Imagine that every time a monkey accidentally typed a word, even a simple 2-letter word, that they were given a grape. Eventually, these monkies would develop the ability to type words. They may not even know what they're typing, but they know that certain combinations get grapes. Those that never grasp the concept die off, and those that are well-fed reproduce. And with each generation, the criteria is raised. By the five-hundreth generation or so: Psalms 23. Edgy filter FTW!
I always learned at school that the six monkeys refused to type Psalm 23 because they grunted that they did not believe in all that christian bullshit.
Huxley was wrong because both monkeys and typewriters are insufficiently random and the process insufficiently "progressive" to mimic the process of evolution. It's just a bad analogy and disproving the analogy has no bearing on the validity of evolutionary theory.
the monkey-typewriter situation is a model to show the nature of infinity. the fact that a monkey has never read the text, never used a typewriter and is of insufficient intelligence to produce literature of meaning is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT!!! its random. if an infinite number of monkeys or one monkey with an infinite number of time randomly hit letters on a typewriter FOREVER, by the very definition of the word infinity the monkey/s would type not just the said text, but everything else aswell.
You are an insufferable impenetrable fool and going back to school would do you and everyone else a world of good. Not only that but for the sin of unspeakable inconceivable arrogance you will burn in hell forever. You are an unbelievable human being.
If you have an infinite number of monkeys in an infinitely large room with an infinite number of typewriters then the old and new testament will be written word perfect. An infinite number of monkeys will smash the typewriters. An infinite number of monkeys will poop on the typewriters. An infinite number of monkeys will type utter rubbish. An infinite number of monkeys will type the old and new testament with a single mistake. An infinite number will type them word perfect.
I do hope you realize that when people say the quote "If enough monkeys type on a typewriter for long enough.... etc... etc..." all they are saying is that with chance, if enough chance occurrences occur that eventually you will get what you want. It's like if you had 1000 decks of cards only all the aces were pulled out except 1. If you drew enough cards eventually you would draw that one ace. IF you kept on doing that eventually you would draw the ace first.
its a theoretical infinite number of monkies. Six isn't nearly enough. Its just like the theory that god exists. I prefer the theory that Odin exists. he's cool.
Seems like bad science to put stones in the Laboratory testing room with the monkeys and the typewriters. Souds like an accident waiting to happen. Where were the Health and Safety advisors?
When Huxley said "enough" monkeys, although I don't assume to know what number he had in mind, I'm sure he would have considered 6 to be on the low side.
You say we don't come from monkeys and then provide more evidence that we did. I mean a big room full of people at a Richard Dawkins urinating, defocating, and bludgeoning typewriters with rocks is clear evidence of ape ancestry.
6 monkeys couldn't possibly represent Huxley's point. How about 6,000,000 monkeys given 6,000,000,000 years and I guarentee in that time a few songs would have been produced. The study you mentioned is about as valid as asking 6 people to name every country on the planet in 20 seconds, and upon failing, concluding that whole human race is stupid.
As far as I know, the monkeys and typewriters thing has been a basic probability statement for as long as monkeys and typewriters have shared this earth, but it's not a thoroughly thought out and researched theory.
Although, if you took as many monkeys as there have been evolutionary changes, locked them in a room with typewriters for 4.5 billion years, you might actually get Psalm 23 out of it.
It was the best of times. It was the blurst of times.
So, youre saying Huxleys scenario of a large number requires many more than just 6. Huxley simply offered the monkey parable to introduce the concept of probability. It was not intended to be taken literally. You would be offended if we refuted Christianity by arguing Jesus parables were not true. Yet, that is what you do to those who do not accept Christian teachings.
Did anyone else get the point of this video? I truly did not see what he was getting at. Why would he want monkeys to type anything? Was this all just a way he could call atheists monkeys?
I think that the argument goes,"given an infinite amount of time ANYTHING can happen." Of course, atheists/evolutionists will never admit that there is another possibility - given an infinite amount of time NOTHING can happen....
Imagine that every time a monkey accidentally typed a word, even a simple 2-letter word, that they were given a grape. Eventually, these monkies would develop the ability to type words. They may not even know what they're typing, but they know that certain combinations get grapes. Those that never grasp the concept die off, and those that are well-fed reproduce. And with each generation, the criteria is raised. By the five-hundreth generation or so: Psalms 23. Edgy filter FTW!
StraightRazor99 9 months ago
I always learned at school that the six monkeys refused to type Psalm 23 because they grunted that they did not believe in all that christian bullshit.
greeny202a 9 months ago
Someone doesn't understand the laws of probably and the concept of infinity...
bonertown15 1 year ago
I think the difference between infinite monkeys and 6, infinite typewriters and 1, and infinite time and a few hours is quite a lot.
GotmyplaceinHell 1 year ago
Why are ratings disabled?
SwolllenGoat 1 year ago
You don't even allow channel comments...
osuasheuatl 1 year ago
Huxley was wrong because both monkeys and typewriters are insufficiently random and the process insufficiently "progressive" to mimic the process of evolution. It's just a bad analogy and disproving the analogy has no bearing on the validity of evolutionary theory.
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
the monkey-typewriter situation is a model to show the nature of infinity. the fact that a monkey has never read the text, never used a typewriter and is of insufficient intelligence to produce literature of meaning is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT!!! its random. if an infinite number of monkeys or one monkey with an infinite number of time randomly hit letters on a typewriter FOREVER, by the very definition of the word infinity the monkey/s would type not just the said text, but everything else aswell.
kingWILLYUMZ 1 year ago
You put that argument against evolution so logically and reasonably wow I am a creationist now.
dpfindgod 1 year ago
Ratings disabled. 'Nuff said.
bookwormsrcool 1 year ago
I was going to say this vid was a fail-a-minute but it didn't even last that long.
GrandSupremeDaddyo 2 years ago
You are an insufferable impenetrable fool and going back to school would do you and everyone else a world of good. Not only that but for the sin of unspeakable inconceivable arrogance you will burn in hell forever. You are an unbelievable human being.
flangecake2000 2 years ago
If you have an infinite number of monkeys in an infinitely large room with an infinite number of typewriters then the old and new testament will be written word perfect. An infinite number of monkeys will smash the typewriters. An infinite number of monkeys will poop on the typewriters. An infinite number of monkeys will type utter rubbish. An infinite number of monkeys will type the old and new testament with a single mistake. An infinite number will type them word perfect.
flangecake2000 2 years ago
It's almost God-like; your ability to misinterpret.
areujokingme 2 years ago
I do hope you realize that when people say the quote "If enough monkeys type on a typewriter for long enough.... etc... etc..." all they are saying is that with chance, if enough chance occurrences occur that eventually you will get what you want. It's like if you had 1000 decks of cards only all the aces were pulled out except 1. If you drew enough cards eventually you would draw that one ace. IF you kept on doing that eventually you would draw the ace first.
WaxItYourself 2 years ago
If only you had a clue
macnutz 2 years ago
its a theoretical infinite number of monkies. Six isn't nearly enough. Its just like the theory that god exists. I prefer the theory that Odin exists. he's cool.
soavifox 2 years ago
I write. Some days it's like that, just a monkey treating a typewriter badly. I'm sure W.S. would understand as well.
pumkinpi2 2 years ago
You should change your name to StrawmanAbuser At least that would be honest.
knineu02 2 years ago 3
Seems like bad science to put stones in the Laboratory testing room with the monkeys and the typewriters. Souds like an accident waiting to happen. Where were the Health and Safety advisors?
doireallyneed1 2 years ago
This guy got relly excited about the monkey who was fondling himself.
ZShort1985 2 years ago 2
When Huxley said "enough" monkeys, although I don't assume to know what number he had in mind, I'm sure he would have considered 6 to be on the low side.
doireallyneed1 2 years ago 2
now you are comparing atheists to monkey what the fuck does that mean do you not know that monkeys are intellegent primapes.
intellectualman100 2 years ago
one star
I love people whp dont have the courage to have their videis rated.
Reason for one Star? Copied the monkey example from a book, (pol. inco, guide to evolution) and you are too dumb to see how his logic fails, ;)
truevoiceofsanity 2 years ago
Once again Brock sets up his own strawman, then.... wait for it....... he knocks it down again.....
mattyabsley 2 years ago
And you actually use this case as an argument
against Huxley's claim ?
That's .. Pathethic, to say the very least.
godverdegodverdomme 2 years ago
I think it was predicted that by randomly hitting keys it would take longer then the universe has existed to produce these writings.
randomlylostperson 2 years ago
You say we don't come from monkeys and then provide more evidence that we did. I mean a big room full of people at a Richard Dawkins urinating, defocating, and bludgeoning typewriters with rocks is clear evidence of ape ancestry.
Nihilist127 2 years ago 2
6 monkeys couldn't possibly represent Huxley's point. How about 6,000,000 monkeys given 6,000,000,000 years and I guarentee in that time a few songs would have been produced. The study you mentioned is about as valid as asking 6 people to name every country on the planet in 20 seconds, and upon failing, concluding that whole human race is stupid.
Laurence000001 2 years ago
As far as I know, the monkeys and typewriters thing has been a basic probability statement for as long as monkeys and typewriters have shared this earth, but it's not a thoroughly thought out and researched theory.
Although, if you took as many monkeys as there have been evolutionary changes, locked them in a room with typewriters for 4.5 billion years, you might actually get Psalm 23 out of it.
It was the best of times. It was the blurst of times.
athywren 2 years ago
So, youre saying Huxleys scenario of a large number requires many more than just 6. Huxley simply offered the monkey parable to introduce the concept of probability. It was not intended to be taken literally. You would be offended if we refuted Christianity by arguing Jesus parables were not true. Yet, that is what you do to those who do not accept Christian teachings.
financialcounselor 2 years ago 6
This is a fair and constructive point
fair enough FC
TheAtheistAntidote 2 years ago
this is so funny
jbooks888 2 years ago
Did anyone else get the point of this video? I truly did not see what he was getting at. Why would he want monkeys to type anything? Was this all just a way he could call atheists monkeys?
ManicEightBall 2 years ago
I know hilarious, right? Watch out Carrot-Top!
vadimcream 2 years ago 2
5 monkies wont do it...
5 00 000 000 000 over 500 generations all spearated so they have to focus on the type writer might get there eventualy.
relgious people can never think in scales bigger then 6000....
ZerqTM 2 years ago 12
lol. best religious burn ever.
Fawkes676 2 years ago
@ZerqTM
Not even 500 000 000 000 over 500 generations will do it. Sorry.
logicCplusplus 1 year ago
@ZerqTM
"5 00 000 000 000 over 500 generations all spearated so they have to focus on the type writer might get there eventualy."
not enough...not to mention that there won't be any *focusing* or *separating* as the things in question has no mind, purpose or goal of it's own.
1SavageDragon1 10 months ago
So what scientific principle did they use to equate that "Enough Monkeys" = 6???
Just sounds like another 'Way of the Master' example of how to make yourself look like a complete idiot.
So monkeys acting random reminded you of people waiting in line? Good thing you had just the right sfx to make that make sense (sarcasm).
VeritasLiber 2 years ago 2
Somebody ought to take you to the bank and lock you in it.
Seems to me that the monkeys in that room were more productive than you were in making this video.
ThoughtfulAtheist 2 years ago 5
OH NO YOU DIDNT! ahahaha
jmsimpson11 2 years ago
OH YES HE DID, MATE! ahahahaha!
WordPlanter 2 years ago
I think that the argument goes,"given an infinite amount of time ANYTHING can happen." Of course, atheists/evolutionists will never admit that there is another possibility - given an infinite amount of time NOTHING can happen....
marklross2 2 years ago
Your a wise wise man! Well said!
WordPlanter 2 years ago
"Of course, atheists/evolutionists will never admit that there is another possibility - given an infinite amount of time NOTHING can happen...."
Perhaps that would be because in an infinite
amount of time, something is bound to happen ?
It is a certaincy, a guarantee if you will.
Maybe you'll come to see this one day,
in case you haven't already changed your mind.
godverdegodverdomme 2 years ago