US Military can accomplish the same objective without using these weapons. Being Military professionals we have to ask, are we using the wrong application of resources to accomplish our objective? If our objective is strictly revenge. That is, to retaliate for a wrong done to us. Why not eradicate the entire population. Where do we draw the line. It is an over application of resources which have a lasting negative effect that is not necessary.
@dklein2008 While handling U-238 is safe, breathing in particles is highly dangerous. When ammunition hits a target, of course it's going to create dust. The radiation is highly ionising (alpha-decay) and therefore does serious damage to genes and tissue on the molecular level. That is why your comment is ridiculous.
@SpasticatedCunt That's better, I completely agree with you, my first comment was written a year ago, before I totally understood what happened to ionized U-238, so my first comment is just ignorance, and while I knew that, I refuse to argue or agree with anyone unless they provide an actual argument or statement, not just some comment to invoke an emotional response.
@dklein2008 Well, you've just been presented with the facts....You could delete the comment if you want. Apologies for the insulting response. Now good day sir.
no doubt about it, you have some strong opinions on the the US military. As far as treason against god.... well I suppose that depends on your own interpretation of god
DU isnt radioactive anyway, thats all hype..it gives off some waveleanths if you put a detector right up to it but its all alphawaves..about like a cell phone. Fuck em anyway, we should have killed all of them.
They should have straight up called it a war on Islam and leveled Mecca, the whole nine yards. If I were Emperor, it would have been flat out Genocide! Problem solved.
..and thats how it SHOULD ROLL! Thats the strategy for success, proven by thousands of years of history. Every major issue in the history of mankind was eventually solved by Victory though violence. Without it, you aint shit! If you protested agianst me for bombing Mecca, Id bomb your fucking protests right here in the US, Id make sure every fucking network was playing that shit..a collage professor speaks out against me, hes going to have to watch my goons rape is wife and daughters..Im bad!
The Romans called this "pacification by force." Sounds shitty, but as Erasmus once said, "The most disadvantageous peace is better than the most just war." Now that can be taken two ways, first that peace must be sought even at the cost of our own slavery and misery under Islamic terrorism. Or secondly, that the peace achieved by destroying the Middle East will be disadvantageous, but still a damn sight better than what we're going through now. I go with the latter.
Gloomshadow1-- I am guessing you are a eunuch 12 year old from the way you talk... but anyhow, it's too late for your aspirations now-- The physicists and generals who escaped Iraq to Russia have already diverted the uranium and plutonium for the nuclear bombs they will drop on the U.S. in the future. The only question is when.... I would guess they still need a few years so it will probably end up being rather convenient, perhaps right around 2012 for extra special effect.
- 9/11 was a Pentagon scenario played out. see "Operation Northwoods"
But Get Beyond All That because Demanding the answers is like Trying to Stop
a Tiger by Grabbing It's Tail .. Block it's Path instead. WE better start WORRYING ABOUT THE NEXT FALSE FLAG ATTACK ON Us
All indications promise that the Pentagon WILL VERY SOON DO IT AGAIN as a pretext to MORE WAR. In order to Blame the same innocent civilizations or pick a NEW govt to VILLIFY
Advertising works and is why so much money is spent on it. Product names are carefully chosen to make them more appealing even if the names are sometimes misleading. Take for example, DU or
Depleted Uranium - DU sounds kind of cutesy and "Depleted" Uranium sounds,well,depleted.
DU is NOT cutesy and "Depleted" Uranium is far from depleted.
Du is put on the tips of billets DU bullets are so dense it can rip though anything the only problem is is that as soon as the round hits somthing some of the urainum breaks off in the form of DU dust.
Du tank rounds are not overkill An allied tank was hit on the glacius plate by a iraq DU round from long range and it stuck in the armour and did not go all the way through. Aircraft need DU rounds to penatrate tank top and sides with their 30mmm rounds. The US navy got rid of their DU rounds they said it was because when their fireing 30mm Du rounds at incoming aircraft theirs would be radioacive dust raining down on all the fleet ships.
@petryz I would not call U238 waste. It can be bombarded with neutrons which make U239 which decays to Np239 which decays to Pu239 which can be used for fission. Of course, Hmmm, Iraq should start a recycle program and send it back to the US, lol.
You guys are fuckin stupid- every time you shoot a gun - theres dust off every shot that forms around the shooter, every soldier that went in the war is now a walking Cancer Carrier- just about all the officers in 9/11 and clean up crews have Cancer and respiratory problems- many are just Dead or diein and forced to retire-
You guys are fuckin stupid- every time you shoot a gun - theres dust off every shot that forms around the shooter, every soldier that went in the war is now a walking Cancer Carrier
----
Uhhh... they were not bullets that were fired in the war that were DU. Also...the dust is from the gunpowder... not the round of ammunition. At least... if you are using the right loads and not ruining your guns.
The only rounds to usually use it are large caliber bullets often used on vehicles or aircraft, and tank shells. There are DU bullets that can be used with small arms, but they are uncommon.
DU, or u238 doesn't emit harmful radiation, at normal temperature, just when it's red hot or molten so, the radiation is emited when the tip of a du round hits a hard target (steel, rock..) and heats, but when it cools, no more dangerous radiation. the radiation emited by the cold DU can be stoped even by a lair of paint.
Notice how he has to put the "geiger counter" right up within a couple of centimetres of the DU round to get a higher reading. That's because it's almost all alpha particles being emitted, which are stopped by paper or a few centimetres of air. Even if you carried a DU round around in your bare hand for your entire life you probably wouldn't have any adverse health effects.
And then, what's with the interview with the guy from the Christian Science Monitor. This video is a fucking joke.
The point of the round is to super heat on impact to melt right though it, Its not Militarys fault they just happend to have Russin tanks on every block of the city. What do you want them to do go in on foot and throw rocks at the tanks hopeing they will go away?
Lokivoid - look, DU is not required to go against OLD russian tanks. DU is extremely overkill. Even our most "weakest" of anti-tank, armor penetrating weapons will blast through whatever the Iraqi's have. Most we are fighting have AK47's and other small arms fire. Using DU on EVERYTHING, A-10's, helicopters, etc. and fighting poor people is like killing a FLY with a NUKE! WAKE UP! Do some research! WATCH BEYOND TREASON and Poison DUst on Google Video!
DU is our Weakest / cheapest AT round for one. Two Overkill is allways the objective of war to kill the opposition or force them into a tactical retreat with minimal losses time is a veriable. you can whine about it all you want but sense when was any war good for the eniverioment. Do research your self, fyi apaches dont use DU rounds they use Thungsten / magnesium rounds only a fue aircraft are fitted to fire DU A10 and harrier are two of them.
Ok, Lokivoid... DU IS OVERKILL. Iraq, at best, has tanks and technology at least 30 years behind ours. A few dirt bunkers and a lot of guys with AK47's. If we stopped using DU and even tungsten and switched to good old LEAD, we would NOT LOSE the war or lose ANY battles. If you look at Naomi Toyoda who is risking is LIFE by examining places shot up by A-10's, tanks, helicopters, etc. he finds DU EVERYWHERE. The troops aren't told if its lead, tungsten or DU. Wake the fuck up. Just google DU!
once again Overkill is the point, Two All our tanks fire DU as standard rounds why becuse there Ment to take out buildings and armored targets and have not used Lead rounds sense the 60's weight kills the cannons range and volocity. Three Lead tends to kill people aswell my friend it poisons the ground and anything that feeds apon the ground. but your missing the point WAR IS NOT GOOD FOR PEOPLE PEROID and its not going to stop its human nature just need to accept it and live with that fact.
the iraqi army's MBT is the assid babil, a clone of the soviet T72, which is only about 10 years older than the M1 abrams. it still poses a threat, not a very big one, but still a threat. also, it's spaced armor and ERA makes HEAT rounds rather ineffective so the only real choice is DU rounds
erichasaflatface - What's your point? That Iraq has such a MASSIVE army using soviet tanks that are only 10 years older than our own tanks.. so the ONLY option is to use a WEAPON OF GENOCIDE that lasts 4.5 BILLION YEARS?
When was the last time you saw Iraqi's use a TANK in the past 5 years? Not once. Its this guerrilla warfare. Guys running around with RPG's, rifles and maybe a few bombs. Its face-to-face combat.
Stop advocating the use of DU as if its gods gift to the world, ASSHOLE!
Gee Justin, Isee you have atken a huge bite of the "We are the Bad Guys" pie. Well there mrjustin, I think you need to look at the BIG picture and have yourself a nice hot cup of clue the fuck in. And while you are at it, please start engineering a penetrator round that will RELIABLY penetrate todays MBT armor. Thank you and fuck off!
DEPLETED URANIUM IS KILLING US...and who's fault is that...ours...so why don't we change the way this world is ran and vote all the people who have been in congress for too long...out of there...just vote the imcumbents out.....vote for someone new....this is the PEOPLE'S PARTY.....let's do something about this
mmbroda, I'm in pain for your family. I hope you will have some grateful from your governement! I'm french and I'm writting a book about depleted uranium used in weapons. I'm so sorry for your husband and for your. Bye
radioactive bullets........ fallout........ :)
MrGamerman001 1 month ago
Hiroshima, A shadow burned in time
Nagasaki, naked baby melts alive
Burnt flesh and rubble from sea to dead shore
Such a hideous theatre of war
But that was the end--Why?
There are so many more that must die
Is that not part of the plan?
I must use the nukes
I can't kill you all with my hands
BRING BACK THE BOMB
subzer0885 1 year ago
US Military can accomplish the same objective without using these weapons. Being Military professionals we have to ask, are we using the wrong application of resources to accomplish our objective? If our objective is strictly revenge. That is, to retaliate for a wrong done to us. Why not eradicate the entire population. Where do we draw the line. It is an over application of resources which have a lasting negative effect that is not necessary.
9485731 1 year ago
Everybody does realize that U238 is no more dangerous than lead, right?
dklein2008 2 years ago 7
@dklein2008 Ok, go breathe in some lead dust so....you fucking moron
SpasticatedCunt 9 months ago
@SpasticatedCunt I have a feeling you ate a lot of lead as a child...
dklein2008 9 months ago
@dklein2008 I have a feeling that you're an idiot
SpasticatedCunt 9 months ago
@SpasticatedCunt Can you say anything substantiative to what this video about?
dklein2008 9 months ago
@dklein2008 While handling U-238 is safe, breathing in particles is highly dangerous. When ammunition hits a target, of course it's going to create dust. The radiation is highly ionising (alpha-decay) and therefore does serious damage to genes and tissue on the molecular level. That is why your comment is ridiculous.
SpasticatedCunt 9 months ago
@SpasticatedCunt That's better, I completely agree with you, my first comment was written a year ago, before I totally understood what happened to ionized U-238, so my first comment is just ignorance, and while I knew that, I refuse to argue or agree with anyone unless they provide an actual argument or statement, not just some comment to invoke an emotional response.
dklein2008 9 months ago
@dklein2008 Well, you've just been presented with the facts....You could delete the comment if you want. Apologies for the insulting response. Now good day sir.
SpasticatedCunt 9 months ago
no doubt about it the US military must be wiped out. financially and physically. this is treason against god
ereinbold 2 years ago
no doubt about it, you have some strong opinions on the the US military. As far as treason against god.... well I suppose that depends on your own interpretation of god
dethsatan 2 years ago
@ereinbold execution of POWs must be fined to do then. eye for an eye. think the US is they only country to use DU rounds
millertime60 1 year ago
I am sickened by this.
Just sickened.
BellyButtonQuiz 2 years ago
"Do i care~WHAT~WHEN&WHERE!?"
WeedWizz 2 years ago
"God thing you WROTE IT IN TRIPLICATES!"
WeedWizz 2 years ago
"DUMBASSES!"
WeedWizz 2 years ago
"Mac~Geiger Time Bitches!"
WeedWizz 2 years ago
"Chernobyl taught us that radiation aint dangerous, so lets put it in our ammo and shoot it all around us!! " -_-
Aqwad 2 years ago
Their jelous cause they dont have DU
Schultz98 2 years ago 2
Good! let em rot! I hate all of em! Every man woman and child!
Gloomshadow1 2 years ago
Me too! I'm glad they're dead, and I hope they went out nice and slow screaming in radiation agony and begging God for relief!
Lassann 2 years ago
DU isnt radioactive anyway, thats all hype..it gives off some waveleanths if you put a detector right up to it but its all alphawaves..about like a cell phone. Fuck em anyway, we should have killed all of them.
Gloomshadow1 2 years ago
Thanks for that. But anyway, I think we should fucking nuke the cunts. Big honking king kong nukes.
Lassann 2 years ago
They should have straight up called it a war on Islam and leveled Mecca, the whole nine yards. If I were Emperor, it would have been flat out Genocide! Problem solved.
Gloomshadow1 2 years ago
True dat, yo. Hell, there wouldn't have been anyone left to complain. That's how Julius Caesar rolled.
Lassann 2 years ago
..and thats how it SHOULD ROLL! Thats the strategy for success, proven by thousands of years of history. Every major issue in the history of mankind was eventually solved by Victory though violence. Without it, you aint shit! If you protested agianst me for bombing Mecca, Id bomb your fucking protests right here in the US, Id make sure every fucking network was playing that shit..a collage professor speaks out against me, hes going to have to watch my goons rape is wife and daughters..Im bad!
Gloomshadow1 2 years ago
The Romans called this "pacification by force." Sounds shitty, but as Erasmus once said, "The most disadvantageous peace is better than the most just war." Now that can be taken two ways, first that peace must be sought even at the cost of our own slavery and misery under Islamic terrorism. Or secondly, that the peace achieved by destroying the Middle East will be disadvantageous, but still a damn sight better than what we're going through now. I go with the latter.
Lassann 2 years ago
Gloomshadow1-- I am guessing you are a eunuch 12 year old from the way you talk... but anyhow, it's too late for your aspirations now-- The physicists and generals who escaped Iraq to Russia have already diverted the uranium and plutonium for the nuclear bombs they will drop on the U.S. in the future. The only question is when.... I would guess they still need a few years so it will probably end up being rather convenient, perhaps right around 2012 for extra special effect.
StarryKid06 2 years ago
what a fag!
Gloomshadow1 2 years ago
@starrykid06
the only 10 yr old brain here is yours.
who told you all that crap and filled your brain with it.
You have more imagination than star wars.
mrgiacomo1000 2 years ago
Really? Don't take my word for it... Google the following:
bellona 39468
and also:
bellona 24099
Click the first links found.
StarryKid06 2 years ago
you know nothing StarryKid06
search "The Jesuit Order"
Puremexican4 1 year ago
@Puremexican4
"you know nothing" heh ok
StarryKid06 1 year ago
Good, it'll help us kill those bastards.
RebornPWNSHOPP 2 years ago 2
I could give a shit if some terrorist or his kin gets cancer.
RebornPWNSHOPP 2 years ago
What about the US troops inhaling the radioactive dust in Iraq and Afghanistan? And there won't be always terrorists in those countries.....
There were already multiple cases of contaminated American soldiers... just ask google.
Havord06 2 years ago 2
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- 9/11 was a Pentagon scenario played out. see "Operation Northwoods"
But Get Beyond All That because Demanding the answers is like Trying to Stop
a Tiger by Grabbing It's Tail .. Block it's Path instead. WE better start WORRYING ABOUT THE NEXT FALSE FLAG ATTACK ON Us
All indications promise that the Pentagon WILL VERY SOON DO IT AGAIN as a pretext to MORE WAR. In order to Blame the same innocent civilizations or pick a NEW govt to VILLIFY
"BIO-Terror From South America" Kill 1million
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4aaaaa4 2 years ago
We are soooo fucked...
WoWJakfrost 2 years ago
Advertising works and is why so much money is spent on it. Product names are carefully chosen to make them more appealing even if the names are sometimes misleading. Take for example, DU or
Depleted Uranium - DU sounds kind of cutesy and "Depleted" Uranium sounds,well,depleted.
DU is NOT cutesy and "Depleted" Uranium is far from depleted.
Paul Turner
wilsonpwt 2 years ago
Why?
150133 2 years ago
Because....
Godd78 2 years ago
money...
150133 2 years ago
what do DU rounds do other than give off radiation?
gaktkr 2 years ago
fuck you up bitch
Robtarded 2 years ago
Du is put on the tips of billets DU bullets are so dense it can rip though anything the only problem is is that as soon as the round hits somthing some of the urainum breaks off in the form of DU dust.
kiedog250 2 years ago
DU rounds can cut through steel like butter
TheTrueMetal9 2 years ago
Du tank rounds are not overkill An allied tank was hit on the glacius plate by a iraq DU round from long range and it stuck in the armour and did not go all the way through. Aircraft need DU rounds to penatrate tank top and sides with their 30mmm rounds. The US navy got rid of their DU rounds they said it was because when their fireing 30mm Du rounds at incoming aircraft theirs would be radioacive dust raining down on all the fleet ships.
NielsShoe 2 years ago
DU rounds: a cheaper way to get rid of the nuclear waste
petryz 3 years ago 10
@petryz I would not call U238 waste. It can be bombarded with neutrons which make U239 which decays to Np239 which decays to Pu239 which can be used for fission. Of course, Hmmm, Iraq should start a recycle program and send it back to the US, lol.
vmelkon 1 year ago
You guys are fuckin stupid- every time you shoot a gun - theres dust off every shot that forms around the shooter, every soldier that went in the war is now a walking Cancer Carrier- just about all the officers in 9/11 and clean up crews have Cancer and respiratory problems- many are just Dead or diein and forced to retire-
DragonToes13 3 years ago 2
You guys are fuckin stupid- every time you shoot a gun - theres dust off every shot that forms around the shooter, every soldier that went in the war is now a walking Cancer Carrier
----
Uhhh... they were not bullets that were fired in the war that were DU. Also...the dust is from the gunpowder... not the round of ammunition. At least... if you are using the right loads and not ruining your guns.
Maybe you are the one who is stupid.
DURound 3 years ago 3
Regular bullets don't use DU. Armor piercing rounds use a steel or tungsten core.
madpaintbalerx 2 years ago
The only rounds to usually use it are large caliber bullets often used on vehicles or aircraft, and tank shells. There are DU bullets that can be used with small arms, but they are uncommon.
madpaintbalerx 2 years ago
DU, or u238 doesn't emit harmful radiation, at normal temperature, just when it's red hot or molten so, the radiation is emited when the tip of a du round hits a hard target (steel, rock..) and heats, but when it cools, no more dangerous radiation. the radiation emited by the cold DU can be stoped even by a lair of paint.
stalkersas 3 years ago
Notice how he has to put the "geiger counter" right up within a couple of centimetres of the DU round to get a higher reading. That's because it's almost all alpha particles being emitted, which are stopped by paper or a few centimetres of air. Even if you carried a DU round around in your bare hand for your entire life you probably wouldn't have any adverse health effects.
And then, what's with the interview with the guy from the Christian Science Monitor. This video is a fucking joke.
Pewpewlas3rgun 3 years ago 3
its penetration come from extreme density
nordicbastard7 3 years ago 2
THATS WHAT SHE SAID!
coolstream1 3 years ago 3
Actually, it comes from adiabatic shear banding.
Tr33fiddy 3 years ago
The point of the round is to super heat on impact to melt right though it, Its not Militarys fault they just happend to have Russin tanks on every block of the city. What do you want them to do go in on foot and throw rocks at the tanks hopeing they will go away?
Lokivoid 4 years ago
Lokivoid - look, DU is not required to go against OLD russian tanks. DU is extremely overkill. Even our most "weakest" of anti-tank, armor penetrating weapons will blast through whatever the Iraqi's have. Most we are fighting have AK47's and other small arms fire. Using DU on EVERYTHING, A-10's, helicopters, etc. and fighting poor people is like killing a FLY with a NUKE! WAKE UP! Do some research! WATCH BEYOND TREASON and Poison DUst on Google Video!
mrjustin5 3 years ago
DU is our Weakest / cheapest AT round for one. Two Overkill is allways the objective of war to kill the opposition or force them into a tactical retreat with minimal losses time is a veriable. you can whine about it all you want but sense when was any war good for the eniverioment. Do research your self, fyi apaches dont use DU rounds they use Thungsten / magnesium rounds only a fue aircraft are fitted to fire DU A10 and harrier are two of them.
Lokivoid 3 years ago
Ok, Lokivoid... DU IS OVERKILL. Iraq, at best, has tanks and technology at least 30 years behind ours. A few dirt bunkers and a lot of guys with AK47's. If we stopped using DU and even tungsten and switched to good old LEAD, we would NOT LOSE the war or lose ANY battles. If you look at Naomi Toyoda who is risking is LIFE by examining places shot up by A-10's, tanks, helicopters, etc. he finds DU EVERYWHERE. The troops aren't told if its lead, tungsten or DU. Wake the fuck up. Just google DU!
mrjustin5 3 years ago
once again Overkill is the point, Two All our tanks fire DU as standard rounds why becuse there Ment to take out buildings and armored targets and have not used Lead rounds sense the 60's weight kills the cannons range and volocity. Three Lead tends to kill people aswell my friend it poisons the ground and anything that feeds apon the ground. but your missing the point WAR IS NOT GOOD FOR PEOPLE PEROID and its not going to stop its human nature just need to accept it and live with that fact.
Lokivoid 3 years ago 2
the iraqi army's MBT is the assid babil, a clone of the soviet T72, which is only about 10 years older than the M1 abrams. it still poses a threat, not a very big one, but still a threat. also, it's spaced armor and ERA makes HEAT rounds rather ineffective so the only real choice is DU rounds
erichasaflatface 2 years ago
erichasaflatface - What's your point? That Iraq has such a MASSIVE army using soviet tanks that are only 10 years older than our own tanks.. so the ONLY option is to use a WEAPON OF GENOCIDE that lasts 4.5 BILLION YEARS?
When was the last time you saw Iraqi's use a TANK in the past 5 years? Not once. Its this guerrilla warfare. Guys running around with RPG's, rifles and maybe a few bombs. Its face-to-face combat.
Stop advocating the use of DU as if its gods gift to the world, ASSHOLE!
mrjustin5 2 years ago
Gee Justin, Isee you have atken a huge bite of the "We are the Bad Guys" pie. Well there mrjustin, I think you need to look at the BIG picture and have yourself a nice hot cup of clue the fuck in. And while you are at it, please start engineering a penetrator round that will RELIABLY penetrate todays MBT armor. Thank you and fuck off!
sakoshooter48 2 years ago
whats the point of these rounds is it to kill more people over a long period of time or somethin else
vtkrey 4 years ago
they have a higher mass then lead so it can peirce metal easily
thirsokewl 3 years ago 3
what is wrong with this world?! were spending so much money on thinking of new ways to kill each other!
Haxxin 4 years ago
DEPLETED URANIUM IS KILLING US...and who's fault is that...ours...so why don't we change the way this world is ran and vote all the people who have been in congress for too long...out of there...just vote the imcumbents out.....vote for someone new....this is the PEOPLE'S PARTY.....let's do something about this
Jackie205683 4 years ago
My friends husband died from a rare blood cancer after exposure to DU dust as a tank commander in Gulf War 1
mmbroda 4 years ago
mmbroda, I'm in pain for your family. I hope you will have some grateful from your governement! I'm french and I'm writting a book about depleted uranium used in weapons. I'm so sorry for your husband and for your. Bye
frenchbahia 4 years ago 2
USGov admits 1943=toxic
Depleted Uranium is WMD.
Tell the soldier the truth about Depleted Uranium, and the soldier won't go to war.
It's too bad the soldier doesn't know, Depleted Uranium kills, and the soldier is expendable.
The U.S. has used more depleted uranium since 1991 than the atomicity equivalent of 400,000 Nagasaki bombs.
Since 1943 the military has been aware of the extreme toxicity of uranium as a gas.
518,000 Gulf-era vets in 2004 are now on medical disability.
depleteduraniumiswmd 4 years ago