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  • in vain, things will have been WORSE BECAUSE WE WERE THERE. So this is a VERY DIFFICULT decision and it's why anyone who says their side is absolutely correct is not thinking right or is ill-informed. If we stay, we risk more lives, more billions that we don't have, but above all, it becomes EVEN MORE NECESSARY THAT WE STAY UNTIL THE END SO THAT THE MISSION, LIVES, COSTS ARE IN VAIN. If we leave, we risk the unintended yet not-definite consequence that EVERYTHING will have been in vain &WORSE

  • a limb or becoming blind or deaf etc.

    BILLIONS AND BILLIONS of dollars have and are being spent for this mission.

    SO the question is this: Do we pull out and thereby allow the human cost as well as financial cost to be all in vain? For example, if we leave prematurely, and their soldiers are inadequately equipped, manned, trained, and they are overrun (thereby incredibly boosting the morale and recruiting of the taliban and al qaida) not only were all those deaths, injuries, financial costs

  • the assistance of the u.s this reasoning is predicated on the notion that if these places remain destitute and hopeless, the people will resort to al qaida (what may have increasing influence and presence there) and conspire to attack US here in the u.s. So thousands of lives have died FOR THIS MISSION, and MANY, MANY MORE have permanent debilitating injuries for the sake of this mission

    B) ON THE OTHER HAND, again, THOUSANDS of lives DEAD; MANY MORE THOUSANDS PERMANENT INJURIES -- like losing

  • Whoever on the pro-withdrawal or anti-withdrawal side believes they're 100% right are quite frankly wrong

    The truth is there is no EASY ANSWER to this EXTREMELY DIFFICULT predicament we're in. There are many levels to this which increases in sophistication and intellect, but I'll just summarize the basic basic level:

    A) We've spent TEN YEARS AND COUNTING on this mission. What is the mission? To rebuild and train a formidable armed forces such that they will be able to defend themselves w/o

  • Ok, so I'm definately not a military strategist, and I dont really understand the politics behind all of this nonsense...but at first it was removal, now it's reinforce, guess we cant look forward to a drop in gas prices any time soon. Thx Obama.

    Another thing; I always hear that people are fighting for our freedom. Wouldn't that entail sum1 trying to take our freedom away? I dont see how fighting in iraq, iran, beaches of normandy or vietnam protected OUR freedom, no one is trying to take it

  • @tynic2006 thank you good sir u are one person who doesnt have their head high up in the shit people call

    patriotism. your right in pretty much every war we have fought we have never been fighting for our freedom we have been trying to take someone else freedom

  • LIAR AND A FAILURE! IMPEACH!!

  • I find it kind of funny that conservatives are the one protesting and bitching right now. Frankly, I think they're just scared and looking for a reason to bitch and are just afraid of something different.

    In reality, it's the left and the people who voted for him that should be protesting, not because of "socialized health care" or any of that bullshit, because he's not doing what he's promised. Why is Obama catering to the right, the minority who DIDNT vote for him?

    Bullshit.

  • zzy. you are the dumbass. why weren't you paying attention during all those obama speeches?

    not doing what he promised? I'd say you got things all wrong. he gave two messages in his speeches. the problem is that you didn't listen to one side and were busy crying and screaming yes we can! you weren't paying attention or were just in hypnotic land when he said he would bomb pakistan or when he defended the patriot act or umm when he said let us all thank president bush for his service!

    u dumb fuck

  • As of 6/16/09 "House passes $106 billion war funding bill."

    "Change we can believe in" = More propaganda from the puppet of the banking/corporate elite.

    My favorite are all the neo-liberal racists who voted for him making excuses for this filthy republocrat.

    Traitors in our midst.

  • Before he was elected he kept promising that he would bring the troups home. The language has changed.  Now he is going to withdraw the troups from Iraq. No mention of them coming home. Don't unpack your bags troups. Your headed for Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iran.

  • When I saw who the Obumma CHIEF OF STAFF was, I knew immediately the War for Israel was going to continue for many years to come. Maybe McCain's 100 year commitment was what the "Insiders" have planned. Follow the money and the DEAD BODIES!

  • Watch the 'Obama Deception' to learn the truth about Obama!

    /watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw&yt

  • All you people who drank the kool aid and voted for this shill, watch him reverse everything he promised you. Where's the change? Soon it will be all that's left in your pockets.

  • shut up..who do u mean by the people who drank kool aid

  • He means that you took the blue pill and went back to your happy oblivious life in the matrix while the machines of government continue to find new and more efficient ways to suck the life out of you.

  • Don't say the people who drank the kool aid, thats so fucking annoying the only people I've ever say that are far-right conservative shitheads.

    It was between Obama and McCain. I'd WAY still rather Obama then McCain. It wasn't we've hoped for (at least so far), but fuck, still better than that old fart and Palin

  • Fuck 'em all, and fuck you if you're an Obama fan. Dumbass.

  • he promised he would be out of iraq within 16 months. after he was inaugurated he said he would "look" at bringing the troops home in 16 months. then he said that he would "look" at bringing the troops home in 23 months. and now hes sending another 30, 000 troops to afghanistan!

    this guy is a puppet - taxes wont go down, this global warming bullshit will have you taxed for everything to "reduce your carbon footprint"

  • You're exactly right about Obama being a puppet or a patsy. Not only will he never end the war in Iraq, he'll get more good Americans killed in Afghanistan and we'll be lucky if he doesn't start a war in Pakistan.

    Never mind the fact that he supports giving the failed banks WHATEVER they need, bleeding the middle-class taxpayer white. I'm predicting revolution by 2011.

  • it gets worse - hes shredding the constitution. his volunteers that go door to door forfeited their 1st ammendment rights. he wants to disarm the counry and bring in martial law.

    watch the obama deception:

    watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

  • wow. Nice editing has been done on this video because after he says we by august 31, 2010 there we will have 50,000 troops stationed in Iraq. And congrats Obama on renaming our troops.

  • Um... There are no edits. So why not you comment on videos that are not about the goverment YOU FUCKING PRICK!

  • O snap, I challenge the almighty Obama. no no no there are some edits, mabe you should watch the daily show where he shows this speech and makes fun of obama.

  • In case you didn't know, John Stewart is Democrat. And I wasn't saying that Obama is God. Do as I say or leave Youtube forever.

  • Jon Stewart a Liberal Democrat!!! NOOOOO! whoever would have guessed that. I used that example because that just goes to show you that this was actually edited.

  • GTFO!

  • Fuck being everybody in the worlds friend. This guy is the biggest joke in American history.

    I will keep my guns, my freedom, my money, YOU IDIOTS CAN KEEP YOUR CHANGE

  • Hear, hear. Well said. I laugh every time I think about the fact that this moron is president. I honestly believe he's "dumberer" than Bush. Time for Real Patriots to stand up for their country.

  • SOHYB-- It seems like there are some commentators here that are ignorant of what is called "Sovereignty". Iraq is a sovereign nation, so it must be given its sovereign right.Obama is perfectly right in withdrawing U.S troops as the mission accomplished.

  • You're exactly right about Iraq -- except that Obama has no plans for withdrawal. He plans on keeping at least 50,000 american soldiers in Iraq as a "residual" force. Obama is just an arrogant patsy who wanted to be POTUS.

  • He openly discourages volunteering for the military. Agrees that our soldiers are adulterers & murderous occupiers. Has accused our troops of "just air-raiding villages and killing civilians". Has stated he will slow the development of future combat systems. Believes that our military is a force for darkness in the world & that our enemies are kindhearted people wanting proactive disarmement for that same euphoric society. AND Brushed off the Military Ball at inauguration. Just to name a few.

  • alqueda in iraq? since when? Since USA atacked IRAQ? oh man

  • What? Bush is the one that increased benefits and pay after Clinton gutted our military, both financially and bases. To say that Obama has done anything but detest our military is laughable....

  • funny, when Bush was in Baghdad, getting shoes thrown at him and meeting with Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, Dec. 14, 2008, an agreement had already been made to start sending troops home by that projected timeframe....but the wonderful media in this country was so focused on how wonderful it was that shoes were thrown at Bush, they neglected to print what he was there for.....how convenient!...now Obama is the badass? gimme a break......

  • obama you rock:D

  • He IS keeping 50k troops in Iraq. Funny he never mentions that...

  • Only till 2011

  • Seriously lets all put poltics aside for once and do what is human and what is right from wrong.

  • obama is either the antichrist or a badass president

  • hes a badass

  • WIN

  • Shouldn't that be "Camp Jejune"?

  • BUSH STARTED THE DAMN WAR

  • allot of people were expecting Obama to bring them out immediatly or in a really short period of time. Obama has to do this stratigaclly *srry for mispelling* and he himself said things will get worst b4 they get better. I'd much rather live with that, than an on going course of failure and zero progress, i wish u the best of luck Obama

  • This is like korea all agian. We still have 25,000 US troops stationed in korea since the end of the Korean War.

  • And how many troops do we have in Japan? Or Germany? Many troops remain overseas for purposes beyond conflict. Diplomatic and political relations, public presence, etc. The reasons extend into interjoint studies, engineering projects, etc. We cannot stay if they don't want us there, either. We're not at war with South Korea... any time, they say go, and we go.

  • but they arent in active combat. we have troops in germany too. so what.

  • Can he do it alone? or must he have a yes from congress? what is his freedom inside this issue? so they will be back by April. He will support Irak but Bush went in to destroy it. This could end up better or worse. We shall see.

  • The list of lie. funny.

    A lot of these commentators have weighed and come to the conclusion that Mr. Obama has failed:

    (1) because of his name,

    (2) he`s black

    (3) he`s not McCain

    Everything else is detail.

    If it goes bad, "see, I told you".

    If it goes good, "he had nothing to do with it".

  • "support the iraqi government"....wow

  • your a fucking idiot, the iraq government needs support they arent the terrorists the fuckin al quieda is you tool god get a fucking brain

  • What a fucking moron!!!!!!! Go to Hell hussein!!!!!!!

  • what a jackass!

  • What? Suddenly the war is successful?

  • How many troops will still be in Iraq?

    30,000?

    50,000?

    More? Less?

    Obama said he would end the war. When will that be?

  • What's with all this change? Can't he just fry some chicken, knock back a coupla grape sodey pops and relax? He won!

  • This is awesome! lol... Wow it was really interesting and pretty fun to watch. :) I am totally subscribing! ;)

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  • Ah yes. But what party has brought our country to this devestating point? What party failed to do anything in the last 8 years while in charge to prevent any of this from happening? Yes, it was Bush and the republicans. The Democratic party is always having to clean up after republicans.

  • Which, not what.

  • So very very true

  • BARACK IS A PHILOSOPHER KING .

  • Ecco un ditatore!

  • there is a method to the maddness

  • The Iraq/Iran war lasted 8 yrs because Saddam was tougher and meaner than this new Prime Minister. Iran will invade Iraq faster than the US can pullout. The Americans and Iraqis will cry out for Bush, especially the troops left behind for Iran's massacring invasion.

  • Whatever, dude.

    Do you get paid to express these "opinions," or are you just another AM radio republican robot?

  • This is not a withdrawal, we are leaving up to a 1/3 of our troops behind.

    So,Obama lied to you again and we will more likely end up staying in Iraq for 100 yrs. Except this time, when Iran attacks Iraq, your children will be drafted. Your Obama supporting Children's eyes will only be opened when they are "Dead Eyes".

  • No he said the rest will be out by the end of 2011.

  • Why do you have a God complex? You have issued nothing here except blame for what I believe is a miserable life. You can talk all you want. But what the hell is your platform? You are not the judge and jury of the human race. You may want to stop behaving this way. You are gonna say the wrong thing to the wrong person.

  • To justify anything to you would be pointless since you do not have a straight platform for which you stand. You have not pissed me off. I still wonder why the Ron Paulies like you turn your back on your kool aid sheep screwing brainwashed leader? It won't work sheepster. 10 Year olds should stay off the news channels. It is a little too much for you.

  • You have no opinion.. You did note vote.

  • You have no opinion. You do not exercise your right to vote! You have no platform.

  • You lost your right to complain since you have no candidate that you believe in. Therefore you have no platform to stand on other than the one you are on. Which is anger towards everyone. When the stimulus checks arrive.. Send it back. When the troops come home. Turn your back on them. When the new jobs are created keep your opinion to yourself. You blocked yourself out. That in my opinion is truly foolish.

  • I do not care if you do not vote. Except that if you do not vote then you cannot complain. It is your duty to vote. If you do not... Then in my opinion your opinion means nothing.

  • democracy is a sham, voting means nothing.....

  • After seeing yours I noticed you like Disney. How about a stimulating conversation. Or maybe you should get over your God attitude and go back to watching Goofy (The cartoon. Not yourself)

  • thank god that the people of the USA elected this man!

  • Really? How do you differentiate all your differing opinions in your head long enough to make any comments? Maybe you have been youtube long enough that you wrote down all these clever little phrases. Yet how about a stimulating conversation? You say so many negatives about people on here. That I am left to wonder if this is self serving propaganda to extract the paranoid religious nuts so you can all sit around and massage each others corrupt egos. Or you have no purpose what so ever?

  • I hope so. It beats the crap out of listening to you.. Judge not unless you want to be judged. Be careful what YOU wish for.. You may just get it.

  • Kinda like a virus or an aunt who won't go home.

  • In my country we do not have to be silent!!

  • So you like hanging with the insane. We may be insane... But you are just crazy!

  • Then why are you here? To preach your own propaganda? You are no different than the people you point fingers at. HYPOCRITE>

  • Well give them back THEIR FUCKING OIL U FUCKING JEWS

  • You remind me of my schizophrenic uncle (and mother for that matter - it runs in my family...). Good luck in life, you'll need it.

  • END THE EMPIRE OBAMA!

  • why would anyone join the military.

    if theres anything i truly HATE in this world, its ignorance, obedience, or an evil footsoldier for the state. i dont even hate the dictators, i hate the people that love them.

  • I'm sorry ZeroHour but I see no reason for you're illogical rant against soldiers. Our primary mission is the defense of the people. However, we still have to obey the legal orer of our superiors. If the "dictator" you're referring to is Bush, we are legally bound to obey him, without undermining his orders, in the same way that Obama has that authority. The American soldier should be remaining above the fray politically, that's not our job.

  • invading a sovereign nation with no stated mission, stealing natural resources and killing 1.5 million civilians is not a political issue. itsa human rights issue. torturing innocent civilians including children at places like bagram airbase is not a political issue.

    and training to confiscate american peoples weapons and put them in concentration camps is not a political issue. its an issue that many citizens wont need to debate. be careful what orders you follow.

  • word

  • Refusing to deploy in a time of war carries severe consequences. You may not understand what it is to make a commitment and then stick to it, but those of our military understand full well. Its a voluntary army, but once you sign the contract, you are duty and honor bound to carry out your orders, so long as they are not illegal orders. Going into what was suppose to be a legitimate war is not illegal... stupid, yes... but to expect the soldiers to give up their futures is ridiculous.

  • Plan sounds fair enough to me, At least their "IS A PLAN" and its being stated.

    Lets review the recent alternate plan by...

    Bush/Cheney/McCain... *We may be in Iraq for 100 years or MORE!*

    I would say 3 years is better than 100 years or MORE!

    The NeoCon trolls on here trying to stir up Anti-Obama fervor all the while pretending to be Democrats are pretty funny. (",)

    And if your a "Far Lefty"... (Get over it) 3 years is reasonable, sure beats 100 plus years.

  • I thought you were going to pull one to two brigades out of Iraq per month barack?

    Forget you said that?

    I thought we were wasting 10 BILLION dollars in Iraq per month that could be spent here in America barack?

    Forget you said that?

    I thought there was and never will be a military solution in Iraq barack?

    Forget you said that?

    You LYING TRAITOR!!! Bushrack Obama

  • Obama= McBush

  • You are human waste.

  • As long as US troops are there they will continue to be a target which means more deaths.

    I can't believe he is no different than Bush.

    What a DAMN LIAR and traitor you are Barack.

    You are setting yourself up to be a one term president.

  • This is such BULLSHIT

    Saying that our "combat mission" will be over in August '10 is just like Bush saying "Mission Accomplished"

    Bush thought our combat mission was over. But because we still had troops there and Iraq was still a mess, we got drawn into further fighting.

    If Obama leaves 35-50k troops there, they will again be drawn in, and we will remain at war through the end of his first term.

    The only solution is withdrawal. Let the Iraqis, Afghans, and Israelis fend for themselves!

  • Because Bush was planning to withdraw everybody that week, but gosh darn it, those silly terrorists just kept fighting back!

    Seriously though... the troops remaining there will not be in combat positions. If they take up combat positions without specific orders to do so, they'll face court martial for it. The solution is withdrawal, but the reality is that it isn't happening overnight, and that we made a mess of things.

    And the Israelis are our ALLIES, remember?

  • The messenger of Allah has spoken......

    all glory be to the mighty Allah...........

    perhaps humanity may have a chance......

  • I'll ignore all the spam and trolls here and say that, while I favor a quicker withdrawal, I think this is a very good plan.

    Obama is clearly committed to ending the war. Who would rather have in there? McCain and Palin? We won this political battle.

    Guess what, folks? Did it ever occur to you that Obama, as President, may know facts and realities that we don't? Let's not quibble over 16 months versus 19 months... he's ending the war, and that's what we all want.

    This is a good occasion.

  • It's NOT 19 months. IT'S 3 FULL YEARS.

    All of 2009.

    All of 2010.

    All of 2011.

    He lied and has contradicted everything he said for the last 2 years.

    I won't vote for him ever again. He's a LIAR and another Bush.

  • wqvsaa: Iäm not an American but the way I see it is that in your democracy you would've been stuck in Iraq for maybe 50 years. so 3 years is always better then 50.

    Also. didnt he just take office? I meaan give the Man at least a year before you abandon him. You have a funnny sense of Loyalty.

    Peace,

  • BS, we voted for him based off the TOTAL WITHDRAWL of US forsces in 16 months. That meant 1 to 2 brigades per month being pulled OUT.

    He lied to us for 2 years and he will NEVER receive my support from this day forward. FUCK HIS LYING ASS.

  • Thats right, ignore the fact he's doing exactly what he said he'd do, and quibble over a few months difference in the plan. Do you think McCain would have them home any faster? But no, its entirely logical to drop all support of a president that actually seems to give a damn about his people and the soldiers. Yup, very logical.

  • Anyone who's telling you they no longer support him are just posers, don't fall for them. They're the sore losers that wanted 4-8 more years of senseless war and fear mongering. Nobody seriously drops a president in his first month in office.

  • well said...

  • Semper Fi indeed

  • I thought we were less safe here in America because of our presense in Iraq Barack?

    Now that you're in office you forgot you said that?

    Alot of people voted for you because you said you'd pull ALL FORCES OUT in 16 months and you have just LIED to the nation today.

    You will not get my vote if you run again in 2013.

  • No that is not what he promised. He promised during the campaign to leave a residual force for training and stability. The only thing he changed is the timeline from 16 to 19 months.Hardly betrayal

  • BS, he said he would pull one to two brigades per month. He's been in office for over a month and he pulled NO brigades out. LIE #1

    He said ALL US forces would be out in 16 months. It has changed to 3 years now. The end of 2011. LIE #2

    He denies what he change the mission from combat to WITHDRAWL. It's still combat. LIE #3

  • BS urself, did u prefer bush? all he did was lie,Obama he has a hell of a lot more responsibility on his shoulders than u ever will ALSOevery presidant theres ever been for america has lied alot more than three times you sit on ur ass all day while hes trying to fix america what for? for people like you when all you do is criticise and make half assed judgements without even knowing all the facts the day u have over four million people relying on u for freedom then u can judge obama k? thx

  • it doesn't matter who is president, republican or democrat, we are fucked either way.

  • It's his right to criticize a politician if he doesn't agree with him.

  • 16 months has turned into 3 FULL YEARS. What a damn LIAR he is.

  • its hard to hate obama its a shame he has liberal views on economy.

  • Copy and paste this into the search window : Barack Obama Reconfirms Stance On Iraq Timetable

    You will that he has LIED to us all by contradicting everything he said in that video.

  • Well hopefully we will take you first. That will get you off you tube.

  • And you are the creator of all the magical fairy tales that will lead us down the path to true happiness. And when all is said and down. I will flourish in the true that comes babbling out of the mouth of a lunatic. The rise of truth?

  • It is Ok. These pills will chase away your demons. It will be OK.

  • omg r u a aliun? ^_^

  • Your page says you are from the United States. Then you are part of the problem. If you are not from the United States then you have no opinion here. No matter what though. You need a couple pills to help you see the real world. We are trying. And we will accomplish things. Yet no matter what people like you will never be satisfied.

  • Why do you insist on spamming this video's comment section with idiotic and nonsensical comments.

  • This man has done more in one month than Bush did in 8 years. To all the Ron Paul sheep.. Wake Up!!!!

  • Ron paul would have been the best option, but I'm much more happy with obama than I would've been with mccain, that's for sure.

  • Well I can absolutely agree with that! Yet McCain is supporting Obamas decision.. Everytime I think I have it figured out. One of them changes their minds!

  • "This man has done more in one month than Bush did in 8 years."

    No s#$t that's the problem dumb ass and your calling others sheep tisc tisc.

  • What is the problem? Bringing the war in Iraq is a problem for you?? I know that idiots like you will jump on the next negative band wagon. I prefer to savor this moment.

  • Bringing the war in Iraq to an end.

  • Wow that was very incoherent of you, good little sheep.

  • Umm so you understand things that are incoherent?

  • Obama IS the real deal. I remember him saying, over and over again, that we would be as careful getting out of Iraq, as we were cereless getting in.

    Best of luck, mr. president!

  • Israel doesn't listen.

    Listening means they don't get to be the ultimate power in the Middle east.

    Being a Bully is ALOT easier then being kind, in their case at least

  • It's good to see that there's an end in sight.

  • SEMPER FI!

  • Good news I hope Israel was listening.

  • well....to end with "semper fi"....

  • This is a reasonable plan - and pretty much what he promised. Obama is the real deal.

  • This was Bush's plan, straight out of Bush's playbook. It was Bush who wanted to leave behind a residual force for the exact same reason.

  • bush never wanted to leave Iraq, obama is gonna do it by 2011

  • Talk is cheap. Seeing is believing, go listen to what Dennis Kucinich is saying

  • Dennis aint the President

  • Your guy is a liar plain and simple no better than G.W. himself. He said sixteen months over and over and over again than when it came time to do what he said he rolled over and did a flip flop right into Bush's agenda, ha deal with it.

    Do a search of tpmtv's own vids title,

    Barack Obama Reconfirms Stance On Iraq Timetable

  • 3 more months is not a big deal

  • Yes, except Bush expected to be down to ~30,000 troops in 2003.

    That didn't work out so well, did it?

  • Thanks for making my point for me. If you think all the troops will be leaving by 2011 you are kidding yourself.

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