me quede anonadada hace mas de 30 anos que no veia la habana ni en foto,esta destruida.gracias a los castros que acabaron con ella.Van a pagar con sangre ellos y sus secuaces.
Muy hermoso tu video,espero que la hayas pasado de maravilla,me siento un poco celosa porque,quisiera ser tu y estar en ese momento,ahi disfrutando de mi linda gente,y mi hermoso pais,a los que amo entranablemente,ysiempre permanecen en mi corazon,gracias por la puesta del video,muy bello todo,y varadero....es tan bella,que,cada vez que la veo,me quedo sin palabras!!!!
Dear Pinktree1980 the song´s name is: "Hasta siempre Comandante Che Guevara" and the singer is "Nathalie Cardone" from Spain. You can get for free the "Lime Wire" program to download this song and much more Regards, Joelou Habana.
Very nice video, congratulations. Everybody in Havana videos are using the same "Che Guevara" song, I do not know why because Cuban salsa, rumba or sones music are great too. Anyway thank you for the good images.
Politics are rather stupid at this point when China owns us and we can`t take care of our own. Cuba is a beautiful place and everyone should visit given the oppertunity. Yes you will leave Cuba both sad and greatful. But, you will be happy while there and afterward.
No more political comments, I'm bored now. If you want to debate Marxism or any other economic theory then might I suggest a <b>political messageboard</b> and not a video of <b>holiday clips</b>... this seems somewhat obvious to me, though evidently some others haven't quite figured it out yet. Don't waste your time writing anything unrelated to the video, the comment will just be deleted.
Haha he won't be commenting anymore, he did but I deleted his comment and blocked him, there's only so much stupidity I can tolerate. Hope the info helps, send me a message or a comment when you get back telling me what you thought of Cuba! Hopefully I'll be going back in a year or two and will see somewhere else in Cuba, so if you have any recommendations, send em' my way.
what do you mean jonny? i was the one who told you what -- 100 comments ago -- to NOT mix politics with views of the cuban people or island. many native cubans bristle when politics is mixed in with the views of the cuban people. and as i told you -- look at the video YOUTUBE:"cuban sandwich" to see a REAL video of cuba -- not this tourist propoganda.
Yeah, and who was the moron who started talking about politics? Where do you see politics in the video? Where did I invite people to talk about politics? Think about it (must be hard, I know) - had you not commented on my video regarding politics, would I have randomly started commenting on the state of Cuba's economy and social welfare? Furthermore, there is no such thing as 'tourist propaganda' you uneducated prick. Now please, fuck off.
Hahaha it's a relief to see somebody just make a nice normal comment that doesn't relate to international politics and Fidel Castro! :D
As for tips, there's not much to say, as whatever you choose to do you will find amazing, it's a place no video or picture can truly convey. In Havana, make sure you visit La Plaza de Armas and La Plaza Vieja - they're in Old Havana and they're lovely little squares, great to sit and have a cool drink. How long are you going for, and where will you be staying?
we got a good package deal in nov for 3 nights in havana at NH parque Central (to hopfully party/drink lots mojitos!!??)and then 7 nights in varadero staying at Blau varadero.
do you recognice them?? please be honest,id rather be prepared if it not all good news!!!
was planning whilst at varadero - do a little side journey - hire a car and head to trinidad area for a night.sound feasable??
Thanks for your help - i will definatley check out those places you mentioned x
Haha NH Parque Central is where we stayed in Havana, it's a nice hotel close to the Capitolio building and la Museo De La Revolucion (worth a visit) and if you head left out of the entrance (I think), you go towards the nearby 'El Floridita' where Hemingway used to drink Daquiris - so that's the place to try one of those! I'm told the best place to try a Mojito is La Bodeguita Del Medio, where Hemingway drank them, just off from la Plaza De La Catedral, though I never went inside myself.
As for Varadero, I don't know that hotel you mention, we stayed in the 'Cuatro Palmas' which was right on the beach, couldn't have asked for a better hotel. I am going to send you a message (which can be longer than 500 characters!) that I sent to a friend of mine who asked for tips, I'll just edit out the irrelevant bits.
what are we in disagreement on? from your comments, i take it that you would be in support of a true communist society -- and I wholeheartly agree with you on that philosophy. the point that i am trying to make is that human nature always messes things up, so you can have the perfect society, but if humans aren't willing to make it work, it will NOT work.
And like I've said to you, Marxism is an economic theory, and you mention 'human nature' as though you were the first person to ever think of that, and have thus refuted the whole thing. Had you thought about it, you'd have realised perhaps there are counter-arguments about the social conditioning of human nature. It's not so much of a disagreement, more your unwillingess to take in what I've said to you.
The best forms of government combine the best qualities of all of the economic systems, usually to form a watered-down socialism, in which people are largely left alone in their private lives, strong labor unions keep the working class out of poverty, and strong but not overbearing regulation on business curbs the worst abuses while still leaving a reward for industriousness.
human nature -- jonny, messes things up, which is exactly why the world is so fucked up today. there will never be a perfect goverment on the planet and you know that. as long as humans have a tendancy to be greedy, to do wrong, to not put in as much effort as the other to make the society succeed -- we will always be in the same shit we are in my friend.
since you are recommend all of these works to me, let me do the same. read "socialism" by Ludwig von Mises.
Many young socialists (including Freidrich Hayek) have become capitalists after reading the superflous problems that exist within socialism/communism.
now then -- if humans weren't greedy, and we didn't have these stupid leaders like castro and lenin, then yes, communism in fact would be PERFECT. however, just like with everything in life, humans mess things up. that is one of the inherant problems with communism -- it overlooks human nature.
now then -- we can't simply say the hack-and-slash capitalist societies that exist are perfect either. if you know any history my friend, usually anarchy stemmed from capitalist societies. look at iceland -- it was capitalist during the period of the sages. one of the inherant problems of "human communism" is that it advocates a form of anarchy that cannot exist, very much contradictory. capitalism can exist without goverment and be a benefit it all of the people.
Anarchy stemmed from capitalism? Well no shit! Anyone who had studied anarchist or communist theory knows the material conditions of an industrialised society in high capitalism...
Anyway, this discussion is going nowhere, I'm off for now. Should you again want to exhibit your immense stupidity, I'll be back in 10 hours or so to respond. Ciao.
Also, learn something about human nature and the way it is socially constructed (any reputable anthropomorphist or sociologist will agree there is no universal 'human nature' which is built around an evolved survival instinct). Also, try anarchyfaq dot org - I believe they have something on human nature.
Oh, when I said "there is no universal 'human nature' which is built around an evolved survival instinct" I meant that it IS based around a survival instinct, which is an explanation for the way it differs in various societies. Actually, The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins makes quite a good point on what is commonly believed to be 'human nature', though I don't recall whether he addresses it as such.
the reason why communism doesn't work is because property rights aren't bring protected (which is why it leads to dictatorships.) the native americans didn't have cars or "property" so if they did operate under communism, it worked pretty well. property, instead of being protected by goverment, is being infringed by goverment.
you have one thing right my friend. communism is the complete absence of goverment -- yet there hasn't been a true communist country on the face of the planet. if anything -- some of the native aboriginal tribes operated under communism, and it worked pretty well. however, as long as you have people like castro, lenin, and stalin, there will never be true communism. everything is ruled by the people -- not some asinine leader.
Communism requires industrialised society, therefore aboriginies didn't operate under Communism - if anything it was some form of primitivism. Also they had hierarchical society, again, this is not Communist... when will you stop showing how ignorant and stupid you are?
you're the asinine one my friend to even consider that communism could work in a human society. that was marx's problem as well.
in the truest sense of the word, communism simply cannot exist. it is a very simple fallacy (that marx overlooked) that every one of the people will contribute to the society equally -- with no tendancy towards greed. in this situation -- who decides what is the fair division of property? the fair division of anything?
Indeed, but Marxism has changed hugely over the years, very few Marxists are dogmatic followers of ole' Karl. You haven't even got the intelligence to read Marx, it would be sheer torture for you to even contemplate reading the works of Antonio Negri or Gramsci! That's the great thing with economics/politics (as opposed to religion) - ideas are constantly evolving to fit the status quo.
are you drunk? the USSR has one of the worst economies on the face of the planet.
besides, you, my friend, are showing your stupidity and asinine reason by calling america "capitalist." if anything -- america is a neo-merchantilist country. in a true capitalist society, there would be no goverment handouts (plentiful in cuba) and america wouldn't have an imperial army.
The USSR managed to go from a backwards mostly agricultural nation with an 80% peasantry to a world superpower that survived easily whilst the rest of the world went through an economic depression. Whether you agree with the means by which this was achieved or not, it had a truly astounding economy when Stalin was in control.
communism is just that -- politics, a way to rule the people (or lack thereof.) just one of the millions of philosophical ideals of ruling the people and managing the market.
Well Communism is not a way to rule the people, it's a way for people to rule themselves, and there are many variations of it. Council Communism, Anarcho-Communism, Syndicalism etc. Your 'knowledge' of Communism is quite evidently taken from bastardised versions you have heard elsewhere, which you make obvious by references to governments, countries and leaders. Spare yourself the embarassment and either fuck off, or learn what it is you're actually talking about?
marx was too eager about natural tendancy of humans, if the people aren't giving a chance to excel and succeed -- you will not be able to tap in the best of that market.
and as i said to you before, please don't mix politics with the view of the cuban people! many cubans who live outside of the island bristle when people even mention castro or "state-capitalism." many cubans don't like to talk about the complex political climate that exists on the island.
please child, i could care less about politics. marx's theory is just one of the millions of theories and philosophies out there about how to effectively rule the people. his theory isn't right or wrong, good or bad, it's just not practical. it's one of those things that looks absolutely fine on paper, but doesn't work out well in practice.
Ok, describe to me in economic terms how Marxian theory of surplus labour is more inefficient than a free market economy, and explain to me, with reference to dialectical materialism, exactly why Marxism would not work in practice. These are central concepts to Marxism in all its variants; if you don't understand them then you don't understand Marxism, and thus cannot comment on its pragmatism or applicability. I eagerly await your response.
Also note that up until now, I've talked to you in a childish patronising manner with very basic definitions of Marxism, as I guessed you weren't exactly the brightest spark, yet you continue to persevere with your vague and unsourced criticisms of a theory you evidently don't understand. So now it's time to see if you actually know what it is you're talking about, or, if like most people, you believe what media companies tell you it is to serve their own interests... (I suspect the latter)
well, i am canadian not american so i am not subject to that mess......
the marxian theory of surplus labor doesn't work because his philosophy limits the freedom of the market, any "state-capitalist" goverment usually has a horrible economy and the only reason why cuba is basically functioning is because of canada. much of the infrastructure -- cars, bridges, and even the terminal of the airport you flew in, was financed by the canadian goverment.
Hahahahah what sort of an answer was this? Damn I thought you'd at least have the decency to Google it and pretend you knew! Your lack of effort disappoints me trd145!
Also, some state capitalists had an amazing economy, take the USSR for example. Sure, I don't support it, I'm merely pointing out the flaw in your childish generalisation.
Also, and I have mentioned this before, I do not support the Cuban government, nor do I support any other government! The reason I defend Cuba is because it is such an easy target for unintelligent people who don't understand Latin American politics, and who SOLELY target Cuba and not every other Latin American government, many of whom are far more corrupt, and whose citizens live in far direr conditions!
well, your "belief" on anything is purely subjective, so thus it is of little to no importance to me or anyone else. i am concerned about being practical -- and regardless of your views, any socalist/communist/state-capitalist (or whatever is the politically correct term) "goverment" has not done well -- and the collapse of the soviet union was a clear example of that. now -- if you want to complain capitalist goverments for that -- fine, that's your call.
Well my belief is a purely economic one based on efficiency of production and efficient usage and distribution of available resources, but I'm sure you're far too stupid to understand Marxian economics. Explaining surplus value to the likes of you would be a complete waste of time. If you're ever fortunate enough to evolve a brain, you ought to read 'Capital' by Marx.
And you still have no idea of what Communism is, even after I've explained it in very childish terms for you to (hopefully) comprehend! Communism is an international workers struggle for the proletariat to emancipate themselves, not something a small vanguard or authoritarian government achieves! Educate yourself, you gormless twat! I'm not asking you to agree with me, but at least mature your understanding of politics before you go embarrassing yourself by spouting such drivel!
wow, and i thought america was the only country with the free goverment handouts. well, since i am lazy, i might as well move to cuba to live off the goverment. taxi drivers make more money than lawyers/doctors (cuba IS communist after all....) no need to waste long hours studying, i'll get a free house no matter what!
Twens, I almost started a reply to your points then noticed you had put 'Cuba is communist' thereby demonstrating an utterly puerile and imbecilic knowledge of politics, as a state cannot be communist by its very definition. Please feel free to return when you're not a complete fucking moron, and no longer wish to embarass yourself :)
you're opinion jonny really doesn't matter. you portray cuba as such a great country yet thousands of cubans have paddled in shark-infested waters to make it to florida to leave castro's "goverment." have you been to miami? it's overrun by cubans who have fled the island.
And thousands more cross over armed borders from Mexico, a capitalist country... your point? Haha, you are aware of the American law on this, yes? Any Cuban that safely makes it to America is allowed to live there, I'm sure if this applied to Haiti or any other Latin American country, people would flee to America out of the third world. Also, many of the Cuban gusanos in Miami are the bourgeois landowners and factory owners, I hope many of them drowned :)
my apologies for using a politically incorrect term "communist goverment". if "state-capitalism" pleases you more, i will use it to avoid argument.
my problem isn't with castro, my problem is with you. all of the people who advocate socialist ideals are living nicely in capitalist countries. you're using a computer made by a capitalist company, and using a capitalist medium (youtube) to articulate your views. hypocritical much?
Well you clearly haven't read anything by Marx, Engels, Negri, etc. Not that I'm at all surprised, mind! My products were made by proletarians, and it is my belief that they ought to own the means with which they manufacture goods, and therefore reap the benefits of their work, and not their bourgeois employers, as is the current status quo in a FME.
Your proposed boycott of technology would be anarcho-primitivist, and not the result of a scientific Marxist analysis.
if you like cuba so much, why don't you hop on a flight from heathrow to havana to live there? i hate how people who advocate socialist/communist ideals have never lived a day under castro's goverment. castro himself has never lived under the goverment he imposes on his people. maybe i would take your comments into consideration if you actually lived under castro's goverment. your tourist video thus proves nothing.
Why does it bother you that communists have never lived under a state-capitalist regime? All the Communists I know would be arrested in Cuba (and most other countries) for subversive activity. Cuba is an easy target for the brainwashed multitude who believe everything the fucking TV tells them. When was the last time you complained on Youtube about human rights in Brazil, Haiti, Chile or Jamaica?
Capitalism kills millions every day, maybe you should target that for a bit, you braindead twat?
Put it to rest, Cuba has never done anything to the United States. We've tried to assassinate their president several times and even invade them, yet they've never attacked us. It's a beautiful country and it's much better off now than it was with Batista. Their cigars are awesome, their mojitos are sweet, and their women are beautiful, it can't be that bad of a place.
of course cuba has done nothing to the US. the u.s. just will not tolerate a communist country only a few miles from its shores....which is hypocritical since the soviet union was much closer to alaska than cuba is to florida. the great thing is that MY country - canada - has excellent relations with cuba (the best infact than any other cuban relation). hop on a flight from toronto to havana to see PARADISE.
Your knowledge of international politics is atrocious. There is no such thing as a Communist government or country/state/leader.
Cuba is state capitalist, it's not even in a transitional phase to communism, so it's not socialism.
Secondly, US foreign policy typically sees Latin America as an economic colony, and Cuba will not allow itself to follow the same path as other Latin American free-market nations where education and healthcare is at a low standard...
Thank you Europeans for supporting a tyrant. I can't believe that you would support a communist regime. You enjoy yourselves while the Cuban people are starving to death.
They're not starving to death - in fact, they're better off than their capitalist neighbours in the Caribbean, and capitalist nations in the rest of Latin America, Haiti being the worst. Furthermore, there is no such thing as a "communist regime" - communism is a STATELESS, CLASSLESS society in which the workers own the means of production. Cuba is therefore state capitalist. Stop embarassing yourself, you brainwashed yank.
Where are you from? If it is so great you idiot, why don't you go live in a communist country. Do you like to have no drive in life to accomplish anything because it is a classless society. Communism has been proven to not work, and one by one, commusist countries are fading away.
If you had bothered to read the comments on this video, you would have noticed that I have been through this numerous times with others who have also suffered at the hands of the US Education system. There can be no such thing as a "Communist Country" as that is, by definition, an oxymoron, as Communism is a STATELESS society. Get that into your defunct fucking mind, there is no STATE within a Communist society. Cuba, therefore, is not Communist.
Furthermore, any suffering the Cuban people have to endure is a direct result of US imperialistic Foreign policy, and their inability to make Cuba (like many other Latin American nations) an economic colony for cheap labour for American businesses, which is why so many people in Latin America starve on the streets (Brazil and Guatemala spring to mind). Not in Cuba, however. There, <b>EVERYBODY</b> has a home, free healthcare and education.
Visiting Cuba doesn't mean supporting a tyrant you idiot. And most people DON'T agree with the US embargo on Cuba. Maybe it just irritates you that the embargo doesn't have the desired effect and the only ppl losing out are Americans who wants to visit Cuba?? Guess what, US trade isn't the be all, end all!
I would like to bring to your attention jonny to a youtube video (YOUTUBE: CUBAN SANDWICH). This video is what I mean by the "real cuba". This video doesn't show the horrible "tourist" aspect of the island (which your havana/varadero video clearly failed to do), nor does it mix political banter with the view of the Cuban people (which you also failed to do by looking at your comments).
Therealdeal145, I think you'll find that the comments have little to do with the video, and I am merely responding to other people who want to bring up politics. Surely even someone of your diminished intellect can understand that?
Only a idiot would make such lousy video then have the nerves to put it on YouTube whats it matter your terrific grammar would not let afford a decent video camera?.
What? I know you're apparently giving up now, but if you ever do learn English, feel free to return and we'll speak :) My French is alright too, if you'd prefer that.
And it's not a video camera you moronic twat, it's a digital camera that happens to do video clips. Can't you read the description?
Actually, you probably can't lol! :D "Grama ish not everyfin coz i can take a motosycle enjun apart cos i am a speshial boy." Hahah, you thick piece of shit.
Ahippi, I'm a full-time student, you're probably right... what's your point? I'm not gonna spend a couple of hundred quid on a video camera, all I wanted was to take a few pictures and vid clips.
Do you have any idea how far England is from Cuba by the way...?
a bit too late = the world allready know the French are a piece of shit. lets see when was the last time you won a small battle "forget a war" . gutless piece of shit.
actually ahippi, "french" will be a very important word in my future discussions with jonny616, but I can't give you too much information right now, the cards have to be played one at a time....it was a crucial and beneficial statement when he told us about him and the UK.....i'm being shockingly discreet here
You're being a twat, the realdeal145, and are clearly making stuff up. Being born in the UK and learning average conversational French can hardly be formulated into an argument now, can it, you dumb fuck? :D
Thomas A. Edison, Jr. was born on January 10, 1876 to Edison's first wife, Mary Stilwell. Like most fathers of the Victorian era, Edison was not actively involved in the upbringing of his children.
But Edison's remoteness went even further than the typical father of the times, and his daily contact with his son was minimal. After Mary's death, when Tom Jr. was only 8, the younger Edison was largely raised by relatives while his father worked impossibly long hours. In his teenage years Tom Edison Junior lived in boarding schools, where he was a mediocre student with few friends
Why the fuck are you quoting a biography of Thomas Edison by By René Rondeau? If you're trying to prove to me you can indeed form an actual sentence recognised as being part of the English language, then copying from something I can easily Google is not the best option is it, you vapid twat?
i don't know why you consider "free healthcare" to be a goodthing jonny, it shows your ignorance and stupidity to assert it as a good fact against the USA.....if you think free healthcare is so good why don't you ask the canadians how they are dealing with it! YOUTUBE: TWO WOMEN (click on first video to see what "free healthcare is doing to people)
It's just a digital camera you retarded fuck, I took it to take pictures and the odd video clip, nothing more... evidently everyone but you has realised this. Perhaps that is because most other people actually have the intelligence and ability to read the Video Description, where I actually mention that? You dumb motherfucker.
Well any opinion on the standard of something is purely relative, which is why my assertions on the state of Cuba's healthcare are in comparison with one most people are familiar with -- the USA, and also because they are the greatest criticisers of the Cuban regime. The reason I even bring up the stats is because many people comment on the state of Cuba, so I like to point out that there are far worse free-market capitalist nations which are endorsed by the USA, yet remain immune from criticism
I am fully aware of what the title is, what were you trying to achieve in your puerile observation? The video *does* feature footage of Havana and Varadero, yes? So someone say, wanting to see the beach of Varadero or the main road on the peninsula would probably search 'varadero', right? Like I said, Havana is far more interesting, Varadero is a tourist haven for uncultured people, nothing more. Sure, it's beautiful, but it is not the REAL Cuba.
wow jonny, i can't believe you would consider the footage in your video to be the "real" cuba considering that native cubans aren't even allowed to visit the places shown on the tape.......
Wow yes, A+ for observation you puerile tit. Cubans aren't allowed to go around Old Havana, the capital of their nation. And as for the residential street in the video, woe betide any Cuban who goes there! And imagine what would happen if any Cuban dared step foot in Plaza Vieja or La Plaza De Armas. Damn, I have to say though, I saw a whole fucking load of Cuban-looking and sounding people, which is pretty amazing, considering they're not allowed in their own capital?
Seriously, think before you type, twens145. Havana, which I described as the "Real Cuba" is brimming with Cubans, you'd have to be a complete fucking moron or an American to think otherwise (the former is usually a predicate for the latter anyway.) Now fuck off and go back to listening to everything Fox News or CNN tells you, you gormless shit.
Haha, if I typed in such a manner on a regular basis I'd be ashamed to admit I was older than anyone I was talking to, as this only leads to unfulfilled expectations from others. I mean, given your age, I (wrongly) assumed you might be able to construct a reasonably articulate sentence. Had you claimed to be 10 or so, most likely I'd have just mildly patronized you and let you be the infantile cuntsack that you are, as at least that would have been a fairly acceptable reason.
HAHAHAHA... since when was constructing a BASIC coherent sentence a task worthy of effort? What do you mean "why should I bother?"
Haha, is it really that hard to spell correctly and put the odd comma here and there? See, being an intelligent and rational-minded human being, it comes naturally for me to write plainly and articulately - I feel genuine pity for you. I can't even begin to imagine what it must be like to be so lacking in basic intellect.
do you hold any patent? can you take a car or motorcyle engine apart? assemble it for racing ? . grammar alone dont cut it. can you assemble a circuit board? how bout a simple computer?.
What has this got to do with your inability to speak even mediocre English? That's going way off topic, are you somehow trying to justify your lack of a very basic skill by pointing out your other abilities? I know plenty of great technically-minded people, yet this doesn't infringe at all on their ability to type a reasonably simple sentence.
Also, please accept my sincere apologies for the usage of any words extending beyond three syllables, as I realise this may indeed pose something of a challenge to your embryonic brain. I understand that your whole life must be a steep and difficult uphill climb to attain even a level of intellectual mediocrity, but couldn't you at least try to pose as a rational human being now and then?
Embryonic, Adj. - "Pertaining to the earliest stage of development of an organism."
What in the name of fuck does that have to do with "Embryonic Journey from the jefferson airplanes"?
Hahaha, honestly, your blatant lack of intelligence of any kind is hilarious. And LMFAO - your favourite book is Mein Kampf? Have you ever even read that? Jesus Christ, I've never seen such awful prose in all my life, it's truly dire, to say the least.
yes you are right its a delusion that in capitalist society anyone can become what they want. And its a delusion too that in socialist countries there's no liberty. ¡Viva Fidel! aunque no les guste la palabra >viva< a los antisocialistas.
theres so many things that are good in cuba education, healthcare and above all no crime...but without free of expression and liberty theres nothing to live for.....everybody is entitle for a dream to become whatever they want with own ideas...in democratic countries if u work hard u can become whatever u want to be...but in cuba is brainwashing starting with che's and fidel picture all over the place..sorda like sadamm's reign
Ok, so you've never been to Cuba, as I can tell from this nonsense you have just spouted. In Cuba, I didn't see a single image or statue of Castro, and the only Che images were either on tourist merchandise, or the commemorative one on the side of the Ministry of The Interior (less ridiculous than say, Mt. Washington and other examples of American idolisation of the leadership, like 'Presidents Day'. I am assuming you consider America to be a "free country" which in itself is an oxymoron
The delusion you have that in capitalist society anyone can become what they want is just that, a complete and utter fabrication from the ruling class, to maintain the existing mode of production. If I was gay, black, openly atheist, muslim or Mexican, I would find it extremely difficult to succeed in the higher levels of American society, considerably more so than if I was a white Christian.
Sometime ago -, to therealdeal145 - in The Times (UK) I think it was, a journalist was asked where he would prefer to live: Cuba or Jamaica - can you guess the answer? I agree, it's Cuba, for I can cope without burger and coke ghettos!!!
Those who envy the USA use the Cuban people in their hateful monguering without regard to the fact that Cubans cannot enjoy what foreigners enjoy in Cuba, It is APARTHEID in its most virulent form.
Opportunists of the world, dump your hatred on the poor people of Cuba. Oppressed by a totalitarian regime and NOT the USA.
Wow, 18 years into my life and I finally get to meet the epitome of stupidity! Cubans have free healthcare, better infant mortality rates, far better unemployment rates and more doctors per person... a better standard of living than most working-class Americans. Also, the poverty Cuba suffers is mostly due to the United States embargo, so go fuck yourself you self-righteous twat.
your right and wrong at the same time, yes, cuba does have better benefits (healthcare, edu, etc.......) but the poverty in cuba isn't ONLY because of the embargo.....even with the embargo cuba is better off than haiti, the poorest country in the west. and THAT country has no embargo!
If you could actually construct something that at least resembled a coherent sentence, perhaps people would take you more seriously? The reason I didn't show much of Varadero is quite simply because there isn't much to see, Havana is far more interesting, so I used most of my card space in Havana.
Cuba has free healthcare and less people per doctor than the USA. If you're going to make ridiculous assertions, try backing them up, prick.
Theres nothing intresting about run down Havana . the incoherent part i agree . but i had two jerks "friends" messing with me here at the time so i was not paying attention to my writing.
Well you've obviously never been to Old Havana. It's absolutely amazing, though of course from a video you don't pick up the atmosphere and vibe of the place. Also, note that the video isn't solely filmed in run-down parts of Havana... your criticism is thus invalid. Furthermore, nobody is actually making you watch the video, if you don't like it, fine, don't watch it.
Yes Havana is amazing but its also crumbling to pieces . Many historical buildings have been lost. Havana was far more amazing in the 1950s when buildings had coats of paints from the best U.S made paint manufactures . and no im not that old to be from the old guard either just in case you are wondering.
you are right. many buildings in santiago de cuba and trinidad and cienfugos still have a beautiful coating but havana is "crumbling." hopefully has tourism booms more renovations will be in order.
Hey Ahippi, there's this really cool thing you should check out some time, should you ever wish to cease being a complete and utter imbecilic shitebag. It's called 'punctuation'.
even if i don't like castro - i give him respect for really being the only country to defy america and live to tell the tale, i want democracy for cuba, but i don't want america mistaking that for capitalism and putting bank of america atm machines all over the place like in communist china, besides, capitalism has proven to fail - the great depression anyone?
ok, sorry for my ignorance jonny, you're right, communist government is an oxymoron, the words contradict each other, i just wanted to know is communism is better than capitalism that's, one part of me is with castro in support of not allowing american business to capitalize the country, another part of me just says for the sake of the cuban people let there be a hooters on the malecon.....
what do you think is worse, communist goverments (cuba), or capitalist gov (america). hard to pick between the two. its like picking between bush and castro. can't decide.
castro was able to get cuban doctors to new orleans during katrina before bush could. and castro is the real enemy?
You cannot have a 'communist government' in the sense you are talking about, communism is inherently anti-state. There has never been, nor will there ever be, a "Communist Government" that rules over the rest of the people (unless you get into vanguardism, which is not a 'government' as such). Cuba's government is what you might consider 'state capitalist' as there is a state-controlled capitalist economy, limiting the freedom of the market.
the only good thing about the embargo jonny16 is that the dumb rich american businesses haven't "americanized" the entire place. trust me, after castro dies havana will become another miami beach with disney worlds, burger kings, bank of american atm machines, etc. (just like china!)
CUBA is the only REAL carribean island, corporate america hasn't been able to get their greedy hands into it (which is why americans like me love the island.)
Nice video. I was there in '06 for my honeymoon and were at alot of those places you showed on this video. Was very impressed on how beautiful the countyside looked and all the old classic vehicles they were driving. Thanks for this.
as a child of six, I witnessed Castro's militia entering my parent's house, checking the cupboards to see if you have any excess sugar or flour and actually taking it away? No matter what you say, la REVOLUCION SUCKS. Castro is a thief, a liar and a abusive son of a bitch. Surely you don't mean inferior language, right? You MUST mean your inferior use of a foreign language, right? Oh...thanks for posting the vid! :-)
Ottoelperro, it was so much worse under Batista, so the period of transition between these (namely 'La Revolucion') must indeed be a positive thing. Also, in a time of great shortage because of the embargo, why should anyone have excess foodstuff!? Not that your story has any truth in it. Oh and I definetly meant 'inferior language' - everyone knows English is the greatest language in the world, which is why practically everyone learns it :)
And just how long did you live under Batista's regime? Because I'm sure you speak from personal experience, right? Oh, you READ it in a book? Gee... You should be lucky you can READ the "greatest language in the world". Read my next comment for more on this. I just don't agree with you at all.
U.S. Department of Education found that 40 percent of the nation's 13-year olds and 16 percent of the 17-year-olds did not have intermediate reading skills (i.e., they could not find key information, link and compare ideas, or generalize, using materials in science, literature, or social studies). Only 5 percent of the 17-year-olds tested had advanced reading skills — the kind needed to understand complex ideas found in professional or technical journals and textbooks.
Here's the greatest language in the world: Seventy-three percent of second-graders, 55 percent of third-graders, 57 percent of fourth graders and 49 percent of fifth-graders are not reading on grade level, according to the test. Those are U.S. students, bud. Yeah; EVERYBODY is learning it!
What the hell? My point was, practically every nation in the world has English on their national curriculum, I thought that was fairly obvious - I apologise for estimating your intelligence as 'mediocre' - evidently this was a gross over-exaggeration on my part, and you have demonstrated your blatant inability to comprehend the most basic of points... what possessed you to quote statistics regarding the failings of the US education system, I don't even live in America?
I don't live in the US either, pendejo (you do know that one, right?) The teaching of english in southamerican schools is NOT as relevant as you might think. Yeah; you grossly do exagerate; YOURSELF. Move to Cuba, eh? THEN we can continue this conversation. Let me know when you sink your teeth on a nice steak. Grow up. Open your mind. Free yourself from prejudice. Fidel SUCKS. That's as far as I'm willing to open so don't even try it. Thanks.
Oh yes, you've ran out of uninteresting drivel to spout, so time to use the ad hominem attacks, and bring my age into it! If I were you, I'd be seriously lamenting the fact that my mother had chosen to give birth to me, as opposed to brutally aborting me with a coat-hanger; for not existing would surely be better than living your wretched life, where even achieveing mediocrity must be an uphill struggle. You should be embarrassed, 48 and you still believe everything you hear in the media. Haha!
And I genuinely have no idea why you brought my age into it; if anything, this simply highlights your own level of intelligence (or lack thereof) as it's palpably clear to anyone with a decent grasp of English (so not you then) that my knowledge extends far beyond anything you could ever hope to achieve -- it's not like it's difficult to simply repeat the drivel spout forth by the bourgeois media, it takes a certain level of intellect to conduct one's own research.
Oh, and apologies if I've used any words beyond your grade 3 level of understanding, please remember that Google is your friend, I'm sure words with an excess of 2 syllables shall no longer trouble you! Now kindly fuck off ;)
Datos del "Archivo Cubano" reconocido por Amnistia Internacional: 300.000 asesinados por Fidel Castro y su hermano. Ojala la justicia caiga sobre ese par de asesinos algun dia.
Las figuras inexactas, si usted supo algo acerca de relaciones internacionales, usted sabría que la Amnistía Internacional es MUY informal. ¿Y de todos modos, que cuida si Fidel mata a capitalistas que quieren explotar cubanos?
.. un hospital que no sea el CIMEQ que es el de los extrangeros y diplomaticos.El resto se asemejan a los barracones de los campos de exterminio nazi. Fidel Castro fuera de nuestra tierra y tu jonny616 ocupate de la tuya que los asuntos de cuba los resolveremos los cubanos de dentro y de fuera, mal que te pese calumniador.
Viva people!
ninaispravnikova 3 months ago
jo lenne egyszer eljutni ezekre a helyekre.
pmpm1940 10 months ago
@pmpm1940
Kuba gyonyoru,most jottem vissza,igazi paradicsom.
prosza 9 months ago
Im going to varadero in 3 weeks cant wait.
THESTAFFIECHANNEL 1 year ago
VIVA CUBA!
VIVA FIDEL!
VIVA CHE!
santabarbarafernand1 2 years ago 3
me quede anonadada hace mas de 30 anos que no veia la habana ni en foto,esta destruida.gracias a los castros que acabaron con ella.Van a pagar con sangre ellos y sus secuaces.
maricarmen790 2 years ago
Cuba Libre!!!!! Free Cuba!!!!! abajo fidel!!! abajo raul!!! abajo che!!!!! abajo con el communismo!!!! abajo con el socialismo!!!!
1984capitalism 2 years ago
Muy hermoso tu video,espero que la hayas pasado de maravilla,me siento un poco celosa porque,quisiera ser tu y estar en ese momento,ahi disfrutando de mi linda gente,y mi hermoso pais,a los que amo entranablemente,ysiempre permanecen en mi corazon,gracias por la puesta del video,muy bello todo,y varadero....es tan bella,que,cada vez que la veo,me quedo sin palabras!!!!
any2267 2 years ago
abajo con el communismo!!!!!abajo con el socialismo!!!!! Cuba Libre!!!!! Free Cuba!!!!! abajo fidel!!!!!
depotdollars 2 years ago
Do you listen to in flames in GB? Nice video! Thank you for uploading
Torrelamata 3 years ago
Yeah, they are reasonably popular here, though not as much as in Germany. Seen them 3 times here anyway, and again in April on a UK tour :D
Thanks for the comment.
jonny616 3 years ago
Que maravillosos recuerdos!! sueño con recorrer las calles de La Habana Vieja y volver a caminar por la orilla de esas playas paradisíscas. Ahhhh...
verolila 3 years ago
GOT IT!!!! Thanks chelisito41!!!
pinktree1980 4 years ago
Dear Pinktree1980 the song´s name is: "Hasta siempre Comandante Che Guevara" and the singer is "Nathalie Cardone" from Spain. You can get for free the "Lime Wire" program to download this song and much more Regards, Joelou Habana.
chelisito41 4 years ago
Thankyou vey much chelisito41 for replying!! I'll check it out now. x x
pinktree1980 4 years ago
Very nice video, congratulations. Everybody in Havana videos are using the same "Che Guevara" song, I do not know why because Cuban salsa, rumba or sones music are great too. Anyway thank you for the good images.
chelisito41 4 years ago
Who sinds this song?
pinktree1980 4 years ago
Sorry, I meant sings haha who sings this song?
pinktree1980 4 years ago
think you really caught the atmosphere of the place.... nice mix of sounds.. good work
antnhec 4 years ago
VIVA CUBA LIBRE .
alisregalado 4 years ago
If people go to Page 2 of the comments, they will see I have written that this is not a political messageboard but a video of sites in Havana.
The second I start to read something that sounds political, it is deleted, so people are genuinely wasting their time.
jonny616 4 years ago
viva cuba!
AntifasAlbo 4 years ago
good video even though the sound rips.
khakimental 4 years ago
I love Havana..going there in January for 5th time for 2 month:)
cubanjunky 4 years ago
Good video. I hope to go there in Febrary. Good luck.
Gianni - Italy
pancreatite 4 years ago
pretty good video, thanks, long time since i remember these streets, it has bring memories i needed to go on ^^, so i apreciate it a lot
to who ever talked about politics, its rather stupid to even mention it, so grow up, and dont be such an a******, leave BS to b***
neox10400 4 years ago
please stop speak about politics, Cuba is beautiful and I went 3 times thanks for the video
quimerapr 4 years ago
beautiful, interesting and very sad at the same time. thanks for posting this jonny
Bailaohu 4 years ago
Politics are rather stupid at this point when China owns us and we can`t take care of our own. Cuba is a beautiful place and everyone should visit given the oppertunity. Yes you will leave Cuba both sad and greatful. But, you will be happy while there and afterward.
oldphoque 4 years ago
Thanks for the video. I would like to see more.
DAH404 4 years ago
jonny........
spencermary32 4 years ago
No more political comments, I'm bored now. If you want to debate Marxism or any other economic theory then might I suggest a <b>political messageboard</b> and not a video of <b>holiday clips</b>... this seems somewhat obvious to me, though evidently some others haven't quite figured it out yet. Don't waste your time writing anything unrelated to the video, the comment will just be deleted.
jonny616 4 years ago
hi Jonny616 - Thanks ever so much for all that information - your a star!!!
And as for therealdeal145 - i agree with you - its about time he f**ked off and got a life hahaha!!
trampsass 4 years ago
Haha he won't be commenting anymore, he did but I deleted his comment and blocked him, there's only so much stupidity I can tolerate. Hope the info helps, send me a message or a comment when you get back telling me what you thought of Cuba! Hopefully I'll be going back in a year or two and will see somewhere else in Cuba, so if you have any recommendations, send em' my way.
jonny616 4 years ago
Abajo el comunismo, viva cuba libre!
4yall 4 years ago
what do you mean jonny? i was the one who told you what -- 100 comments ago -- to NOT mix politics with views of the cuban people or island. many native cubans bristle when politics is mixed in with the views of the cuban people. and as i told you -- look at the video YOUTUBE:"cuban sandwich" to see a REAL video of cuba -- not this tourist propoganda.
therealdeal145 4 years ago
Yeah, and who was the moron who started talking about politics? Where do you see politics in the video? Where did I invite people to talk about politics? Think about it (must be hard, I know) - had you not commented on my video regarding politics, would I have randomly started commenting on the state of Cuba's economy and social welfare? Furthermore, there is no such thing as 'tourist propaganda' you uneducated prick. Now please, fuck off.
jonny616 4 years ago
hey jonny616,
found your footage very interesting. just booked a holiday to go to the same places, so gave me a bit of an insight.
got any tips?? or piece of valuable advise??
sorry if this comment is not as challanging as the others!!
trampsass 4 years ago
Hahaha it's a relief to see somebody just make a nice normal comment that doesn't relate to international politics and Fidel Castro! :D
As for tips, there's not much to say, as whatever you choose to do you will find amazing, it's a place no video or picture can truly convey. In Havana, make sure you visit La Plaza de Armas and La Plaza Vieja - they're in Old Havana and they're lovely little squares, great to sit and have a cool drink. How long are you going for, and where will you be staying?
jonny616 4 years ago
we got a good package deal in nov for 3 nights in havana at NH parque Central (to hopfully party/drink lots mojitos!!??)and then 7 nights in varadero staying at Blau varadero.
do you recognice them?? please be honest,id rather be prepared if it not all good news!!!
was planning whilst at varadero - do a little side journey - hire a car and head to trinidad area for a night.sound feasable??
Thanks for your help - i will definatley check out those places you mentioned x
trampsass 4 years ago
Haha NH Parque Central is where we stayed in Havana, it's a nice hotel close to the Capitolio building and la Museo De La Revolucion (worth a visit) and if you head left out of the entrance (I think), you go towards the nearby 'El Floridita' where Hemingway used to drink Daquiris - so that's the place to try one of those! I'm told the best place to try a Mojito is La Bodeguita Del Medio, where Hemingway drank them, just off from la Plaza De La Catedral, though I never went inside myself.
jonny616 4 years ago
As for Varadero, I don't know that hotel you mention, we stayed in the 'Cuatro Palmas' which was right on the beach, couldn't have asked for a better hotel. I am going to send you a message (which can be longer than 500 characters!) that I sent to a friend of mine who asked for tips, I'll just edit out the irrelevant bits.
jonny616 4 years ago
what are we in disagreement on? from your comments, i take it that you would be in support of a true communist society -- and I wholeheartly agree with you on that philosophy. the point that i am trying to make is that human nature always messes things up, so you can have the perfect society, but if humans aren't willing to make it work, it will NOT work.
therealdeal145 4 years ago
And like I've said to you, Marxism is an economic theory, and you mention 'human nature' as though you were the first person to ever think of that, and have thus refuted the whole thing. Had you thought about it, you'd have realised perhaps there are counter-arguments about the social conditioning of human nature. It's not so much of a disagreement, more your unwillingess to take in what I've said to you.
jonny616 4 years ago
The best forms of government combine the best qualities of all of the economic systems, usually to form a watered-down socialism, in which people are largely left alone in their private lives, strong labor unions keep the working class out of poverty, and strong but not overbearing regulation on business curbs the worst abuses while still leaving a reward for industriousness.
therealdeal145 4 years ago
This isn't going anywhere, we'll have to agree to disagree.
jonny616 4 years ago
human nature -- jonny, messes things up, which is exactly why the world is so fucked up today. there will never be a perfect goverment on the planet and you know that. as long as humans have a tendancy to be greedy, to do wrong, to not put in as much effort as the other to make the society succeed -- we will always be in the same shit we are in my friend.
therealdeal145 4 years ago
since you are recommend all of these works to me, let me do the same. read "socialism" by Ludwig von Mises.
Many young socialists (including Freidrich Hayek) have become capitalists after reading the superflous problems that exist within socialism/communism.
therealdeal145 4 years ago
now then -- if humans weren't greedy, and we didn't have these stupid leaders like castro and lenin, then yes, communism in fact would be PERFECT. however, just like with everything in life, humans mess things up. that is one of the inherant problems with communism -- it overlooks human nature.
therealdeal145 4 years ago
now then -- we can't simply say the hack-and-slash capitalist societies that exist are perfect either. if you know any history my friend, usually anarchy stemmed from capitalist societies. look at iceland -- it was capitalist during the period of the sages. one of the inherant problems of "human communism" is that it advocates a form of anarchy that cannot exist, very much contradictory. capitalism can exist without goverment and be a benefit it all of the people.
therealdeal145 4 years ago
Anarchy stemmed from capitalism? Well no shit! Anyone who had studied anarchist or communist theory knows the material conditions of an industrialised society in high capitalism...
Anyway, this discussion is going nowhere, I'm off for now. Should you again want to exhibit your immense stupidity, I'll be back in 10 hours or so to respond. Ciao.
jonny616 4 years ago
Read Das Kapital volume 2.
Also, learn something about human nature and the way it is socially constructed (any reputable anthropomorphist or sociologist will agree there is no universal 'human nature' which is built around an evolved survival instinct). Also, try anarchyfaq dot org - I believe they have something on human nature.
jonny616 4 years ago
Oh, when I said "there is no universal 'human nature' which is built around an evolved survival instinct" I meant that it IS based around a survival instinct, which is an explanation for the way it differs in various societies. Actually, The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins makes quite a good point on what is commonly believed to be 'human nature', though I don't recall whether he addresses it as such.
jonny616 4 years ago
the reason why communism doesn't work is because property rights aren't bring protected (which is why it leads to dictatorships.) the native americans didn't have cars or "property" so if they did operate under communism, it worked pretty well. property, instead of being protected by goverment, is being infringed by goverment.
therealdeal145 4 years ago
you have one thing right my friend. communism is the complete absence of goverment -- yet there hasn't been a true communist country on the face of the planet. if anything -- some of the native aboriginal tribes operated under communism, and it worked pretty well. however, as long as you have people like castro, lenin, and stalin, there will never be true communism. everything is ruled by the people -- not some asinine leader.
therealdeal145 4 years ago
Communism requires industrialised society, therefore aboriginies didn't operate under Communism - if anything it was some form of primitivism. Also they had hierarchical society, again, this is not Communist... when will you stop showing how ignorant and stupid you are?
jonny616 4 years ago
you're the asinine one my friend to even consider that communism could work in a human society. that was marx's problem as well.
in the truest sense of the word, communism simply cannot exist. it is a very simple fallacy (that marx overlooked) that every one of the people will contribute to the society equally -- with no tendancy towards greed. in this situation -- who decides what is the fair division of property? the fair division of anything?
therealdeal145 4 years ago
Indeed, but Marxism has changed hugely over the years, very few Marxists are dogmatic followers of ole' Karl. You haven't even got the intelligence to read Marx, it would be sheer torture for you to even contemplate reading the works of Antonio Negri or Gramsci! That's the great thing with economics/politics (as opposed to religion) - ideas are constantly evolving to fit the status quo.
jonny616 4 years ago
"the USSR - great economy"
are you drunk? the USSR has one of the worst economies on the face of the planet.
besides, you, my friend, are showing your stupidity and asinine reason by calling america "capitalist." if anything -- america is a neo-merchantilist country. in a true capitalist society, there would be no goverment handouts (plentiful in cuba) and america wouldn't have an imperial army.
therealdeal145 4 years ago
The USSR managed to go from a backwards mostly agricultural nation with an 80% peasantry to a world superpower that survived easily whilst the rest of the world went through an economic depression. Whether you agree with the means by which this was achieved or not, it had a truly astounding economy when Stalin was in control.
jonny616 4 years ago
communism is just that -- politics, a way to rule the people (or lack thereof.) just one of the millions of philosophical ideals of ruling the people and managing the market.
therealdeal145 4 years ago
Well Communism is not a way to rule the people, it's a way for people to rule themselves, and there are many variations of it. Council Communism, Anarcho-Communism, Syndicalism etc. Your 'knowledge' of Communism is quite evidently taken from bastardised versions you have heard elsewhere, which you make obvious by references to governments, countries and leaders. Spare yourself the embarassment and either fuck off, or learn what it is you're actually talking about?
jonny616 4 years ago
marx was too eager about natural tendancy of humans, if the people aren't giving a chance to excel and succeed -- you will not be able to tap in the best of that market.
therealdeal145 4 years ago
and as i said to you before, please don't mix politics with the view of the cuban people! many cubans who live outside of the island bristle when people even mention castro or "state-capitalism." many cubans don't like to talk about the complex political climate that exists on the island.
therealdeal145 4 years ago
please child, i could care less about politics. marx's theory is just one of the millions of theories and philosophies out there about how to effectively rule the people. his theory isn't right or wrong, good or bad, it's just not practical. it's one of those things that looks absolutely fine on paper, but doesn't work out well in practice.
therealdeal145 4 years ago
Ok, describe to me in economic terms how Marxian theory of surplus labour is more inefficient than a free market economy, and explain to me, with reference to dialectical materialism, exactly why Marxism would not work in practice. These are central concepts to Marxism in all its variants; if you don't understand them then you don't understand Marxism, and thus cannot comment on its pragmatism or applicability. I eagerly await your response.
jonny616 4 years ago
Also note that up until now, I've talked to you in a childish patronising manner with very basic definitions of Marxism, as I guessed you weren't exactly the brightest spark, yet you continue to persevere with your vague and unsourced criticisms of a theory you evidently don't understand. So now it's time to see if you actually know what it is you're talking about, or, if like most people, you believe what media companies tell you it is to serve their own interests... (I suspect the latter)
jonny616 4 years ago
well, i am canadian not american so i am not subject to that mess......
the marxian theory of surplus labor doesn't work because his philosophy limits the freedom of the market, any "state-capitalist" goverment usually has a horrible economy and the only reason why cuba is basically functioning is because of canada. much of the infrastructure -- cars, bridges, and even the terminal of the airport you flew in, was financed by the canadian goverment.
therealdeal145 4 years ago
Hahahahah what sort of an answer was this? Damn I thought you'd at least have the decency to Google it and pretend you knew! Your lack of effort disappoints me trd145!
Also, some state capitalists had an amazing economy, take the USSR for example. Sure, I don't support it, I'm merely pointing out the flaw in your childish generalisation.
jonny616 4 years ago
Also, and I have mentioned this before, I do not support the Cuban government, nor do I support any other government! The reason I defend Cuba is because it is such an easy target for unintelligent people who don't understand Latin American politics, and who SOLELY target Cuba and not every other Latin American government, many of whom are far more corrupt, and whose citizens live in far direr conditions!
jonny616 4 years ago
well, your "belief" on anything is purely subjective, so thus it is of little to no importance to me or anyone else. i am concerned about being practical -- and regardless of your views, any socalist/communist/state-capitalist (or whatever is the politically correct term) "goverment" has not done well -- and the collapse of the soviet union was a clear example of that. now -- if you want to complain capitalist goverments for that -- fine, that's your call.
therealdeal145 4 years ago
Well my belief is a purely economic one based on efficiency of production and efficient usage and distribution of available resources, but I'm sure you're far too stupid to understand Marxian economics. Explaining surplus value to the likes of you would be a complete waste of time. If you're ever fortunate enough to evolve a brain, you ought to read 'Capital' by Marx.
jonny616 4 years ago
And you still have no idea of what Communism is, even after I've explained it in very childish terms for you to (hopefully) comprehend! Communism is an international workers struggle for the proletariat to emancipate themselves, not something a small vanguard or authoritarian government achieves! Educate yourself, you gormless twat! I'm not asking you to agree with me, but at least mature your understanding of politics before you go embarrassing yourself by spouting such drivel!
jonny616 4 years ago
"free home, free healthcare, free education"
wow, and i thought america was the only country with the free goverment handouts. well, since i am lazy, i might as well move to cuba to live off the goverment. taxi drivers make more money than lawyers/doctors (cuba IS communist after all....) no need to waste long hours studying, i'll get a free house no matter what!
twens145 4 years ago
Twens, I almost started a reply to your points then noticed you had put 'Cuba is communist' thereby demonstrating an utterly puerile and imbecilic knowledge of politics, as a state cannot be communist by its very definition. Please feel free to return when you're not a complete fucking moron, and no longer wish to embarass yourself :)
jonny616 4 years ago
you're opinion jonny really doesn't matter. you portray cuba as such a great country yet thousands of cubans have paddled in shark-infested waters to make it to florida to leave castro's "goverment." have you been to miami? it's overrun by cubans who have fled the island.
therealdeal145 4 years ago
And thousands more cross over armed borders from Mexico, a capitalist country... your point? Haha, you are aware of the American law on this, yes? Any Cuban that safely makes it to America is allowed to live there, I'm sure if this applied to Haiti or any other Latin American country, people would flee to America out of the third world. Also, many of the Cuban gusanos in Miami are the bourgeois landowners and factory owners, I hope many of them drowned :)
jonny616 4 years ago
my apologies for using a politically incorrect term "communist goverment". if "state-capitalism" pleases you more, i will use it to avoid argument.
my problem isn't with castro, my problem is with you. all of the people who advocate socialist ideals are living nicely in capitalist countries. you're using a computer made by a capitalist company, and using a capitalist medium (youtube) to articulate your views. hypocritical much?
therealdeal145 4 years ago
Well you clearly haven't read anything by Marx, Engels, Negri, etc. Not that I'm at all surprised, mind! My products were made by proletarians, and it is my belief that they ought to own the means with which they manufacture goods, and therefore reap the benefits of their work, and not their bourgeois employers, as is the current status quo in a FME.
Your proposed boycott of technology would be anarcho-primitivist, and not the result of a scientific Marxist analysis.
jonny616 4 years ago
if you like cuba so much, why don't you hop on a flight from heathrow to havana to live there? i hate how people who advocate socialist/communist ideals have never lived a day under castro's goverment. castro himself has never lived under the goverment he imposes on his people. maybe i would take your comments into consideration if you actually lived under castro's goverment. your tourist video thus proves nothing.
therealdeal145 4 years ago
Why does it bother you that communists have never lived under a state-capitalist regime? All the Communists I know would be arrested in Cuba (and most other countries) for subversive activity. Cuba is an easy target for the brainwashed multitude who believe everything the fucking TV tells them. When was the last time you complained on Youtube about human rights in Brazil, Haiti, Chile or Jamaica?
Capitalism kills millions every day, maybe you should target that for a bit, you braindead twat?
jonny616 4 years ago
Put it to rest, Cuba has never done anything to the United States. We've tried to assassinate their president several times and even invade them, yet they've never attacked us. It's a beautiful country and it's much better off now than it was with Batista. Their cigars are awesome, their mojitos are sweet, and their women are beautiful, it can't be that bad of a place.
hannerhooligan 4 years ago
of course cuba has done nothing to the US. the u.s. just will not tolerate a communist country only a few miles from its shores....which is hypocritical since the soviet union was much closer to alaska than cuba is to florida. the great thing is that MY country - canada - has excellent relations with cuba (the best infact than any other cuban relation). hop on a flight from toronto to havana to see PARADISE.
therealdeal145 4 years ago
Your knowledge of international politics is atrocious. There is no such thing as a Communist government or country/state/leader.
Cuba is state capitalist, it's not even in a transitional phase to communism, so it's not socialism.
Secondly, US foreign policy typically sees Latin America as an economic colony, and Cuba will not allow itself to follow the same path as other Latin American free-market nations where education and healthcare is at a low standard...
jonny616 4 years ago
Thank you Europeans for supporting a tyrant. I can't believe that you would support a communist regime. You enjoy yourselves while the Cuban people are starving to death.
sailfish024 4 years ago
They're not starving to death - in fact, they're better off than their capitalist neighbours in the Caribbean, and capitalist nations in the rest of Latin America, Haiti being the worst. Furthermore, there is no such thing as a "communist regime" - communism is a STATELESS, CLASSLESS society in which the workers own the means of production. Cuba is therefore state capitalist. Stop embarassing yourself, you brainwashed yank.
jonny616 4 years ago
Where are you from? If it is so great you idiot, why don't you go live in a communist country. Do you like to have no drive in life to accomplish anything because it is a classless society. Communism has been proven to not work, and one by one, commusist countries are fading away.
sailfish024 4 years ago
If you had bothered to read the comments on this video, you would have noticed that I have been through this numerous times with others who have also suffered at the hands of the US Education system. There can be no such thing as a "Communist Country" as that is, by definition, an oxymoron, as Communism is a STATELESS society. Get that into your defunct fucking mind, there is no STATE within a Communist society. Cuba, therefore, is not Communist.
jonny616 4 years ago
Furthermore, any suffering the Cuban people have to endure is a direct result of US imperialistic Foreign policy, and their inability to make Cuba (like many other Latin American nations) an economic colony for cheap labour for American businesses, which is why so many people in Latin America starve on the streets (Brazil and Guatemala spring to mind). Not in Cuba, however. There, <b>EVERYBODY</b> has a home, free healthcare and education.
jonny616 4 years ago
Visiting Cuba doesn't mean supporting a tyrant you idiot. And most people DON'T agree with the US embargo on Cuba. Maybe it just irritates you that the embargo doesn't have the desired effect and the only ppl losing out are Americans who wants to visit Cuba?? Guess what, US trade isn't the be all, end all!
zammie01 4 years ago
thx for the impression, we're going the the day after tomorrow!
flopsje 4 years ago
I would like to bring to your attention jonny to a youtube video (YOUTUBE: CUBAN SANDWICH). This video is what I mean by the "real cuba". This video doesn't show the horrible "tourist" aspect of the island (which your havana/varadero video clearly failed to do), nor does it mix political banter with the view of the Cuban people (which you also failed to do by looking at your comments).
therealdeal145 4 years ago
Therealdeal145, I think you'll find that the comments have little to do with the video, and I am merely responding to other people who want to bring up politics. Surely even someone of your diminished intellect can understand that?
jonny616 4 years ago
Only a idiot would make such lousy video then have the nerves to put it on YouTube whats it matter your terrific grammar would not let afford a decent video camera?.
Ahippi 4 years ago
What? I know you're apparently giving up now, but if you ever do learn English, feel free to return and we'll speak :) My French is alright too, if you'd prefer that.
And it's not a video camera you moronic twat, it's a digital camera that happens to do video clips. Can't you read the description?
Actually, you probably can't lol! :D "Grama ish not everyfin coz i can take a motosycle enjun apart cos i am a speshial boy." Hahah, you thick piece of shit.
jonny616 4 years ago
no is not a video camera becouse you cant afford one!.
Ahippi 4 years ago
Ahippi, I'm a full-time student, you're probably right... what's your point? I'm not gonna spend a couple of hundred quid on a video camera, all I wanted was to take a few pictures and vid clips.
Do you have any idea how far England is from Cuba by the way...?
jonny616 4 years ago
That explains it all a British scum.
Ahippi 4 years ago
Haha explains what? Being able to type well? I think you're just jealous because you're a brainwashed moronic fuck :D
jonny616 4 years ago
a bit too late = the world allready know the French are a piece of shit. lets see when was the last time you won a small battle "forget a war" . gutless piece of shit.
Ahippi 4 years ago
actually ahippi, "french" will be a very important word in my future discussions with jonny616, but I can't give you too much information right now, the cards have to be played one at a time....it was a crucial and beneficial statement when he told us about him and the UK.....i'm being shockingly discreet here
therealdeal145 4 years ago
You're being a twat, the realdeal145, and are clearly making stuff up. Being born in the UK and learning average conversational French can hardly be formulated into an argument now, can it, you dumb fuck? :D
jonny616 4 years ago
HAHA. The last time I won a small battle? What? :D
If you're trying to go for the childish 'French = Surrendering type' argument, then it won't work, I'm not French.
Also, why do you claim to be giving up, and then keep posting? You really are a fucking cretin aren't you?
jonny616 4 years ago
Im done with you.
Ahippi 4 years ago
Thomas A. Edison, Jr. was born on January 10, 1876 to Edison's first wife, Mary Stilwell. Like most fathers of the Victorian era, Edison was not actively involved in the upbringing of his children.
Ahippi 4 years ago
But Edison's remoteness went even further than the typical father of the times, and his daily contact with his son was minimal. After Mary's death, when Tom Jr. was only 8, the younger Edison was largely raised by relatives while his father worked impossibly long hours. In his teenage years Tom Edison Junior lived in boarding schools, where he was a mediocre student with few friends
Ahippi 4 years ago
Why the fuck are you quoting a biography of Thomas Edison by By René Rondeau? If you're trying to prove to me you can indeed form an actual sentence recognised as being part of the English language, then copying from something I can easily Google is not the best option is it, you vapid twat?
jonny616 4 years ago
no is just the grammar dont make YOU any smarter.
Ahippi 4 years ago
i don't know why you consider "free healthcare" to be a goodthing jonny, it shows your ignorance and stupidity to assert it as a good fact against the USA.....if you think free healthcare is so good why don't you ask the canadians how they are dealing with it! YOUTUBE: TWO WOMEN (click on first video to see what "free healthcare is doing to people)
therealdeal145 4 years ago
is santiago de cuba a good city to explore in cuba? or is it another "varadero for uncultured people?"
therealdeal145 4 years ago
crapy video camera and crapy videoting of Varadero. Next time take a decent camera!
Ahippi 4 years ago
It's just a digital camera you retarded fuck, I took it to take pictures and the odd video clip, nothing more... evidently everyone but you has realised this. Perhaps that is because most other people actually have the intelligence and ability to read the Video Description, where I actually mention that? You dumb motherfucker.
jonny616 4 years ago
The dumb motherfucker is you who think cubans have great health care when hospitals runs like those beat up chevys from the 1950s.
Ahippi 4 years ago
Well any opinion on the standard of something is purely relative, which is why my assertions on the state of Cuba's healthcare are in comparison with one most people are familiar with -- the USA, and also because they are the greatest criticisers of the Cuban regime. The reason I even bring up the stats is because many people comment on the state of Cuba, so I like to point out that there are far worse free-market capitalist nations which are endorsed by the USA, yet remain immune from criticism
jonny616 4 years ago
Title = Cuba - Video Footage of Havana & Varadero
Ahippi 4 years ago
I am fully aware of what the title is, what were you trying to achieve in your puerile observation? The video *does* feature footage of Havana and Varadero, yes? So someone say, wanting to see the beach of Varadero or the main road on the peninsula would probably search 'varadero', right? Like I said, Havana is far more interesting, Varadero is a tourist haven for uncultured people, nothing more. Sure, it's beautiful, but it is not the REAL Cuba.
jonny616 4 years ago
Im cuban i been in the USA since 1968 . I agree with your culture comments . But what is the real Cuba ?
Ahippi 4 years ago
wow jonny, i can't believe you would consider the footage in your video to be the "real" cuba considering that native cubans aren't even allowed to visit the places shown on the tape.......
twens145 4 years ago
Wow yes, A+ for observation you puerile tit. Cubans aren't allowed to go around Old Havana, the capital of their nation. And as for the residential street in the video, woe betide any Cuban who goes there! And imagine what would happen if any Cuban dared step foot in Plaza Vieja or La Plaza De Armas. Damn, I have to say though, I saw a whole fucking load of Cuban-looking and sounding people, which is pretty amazing, considering they're not allowed in their own capital?
jonny616 4 years ago
Seriously, think before you type, twens145. Havana, which I described as the "Real Cuba" is brimming with Cubans, you'd have to be a complete fucking moron or an American to think otherwise (the former is usually a predicate for the latter anyway.) Now fuck off and go back to listening to everything Fox News or CNN tells you, you gormless shit.
jonny616 4 years ago
lisen stupid mother fucker i was there before you even thought about having pubes.
Ahippi 4 years ago
Haha, if I typed in such a manner on a regular basis I'd be ashamed to admit I was older than anyone I was talking to, as this only leads to unfulfilled expectations from others. I mean, given your age, I (wrongly) assumed you might be able to construct a reasonably articulate sentence. Had you claimed to be 10 or so, most likely I'd have just mildly patronized you and let you be the infantile cuntsack that you are, as at least that would have been a fairly acceptable reason.
jonny616 4 years ago
why should i bother to articulate with a idiot?
Ahippi 4 years ago
HAHAHAHA... since when was constructing a BASIC coherent sentence a task worthy of effort? What do you mean "why should I bother?"
Haha, is it really that hard to spell correctly and put the odd comma here and there? See, being an intelligent and rational-minded human being, it comes naturally for me to write plainly and articulately - I feel genuine pity for you. I can't even begin to imagine what it must be like to be so lacking in basic intellect.
jonny616 4 years ago
basics? darling you dont even come near. only a asshole would kiss you know who.
Ahippi 4 years ago
When a word begins with a vowel, the word prior to it that you're looking for is 'AN' - not 'A'.
Jesus fucking Christ, I learnt that when I was 4, yet you continue to make this mistake.
jonny616 4 years ago
do you hold any patent? can you take a car or motorcyle engine apart? assemble it for racing ? . grammar alone dont cut it. can you assemble a circuit board? how bout a simple computer?.
Ahippi 4 years ago
What has this got to do with your inability to speak even mediocre English? That's going way off topic, are you somehow trying to justify your lack of a very basic skill by pointing out your other abilities? I know plenty of great technically-minded people, yet this doesn't infringe at all on their ability to type a reasonably simple sentence.
jonny616 4 years ago
sorry you did not response to my question so i figure you are a idiot . i was sure from the start. Im not new to this type of head game.
Ahippi 4 years ago
Also, please accept my sincere apologies for the usage of any words extending beyond three syllables, as I realise this may indeed pose something of a challenge to your embryonic brain. I understand that your whole life must be a steep and difficult uphill climb to attain even a level of intellectual mediocrity, but couldn't you at least try to pose as a rational human being now and then?
jonny616 4 years ago
Im sorry but words like Embryonic Journey from the jefferson airplanes dont impress me a bit.
Ahippi 4 years ago
Erm. What?
Embryonic, Adj. - "Pertaining to the earliest stage of development of an organism."
What in the name of fuck does that have to do with "Embryonic Journey from the jefferson airplanes"?
Hahaha, honestly, your blatant lack of intelligence of any kind is hilarious. And LMFAO - your favourite book is Mein Kampf? Have you ever even read that? Jesus Christ, I've never seen such awful prose in all my life, it's truly dire, to say the least.
jonny616 4 years ago
yes you are right its a delusion that in capitalist society anyone can become what they want. And its a delusion too that in socialist countries there's no liberty. ¡Viva Fidel! aunque no les guste la palabra >viva< a los antisocialistas.
gregorioper 4 years ago
theres so many things that are good in cuba education, healthcare and above all no crime...but without free of expression and liberty theres nothing to live for.....everybody is entitle for a dream to become whatever they want with own ideas...in democratic countries if u work hard u can become whatever u want to be...but in cuba is brainwashing starting with che's and fidel picture all over the place..sorda like sadamm's reign
kmml1972 4 years ago
Ok, so you've never been to Cuba, as I can tell from this nonsense you have just spouted. In Cuba, I didn't see a single image or statue of Castro, and the only Che images were either on tourist merchandise, or the commemorative one on the side of the Ministry of The Interior (less ridiculous than say, Mt. Washington and other examples of American idolisation of the leadership, like 'Presidents Day'. I am assuming you consider America to be a "free country" which in itself is an oxymoron
jonny616 4 years ago
...as a state is inherently oppressive.
The delusion you have that in capitalist society anyone can become what they want is just that, a complete and utter fabrication from the ruling class, to maintain the existing mode of production. If I was gay, black, openly atheist, muslim or Mexican, I would find it extremely difficult to succeed in the higher levels of American society, considerably more so than if I was a white Christian.
jonny616 4 years ago
a white MALE christian.........
therealdeal145 4 years ago
Sometime ago -, to therealdeal145 - in The Times (UK) I think it was, a journalist was asked where he would prefer to live: Cuba or Jamaica - can you guess the answer? I agree, it's Cuba, for I can cope without burger and coke ghettos!!!
Zizi4711 4 years ago
Those who envy the USA use the Cuban people in their hateful monguering without regard to the fact that Cubans cannot enjoy what foreigners enjoy in Cuba, It is APARTHEID in its most virulent form.
Opportunists of the world, dump your hatred on the poor people of Cuba. Oppressed by a totalitarian regime and NOT the USA.
ifiterre 4 years ago
Wow, 18 years into my life and I finally get to meet the epitome of stupidity! Cubans have free healthcare, better infant mortality rates, far better unemployment rates and more doctors per person... a better standard of living than most working-class Americans. Also, the poverty Cuba suffers is mostly due to the United States embargo, so go fuck yourself you self-righteous twat.
jonny616 4 years ago
how many times have you been to la habana? are you cuban yourself?
therealdeal145 4 years ago
your right and wrong at the same time, yes, cuba does have better benefits (healthcare, edu, etc.......) but the poverty in cuba isn't ONLY because of the embargo.....even with the embargo cuba is better off than haiti, the poorest country in the west. and THAT country has no embargo!
twens145 4 years ago
Get a real life they dont even have aspirins but the turist dont lack anything! . Thats why you did not show the real glamor part of Varadero Beach.
Ahippi 4 years ago
If you could actually construct something that at least resembled a coherent sentence, perhaps people would take you more seriously? The reason I didn't show much of Varadero is quite simply because there isn't much to see, Havana is far more interesting, so I used most of my card space in Havana.
Cuba has free healthcare and less people per doctor than the USA. If you're going to make ridiculous assertions, try backing them up, prick.
jonny616 4 years ago
Theres nothing intresting about run down Havana . the incoherent part i agree . but i had two jerks "friends" messing with me here at the time so i was not paying attention to my writing.
Ahippi 4 years ago
Well you've obviously never been to Old Havana. It's absolutely amazing, though of course from a video you don't pick up the atmosphere and vibe of the place. Also, note that the video isn't solely filmed in run-down parts of Havana... your criticism is thus invalid. Furthermore, nobody is actually making you watch the video, if you don't like it, fine, don't watch it.
jonny616 4 years ago
Yes Havana is amazing but its also crumbling to pieces . Many historical buildings have been lost. Havana was far more amazing in the 1950s when buildings had coats of paints from the best U.S made paint manufactures . and no im not that old to be from the old guard either just in case you are wondering.
Ahippi 4 years ago
you are right. many buildings in santiago de cuba and trinidad and cienfugos still have a beautiful coating but havana is "crumbling." hopefully has tourism booms more renovations will be in order.
therealdeal145 4 years ago
they have and well continiue to crumble Castro elite class dont care.
Ahippi 4 years ago
Hey Ahippi, there's this really cool thing you should check out some time, should you ever wish to cease being a complete and utter imbecilic shitebag. It's called 'punctuation'.
jonny616 4 years ago
fuck punctuation i got put up with that stupid noise.
Ahippi 4 years ago
even if i don't like castro - i give him respect for really being the only country to defy america and live to tell the tale, i want democracy for cuba, but i don't want america mistaking that for capitalism and putting bank of america atm machines all over the place like in communist china, besides, capitalism has proven to fail - the great depression anyone?
therealdeal145 4 years ago
ok, sorry for my ignorance jonny, you're right, communist government is an oxymoron, the words contradict each other, i just wanted to know is communism is better than capitalism that's, one part of me is with castro in support of not allowing american business to capitalize the country, another part of me just says for the sake of the cuban people let there be a hooters on the malecon.....
therealdeal145 4 years ago
what do you think is worse, communist goverments (cuba), or capitalist gov (america). hard to pick between the two. its like picking between bush and castro. can't decide.
castro was able to get cuban doctors to new orleans during katrina before bush could. and castro is the real enemy?
therealdeal145 4 years ago
You cannot have a 'communist government' in the sense you are talking about, communism is inherently anti-state. There has never been, nor will there ever be, a "Communist Government" that rules over the rest of the people (unless you get into vanguardism, which is not a 'government' as such). Cuba's government is what you might consider 'state capitalist' as there is a state-controlled capitalist economy, limiting the freedom of the market.
jonny616 4 years ago
at least all the cubans own the houses they live in, can't say that about america. im sure the rich cubans in miami don't like that!
therealdeal145 4 years ago
the only good thing about the embargo jonny16 is that the dumb rich american businesses haven't "americanized" the entire place. trust me, after castro dies havana will become another miami beach with disney worlds, burger kings, bank of american atm machines, etc. (just like china!)
CUBA is the only REAL carribean island, corporate america hasn't been able to get their greedy hands into it (which is why americans like me love the island.)
VIVA CUBA! VIVA LA HABANA! VIVA CUBANOS PESANOS!
therealdeal145 4 years ago
Nice video. I was there in '06 for my honeymoon and were at alot of those places you showed on this video. Was very impressed on how beautiful the countyside looked and all the old classic vehicles they were driving. Thanks for this.
xKidneyStonesx 4 years ago
as a child of six, I witnessed Castro's militia entering my parent's house, checking the cupboards to see if you have any excess sugar or flour and actually taking it away? No matter what you say, la REVOLUCION SUCKS. Castro is a thief, a liar and a abusive son of a bitch. Surely you don't mean inferior language, right? You MUST mean your inferior use of a foreign language, right? Oh...thanks for posting the vid! :-)
ottoelperro 4 years ago
Ottoelperro, it was so much worse under Batista, so the period of transition between these (namely 'La Revolucion') must indeed be a positive thing. Also, in a time of great shortage because of the embargo, why should anyone have excess foodstuff!? Not that your story has any truth in it. Oh and I definetly meant 'inferior language' - everyone knows English is the greatest language in the world, which is why practically everyone learns it :)
jonny616 4 years ago
And just how long did you live under Batista's regime? Because I'm sure you speak from personal experience, right? Oh, you READ it in a book? Gee... You should be lucky you can READ the "greatest language in the world". Read my next comment for more on this. I just don't agree with you at all.
ottoelperro 4 years ago
U.S. Department of Education found that 40 percent of the nation's 13-year olds and 16 percent of the 17-year-olds did not have intermediate reading skills (i.e., they could not find key information, link and compare ideas, or generalize, using materials in science, literature, or social studies). Only 5 percent of the 17-year-olds tested had advanced reading skills — the kind needed to understand complex ideas found in professional or technical journals and textbooks.
ottoelperro 4 years ago
There's some statistics for ya. Enjoy.
ottoelperro 4 years ago
Here's the greatest language in the world: Seventy-three percent of second-graders, 55 percent of third-graders, 57 percent of fourth graders and 49 percent of fifth-graders are not reading on grade level, according to the test. Those are U.S. students, bud. Yeah; EVERYBODY is learning it!
ottoelperro 4 years ago
What the hell? My point was, practically every nation in the world has English on their national curriculum, I thought that was fairly obvious - I apologise for estimating your intelligence as 'mediocre' - evidently this was a gross over-exaggeration on my part, and you have demonstrated your blatant inability to comprehend the most basic of points... what possessed you to quote statistics regarding the failings of the US education system, I don't even live in America?
jonny616 4 years ago
I don't live in the US either, pendejo (you do know that one, right?) The teaching of english in southamerican schools is NOT as relevant as you might think. Yeah; you grossly do exagerate; YOURSELF. Move to Cuba, eh? THEN we can continue this conversation. Let me know when you sink your teeth on a nice steak. Grow up. Open your mind. Free yourself from prejudice. Fidel SUCKS. That's as far as I'm willing to open so don't even try it. Thanks.
ottoelperro 4 years ago
Geez: I just read on your page that you are 18. I should have done my research earlier. You take care, nene. Nice not knowing you, asswipe.
ottoelperro 4 years ago
Oh yes, you've ran out of uninteresting drivel to spout, so time to use the ad hominem attacks, and bring my age into it! If I were you, I'd be seriously lamenting the fact that my mother had chosen to give birth to me, as opposed to brutally aborting me with a coat-hanger; for not existing would surely be better than living your wretched life, where even achieveing mediocrity must be an uphill struggle. You should be embarrassed, 48 and you still believe everything you hear in the media. Haha!
jonny616 4 years ago
And I genuinely have no idea why you brought my age into it; if anything, this simply highlights your own level of intelligence (or lack thereof) as it's palpably clear to anyone with a decent grasp of English (so not you then) that my knowledge extends far beyond anything you could ever hope to achieve -- it's not like it's difficult to simply repeat the drivel spout forth by the bourgeois media, it takes a certain level of intellect to conduct one's own research.
jonny616 4 years ago
Oh, and apologies if I've used any words beyond your grade 3 level of understanding, please remember that Google is your friend, I'm sure words with an excess of 2 syllables shall no longer trouble you! Now kindly fuck off ;)
jonny616 4 years ago
Datos del "Archivo Cubano" reconocido por Amnistia Internacional: 300.000 asesinados por Fidel Castro y su hermano. Ojala la justicia caiga sobre ese par de asesinos algun dia.
tircalina 4 years ago
Las figuras inexactas, si usted supo algo acerca de relaciones internacionales, usted sabría que la Amnistía Internacional es MUY informal. ¿Y de todos modos, que cuida si Fidel mata a capitalistas que quieren explotar cubanos?
jonny616 4 years ago
.. un hospital que no sea el CIMEQ que es el de los extrangeros y diplomaticos.El resto se asemejan a los barracones de los campos de exterminio nazi. Fidel Castro fuera de nuestra tierra y tu jonny616 ocupate de la tuya que los asuntos de cuba los resolveremos los cubanos de dentro y de fuera, mal que te pese calumniador.
tircalina 4 years ago