead. I so thank you for the vids, I am for sure getting the Night Train. TY TTK
kevmofo 1 year ago
well the vox tone is WAAAY better imo, but then again its single channel which iskind of a deal breaker for me
epitaph664 1 year ago
vox is the best I have myself a vox night train it kick ass
voxnotsucks 1 year ago
To be Honest, I think the Vox sounds better on both channels. The Marshall gets the Marshall sound, but the Vox is IMHO more useable. I am gonna get the Vox based on your video so thank you very much!! :)
kevmofo 1 year ago
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Why get into so much hype......if the amp and pickups sound good just play. If most of you spent the same amount of energy learning how to play guitar instead of analyzing pick-ups, etc then you would probably be 50% better players than you are. Unreal!
gtrmike 1 year ago
Why get into so much hype......if the amp and pickups sound good just play. If most of you spent the same amount of energy learning how to play guitar instead of analyzing pick-ups, etc then you would probably be 50% better players than you are. Unreal!
gtrmike 1 year ago
@transformationfleurs not always entirly true i have one guitar loaded with emgs"i admit i do not really like them" but they are MUCH! cleaner through my tubes than many of my passives! for example lawrences x500xl have a MUCH higher gain than the emgs as do a few dimarzios(3) and a pair duncans that drive the amp just as hard as the emgs do imo prs pickups are some of the best things on this earth for clean:P
slanepuppy 1 year ago
@slanepuppy all the pu's you compare the emg's with are not famous for using them clean. prs pu's best for clean sounds???? Man, you really should try a good vintage Jazzmaster for example.
transformationfleurs 1 year ago
@transformationfleurs not known for clean sound, but still not overly bad with clean(sd, dim). i cant really use vintage pickups for what i normally play because as soon as you bump up the gain(landmine) they have a tenancy to turn to mud especially p-90s closest thing i use to vintage are in most of my guitars bare knuckles black dog(bridge) stormy Monday(neck) and then the prs dragons i cant fault either great tone clean(volume back) and when under full gain they sing!
slanepuppy 1 year ago
@slanepuppy that sounds more like a problem of the landmine/amp combination than the choice of pu's. Since 40 years I play only vintage guitars from the 60's and 70's with original pu's and never had problems like these. Usually I use only the 2 channels of my MusicMan, but there was a time I also used the Ibanez Tubescreamer. With both settings I played real screaming gain solos without any mud. Used everything from Jazzmaster to Les Paul.
transformationfleurs 1 year ago
@transformationfleurs tube screamer isn't enough gain to make them mud up need something pretty special(HIGH gain) to make them turn.
ahh yes gibson did have the right idea with their pickups definitely!
bare knuckles base their black dog and stormy monday on the original gibson paff just bumped up the output and harmonic response basically.
maybe my views on the fender pickups are a little one sided.... :P
slanepuppy 1 year ago
Vox all the way! I love that "crunch" to it
Jiggs224u 1 year ago
@transformationfleurs That's total bullshit, you can play through emg's & still have an aweomse clean sound.
You just have to know how to set the settings
Hudzan 1 year ago
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bmorenoy 1 year ago
@bmorenoy Yes?
EMG85 has one of the best clean sound I've ever heard
Hudzan 1 year ago
@Hudzan Seriously.. No.
If that's the best clean sound you have heard you don't know a thing about guitars...
bmorenoy 1 year ago
@Hudzan Yes the best clean sound for an EMG pick up but not for a pick up over all..
bmorenoy 1 year ago
@bmorenoy I never said its the best pick up for clean but its good enough & it doesn't sound "muddy" like transformationfleurs says
Hudzan 1 year ago