How to load an 8mm movie camera (Part 2)

[omacias4]

Hi great video helped me alot, quick question is 8mm film reusable? i bought a brownie with film already in it, how do i know its been used,

thank you.

[ct92404]

@omacias4

No, there is no way to tell. Movie film works the same as regular film for taking pictures. You won't see any images on it until the film is developed with chemicals. If you're really curious to see what is on that film, the only way to find out will be to send it to a lab to have it developed.

[ct92404]

@omacias4

BTW, this is common sense, but film is light sensitive! If you expose it to light, you'll ruin it. The spools on movie film protect the film from light, but the part that is already unwound will be ruined. If you want to see what is on that film, you should just close the camera and then run it until the film is completely wound on the take-up spool. Then send it to a lab to have it developed.

[omacias4]

@ct92404 Thank you for your response.

[TheBackPorchWoodsman]

Very helpful. Thank You.

[etouma]

Hey man, your videos are great. I recently bought a Bell & Howell Electric Eye (I believe its model 310, but it's not specified), but is missing the spool where the film is rolled, you know what I mean? It looks like yours at 2:30. Could I just use the plastic of an old film, or does it have to be an specific piece? Is it a standard piece for all cameras? I would greatly apreciate your help! Thanks for the videos again!

[ct92404]

@etouma

Yeah, that's just the take-up spool. It's standard for all 8mm cameras, so you can use any 8mm spool. If you find an old roll of film, you can just use that spool. Or if you want, maybe I can just send you one. I have a bunch of them. I just noticed you sent me a message, so I'll reply to that.

[MrLittleman63]

thanks for the video. Very educational

how many meters can these cameras have. I know you can buy an extension but without that, what is the maximum of meters of film these cameras can go?

[hothmandon]

i was tould that even though you diddnt get instant results like you can with video it was still fun to do stuff in front of the camera and wait for the film to get developed and then seing what it looked like. I thought about that and thought that is 1 quality that digital cameras willo never have

[brsgraphic]

I recently found some double 8mm unopened film and it dates back to 1958 and 1960. Wondering if it was still okay to use.

[ct92404]

@brsgraphic

No, I wouldn't bother trying to use film that old. It would really be worth more as a display or collectible, especially if you still have the original box. One time, I did try to use film I found that expired in 1974, and it came out but it was really faded and you could barely see it. But really, you don't have to bother with old film since you can still buy 8mm film new. You can order it online from a bunch of places, like Dwayne's Photo.

[1770studios]

@ct92404 fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck i found one too and i used it ;(

[MaRiPi]

Great vid! I got a Crown 8 E3B camera from my grandma and I still haven't been able to mak it work. But nvm, I loved the video.

[couchstyleowns]

where did you find film for this?

[ct92404]

@couchstyleowns

Did you read any of the comments below?? I'm sorry, I don't mean to be rude but it's just that I'm getting tired of answering the same question over and over again. Please read the other comments - I've explained several times where you can order 8mm movie film. I also explained it in the video description. You can order it from Dwayne's Photo in Parsons, Kansas. There are a lot of other places too, just look it up on Google.

[nubapowner5000]

@couchstyleowns Are you a complete fucking idiot?

[heshmuffinsvideo]

I have a mansfield 8mm holiday metermatic and i am still ordering film, but when i wind it, it winds for like 1 second then it stops and isnt able to wind anymore. then when i press the record lever it only turns the take up spool like a quarter turn.

is there something wrond with my camera or will i be able to wind/record longer once i get film?

[ct92404]

It sounds like there is something wrong with your camera :(

You should be able to wind it and run it, even if there isn't any film loaded.

[heshmuffinsvideo]

Hmm. that sucks. do you know of any way to fix it?

[ct92404]

No, unfortunately the spring mechanism on most old 8mm cameras is really complicated and hard to fix. I tried to take apart an 8mm camera one time, and I could never get it back together right! It's a mess of gears and springs and tiny parts. You're probably better off just getting another camera. You can find them cheap in thrift shops, antiques, eBay, etc. I mean, you can try to fix your camera if you want, but you should look to see if you can find a diagram first.

[OnlineCurious]

Great info! So when you are actually done with both side do you need to worry about light to unload it and take to process?

[ct92404]

No, you don't have to worry about that. There is actually a little bit of extra film on the end of the roll, called the "leader" so that you can load the camera. Also, the spool protects the rest of the film from light. It's like the leader on 35mm film, when you take pictures with a 35mm camera. You don't have to load or unload a movie camera in the dark. Just don't do it in direct sunlight. Load and unload the camera in "subdued" light, like indoors or at least in the shade.

[zapperz2]

Yeah, it is cool and all, but how can you actually play the film and see what you have recorded with the camera.?

[ct92404]

Of course you can. You just have to send the film to a lab to have it developed (I send mine to the same place where I buy the film) and then you can play it on a projector.

[moneyman1934]

Very cool video! I actually bought a Brownie Movie Camera from an antique mall just a couple weeks ago. The motor sounds GREAT! I am trying to find film for it, so I went to Dwayne's Photo website. But they don't sell Kodachrome film anymore, which is what my camera uses. Do you know any other place that sells this type of film?

[ct92404]

Unfortunately, no one sells Kodachrome film anymore. Kodak stopped manufacturing it just recently. But don't worry, your camera CAN use Ektachrome 100D. I've used it in my Brownie cameras, and in fact I even shot it in my Kodak Cine 8, which is a REALLY antique 8mm camera (from the 1930's!). At first I was worried because I thought the film might be overexposed...but it turned out fine. You can get Ektachrome 100D from Dwayne's Photo, or there are also other places that sell it.

[ct92404]

Read the rest of the comments below. I was talking with another guy earlier about using Ektachrome 100D film in a Brownie camera.

[redlipstickchick]

this is the same or similar to how to load a KEYSTONE 8MM K 26/KODACHROME 2 MOVIE FILM, TYPE A right?

[ct92404]

All Regular 8mm ("double run" 8) movie cameras pretty much load the same. I made a 2-part video, this is part 2.

[clamyhands]

Hi, i just bought some 8mm standard film, how do i know if its double run?

Thanks

[ct92404]

If it's "Regular 8mm" or "Standard 8mm" then it's double run. It all means the same thing. There is a Single 8mm film, but it's actually very rare and from what I understand, hardly anyone uses it. When you bought your film, if they said it's "Standard 8mm" then it will be double run.

[realripestudios]

Wow this is so cool! I just bought a Brownie 2 f/2.3 at an antique store today. It's in really good condition, too. I am so glad to hear that you can get the 8mm film from Dwayne's photo in Parsons! I used to live there, and I actually live about 10 minutes away from there now, so I'll go right over there and see what I can do. Do you know if Dwayne's processes it too and converts it to watchable format?

[ct92404]

yup, Dwayne's Photo can develop it too. You're so lucky that you live nearby! I would be down there all the time! They CAN convert 8mm movies to DVD (or also .AVI format if you wanted to watch or edit the video on your computer). But I've never actually had my movies converted. I actually just watch them on a projector! :)

[fisherjohn]

I have just got a super 8 camera, i was under the impression that the film would have to be loaded in the dark? would the film not become exposed if loaded with even some light?

[ct92404]

fisherjohn, it actually has a little bit of extra film at the beginning of the roll, called the "leader." Yes, you will expose that part but it won't affect the rest of your movie. I use Regular 8mm film, which comes on spools. The spools are made so that the flange actually protects the rest of the film from light, so you don't have load the film in the dark. With a Super-8 camera, it's even easier...just snap the cartridge in! It does NOT have to be loaded in the dark.

[Kelleymuro]

also, with that film Ektachrome 100D Regular 8 film doesn't allow you to flip it over and film on the other side of the film?

correct?

[ct92404]

Actually, it does. That's why it's called "double run" 8mm film. You expose both edges of the film. You run it through the camera one way, then flip the spools over and run it through again. It's actually 25 feet of 16mm film, but the lab splits it in half and splies it together, and so you end up with a 50 foot roll of 8mm.

[ct92404]

Any movie film that says "Regular", "Standard" or "Double Run 8" is the same kind of 8mm movie film. The only difference is the ISO and whether the film is color, black and white, etc. But "double run" and Regular are all the same size 8mm movie film.

[Kelleymuro]

Is the film you are talking about that works for the Kodak Brownie this 'Ektachrome 100D Regular 8 x 25ft (for double 8 cameras) $17.00' thats the description in the .pdf file for purchasing movie film.

Am I looking at the correct one?

[ct92404]

Yup, that's it. That's the right film. Of course, that will work in ANY Regular 8mm camera, not just the Kodak Brownie. Now, technically the film may be overexposed if you shoot in bright sunlight because it's a 100 ISO fim, and the shutter speed of really old cameras like the Brownie was only about 1/40 or 1/50. BUT, I did try a roll of it in an antique Kodak Cine 8 camera that I have (it's from the 1930s!) and it worked perfectly fine. It looked pretty good, in fact. So give it a try!

[ct92404]

...also, remember that the Brownie movie camera has an adjustable aperture. You will adjust the F-stop for the lighting conditions. With that film, you'll probably want to keep the aperture around f/11 or f/16 unless you're in the shade or at sunset.

[Kelleymuro]

I've been looking around and haven't really gotten a clear answer to where I can buy 8mm film for the Kodak Brownie camera.

Can anyone point me in the direction to where I might find some?

[ct92404]

Sure. You'll need to get Regular 8mm movie film. (Sometimes it's also called "Double-Run" 8mm). I order my film from Dwayne's Photo in Parsons, Kansas. They have a website, but YouTube blocks links, so I can't give the address for the website here. Just do a Google search for "Dwayne's Photo." You'll want to buy the 25 foot spool of Ektachrome 100D film. I'm pretty sure I mentioned Dwayne's Photo in the first video. Did you watch Part 1?

[ct92404]

...and there are a lot of other places where you can buy it too. There's one place in California that I know of, called "Spectra Film and Video." They have all kinds of 8mm, 16mm, and Super-8 movie film. But I usually buy my film from Dwayne's.

[ant02fer04gon06]

Hello, than you very much. I´ve just found a Brownie camara with a film inside. I don´t know if it is exposed. is it necessary to load the film in a dark room?

thank you again from Spain

[ct92404]

No, you don't have to use a dark room. It just has to be "subdued" light. Just turn off the lights, or use dim lighting and that should be fine. In fact, you could probably even load the film in the camera outside, if you were in the shade under a tree or something. The spool protects the film from light. You just can't have direct, bright light hitting the film.

[ant02fer04gon06]

In another blog, you say that you can use Ektachrome 100D film in this cameras. When can I get that film in USA?

Thanks again

Please, excuse my english

[ct92404]

Actually, it's available right now. You'll probably have to order it online. I know a few places where you can order it in the US, although I don't know how much the shipping would cost to send it to where you live :(

[ant02fer04gon06]

Please, notice me the places where i can get it. The shipping cost are not high.

[krazyk82]

would ektachrome 64T film work in this camera? or any other super8 reversal films.. like plus-x or tri-x? having to flip the film over is confusing me. thanks if anyone can help!

[ct92404]

Super-8 and Regular 8mm ("double run")film are NOT compatible. Super-8 is a catridge film, and Regular 8mm uses spools. Also, the sprockets are different.

[ct92404]

...and it's really not that confusing. It's not as hard as it looks. Once you've used a Regular 8mm camera, it's super easy to do and you'll get used to it. You only have to flip the spools over once, and the shafts are made so that it won't let you put the spools on wrong, and so you won't double expose the film by mistake. It's really easy to use and it's pretty much idiot proof.

[davesnijder]

i want one of these cameras too but im not from america and i searched on ebay and theyre quite cheap around 10 dollars but the shipping costs are more then the camera itself so were these also for sale in europe? or manufactured or something like that and do they still sell/develop in europe and if not how much will it cost for me to buy/develop the film from america?? and remember im 14 so i have to ask everything to my parents omfg:P....

[ct92404]

yeah, there were 8mm movie cameras manufactured in Europe (the Bolex camera is Swiss). And there are people in Europe who still like to film with 8mm as a hobby. If you search on eBay again, see if you can change the country and just limit it to locations closer to you. Also, try looking for cameras in antique shops. Also, do you have thrift shops where you live? They're where you can find old, used things for cheap...I don't know what you would call them in Holland.

[ct92404]

...for film, I don't where you could get it in Europe, but I'm sure you can get 8mm film there too. If you bought a roll of 8mm film here, it would cost about $17, and then I don't how much the shipping would be. Just try doing a search on Google, for like "8mm" and "Europe"  or "Holland" and see if there are any places where you can order it where you live. I really don't know that much about where you can get things in Europe. I'm sure you can, I just don't know

[davesnijder]

ok i will search better on ebay

[ct92404]

...oh hey, try looking on a website called "small format." It's a magazine for people who like to film in 8mm and Super-8. The magazine is based in Germany and the website is in English and German. See if you can email someone there and maybe they can tell you where you can get 8mm film in Europe or where you live. Message me and I'll give you a link to the website.

[davesnijder]

0 resultaten gevonden. We hebben daarom gezocht in internationale aanbiedingen

wich means that it found 0 objects in europe and thats not even holland so i guess i have to pay round 30 euros for a 8 mm camera

[WhiteWoodEnt]

Thank you!

[tommiegreen]

This is 'WhiteWoodEnt'. That's just my company's page (Check out our films). This is my personal page. I DO have a question though. Since I LEFT that comment, I've been searching ALL OVER Yahoo and Google for a website that sells double 8MM film. That website that you suggested doesn't exist. Send me a message linking me to where you buy your film from. Thank you.

[ct92404]

I'll leave a comment here and send you a message, since I noticed that they changed their website. YouTube won't let me put a website address in comments, but just look on Google for "Dwayne's Photo" in Parsons, Kansas. It's the same place, but they just apparently don't use the "k14" name anymore. That's strange though that you're having trouble finding places that sell 8mm film. I found a bunch. Also, try Spectrum Film and Video in Hollywood, CA. They sell double 8mm and Super-8 film.

[tommiegreen]

I found a website called 'My Old Camera' and bought some. Thanx!