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  • Is there anything worth dying for if you believe that you are going to live forever as a human being?

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  • Consider the words of W. B. Yeats, you being-a-mortal-human-being-is-­not-enough-dudes: “Hell is the place of those who have denied (being ‘just’ human, i may add in this case);

    They find there what they planted and what dug,

    A Lake of Spaces, and a Wood of Nothing,

    And wander there and drift, and never cease

    Wailing for substance.”

  • Wow, sounds amazing, but there's a pretty good chance (in my humble opinion) that this immortal, unimaginably intelligent, mankind-absorbing entity the singularitarians are striving to create will be a very very poor devil, experiencing just infinite boredom and desperation?

    Wouldn't that be a heartbreaking irony?

  • A lot of the comments that question Kurzweil's predictions should read his book. This movie is good, but the Singularity is Near is far more in depth and more technical.

  • um yeah seananners why just why?

  • Deus X: Human Revolution

  • He is right about most things he say, but one thing. I doubt it will be that quick, I think each calculation is maybe 10-50 years off ^^

  • how is living forever for the better of human kind... we already have enough problems with hunger and population. We are improving technology like never before, but is all of the technology good? My answer no. im terrified of robots. fuck em. they aint taking over my world. imma go bruce willis on they ass if they try.

  • @cman4145

    With the ability to live "forever" the current Human problems will be gone, I can assure you of that. We might still have small signs of wars or poverty in regions of Africa but that's about it. By the time we can live forever, we will most likely have new energy source, another planet to inhabit, solved many of our problems and so forth.

    This is all plausible unless we destroy our selfs before then. Don't be terrified of Robots, you seen too many movies ;)

  • Seananners sent me.

    

  • sounds like deus ex :P

  • seananners.

  • Crackpot or not. We´ll see in 25 years.

  • @DinkerTinker1 hopefully crackpot. i dont want to be living in a terminator movie.

  • @cman4145 I assume people won´t be forced to become a terminator (well, you never know what the governments will force people to do when the tech opportunities are available for use), but I can see your concern:).

  • Transhumanism is communism with a chip in your brain. Oh but don't worry, you'll like it,

  • @GalaktikNinjA Just because you fail to understand doesn't mean that you need to spread your confusion to others, with a dash of cynicism to seal the deal.

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  • Immortality has already been achieved by man. Study the 18 Siddhas or Mahavatar Babaji. The problem isn't in how fast technology grows...it's in the fact that man's morality and spirituality isn't being developed alongside his materialistic achievements.

  • @LennyRevell I mostly agree, but I'm not sure how you define spirituality. Regardless, I don't see what you said in your last sentence as being the case with Ray Kurzweil.

  • Why would you create a competing species(AI)? Madmen

  • @GalaktikNinjA AI has the potential to be many things other than a competing species. In the entire movie, he never says "I want to create a competing species". Don't straw man the Transcendent Man.

  • @TapesTree Lol, that doesn't mean it couldn't become just that/

  • @GalaktikNinjA Obviously! As I already established in my last comment when I said "has the potential to be many things." So what are you proposing? That we should fear new ideas because in the entire spectrum of potentials, it includes the potential for something bad to happen? Remember that this AI would be a human creation with intelligence that arose out of human input. Proper input is up to us, and fear of the unknown is absurd and weak. 

  • To all these starry-eyed "I love transcendence and transhumanism!!!" people, open your eyes! The true transcendence is spiritual, not of the flesh! If we aren't allowed to die, we can never truly transcend. It's a trap. Our spirits will remain trapped in this flesh, in this existence, which is more of a sleep state.

  • @SmoothCinnamonX There is no spirit. We are simply information

  • @SmoothCinnamonX What about your own starry eyes? You talk about this like you've already lived that particular future. How can you sanction off these ideas into being "of the flesh" and not "spiritual"? How do you know that death is the key to transcending? What is your idea of true transcendence? What if our entire existence is greater than your (one persons) idea of it?

  • @SmoothCinnamonX If your willing to risk your life on the 'maybe' of there being an afterlife, go right ahead. But don't delude yourself that many others wants to join you.

  • Ray , Second 37 , there is a spiritual truth on that quote

  • this mite be the dude the turminator is sent to protect

  • Interesting

  • sweet

  • Joe Rogan Experience.

  • Our race would change. We would become super humans who could never die. People say that's bad, but who are you to say? We would be living forever... exploring the universe, and better yet; and all understanding species (eventually).

  • Gary Johnson is the best presidential candidate for the american people. He has the most logical and ethical economic solutions for this nation as a whole. I ask that you at least research him, and if you do not, if I did know you, I'd have to ask, why are you voting when you do not have all the facts? Why vote only for your own sake instead of for the sake of our nation . Take some time and read, and see what else is out there? besides what the media tells you

  • @dkoribag1 Yeah, gary johnson comes off uniquely as a very competent politician. Hes got a great record, thats for sure.

  • No,actually this happened 4.5 billion yeas ago inside hydrothermal vents..!o!..

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  • what he's doing can actually destroy us... cant he understand that

  • @TychoTu I understand that people with great minds have been murdered out of fear and lack of understanding. What he's doing makes sense to me when I think of a very basic question: What is the goal of mankind?

  • I can't feel my legs.

  • and extension maybe we can resolve the aging of cells

    ..... but eternally it cannot be happens were not God......

  • Hmm...so will we be able to create new human...say, customized hot girls w/ tight pussies and nice tits?

  • @mindsoulbody You could actually become a hot girl with tight pussy and nice tits, but then what use would we become to society if we never left the house coz we was to busy... umm yeah.

  • @cutestbabycomp are u kidding me? I would make food, house and other stuff that way. AND if i need to help someone I could teleport there and help them and be back at home to bang her in a few minutes. lol

  • @mindsoulbody A new human for the fading out human? For an ignorance is bliss sort of thing? It's possible.

  • Lol Shatner...

  • Cool! Is this on Youtube? Looks pretty objective from the trailer but it's probably biased in favor of Ray. Which is good because i'm also biased in favor of Ray, futurism, transhumanism, etc. : )

  • I'm alive now. There is no time in my world, just the moment. Hold on to your asses people, we are going to live until we want to die...

  • Lets see if we can contain a nuclear disaster like Fuckashima then we can say we're all that. Until then, we are going to intake radiation that will kill millions.

  • what

  • This future is inevitable, we will not stop growing as a technological species until we as a species end. All that can be done is to make certain that the transition is a smooth one. The media will play a pivotal role in this, however they decide to spin it. The new documentary Programming the Nation addresses media manipulation and is generally a really interesting film. Here's a link ht tp:/ /bitly .com/ra MjYx

  • @kubrikahn Yes, and it will come to an abrupt end when the next massive x solar flare comes this way and knocks us back in to the dark ages.

  • This materialistic concept of humans not being good enough is the result of what modern culture has all but eradicated in the west, the concept of continuity of energy, or (re)incarnation. I love how some humans think that nature is so "wrong" that we must make it better. If these people actually considered the universe holistically and studied more in depth history, maybe they would realize that there is some relevance to the idea that our bodies are merely vehicles for experience.

  • Enough with the merging. Just make it so I can still take a sh*t in a clean bathroom. Anyway how bout that dude Crapper. He invented the crapper! Way better idea than any of this New World Order talk. Jusayin'

  • After watching this documentary I couldn't help but question. Why in the hell are these scientist wasting time trying to create machines/robots that will potentially become smarter than us.rather than creating efficient things, like say I dunno machines that help can keep this planet clean?? If we can't even take care of our planet what makes them think that we can handle AI's/robots? This guy is insane and completely arrogant when it comes to his ideas. Everything man made decays remember that

  • @ElLay4Life " Why in the hell are these scientist wasting time trying to create machines/robots that will potentially become smarter than us.rather than creating efficient things, like say I dunno machines that help can keep this planet clean??" " Everything man made decays remember that"

    You pretty much gave the answer there. Man doesn't currently possess the level of intelligence required to directly solve all its problems. But with machines that are smarter than us....out of characters, damn

  • what bugs me is that there are really interesting thoughts and ideas, but its all portrayed to shock and flash the audience, in the end, theres pretty much nothing left and interesting things disappear under a huge pile of shallow sentences and THE TERMINATORS WILL COME, I WANT TO LIVE FOREVER, DONT YOU?! blabla...

  • Begining>First Steps>Understanding>Crescendo>­­Climax>Destruction .... How inteligente are this inventors if they are not fully understand the consequences of their work or the nature of this universe?? This people are not spending money to invent all those things to save humanity but to save themselves. We get all the crap, that shiny stuff. Mp3 Player, Smartphones, Game Consoles.Everything that dazzle you and blind you. Wake up people

  • where can i see the full documentary

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  • knowing all that with 17 make me a genius?

  • The stuff Ray talks about is interesting but his voice is just so damn monotone and boring that it puts me to sleep.

  • 1:47 - man will get sharingan in 2029, holy crap BRING ON THE SINGULARITY!!

  • cool the Pill guy got a movie and I can't wait for an immortal Shatner and Nimoy

  • If everyone lives for eva the world will be cramped up after some years

  • @Mee551able

    actually by the time we can achieve immortality we will be able to travel to other planets. the people of tomorrow will be alot more willing to leave behind this planet and start fresh somewhere else.

  • @anikorising Im not that botherd

  • @7thHiigaran lol this planet is not over populated, china, us, India and some countries are but if u take a look at how much ppl u could fit in Russia and Canada, you would realize that this world if rather empty in some places, in fact you could fit every single person in the world in Russia and it would have the same population density that china has atm.

  • @mufasita6 overpopulation isn't really about geographical space, it's about logistics.

  • @mufasita6 In a monetary/ market system we are living in, then yes, we are over-populated. If we actually took out the root causes of overpopulation, which is, money/markets which creates scarcity, and create abundance by using science and technology, we can have over 30 billion people on the planet. It is up to us to evolve our socioeconomic system, since the one we are living in, is severely outdated.

  • @benandreas369 completly, idk why i wrote such a stupid response lol

  • @mufasita6 Your response was not stupid! I agree with you, just wanted to reply to this NWO freak lol.

  • Only 15% of the world's population is first world but we consume a majority of the resources and create most of the pollution. Overpopulation is a humanitarian problem, not an environmental one. It's only an environmental problem if we continue using primitive technology.

  • No way that computers will have conciousness, unless they are human to begin with. And as for your immortality idea if people lived forever dont you think the worlds population would be sky rocketed because no one would ever die? Then you would run out of food and pollution will be higher than its ever been! Either way you look at it you can't escape death Mr. Kurzweil. You have to face it as the inevitably. You will die one day. Nanobots will not protect you from getting hit by a truck.

  • @ericachavez43 why cant robots have consciousness? there is going to be a point where technology will be advanced enough to have consciousness, and what make u think we will stay on earth forever, also we can already make synthetic meat. we will probably make mars hospitable and move there and depend on solely on synthetic products when the earth runs out of food to provide us.

  • these GODLESS people are going to KILL US ALL!!!!!!!!!!.. MAD SCIENTIST

  • evil

  • I really do hope he is right but I'm still a bit sceptical about all this.

    I'm 20 years old so I'll be alive when all of this happens so if it all comes to pass, great!, if not well too bad.

  • @7thHiigaran >Need middleclass to make money

    >Trying to get rid of the middle class

    What?

  • @7thHiigaran  Ya, a government bad hur dur, we get it. I guess that's why the average life span increases every year right? Because the government is killing us huh?

  • My uncle did editing on this movie! :D I am not even kidding... o_o Isnt that neat! ^_^ GO DOOBIE!! :)

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  • everyone knows stevey wonder is one of the greatest scientific minds of his generation,.......wtf

  • ahh it's deus ex becoming real

  • 33,333 views :P

  • It is so easy to accept hair brained ideas without proper understanding of the biological limits to augment mental capabilities. Faith is at work here, nightmare dreams is how I see this nonsense. Seem to me that people are afraid of dying, maybe I should use the word frightened if it makes more sense to those who used it. I could choose to not take a heart PRINTED in to my body but that would not prevent the nightmare unleashed on society.

  • I agree with some previous comments, this man is mentally sick and those who accept his ideas are as sick. Somehow this ideas seem to me similar to religious ideas of eternal life and permanent bliss. How boring!!! Probably we will kill each other in such world.

  • @franciscojaguilar It's cool that you have your own philosophical objections to life extension, or brain augmentation that allows us to be in states of mind which would otherwise be impossible, but calling the people who talk openly about these technologies mentally sick is pointless. It makes you look silly and frightened. At the end of the day, if you don't want to have a new heart printed into your body after your heart attack, thereby extending your life, don't get it. It's that simple.

  • these people are fucking phyco , For all of you claiming yourselves human agree with this things are sick .

  • rolling it out later

  • all this they just

  • Kurzweil = Globalist. They already have a

  • DEUS EX

  • one day,i giant computer will rule the world,will give the best advices and take the best decisions based on fact not money.

    i will give every human a job that they are the best at ,not the job you had by a friend or politics...so everyone would be happy doing what they do best and creating good things for the whole humanity not for a bunch of people.

  • a survey was taken of around 1000 people and were asked if they wanted to know the time for which they would LIVE..turns out96% said no to it and 4% opted for wanting to know it...but when u realize that u have exact time left to live out your life and the things you wanna do in it...its not liberating...natural order is the way of life technology may make us live longer...but then there are some things which will be fundamentally same....!!!

  • @paladin1684 oh yeah i forgot that theres people that know my exact death date

  • Mann... This could happend.... It would be VEEEEEEEEEEEEE.....EEEE....EEE­RYYY...YYYY Cool....

  • @MrZagg81 This is because you belive in god...

  • This movie has been leaked and I have seen it. Ray K. is a front man of the global elite and a psychopathic person who is part of a plan to kill off 80% of earths population and live forever.

  • Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man.

    Luke 17:26

  • now line up to be mindless drone in Ray's computer system...

  • Well developed nanotechnology is 20 years away, what are we going to do with it?

  • all he is saying is that our technology is moving faster than we can accumulate, and technically hes right with every new breakthrough, the gates to 10 more appear, things many would consider scientific fantasies have already been designed and created and tested and have been found working, all thats keeping us back are the financial expenses, but because we dont do it doesn't mean we cant, just 1 generation ago TV was Black and white, today we can literally create people in movies.

  • HAVEN'T THESE PEOPLE SEEN THE MATRIX, TERMINATOR, AND iROBOT? AI is a BAD idea. The day they make A.I., Im going to South America to buy a 40mm grenade launcher off the black market.

  • This stuff is old news... We traveled light years in knowledge and technology by the time this movie was made... I'm super smart now and this guy seems like he is as smart as a 1st grader compared to me... what an idiot

  • @LonghornTovar1: Sure buddy...

  • The only reason life is even remotely interesting is because it ends...

  • ...ready fi-WAR!!!!

  • "There is not the slightest reason to believe in a coming singularity. The fact that you can visualize a future in your imagination is not evidence that it is likely or even possible. Look at domed cities, jet-pack commuting, underwater cities, mile-high buildings, and nuclear-powered automobiles — all staples of futuristic fantasies when I was a child that have never arrived. Sheer processing power is not a pixie dust that magically solves all your problems." - Steve Pinker

  • mi-ready general; lead the way!!

  • “It will be the universe waking up” - #RayKurzweil

  • SHllllllT i click Dont like... sorry guys... actualy i like.

  • man...! transcendence is old... its time to be HERE! Oh! but you're not ready for that... its something your kids will understand (LOL you can tell I'm being... whateveR)

  • Ray says in the documentary that he doesn't accept death. To deny death is to deny life. You cannot have life without death. "We" are moments and experiences, "we" are always changing form. Machines will have to regenerate themselves just as the human body does, in doing so they become "God in another body" poetically speaking.

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  • Either way, this documentary was entertaining as hell, and I would suggest you watch it.

  • I guess the question of immortality is theologic and ethical. Seriously, Who would want to live forever? I imagine that one's soul gets tired of living after a long period of time, after all its altering the natural course of the individual. I dont think it's wrong as long as the individual is okay with it.

  • @geocloud2000 Of course. People may choose to allow their hardware and software to degrade, or even actively destroy it. Theology is like the paranormal, though; meaningless.

  • @geocloud2000

    How come religious people never question whether they would get bored living forever with Jesus?

  • technology is spanding and multiplyingat a greater speed. Who would of thought 20 years ago that we have little computers smaller than a pocket called cell phones. I do believe technology will be a versatile solution for all our problems

  • good thing Jesus is coming back to save all the true believers

  • @getitcraze good try, troll

  • i robot then the matrix..smh

  • i robot smh

  • when is it coming out?

  • Humans have the capability to prolong life but also to obliterate life as well.

  • The mind will not need a mediator in the form of some kind of merging with machine to deal with the growing influx of information, all it will take is the development and reliance upon intuition... which is the exact opposite of the analytic mind that Mr. Kurzweil clings to and as a result thinks we need some kind of cybernetic symbiosis.

  • A good personal computer, that we can walk away from and unplug when needed, is acceptable in my world, but getting a biological 100% working body implanted with "stuff" is odd. To relieve a handicapped person of limitations that the same person decides to deal with is also acceptable.

  • it would be cool

  • You will die, there will just be a computer program adamant that it is YOU. Of course, you could co-exist with tthat program - or have it running in multple places. They could argue who is the 'real you'.

    Sort of like the Star Trek transporter. Really it is a copy of yourself - you died in the scan process. If I sell you a card board box in which one end shred you to bits like a blender -then 1000 miles away an actor jumps out be 'you' and looks like you - would you vacation that way?

  • I've just finished watching this film and Ray Kurzweil, IT genius that he is, has some very serious 'issues', primarily concerning the death of his father and his own health. The guy takes 200 pills per day, but still has to have open heart surgery, albeit for a congenital heart defect.

    He's made some wonderful inventions, most notably a Reader for the blind, but to extrapolate his believing it a 'good thing' that we may all someday be everlasting robots I find horrifying.

  • @carriemaizey I got the same vibe that Ray has some serious issues with the death of his father. Honestly, I think that this documentary just put a bad spin on his noble purpose. He is trying to invent his way out of death, I don't think he has any trouble letting his father go -like the documentary would have us believe-.

  • @BowDownToSwineflue Never had nightmares about 'death' ever. Particularly same opening lines of this film. Better he sticks with improving prosthesis and believe his noble purpose lies there.

  • WTF...R U serious?!?!

  • marcus aurelius says in his book "meditations of the mind" that if you were to live for say 30,000 years you would become very bored as everything in the universe happens in cycles & the longer you lived the more you would notice the cycles.

    Probably not as articulate as he put it but hey your on the web look it up if you want the original quote or better still read the book its very thought provoking & dense with knowledge.

  • It is up to all of us how fast we want to progress. Our collective consciousness will determine the fate of this planet. -not some scientist's prediction. They throw all of this arbitrary information in front of you to scare you. When you are scared, you enter a lower vibration. Instead, seek the higher vibrations of consciousness.

  • It did remind me of the movie Vexille

  • there's a lot of things in this world that we'll take for granted and not even realize before we die, I don't think living forever will change that, it will probably make it worse. I want to have that moment where i realize i'm going to die one day and see what i do with that moment. To me that could be worth living for, that one moment where you begin living outside of everything you've known and you just let go

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  • if you're gonna argue like little kids.....do it over email...nobody's gonna read your stupid essay comments

  • @samsam114 indeed

  • Didn't our parents and teachers say that by this time, we will be transporting via jet packs and flying cars?

  • @owhsht310 "Our parents and teachers" aren't Ray Kurzweil, are they.

  • I think that first part was cut out. I went to C-SPAN to watch that whole interview and it did not appear in the segment.

  • I see atheists need a hope, we all fear dying. So maybe they can merge with machine and be a cyborg. Or have their memories downloaded onto a harddrive to be rehash on a computer. Your custom dna kids can be ordered off a menu with preinstalled cyborg talents, with enough moolah. Or you can just admit your not God and be His and happy like you are supposed to. Your choice.

  • @foxterrier65 Be 'His' and be happy like we're 'supposed' to? Who says so? An outdated stupid book that carries no validity? I think id rather take the 'merge with machines, download memories, DNA engineered kids' than accept a growns up's version of an imaginary friend... we've all got to grow up some day you know.

  • I think it's pretty silly to view the (im)mortality argument as black & white - we either die or we NEVER die? Whatever happened to the idea of dying when you feel ready for it? Personally, if immortality were an option, I'd do everything I ever dreamed of doing, experience all the things I wanted to until I'm finally satisfied - and when that day comes, I would then say goodbye to all my friends & family and then simply turn out the light. Perhaps it won't be all that simple, but one can hope.

  • @AM5EN What if the things you wish to accomplish are ever increasing and modified, how long is long enough to live when the diversity of things to do and your own ability to do them increase without end? Perhaps the entire notion of immortality is simply the endless pursuit of goal after goal after goal, until there is nothing left to be done, or simply, the end of time itself.

  • Its still impossible to make predictions that are close to being accurate or specific about technology or culture more than 10 years into the future.

    That being said, i do believe that the fields of neuroscience and robotics will merge at some point in the future, and hopefully we should see a human-like AI within our lifetimes.

  • I hate when people say that we will live forever. We will not live forever. I'm going into microbiology because I want to defeat the aging process and increase human life span, I think that an indefinate lifespan is within reach of the younger generations, but forever never ends its infinite. A googolplex is just as far away from infinity than the number 1, it never ever ends. This might make people feel uncomfortable, but nothing last forever, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try.

  • @Keim4ever "This might make people feel uncomfortable, but nothing last forever"... Therein lies a flaw in your logic, by stating an absolute truth....you are implying something that lasts forever, the Absolute Truth That Nothing lasts forever, can't last forever, and thus the truth is not absolute, which proves that nothing last forever(absolute truth), A paradox ensues...

  • @Keim4ever you said "nothing" lasts forever! That means "Not lasting forever" lasts forever! THERE YOU GO! if "not lasting forever" lasts forever, then we have a chance, too!

  • @Keim4ever "Come on, you sons of bitches! Do you want to live forever!" One of my favorite quotes, lol. I sure as hell don't want to live forever. When I was younger, I thought I'd be happy to live 30 years, but now that's not so far away, I've changed my mind :) 50 would be OK I think, as long as I could still live comfortably, and not in some kind of Soylent Green sort of world. Nonetheless, I'm going into AI, and hope someday we can make machines more intelligent than us.

  • @Keim4ever the universe will did so give up on that 

  • @Keim4ever the universe will die so give up on that unless we have crazy power to make a new universe and go in

  • @FIGHTFANNERD3 Well an advanced civilization could potentially prevent the universe from its death. But thats only an idea. I have no knowledge of what a civilization a billion years old is capable of.

  • @Keim4ever I wouldn't take the "We can live forever" quote so literally. If we were able to live 500-600, or 1000s of years old it doesn't mean we haven't acheived anything. 1000 years is just as close to 100 years to infinity, but that doesn't mean the effort is hopeless. Now having a super-overpopulated world is obviously an issue with that, but that's another whole discussion.

  • @Keim4ever How do you know nothing lasts forever? You may not be able to reach "forever," but if you continue to live indefinitely...that is forever.

  • @Keim4ever The universe is not not going to last forever so no we will not either. But I think they are refering to living for a very long time. I think it would be interesting to actually witness evolution plays itself out in man and beasts.