Testimony: Profiles in Faith - David Berkowitz - 3 of 4

[TheSuarve]

He has pulled a fast one!

[sryen7]

Let him go see what happens

[Butchymartin]

Awesome

[anyi322]

@noelpeace Amen. Well said. I wish people would see that their righteousness is like filty rags. They do not see that they are capable of doing the same awful crimes this man committed. Thank you Jesus Christ for forgiveness. I am so thankful when I was yet a sinner, He died for me!!

[DicksonsVixen]

Bless his heart. God is so good! Praise the lord. I am so proud to call him my brother in Christ!

[stardustandbeyond]

I truly believe he is a changed man. Completely rehabilitated. Sometimes I think people like him should have a chance for a normal life again. One of the victim's parents was able to forgive him, so I think society should find it in their hearts to give him another chance.

[natsnats100]

@noelpeace correction there...you wont be in heaven with "son of sam" at all..cos he is no more son of sam but renewed son of God "child of God' praise God! God is indeed merciful and forgiving

[sohappyIcouldshit]

what a joke

[mjjcng8958]

he wasnt alone. it is so hard for me to believe he did all these things by himself. i could be worng

[stoopidmunkee1021]

absolutely beautiful story.

[MrClarkkent2001]

all have sinned and come short of the glory of God the father, just because people don't do outwardly what these people have done that doesn't mean they are not guilty of the same sins of the heart. some grew in a circumstance that caused those wicked seeds in the heart to bear the fruit of murder on the outward, but everyman has these same seeds and are guilty before a Living God. means we should all repent and ask God for forgiveness.

[totalannihilator99]

Nice cover, David. They should free you with a loaded 45 among young pawing couples on a summer evening....

[MrClarkkent2001]

@totalannihilator99

all have sinned and come short of the glory of God the father, just because people don't do outwardly what these people have done that doesn't mean they are not guilty of the same sins of the heart. some grew in a circumstance that caused those wicked seeds in the heart to bear the fruit of murder on the outward, but everyman has these same seeds and are guilty before a Living God. means we should all repent and ask God for forgiveness.

[lhcarter]

Wow, God truly does save to the uttermost. It's the grace of God, divine unmerited favor. Even the apostle (St.) Paul had killed Christians before his conversion on the road to Damascus.

[prowily1]

WOW you must be responding to alot of coments here who agree alike. Im so sorry your lost maybe you can visit D.B and he can teach you the sinners prayer.

[prowily1]

Ill tell you the truth David has repented and has been saved and hes on his way to heaven. But for those who dont see it that way and can not forgive him for what he did includeing the victums famlies have no place in heaven for there unforgiveness. The word of God teaches that. Mat 6:14-15

[djcrimmins]

OH MY GOD!!!! Are you people Mentally ill, fine you love the bible, but coming on here and saying something like that about the victims families is totally insane... you really are deluded by your beliefs! Please say this comment is a joke?

[MrClarkkent2001]

@djcrimmins all have sinned and come short of the glory of God the father, just because people don't do outwardly what these people have done that doesn't mean they are not guilty of the same sins of the heart. some grew in a circumstance that caused those wicked seeds in the heart to bear the fruit of murder on the outward, but everyman has these same seeds and are guilty before a Living God. means we should all repent and ask God for forgiveness.

[InertiaFilms]

The central theme of this video is that anyone can find forgiveness for any and ALL their sins--even someone as evil as David Berkowitz. That is the free offer from Christ. This video has presented that central message. You are free to accept or reject that, but now you cannot say you have never hear that message of forgiven for all that ask.

[djcrimmins]

Dear InertiaFilms, i was thinking about going on a bit of a rampage, but i still fancy goin to Heaven, so just to check, as long as i 'find god' when im done, blame the whole thing on Satan, and make a DVD about it ive got myself a VIP pass? Sorry to be a pain, i just dont fancy the sound of this Hell place... Cheers

[treezX]

this is hard to watch..i dont like it..i dont like that you can murder people and get to continue breathing after being caught

[MrmisfitsFiend138]

Is he still in jail

[lhcarter]

Yes, he is still in jail and not even asking for parole because he accepts the consequences for what he did.

[acoow]

He isn't merely not asking for parole. He has written a letter to the Governor of New York saying that he does not want parole because he is exactly where he belongs. The only reason for him to fake his conversion is to look good to the parole board.

[justklsi]

He hung on a cross for all mankind, the "good" and the murderer. If someone is beyond salvation, then Christ failed.

Trust me. He didn't.

[justklsi]

Who do you think is beyond the saving grace of Christ? Didn't Paul before his conversion see to the death of as many Christians as possible? If Jesus can't save David Berkowitz then He's no Jesus at all.

[misterinspace]

and what good does this saving does? a murderer in prison can live with himself... you are not refering to the lives lost and families destroyed. where is jesus there?

[misterinspace]

I need to do more research? I have done my research about D.B, and I know the families of the victims live those cruel motiveless murders every day. they werent given the "free will to chose" that you so blissfuly talk about. the man who created this sorrow for so many people should die in prison away from the limelight, and not be glorified for anything. and i find it disgusting that the church uses him to get more scumbags who have a hard time dealing with what they did in life into the church

[AbbyBouvier]

God gave people free will to chose, if god had helped those people and forced what he wanted to happen apon David B. that would take away our free will and force everybody into a peaceful relationship with God, instead we are not forced which gives people the ability to create evil acts, God aches for those people, but they were the price of a fallen man. and God never helped this idiot, this idiot will have to pay for his sins on judgement day.. maybe you should do a little more research

[justklsi]

What has he got to lose? What has he got to gain?

He'll never get out.

Where was God when these people were killed?

The same place He was when His Son was hung on a cross for you.

I have a friend who has met David face to face.

The change is real.

[misterinspace]

wow you have a firend who met him? is he like a pilgrimage site now? do u realize that your friend went to visit a mass murderer who destroyed the lives of families for ever for no reason? and took pride in it while he was doing it? and you stand up for him because "the change is real"??? if this is what belief in christ brings you then i pitty you. my friend, you are not saved, you are mislead.

[zoooobic]

amazing grace,that save a wretched like me,i was once lost,but now im found,was blind,but now i see...GOD indeed is alive and evr powerfull,believe in HIM and thou shall be save!!!!

[SearchingYT]

David Berkowitz deserves a torturous death.

[Emochildmcr]

Wow i even wanna cry when i see this.Poor david.his entire life he was decieved by the people he was around.This man really deserved some loving from god.And he got some.I actually wanted to convert from athiesm to christianity when i read one of his blogs on his site.He begged everybody to be like gods child.I wanna be gods child.David Berkowitz is son of hope.This man is my hero.And im only 13.

[InertiaFilms]

Yes, David is a changed man by the grace of God. But I encourage you to let Christ be your hero, not DB.

[Emochildmcr]

hahaha dont worry InertiaFilms im not gunna go around goin nuts! thats my moms job lol

[SearchingYT]

Your hero is David Berkowitz? What a retard

[Emochildmcr]

aparently if ur ranting to a 13 year old u pretty much have autism.enjoy your life.

[SearchingYT]

is that so? whatever weirdo

[justklsi]

I have a friend who's met David face to face and eye to eye. He says there's no doubt David is now God's child.

David always declines to even appear before the parole board every time he comes up. He also receives no money or compensation from any book or video about him.

[HesTNTonPMS]

Just so we're clear to anyone who thinks david is just saying this stuff to get out of jail early or get parole , he is serving 6 consecutive life sentences, overlapping , so he knows in his heart he is never going to get out of prison no matter how many times he will come up for parole, that is just a formality .

I was only 6 or 7 years old, living in Queens when these murders were happening and I have never been able to forget them, I do believe God can change a mans heart and mind

[HesTNTonPMS]

And if all it did was change one life, then Gods work has been done.

We may never know what that one life that was changed , was capable of doing .

Anyone that knows anything about people, knows the eyes are the window to the soul, you yourself could look into someones eyes and detect if they are genuine , sometimes and most often you have to hit rock bottom before you turn around, sometimes you never get the chance, I am not a fool and you can not fool me , God is using David 4 Good

[HesTNTonPMS]

People just can not believe that God can change a person , these are the very same people that don't believe in God .

One thing is for certain there are countless lives this mans testimony has changed , someone out there changed their life around.

[eydos]

Good tactic.

[Ajntb2Sli]

steviebennie. I can understand your sentiments about Berkowitz. But what does middle class have anything to do with anything? maybe you have a problem with middle class people. Like you resent them or something.

[Ajntb2Sli]

even your anal warts.

[JesusIsLordForever]

because it's often when life is the worst that are hearts can't get any more broken and that's when you're open enough to let God and take over

[Presidentjh]

Hey, I know it is unlikely, but come on. He's not getting out anytime soon. Why hold hatred towards someone? What good will it do?

[Ikunia1982]

One of the family member forgive him?wooow one what about the rest?Would you forgive him if that was your sister or wife?He should have been executed !

[Ajntb2Sli]

Yes, I believe he should have been executed. He murdered people and he should indeed, according to the Bible, should be executed. But I believe everything happens for a reason, and there is NO such thing as luck. God had a purpose for this man. We don't know what that might be, and we (as Christians) cannot question his testimony. We shall know by his fruits. His fruits show genuine. WE have all sinned. A murderer is no different than a liar, in God's eyes. God gives mercy to everyone!

[Presidentjh]

It's sad, the people who are atheists scoff at this. What's so wrong about him converting? He's not getting out of prison, he doesn't want out, he says he deserves prison for life.

I think this is great.

[Ikunia1982]

This guy is evil dont u forget about that...

[Presidentjh]

"was" evil. "was"

[InertiaFilms]

those that are born again will also be in heaven with the Apostle Paul--a serial killer of Christians, Moses- a murderer, and King David--a murderer and adulterer. We are saved by grace through the faith and that not of our yourself. It is the gift of God.

[tapatiadecorazon]

how inspiring Jesus can heal anything

[shitdood]

I never got why people watched a video about Religion then bashed it, or the person in the video.

He seems like he really means everything he says, and seems like a really nice dude.

[Soundgardener80]

He seems convincing thats all i can say

[InertiaFilms]

you are certainly entitled to your opinion. thanks for watching.

[KanadskiDalmatinac]

Volnar, you nailed it on the head. Organized religion is the reason that there is so much destruction in the world today. I can't blame Berkowitz for falling for this junk because what else is he going to do in prison for next 50 years....shank people?

[InertiaFilms]

So, may i ask you, where you get your sense of "right" & "wrong"? what makes what Berkwitz did "wrong"? What makes whatAdolf Hitler did "wrong"? what determines if an action is "acceptable" or "not acceptable"? What is your source of "goodness" and "badness"?

[Ajntb2Sli]

your hostility towards religion is showing. I wonder why?

[Ajntb2Sli]

Berkowitz is not excusing his actions, and neither should Christians. He committed the crime and he very well should suffer the consequences. Hey, it wasn't his fault that New York doesn't believe in the Death Penalty. So now because he's in prison, he has time to read. Unlike some who have posted here that have no clue about Religion, much less Christianity. They have nothing but time to spend in prison, that's why these guys are able to turn a new leaf.

[volnarbalrung]

The whole problem with most monotheistic religions is that they makes you feel inferior and dependent on a "higher being" whose existence can only be verified by a priest reading from a "holy book." This layout of religious belief probably rose out of a need to control the barbaric populations roaming the Eurasian continent after the fall of Rome. I'm no religious theologian, but that's what I see from this. The only reason religions limit you from doing something is for control. Simple as that.

[damerz0405]

Inertia you believe in fairy tales.....the only reason you want to believe Jesus saved this guy is because it reaffirms your faith (which is based on fairy tales) . Jesus did set some good examples but the whole "being saved" thing is just complete nonsense. All you do is add confusion to the equation with your ignorance. These convicts likely use"being saved" to help them get out of prison early.

[Ajntb2Sli]

Berkowitz will never get out of prison.

[dionusos2]

Most serial killers became Christian. This fool, Bundy, Manson, Dalhmer. They were always crazy and still are. It tells you a lot about Christianity...

[InertiaFilms]

Not sure you can come to a conclusion that "most serial killers became Christian" by a looking a sample of four serial killers.

However, that there are serial killers tells us a lot about humanity and our sin nature. Christianity gives us hope that anyone's sin can be forgiven.

And, I've never heard anything about Charles Manson becoming a Born-again Christian.

[junk4cash]

coo cooo !!!!!! tell the family members of the people you shot in cold blood. Schmuck. Die die die !!!

[Presidentjh]

junk4cash, one of the family members of his victims actually forgave Berkowitz.

They have forgiven him, why can't you?

[InertiaFilms]

Do you enjoy your freedom in the country that our nation's Founding Fathers said could not survive with Jesus Christ?

[InertiaFilms]

Thank you for sharing your opinions. So what does a person do to deserve hell? Or, the real question is, what determines if a person goes to heaven or hell?

[streetswell]

So, the guy who called one of his victims a whore in court has suddenly "found Jesus"? What a joke. Religious conversion once you're in trouble is one of the oldest scams in the book.

[InertiaFilms]

So how do we know whether Berkowitz's conversion is a "scam"? Well, I would offer that Berkowitz hasn't "suddenly found Jesus". In fact it has been 21 years since Christ found him.

[dionusos2]

it's still a scam even if he believes. he did it out of attrition, as many christians do. that's why christianity is unbelievable. it has to scare and bribe people into believing. anyone with no hope will turn to anything that promises something.

[Alphantis]

Do you realise Berkowitz always has said that he still dosent deserve to leave prison. so if he thinks that why would they let him go and why would he even pretend to be christain! he is genuine!

[redbuffalo15]

not like he's getting out. no chance in hell moron.

[streetswell]

True, but volunteering for prison church services while towing the Jesus line will get him better treatment inside, plus the attention and sympathy that narcissistic sociopaths like him crave.

[InertiaFilms]

sorry, i don't know who that is.

[CallMeHost]

Its truly amazing that humans can change this much because of something that doesn't or most likely does not even exist.

He fooled himself into happiness, I think that religion has some good but it definitely has it faults. If believing in something that isn't there or proven can make you happy, who I am I to tell you to stop that.

[acoow]

I know you left this comment over a year ago, but if I show you something in the Bible that has come true today, will you believe?

[johnnythesailorman]

okay so david berkowitz kills a number of unsaved souls and they go to hell meanwhile berkowitz finds jesus in prison and he gets saved and gets to walk with god for eternity while his victims are tortured in hell? not to mention mahatma ghandi whos only crime to my knowlege was being hindu

[InertiaFilms]

Great point! David Berkowitz deserves to go to hell. I deserve to go to hell. Ghandi, those unsaved souls, Hitler, Mother Teresa, Saddam Hussein, Mel Gibson and everyone who has ever lived deserves hell for our sins.

Therefore it is only by God's grace (unmerited favor from God) that anyone goes to heaven. Some repent of their sins, and some don't. That's the difference.

[gonindunit]

The Bible says that "all the angels in Heaven rejoice" each time a soul is saved. Sounds like they're having a great time Up There.

[gonindunit]

By talking like this, you are promoting that same spirit of death and hate. - Forgiveness brings peace of mind. Ask Jesus to help you.

[InertiaFilms]

Finkman, thanks for the post. I think you might have missed the point. The point is not to "glamorize" David Berkowitz, far from it. The point, as David makes clear, is to glamorize Jesus Christ.

You obviously believe in hell. So why do you think Berkowitz will "rot in hell"? What makes a person go to hell and others not go to hell?

[dionusos2]

"You obviously believe in hell. So why do you think Berkowitz will "rot in hell"? What makes a person go to hell and others not go to hell?" apparently honesty. Berkowitz wants to save his ass in the afterlife, so he gets to go to heaven. meanwhile, billions of people who have done no harm to others will rot in hell forever because they didn't bow before the dictator, your god. some great religion you have.

[InertiaFilms]

Hard to know where to start with your comments.

1. So, "apparently honesty" is what condemns people to hell??? Not sure I follow you there.

2. Billions have "done no harm to others"? Not sure what that means--and it is certainly not true. Everyone has "harmed" someone else by lies, rudeness, sellfish, hate, stealing, harshness, etc.

3. Christ claims to be the only way to heaven. By definition, it is either true, or not true, but not both. That is an amazing God.

[InertiaFilms]

David will never get parole. Interestingly, David says he doesn't deserve parole and tried to avoid even going before the parole board in 2002. In NY it is manitory to go before the parole board after 25 years in prison.

[1BroMark]

No.

Heaven? Yes.

[Chucknute]

yesss im going to hell

[gonindunit]

That's your prerogative.

[tiove]

HALLELUJAH, getting goose pimples - praise the lord!!! YEE HAA!!!!

[InertiaFilms]

Agreed. We are born with a sin nature and thus we ...sin.

[InertiaFilms]

I agree with your points. One small clarification: unbelief in Christ is blasphamy against God--which is a sin. 

So, people go to hell because of their unbelief in Christ, which is a sin.

[MyPasswordIsUserName]

see that is my point, that is why christianity is a diseased religion and true christians like yourself dont deserve to live

1) Jew is killed in Nazi concentration camp, and he is burning in hell because he doesnt believe in Christ

2) Christian kills jew, yet he gets rewarded in heaven because he goes to church on Sunday and asks Christ for forgivness

yes you christians are truly the disease of humanity

[InertiaFilms]

i was hoping to have a civil discussion here. i was also hoping to determine where you get your sense of "right" "wrong", "good" & "bad."

[MyPasswordIsUserName]

what civil discussion, you believe people are going to hell if they dont believe in Christ yet someone can do whatever they want on earth and as long as they believe in Christ or find Christ in their life they are going to heaven

[InertiaFilms]

so what makes something "right" or "wrong"? what makes something civil or uncivil?

[InertiaFilms]

so, what makes something right or wrong? how did you determine that my beliefs are "wrong"?

[gonindunit]

What I have learned, as a Christian, is that Love is more important to God than justice.

[InertiaFilms]

Well, I would argue that God is a just God and therefore must punish sin. Punishing sin is to bring about justice. Christ hates sin.

Christ dying for our sin brought about justice and at the same time displayed His love for all that would believe. So love and justice are eternally linked.

[prowily1]

If he was a christian before the crimes thats a different story but he did nt have christ before he was into witchcraft he has found christ now... he aint getting out jail be hes not going to hell. What if you see him in heaven and he has a bigger reward then you what are you going to do then? Yell and argue to God about it.. Or what if he dosnt get a reward and just gets in and you see him what you gonna do then?

[gonindunit]

Jesus Words, "love God (Love) with all of your heart and Love your neighbor as yourself."

[Chucknute]

religion is for fools!

[MyPasswordIsUserName]

David Berkowitz, the spokesperson for the Christian, Murder 13 people and you are still forgive in the eyes of the lord

I bet President Bush loves this guy

[InertiaFilms]

Yes, forgiveness is the center of issue here. I needed forgiveness myself. If you are honest with yourself then you have done things wrong as well. Just one sin (lying, stealing, coveting, lusting, murder, gossip, slander, etc) make you a sinner in need of forgiveness from a Holy God.

If you don't believe in God, that doesn't mean He doesn't exist and, further, that you won't be held accountable.

For the record David plead guilty to six murders. Not sure of the Bush connection.

[MyPasswordIsUserName]

Bush probably asks god for forgivness or thinks he is right in the eyes of the lord for killing all those people

And the sad thing about you people is, you think someone who lived a good life is burning and suffering in hell because they dont believe in god, yet someone like Berkowitz who murdered 13 innocent people, is on his way to heaven to be with christ because is forgiven in the eyes of the lord

The real sad thing is you people have complete control of this once great country

[InertiaFilms]

Well, i could make a lot of points but let's get to the heart of the matter. Many questions for you.

Who determines "someone that lived a good life"? What determines a "good life" from a "bad life"? Where do you get your sense of "right" & "wrong"? Does everyone decide for himself?

And who are "you people" that have control of this once great country? That would be an interesting answer considering our country's historical background.

[robtuk31]

Thank God that He has set this man free from his past crimes. He can be an inspiration to all those in prison.

[Johnkim510]

Think of all the justified anger, hatred, and disgust of this man, felt by the public and the victims families, and the punishment he deserves. And then imagine that God poured out all this wrath and anger and punishment against his own son.

[InertiaFilms]

Great point.

Now imagine that, according to scripture, each of us is exactly like Berkowitz in the eyes of God.(Romans chapter 3). And, yet, through Christ we can be justified and made holy. A mind-blowing thought.

[fed1945]

just a psycopat manupulating the public opinion. Late for you dave, you will burn in hell!

[InertiaFilms]

So, in your opinion, what exactly is it that causes people to "burn in hell"? Is it murder only or other things as well?

[cirexlab]

Is hard to accept it, but is true. God forgive everyone who seek him, even criminals. Thats the love of God, he can forgive sins.

[InertiaFilms]

I think maybe you missed the part where David says, regarding forgiveness, that he is the most deserving person on the face of the earth. He also says is a "murderer" and "a criminal."

He also plead guilty to murder in the first degree which is an admission of guilt.

So, I would say he has accepted and admitted he is a murderer.

[RCA76]

So you mean to tell me just because he's "accepted and admitted" his guilt and "found" God, now everything's ok? Tell that to the families of the victums!

[InertiaFilms]

We are talking about two different things here.

In this life, David has admitted and accepted that he is a murderer. The lives and families that he has affected will never be the same. In this lifetime it will never be "okay."

The other issue is one of eternity. He has found forgiveness through His son, Jesus Christ. This is achieved through true repentence for one's sins, including murder.

[robtuk31]

God will raise every person back to life at the resurrection when Christ returns "each man in his own order".

[prowily1]

Why dont we just let God tell em. It dosnt matter what the families of the victims think. Its a possibiltiy that they are not saved. And if they still unforgiven after all those years then David wont see them in heaven. And if they do forgive him well then there is no ptoblem then. It goes the same for the victims them selves there is a possibility there werent saved. Think about.

[InertiaFilms]

Thank you for the encouragement. David's central message is that no one is beyond God's grace and mercy. Anyone can be regenerated and receive forgiveness for his or her sins.

[TOPUTE]

question...why arnt u dead yet? am sure u still would get your self a 44 and blow some more heads off

[TOPUTE]

yup thats the truth i gota agree witht hat bro. well put

[bigbill1991]

Surprised he was not taken out in prison. Must be something about him.

[InertiaFilms]

Another inmate did attempt to murder David in prison in 1979 at Attica. Today David has a huge 8" scar along his neck as a reminder of the attack.

[bigbill1991]

Was he stabbed or sliced an how did he survive?

[InertiaFilms]

In 1979 another prisoner wanted to kill the prison's most infamous prisoner, the "Son of Sam". So, he waited with a prison shank (crude knife) and cut David's throat from his left ear to mid throat.

David lost so much blood that they thought he would surely die. However, by God's grace he survived. The prison guard in our documentary, Bob Alexander, held a towel to David's throat to help stop the bleeding.

[bigbill1991]

David got lucky. Maybe God had a purpose for him even after all he did. I have been intrested In Berkowitz story for years ever since I saw the 1999 movie and heard the story. Thanks so much for the input.

[InertiaFilms]

Thanks for watching. David's story definately is an interesting one.

[bigbill1991]

I wonder can he turn around or has he after doing so much evil.

[Sizz06]

The funniest thing about this is that he goes "I could slap myself in the face for believing something so stupid." He's a weak mind who just wants to believe in something. All of these people that are so proud of him for converting.. he was just as easily converted to his beliefs that led him to murder.

[InertiaFilms]

I wouldn't really say that any of the people in the video are "proud of him (Berkowitz) for converting". Their/my hope is not in David Berkowitz, but rather in Christ who changed him.

Berkowtiz was a man devoid of anything good. Berkowitz is very clear in calling himself "the most undeserving person on earth."

So none of us are "proud" of Berkowitz or his conversion. We boast in the forgiving power of Christ.

[HazelHumph]

Thanks. I already was emphathising with them.

[clintrock]

he thinks the lord told him not to live with the guilt and sorrow of his deeds? Why is he allowed to participate in this church? PUNISH him!!! Take away that which matters most to him for what he did. I say put him in a room with pictures of his victims blown all apart. I have no sympathy for this devil.

[InertiaFilms]

Why would you pick a user name like "666taurus" and then rail against those that did evil in the name of satan? Makes no sense. Contradictory. Confusing.

[Maria259]

idk dude only god can make such miracle so it is believable cuz why would this guy be makin all of this up? it doesnt bendfit him a a huge way....

[hellspawnds]

Its so obvious that religion is false, its just about desperate people feeling "spiritual" when they for once gets approached by friendly individuals or when they start a life with activities (goin to church, reading bible etc.) This sense of well being is confused with "god intervening" in their lifes

[InertiaFilms]

I find it intriguing that you refer to religion as "false." False compared to what? If there is no God, then there is no moral truth; everyone is free to do whatever they want. So, there is no moral "false" or truth in your scenario. Rather, by calling religion "false" you have admitted there is truth.

[hellspawnds]

Of course there is no morale that automaticly applies to all, and all of us. We made that up along the way, cus it became convienient in a society to have moral "codexes" to encourage or prevent certain behaviours. I also ment "false" more in in a methaphorical way rather than as it was some kind of universal law - because, true or false, right or wrong - are all just opinions when we come down to it I'll admit that.

[InertiaFilms]

Thanks for the response and your honesty.

Since there is no universal moral code, then can I assume that you find no fault with the actions of Adolf Hilter, Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin, Saddem Hussein and Benito Mussolini ?

[hellspawnds]

I think you are aware that those are far fetched examples, but yes - even when it comes to those people, it's a matter of opinion. However, I do personally feel that what they did and stood for in many cases was horribly wrong. But, as said, thats only my opinion (Even though many share it). Still thousands of others disagree, and instead hail them.

[InertiaFilms]

I'm curious: how can you say that Hilter, Stalin, Mussolini, Pol Pot did anything wrong if there is no universal code of morality ?

My point is: you can't condemn them. If there is no moral absolute then they did nothing wrong.

On the other hand, I believe in moral absolutes. Murder is wrong for all people, in all places for all time. Therefore what Hilter did is evil/wrong.

[hellspawnds]

I can say it is my opinion that what they did was "wrong", but I'm not saying its downright wrong per se. (As some believe it is in a religious perspective for example.) You follow?

[InertiaFilms]

Yes, I follow what you are saying. However, it doesn't paint a reasonable, rational picture.

Under your scenario you cannot condemn the murderous actions of Hitler. You are saying that there are no moral absolutes. Of course, saying "There are no absolutes" is in itself an absolute. So, obviously there are absolutes.

[InertiaFilms]

Just to follow up a bit more. A society where there are no moral absolutes is one of absolute chaos (no pun intended).

Hitler, Stalin, Hussein, Castro committed crimes that violated moral absolutes like you shall not murder, steal, rape, rob, lying, etc.

With no moral absolutes anything goes. A person can murder a child, and no one can say "that's wrong." That is a frightening society much like Nazi Germany.

[HazelHumph]

What does God think about the 6 people whose lives he ended?

[lorrpoop]

WHAT?!

[BlessedVessel]

I know from personal experience, and based on Faith, that the Lord can heal, and reverse years of negativity and/or unhealthy behavior. Nothing is impossible for Him, if only we allow Him to work in our lives. :)

[1Vurgas1]

theres no way they are going to release him I hope, right?

[nterp1965]

ok they said that he was adopted and lived in new-york ive noticed the photos of him being arrested he strongly resembles Andrew Dice Clay maybe they are related and i do mean that genetically I know that were all children of God but thats NOT what i mean

[BlessedVessel]

Amen! The last sentence sums it up InertiaFilms. Truly nothing is impossible with God! Thank you for sharing this video with all of us. :)

[InertiaFilms]

you are very welcome. Thanks for the comments.

[BlessedVessel]

I pray this isn't a ploy to decrease prison time, or improved behavior simply because David has not been around women without supervision. However, if he is saved, all I can say is welcome home brother. The Lord loves you and so do we. I pray we meet after the Lord returns. The Lord is forgiving and merciful. God Bless.

[InertiaFilms]

David has actually stated that he doesn't deserve parole. He wrote a letter stating such to then-NY Governor Pataki. In fact, he tried to not even meet with the parole board in 2002. However, his meeting with the NY parole board is mandatory for life sentences after 25 years of imprisonment. David is serving a mandatory 356 year sentence and has no chance of getting out of prison. My faith, however, is not in David's conversion, but the One that is the Author of David's conversion.

[northportman]

nah this has gone on for years now. this isnt a flash in the pan. and he says he doesnt want to be released. its pretty amazing.

[LilBoo777]

WOW!!! Awesome story, we have a awesome God!!! Nothing is impossible for God. This man is a new man, the old Sam is dead. Glory to God!!!

[InertiaFilms]

Thanks for the encouragement. Yes, our Lord is amazing !