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  • They didn't break the law, the cops did.

  • Stupid, dirty hippy.

  • There was a order for you to leave........you deliberetely confonted the PD.... Your lose.

  • HAHA!! "i can't let go of this camera." ...what a retard. idiot got what he deserved.

  • SJPD are a joke. I have been pulled over and fucked with more times then I can count for no reason. they pull shit like this all the time!

  • That guy can sue them cops

    They need to lose there jobs or heads.

  • This video is simple, you were informed multiple times to leave the area and head the opposite way, but didn't listen to his lawful command so you got arrested!

    Someone also complained about the officer from BART who shot the guy. You never mentioned the reactions of the other officers on scene as their shock as well by the shooting.

  • You disobeyed a lawful order and you got arrested. Face it buddy you are just harrasing this poor cop, probably because you got a questionable ticket in the past, or you did get a geniuinely bull ticket. I think it's more likely you got a legit ticket and just feel you are "special" and shouldn't have to obey the laws you don't like.

  • I think the so called 'cop'watcher should mind his damn own business and to stay out of thinge he has no business poking his nose at.. Remember to MYOB? The police's job is to enforce the law, protect the public and to keep the peace. The Copwatcher's job is to poke his intrusive and bossy nose into strictly police business and to make endless trouble. GOT IT? The Copwatchers are no real help at all.

  • but isn't the "police business," really the business of the public. Are they not public servants who serve and are accountable to the public. What is wrong with overseeing and being critical of police behavior? didn't you see the bart shooting in Oakland California. What do you think would have happened if people had minded their own business and no one had recored that horrible murder?

  • wait887...Nothing is wrong with video taping the police. EXCEPT when they give you lawful orders and you begin to disobey them. When cops are giving lawful orders (ie, street closure in this case) and you not only don't do what they say, but REPEATEDLY dont do what they say, an arrest is usually what follows. Always amazes me why people are so suprised when this happens. It's not for the "citizen" to ask why do I have to go this way when told, just do it. Very simple.

  • @snjbisk. The question is, is the order a lawful order? Just because the cop tells you to cross the street with speeding cars going by and you're surely going to die, and you refuse, are you disobeying a police officer's orders? Observing without interference is allowed under the law. Police must be held accountable for their actions and the only way to ensure they are is for them filmed.

  • @wait887 Agreed. What if that wasn't filmed, the cop could have said anything he wanted and their would be no way to challenge it. Police have to be held to a higher standard; they are in a position of authority. We've seen to many instances where police have been filmed and their "sworn" statements are lies because of video evidence. Police cannot be trusted!!

  • Jacob Gelender is nothing but an affluent Jew cop baiter from Castro Valley California. He lives in relative luxery in Berkeley and he has no idea what poor people actually go through like most of his smug kind.

    You kids in Berkeley don't scare me. Why don't you come down to where crime is actually an issue and promote your psuedo-revolutionary bullshit.

    Stop wasting the cops time.

  • No, the police serves those who are to be victims of criminals who roam our streets. I arrest white, black, male, female, rich, poor, american, illegals...it doesn't matter to me.

    Actually, the police are all for taking ALL criminals off the streets, not protecting them as copwatch does.

  • how does a copwatcher protect criminals?

    copwatchers have exposed so many bad police officers that it's almost a public necessity to have them around

  • It has? Funny, in the majority of the videos that I've seen on youtube, it has been the polar opposite. I've seen copwatchers go out of their way to provoke police in order to "attempt" to prove something that isn't there.

    How does a copwatcher protect criminals you ask? You mean you haven't read the mission statement of copwatch? If you want to speak for them, then the first thing you need to do is read up on them. Google copwatch mission statement, then read to your hearts desire.

  • I arrest white, black, male, female, rich, poor, american, illegals...it doesn't matter to me.

    Yep says it all, POWER

  • The police force serves the rich/privileged and their property. They ensure violence only travels down the hierarchy.

  • This is a laughable statement.

  • Laughable if you're one of the privileged.

  • Cops are getting out of control. form the cop to the courts. Please email all BADCOPS vidios

    to me.

  • DUMB WETBACK GETTING ARRESTED!!!

  • this nigga doesn't know how 2 fuck wit the cops without gettin caught amature it takes practice believe me I ain't never been caught thats sum funny shit "you will be booked along with your camera" stupid smartass pig haha

  • How many times do they have to tell this douchebag to move? They should have whomped his ass.

  • well it sux but if they tell you to leave and you dont they can arrest you

  • Is there video from that night that would show the cops doing anything you want to post? Or is this COPWATCHER INITIATED video the only thing you could come up with?

    FYI- Reporters OBSERVE and report news.They dont try to create it and pat themselves on the back!

  • you forget officer that you're not the law of the land, you're just an enforcer and as you know police give unlawful orders, you seem upset, did you become a cop so people would respect you?

  • You right, police officer enforce the law and in this case when told to move or disperse you don't stop and argue. You move! If you have a problem with the order you go threw the proper channels and ask questions after you have complied. I can get respect without a badge or a gun. I treat people with respect and honesty until you cross the line and insist on breaking the law. Thats a decision you make, I didn't make it for you.

  • i beg to differ, as a legal observer, much like reporters copwatch has developed a reputation that sticks, for years copwatchers have put themselves in harms way without guns and vests to document police conduct. the goals of copwatch are to document and not interfere, when you see them, don't be scared. unless you have something to hide. police can kill with impunity and you're worried about non-violent observers? what kind of world are we living in?

  • Well Jacob that is easy for you to say. You see, there is a big difference between copwatch and police officers. No one is trying to kill you, but police officers have to "always" be watching. Police officers are ambushed everyday in this country, and we have the right to protect ourselves. Now then, copwatch are "not" reporters and therefore are "not" covered under the same legalities as reporters. Just thought that I would pass that along.

  • Jacob, stop for a second to actually read what you type. You are correct, police officers enforce the laws which mean that they "don't" give unlawful orders. We too are governed by the constitution and the laws set down by the Supreme Court tell us what we can and cannot do. By the tone of your videos and comments, it seems that you have a vendetta against cops. Care to elaborate why?

  • @copper2150 I have to agree with Jacob, what's the harm in observing as long as he's not in the way. The law does allow for that, doesn't it? Just because a cop tells you to jump of a cliff, doesn't mean its a lawful order!! A badge doesn't make you any more important than a citizen. Police are given a position of authority, but that authority does come with oversight. Nowhere in that video does he interfere, only observing. The order to move is an illegal one.

  • Its obvious the idiot filmed a whole night of the rally, it was all over, and the crowd left when they were told to, but he could not get cops doing anything wrong so he had to create a problem to video so he could be the hero at the next IDIOT meeting (a.k.a COPWATCH meeting).

  • "Nazi activity"!!?? People it's simple; When the police say to do something, you just do it. Enough with the "you can't tell me what to do" crap. It's not like they are mall security. If they say go the other way, there is a reason, so just do it.

  • Bullshit, the police can't tell you what to do without LAW behind it. If it's a closed crime scene that's one thing, otherwise you have FREEDOM of travel according to the United States Supreme court.

  • its called traffic diversion you retard. Police can close any street or path for any reason. They do it every year and sometimes even after busy weekend nights. If they don't want foot traffic downtown for whatever reason, they close it off. Im so tired of people thinking theyre lawyers.

  • Two words: Case law Two more words: read it

    It doesn't take an attorney to understand that there is no law allowing LEOs to close sidewalks at there desertion restricting others movement or assembly. Nice try asshole

  • lawful assembly no....but when cops declare it unlawful which they do every year at a certain time (usually 11pm) then all gatherings in that area become unlawful....giving them the right to tell whoever they want to walk any way they see fit. look at wikipedia under freedom of assembly. U lose

  • Wikipedia is where you get your understanding of the law, that explains it. Probably an typical ignorant cop.

  • Read it. Then read the 1st amendment. Tell me im wrong after that. Then well see who's ignorant. Best part about this is, the more you argue, the more retarded you sound. Just read what I told you to, and that ends things.

  • There is no law giving the police the authority to close public sidewalks. If it's a crime scene that's one thing. If an arrest was made in this case it would have not even been prosecuted. Prosecutors hate this kind of crap that the cops love doing.

  • Read the 1st Amendment! Once an unlawful assembly is declard, the police can close anything/anywhere thats public. Including, public meetings in any building, or any gathering on any street, park etc.,, Get over it dude, it is the law. How do you know if it would be prosecuted or not? What is your law background?

  • You don't have a clue fool.

  • 8900aba needs to go back to his japanese square dancing.

  • Do what your told or deal with the consequences. Do something to change the law if you don't agree with it.

  • There was no law violated.

  • California PC section 148

  • Nice try walking down the street when a thug cop tells you not to is not obstructing. You Nazi asshole like to pull shit out of your little code book to throw your weight around, and then you wonder why everyone hates cops. LOS Angeles burned Because of asshole cops !

  • LOL. Had nothing to do with jackasses like you i suppose. Oh and that "little code book" as you call it is what keeps things in any kind of order in this country. You were probably one of the looters during the LA riots! Just keep arguing, you prove my point more and more with each statement you post! Youre a jackass.

  • Ignorant Nazi

  • Seems I struck a nerve. I respectfully answer the question and am attacked by 2 of you in writing over the internet. Many of you say without the badge and gun, LEOs aren't "shit". I say without the internet, you aren't either. People like you are the reason Los Angeles burned as you say. Blame it on a failed court system but not police officers.

  • Nards55....i dont think you were talking to me. But just in case you were, you know im on your side, right? lol

  • I thought it was two different people calling me a Nazi but now it looks like the same guy calling both of us Nazis. I am not registered to that party, sorry!

  • BTW I am not a police officer but I know how to read. You two should check in with the ACLU and see what they say to do in the situation on the video. You might be surprised.

    Your comments have made your credibility so don't be surprised if I don't reply to your ignorance anymore. It was good for a couple of laughs though. I like to laugh just like the next guy so by all means, keep entertaining!

  • Cops are useless, after the fact, false security. When have the police ever helped anybody BEFORE something bad happened to them.

  • Wow, you're so right...we need to hire more of the psychic detectives on TV. Then nothing bad will ever happen.

  • being threatnd to be hit with his stick if he didnt release His property in an illegal arrest? lol wow this countries fucked! and the retards that think these kinda cops are just doing thier job! you need to read more and pay more attention to reality and get your head out of your asses and quit being pussies and going along with this type of nazi like activity.

  • nazi police, people need to quit being pussies and stand up to this type of bullshit!

    Coward ass Pigs!

  • The majority of people, especially copwatch members, who do not like the police are people who have been arrested, such as this weak video demonstrates. The majority of people who like the police are people who respect the law and do not get arrested. Plain and simple.

  • Exactly. I have a lot of respect for police officers and I doubt most copwatch members could do the job that they do. Oh, and I don't have a record. Imagine that.

  • Dude, you are a retard. The police have the AUTHORITY to order you to leave an area. I think you should be happy that they did not whip your ass for your ignorance. I hope that the police seized your video tape as evidence against your dumb ass.

  • your a retard! they do not have the right to tell you to do whatever they feel or be arrested or beat, they are my servants they work for me, i pay taxes for these streets and sidewalks i have every right to be anywhere as long as i am not interfering with police activity or commiting a crime, this guy did niether! so whos the retard? your minds been conditioned to excpet this, and you agreed cause your infant mind knows no better. so whos tarded?? lmao

  • advil, how do know he was not interfering wih police activity or commiting a crime. yes, you are right in the sense that you do pay for taxes but the nation at a large gives power to police and lets the decision be thiers not ours of where we can and cant be

  • Wrong, only if it's is a crime scene. We are not a police state, yet. You Nazi !

  • Last time I checked, if someone's getting arrested, that makes it a crime scene. I could be wrong...

  • People, if we all just stay home and watch tv, then none of this would happen. It's a simple lesson, stop congregating, and the police won't have to arrest you.

  • Dumb ass the Constitution grants Right of Assembly. People can congregate wherever they want you Nazi idiot.

  • Appearantly they can't congregate wherever. And now that Ameriacan Gladiators is back on, I can't see why anyone would leave the house! If we all just watch tv, everything will turn out just fine. Vote TV in 08!

  • Lol, that was good.

  • Video dude this crap must be better than sex for you, cuz I can't understand why you would watch cops with all the tail walking the streets that night.

  • Mouth off to the cops and you have the nerve to cry brutality??? You got what was coming to you.

  • Good video bro!

    I live downtown and the SJPD was pulling that shit everywhere, glad to see you got it on tape.

  • I watched this three times to try and understand how this video is a "defense." Gelender was given multiple opportunities to follow dispersal directions but did not, effectively baiting police. The police response was perfectly appropriate, and a reasonable jury will vote to convict. I'm only more convinced that Copwatch is a collective of reprobate nitwits.

  • Show up with the camera AFTER whatever happened. Then act like they are all innocent. Bullshit.

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