Derren Brown The Events No 1 Predicting the Lottery - The Event 1

[deLord1337]

I must say that this tricks is two different things.

Wisdom of crowds on the one hand, which is all nice and so on.

And a "cheap" trick on the other side. Either it has to do with the sync, or it is just splitscreen (which would be VERY poor for Derren's standards) or I don't know. At least, I am 100% sure the numbers on the balls on the plinth were not there before they were read. Anyway, I am pretty sure they need more than 1 sec to exchange the balls, which makes it nice - if it is this case

[deLord1337]

Having thought about this, there are several aspects

Sure wisdom of the crowds is working. And what they did until DERREN wrote down (random) numbers in the other room was all OK and he was lucky to get 4 out of 6 (maybe by using some maths).

Each drawing of the lottery numbers is physically and mathematically independant from the last one. So it is IMPOSSIBLE to predict these numbers if you dont know every variable of the machine (which the people didnt).

So, believing in this myself firstly...

[MrOnairos]

you are awesome for uploading DB's videos, thanks!

[computersolutions164]

Thanks - you're welcome

[sq7]

look carefully from 5:45 onwards, the first ball floated upwards. Was it a split screen? are the balls changed?

[computersolutions164]

Can't say I noticed the first ball move myself. the balls were in a far shot for most of the time and you cannot make out whether any of the balls have moved or not, he does not reveal the balls until the end, you do not get a close up of the balls at the beginning. More likely a rigged plinth.

[sonicmandx12]

@computersolutions164 THATS WHAT SHE SAID.

I'm so sorry.

But that was too easy. WAY too easy. I couldn't pass this up.

[computersolutions164]

@sonicmandx12 lol !

[PlyLilian]

huh, where?

[thelastofthemohicans]

Did you see the man in a gorilla suit walk on to the stage and write the correct numbers on the balls?

[computersolutions164]

You've see Derren live too then........

Gorillas and Bananas - lol....

[explosivecreativity]

Really don't think it was a camera trick or anything less than genuine. When he starts this promo up he claims that he's only going to get five out of the six for sure, the logical progression from when they got 1, then 3, then 4 numbers, right?

Most of his tricks rely on psychology. Why would he call it a year of his life? He's done the "trick" over and over, making sure that by week four he'll always have five out of six of the numbers.

Keep up the amazing posts!

[bbbbbb222222]

HOLY DINOSAUR'S DICKS!

[computersolutions164]

what is interesting about Derren this time is that if you look up the "Wisdom Of The Crowds" explanation it is true and I am not just talking Wikipedia, which gets things wrong. I looked at 3 sources which seem to not only back up what Derren says but go further explain different sorts of "Crowd Wisdom". This might explain why lottery syndicates do better than individuals. All we need now is a really big prize and a huge syndicate.

[computersolutions164]

All parts are there for you folks - next weeks show looks good - I will no doubt be glued to my seat

....If Derren has anything to do with it....

[Brewmaster757]

anyone else see tonights show??

im sad to say that im disappointed :( i mean, he obviously did the fix!!

if it was the willpower of the people then obviously he wud of proved that its real cos its only a theory, and there wud of been a lot more attention to it from scientists etc. and it wasnt a very hard experiment so why havtn dey done it before themselves?

[554466551]

Remember, Derren himself described The Events as "4 acts of misdirection."

I enjoyed Derren's explanation as an exercise in enthralling storytelling. Watch with that in mind and you can kick back and enjoy the ride he's taking us on. Once he's done, then you can try to figure out what was really going on and if any clues were dropped along the way.

I particularly liked going back and seeing him say he didn't fix the draw. Twice! That's what liars do. I think Derren did that intentionally.

[computersolutions164]

I like the bit right at the end:

"We could have had some lottery balls made which were 20g heaqvier than the real ones (which we didn't) then we could have got our informant (which I did not) etc.................(It;s ridiculous !!!)"

Like a naughty schoolchild being told off for something he might or might not have done perhaps - but didn't - maybe !

lol

[Brewmaster757]

yea i changed my mind, he didnt do the fix.

sadly im actually being persuaded by the split screen theory :(

[computersolutions164]

I don't think it was split screen. Split screen would not need any permission from Camelot. I think that both the BBC and Channel 4 both delayed the signal by the same amount at the same time, thereby preserving the BBC's right to broadcast the result live first - both feeds would appear to be in sync even though in reality the draw had already taken place a minute or so before - so it like "Almost Live".

Either that or the plinth was rigged to somehow put the numbers on the balls

[computersolutions164]

You could always get the whole set of results for the last year from Camelot's website in Excel Spreadsheet form. It would be easy to work out the averages for every ball and then bet on those numbers to see if Derren did actually predict the balls - doubtful though

[computersolutions164]

He would have bee locked up had he fixed the lottery - it's owned by the Queen and operated og her behalf by Shamalot er sorry Camelot !

[computersolutions164]

Fixing the lottery would have been illegal -

I reckon the plinth on which his predicted balls sit has a lot to do with it, either that or the delay which was also done at the BBC AND Channel 4 AT THE SAME TIME. So both would appear to be in sync with each other, even though the lottery had already been drawn.

[computersolutions164]

I did email Mike, Derren's manager to see if he could get Derren to give me next week's numbers.

LOL

[fearlab]

he just used a nonverbal spell.  I think most fourth year wizards can do that.

[computersolutions164]

Are you a Hogwarts 4th year wizard by any chance

[bordonthestreet]

Woo! Ohh Captain my captain! I really hope you can capture tomorrow's little tidbit!

[computersolutions164]

I will try

[brainsenburn]

wow. that's amazing.

[inchazon]

will you upload the explication?

[computersolutions164]

Yes !

[inchazon]

awesome!! :D

[8thfakegod]

ty for sharing computer

[computersolutions164]

You're welcome - more tonight or maybe tomorrow

[computersolutions164]

I wonder if the feed from the BBC although live, was delayed through to Channel 4. If the same BBC delay was sent out nationwide then Derren could get the numbers in advance theoretically. It would however take the participation of the BBC for it to work though, hence the meeting with Camelot - maybe.

Anyone got any other ideas ?

[Clausfarre]

He's back!!!! Yay!

Thanks for sharing for friend.

[computersolutions164]

You're welcome friend - just wait till tomorrow and we will find out how he did it. I did it in Wide screen for you lot - After all Derren deserves it.

[Clausfarre]

You are a king among men!

[streat7]

Awesome!Great Job Derren Brown!

[NaTaSBlood]

I hope you get him explaining it up too haha.

[computersolutions164]

Wild horses wouldn't stop me !!!

[NaTaSBlood]

WOOHOO

[DakotaZ162]

Epic.