This behavior is typical when someone puts on a uniform and a badge . Try practicing free speech in this country and see how fast you end up beaten and jailed . Law enforcement has gotten way out of hand , police officers are the most hated people in America. Take a trip to WVA a see how the MEAN GREEN treat you, You want ruthless ,these boys will show you what it means in realtime .
Has anyone walked around any major UK city on a weekend night? They disgrace themselves constantly. I have never seen so many drunk and naked people fighting throwing up and pissing in the street. Dublin, Glasgow, or London. You can find plenty of fine trashy specimen walking around in droves.
I dont understand why is it ok for you to film the minor and not for the scientologist? You guys cant make your own law and rules, then what about equality for the law?
That was a very weird and unfair behaviour, and thats definitely not the way to win any game. The only way to win is to play fair all the way through.
@globe255 It was filmed by the family from Scotland and they were reacting to the security goons that were filming them. You don't think a family member can film his own family, and you think that's weird compared to the cult trying to intimidate them with camera toting security guards? Huh
In sweden we have laws that makes it illegal to film a child/minor Without the parents consent. For quite obvius reasons really, i mean you dont want some weird old man in a coat filming your baby at the swing in a park for half an hour do ya?
Dont really know the laws in other cuntrys that well, but i guess its similer. and if thats the case the one holding this camera probobly had the fathers consent.
$cilon$ brains fry as soon as they have to think. I'll give them the 1,000 yard stare and all, but coupled with the brain of a fry cook from Burger King....no critical thinking skillzzzzz.
I don't like scientology, but come on, the scotish kid & mates were complete tits. Firstly, it's basically the paparazzi rule, filming in public is legal. Secondly, why make such a fuss for fuck's sake. The guards are only following guidelines and indeed are highly unlikely to follow scientology themselves. Lastly, you can't expect to film strangers and then complain when they film you in a public area. Its easy to go prepared for a verbal onslaught & win if the others are not prepared. Grow up.
Only a couple of problems with your logic mate - the security guards are scientologists and they were using their cameras as a form of intimidation; obviously the tactic was an epic failure. Also, when you use a phase like, "I don't like Scientology, but", it sometimes means just the opposite. It's a transparent defensive mechanism; like the racist who says he's got black friends just before he starts ranting about blacks. But to be fair, what don't you like about Scientology?
It's the whole Alien, Financial, Brainwashing, etc, etc, thing about it.
'Transparent defensive mechanism'! What? Er, no. It means exactly what it says, no subliminal meanings or messages.
How do you know that the guards were scientologists? Besides, it doesn't matter, the fact is simply filming public areas is nota crime, it seems the paranoia of this little scottish numpty won the day, and made him look a tool in my opinion.
If you want to go around filming minors that is prorogative, just remember if you are slapped on the sex register as a phedophile then it is your own fault. Come to the UK and try it here see what happens, your ass would be in slammer.
I think we both know that the scientology geezer was filming them to annoy them just as they were doing the other way, it's nothing to do with paedophilia. This lad is just one of those know-it-all's (probably a student?) who thinks he's intellectually sharper than everyone else.
If the family stopped filming when asked then it wouldn;t have got to this far would it?
It has everything to do with it. As I said come over to the UK and trie do th same thing, they would be arrested by now, either cautioned or put on trial.
That family were tourists, unless the security guards wanted to provoke an international incident. I certainly would not think they would want to. And how do you know that he is not a peadophile? Do you know the security guards?
Well if some strange group of people were recording your home don't you think you'd have a right to record them back incase something happened in the future? What if a gang of teenagers were eyeing up your car? Should you not record them if you had the opportunity?
Anyway, regardless, i am just thinking that the gobshite lad doing all the talking is a complete pain in the arse, one of these that just like to hear their own voices.
That is why I have a telelphone, to phone the Police! Commonsence would tell anyone that. The father asked them to stop taking pictures/filiming his son. The boys father, gave no permission for those security guards to film him. They were well within thier rights to ask for the footage to be removed, Another thing he might be a gobshite, that Gobshite knows his rights. Well that is what happens when you argue with a Scottish Citizen, or we just give you a Glasgow Kiss!
I was under the impression that the kid/family were taking pictures of the Scientology place and did not stop when asked, so in return they were filmed to annoy them. That's how i seen it.
Did you watch the whole 8.04 minute of the Clip? 3:00 that Father tells the Dude with the camera "Dont point the camera at him", OMG Swearing at A 14Year old, oh how, big is the Security gurad.
Lets hope the security dude has removed the footage, if they have not, oh my there will be trouble. There is International as well as UK Laws against this. The Scottish Guy should have contacted the British Embassy, and ask them to deal with these scumbags. One is quite sure the UK Ambassador would not have been happy what so ever.
The Protection of Children Act (1978) covers cases of children filmed or otherwise displayed, in any form. It is an offence under that act: Those security guards broke international law, by filming this 14 year old. Without the parent permission,
What about all these 'Caught in the act' type crime programs that are on TV showing kids stealing cars, breaking windows, etc? They have to be filmed then faces blurred if aired. Yet these production firms do not get into trouble..... Never mind, let's just end this shit argument. That Scotish knob is annoying.
Your 'Scotish knob' comment aside (please edit that out), you're making a rather desperate comparison that has no relationship to what happened here. If the purpose of the TV show is to put cameras in the faces of law abiding minors in order to intimidate them, then we can compare apples to apples.
In addition that, private security guards must be licensed in the State of California and he's clearly violating the conditions of his license. His job ends at the private property line of the so called Church he works for; once he enters the public streets, he has zero business playing cop or goon in this case. After losing his license, he should find a new occupation, preferably where he doesn't have to interact with customers or play with cameras.
@DW01 I would just like to reply to you comment that we (Me, my brother, my father and my uncle) were 'filming their home'. I am the 14 year old boy in this video (now aged 16) and i can confirm for you that we were not filming their home. We had stopped to speak to the anon protesters and found ourselves caught up in the crossfire of their argument with the scientology thugs. Who proceed to hold their cameras in our faces solely because we had verbal contact with anon protesters. INJUSTICE!
@MyBigBud Regardless, no laws were broken were they? You were on a public right of way which means anybody can be caught on camera, how else do you think that celebrities have their children's photo's put in the newspapers?
I will repeat myself, i DO NOT AGREE with that they were doing, or with filming minors, but rather i argue whether it's legal or not.
PS If you listen to the kid doing the mouthing off you'd find most people would intentionally try to annoy him anyway, the Mr Knowitall.
@DW01 DW you've got it all wrong, filming the goons was a reaction brought on by being ambused and filmed by the goons for asking the protesters what they were doing. Also in the film the Scottish lad says he is 14, he was not a 'student' he was a secondary school kid.
@MyBigBud I think we all know that Scientology nutters don't like to be filmed, and guess what, this actually encourages people to film them. If they do that then they should expect to be filmed back... And oh, i don't agree with any of this but facts are that anyone can film anyone, or thing, if it is in public, unfortunately
Previous you said that the guards were following guidelines and NOW you admit they were attempting to annoy although the correct term is intimidation. A uniform wearing private security goon sticking a camera in your face is an action to induce fear not a slight irritation. Even as you claim not to like Scientology, you keep sounding like their public relations spinner.
I dont know if its policy/guidelines, or what the 'definite' reason is for the security cam, however, its an argument that goes both ways: A:"Please dont film me" B: "I will" A:"Then im gonna film you" B:"Stop that, he is only 14yrs old, why are you filming us", etc, blah, blah..
It's a petty argument and tit for tat if you ask me.
BTW, I have nothing at all to do with any religion/sect, i was merely leaving my views-which im obviously not allowed to seeing as there is censorship by yourself.
The guard is employed in a private security function and is required to abide by a license that is issued by the State of California. Even if you believe the teen was in the wrong, the license does not give him the authority to 'tit for tat', especially on a public street.
Security do not have any more powers than a citizen. Fact.
EVERYTHING is opinion, and expression of that is a factor that makes our Country('s) great, regardless of what it is.
A mountain has been made out of a mole hill in this debate, and i still stand by my opinion in that these nitwits seem like a bunch of nowitalls (listen to some of the pettyness)-Is there no argument that they should'nt have been filming the Scientology building when they know it is not permitted by the Scientology loons?
@marcymarie55 I do understand that and i agree it is morally wrong. However, looking at the reason as to why it was happening puts a different slant on it. Plus the fact that this little Scotish prick thinks he's a Mr Knowitall makes me just outright dislike him.
This is heresay and would in no way be admissable in...well..anything, but for what it's worth: Back in the early 90's Sharon Osbourne, yes, that Sharon Osbourne, allegedly moved her management offices because the Cult of Scientology store front located kitty corner would not stop filming and taking pictures of her clients and family, after repeated requests for them to stop. Now, think about this, they were taking pictures of people across the street and one block over, that's beyond ignorant.
i hate scientology also, but those guys are annoying as hell. they are insulting and bitching like 14 yearold teen girls. and that all because this guy is taping. wow. like there aint any security cams in malls or elsewhere....
get a job. get creative in protesting. dont be such whiney annoying bs talkers!
So if you went to a mall and security cops followed you around with a video camera, you wouldn't have any issues because you're already being taped with discreet cameras? If you actually know anything Scientology and have watched similar videos, they use the security goon with a hand camera as one of their many pseudo-psycho techniques to intimidate protesters. Easy for you to sit on your ass and analyze the young Brits' response; doubt you'd do any better if you were their age.
actually you are right. they shouldnt be allowed to film in public. in germany, where i live, law states that if you film 3 or less people in public you need their permission. so yeah its really psycho. i don't know about US law but i think its pretty much the same. i just hate the bitching involved in the video.
That was a great job. I love how the Security Guards speak. Definately uneducated thugs. At least this religion attracts the most uneducated of mankind. God help us if an intelligent person was running the show.
sneaky fuckers...that one with the camera with his badge on and the shoulder mounted radio trying to look like a cop- blatantly trying to fool ppl-at a glance you would think he is a cop
these people's actions dont represent a specific nationality, theyre like this world wide
deadeye851 2 weeks ago
It's so fucked how out of touch and brainwashed these people are. Sad actually.....
eltrut96 1 month ago
Hi i'm ben and i'm the minor
MyBigBud 3 months ago
Nice. Good job Scotland.
sdsuman1 5 months ago
Actually, one is allowed to film anyone in public, regardless of anyone's age.
dkrustyklown 7 months ago
has anyone ever heard of project mk ultra?
mattsk89 8 months ago
This behavior is typical when someone puts on a uniform and a badge . Try practicing free speech in this country and see how fast you end up beaten and jailed . Law enforcement has gotten way out of hand , police officers are the most hated people in America. Take a trip to WVA a see how the MEAN GREEN treat you, You want ruthless ,these boys will show you what it means in realtime .
DefendYourRights1 10 months ago
Has anyone walked around any major UK city on a weekend night? They disgrace themselves constantly. I have never seen so many drunk and naked people fighting throwing up and pissing in the street. Dublin, Glasgow, or London. You can find plenty of fine trashy specimen walking around in droves.
zOMGLaserGunzPewPew 10 months ago
They remind me of club bouncers.
Crackerton0006 1 year ago
I dont understand why is it ok for you to film the minor and not for the scientologist? You guys cant make your own law and rules, then what about equality for the law?
That was a very weird and unfair behaviour, and thats definitely not the way to win any game. The only way to win is to play fair all the way through.
globe255 1 year ago
@globe255 It was filmed by the family from Scotland and they were reacting to the security goons that were filming them. You don't think a family member can film his own family, and you think that's weird compared to the cult trying to intimidate them with camera toting security guards? Huh
psyentologysux 1 year ago
@psyentologysux Just a weird reaction.
globe255 1 year ago
@globe255
In sweden we have laws that makes it illegal to film a child/minor Without the parents consent. For quite obvius reasons really, i mean you dont want some weird old man in a coat filming your baby at the swing in a park for half an hour do ya?
Dont really know the laws in other cuntrys that well, but i guess its similer. and if thats the case the one holding this camera probobly had the fathers consent.
OlabrittFtw 4 weeks ago
"I have a life! I'm on holiday!!!!"
gdw1234 1 year ago 2
i dont like how there security guards dress like cops , who knows what crimes there commiting behide the cult , pretty scary
DainEllis 1 year ago
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zOMGLaserGunzPewPew 1 year ago
that was awesome. i love the scotsmen
snaxel3971 2 years ago
Scottish Enlightenment. Says it all!
GreatScot007 2 years ago
Proof that $cilons are pedaphiles
Metalreaper007 2 years ago
Haha! That's how it's done. Trust me, living in GB you learn how to use every right to your gain, these guys are living proof xD
Great pwnage to watch xD
Strekiee 2 years ago 2
don't mess with a scotsman or you'll get a glasgow kiss or a good ol' kick in the nuts
FreakinSweet86 2 years ago
I think it's pathetic how they try to make their Sea Org security goons look as much like real cops as they possibly can.
ProfessorxVile 2 years ago
$cilon$ brains fry as soon as they have to think. I'll give them the 1,000 yard stare and all, but coupled with the brain of a fry cook from Burger King....no critical thinking skillzzzzz.
dinoroxxx 2 years ago
I don't like scientology, but come on, the scotish kid & mates were complete tits. Firstly, it's basically the paparazzi rule, filming in public is legal. Secondly, why make such a fuss for fuck's sake. The guards are only following guidelines and indeed are highly unlikely to follow scientology themselves. Lastly, you can't expect to film strangers and then complain when they film you in a public area. Its easy to go prepared for a verbal onslaught & win if the others are not prepared. Grow up.
DW01 2 years ago
Only a couple of problems with your logic mate - the security guards are scientologists and they were using their cameras as a form of intimidation; obviously the tactic was an epic failure. Also, when you use a phase like, "I don't like Scientology, but", it sometimes means just the opposite. It's a transparent defensive mechanism; like the racist who says he's got black friends just before he starts ranting about blacks. But to be fair, what don't you like about Scientology?
psyentologysux 2 years ago
It's the whole Alien, Financial, Brainwashing, etc, etc, thing about it.
'Transparent defensive mechanism'! What? Er, no. It means exactly what it says, no subliminal meanings or messages.
How do you know that the guards were scientologists? Besides, it doesn't matter, the fact is simply filming public areas is nota crime, it seems the paranoia of this little scottish numpty won the day, and made him look a tool in my opinion.
DW01 2 years ago
If you want to go around filming minors that is prorogative, just remember if you are slapped on the sex register as a phedophile then it is your own fault. Come to the UK and try it here see what happens, your ass would be in slammer.
scotschic 2 years ago
I think we both know that the scientology geezer was filming them to annoy them just as they were doing the other way, it's nothing to do with paedophilia. This lad is just one of those know-it-all's (probably a student?) who thinks he's intellectually sharper than everyone else.
If the family stopped filming when asked then it wouldn;t have got to this far would it?
DW01 2 years ago
It has everything to do with it. As I said come over to the UK and trie do th same thing, they would be arrested by now, either cautioned or put on trial.
That family were tourists, unless the security guards wanted to provoke an international incident. I certainly would not think they would want to. And how do you know that he is not a peadophile? Do you know the security guards?
scotschic 2 years ago
Well if some strange group of people were recording your home don't you think you'd have a right to record them back incase something happened in the future? What if a gang of teenagers were eyeing up your car? Should you not record them if you had the opportunity?
Anyway, regardless, i am just thinking that the gobshite lad doing all the talking is a complete pain in the arse, one of these that just like to hear their own voices.
DW01 2 years ago
That is why I have a telelphone, to phone the Police! Commonsence would tell anyone that. The father asked them to stop taking pictures/filiming his son. The boys father, gave no permission for those security guards to film him. They were well within thier rights to ask for the footage to be removed, Another thing he might be a gobshite, that Gobshite knows his rights. Well that is what happens when you argue with a Scottish Citizen, or we just give you a Glasgow Kiss!
scotschic 2 years ago
"The father asked them to stop filming his son"
I was under the impression that the kid/family were taking pictures of the Scientology place and did not stop when asked, so in return they were filmed to annoy them. That's how i seen it.
DW01 2 years ago
Did you watch the whole 8.04 minute of the Clip? 3:00 that Father tells the Dude with the camera "Dont point the camera at him", OMG Swearing at A 14Year old, oh how, big is the Security gurad.
scotschic 2 years ago
Lets hope the security dude has removed the footage, if they have not, oh my there will be trouble. There is International as well as UK Laws against this. The Scottish Guy should have contacted the British Embassy, and ask them to deal with these scumbags. One is quite sure the UK Ambassador would not have been happy what so ever.
scotschic 2 years ago 2
UK & International Law
The Protection of Children Act (1978) covers cases of children filmed or otherwise displayed, in any form. It is an offence under that act: Those security guards broke international law, by filming this 14 year old. Without the parent permission,
scotschic 2 years ago 3
What about all these 'Caught in the act' type crime programs that are on TV showing kids stealing cars, breaking windows, etc? They have to be filmed then faces blurred if aired. Yet these production firms do not get into trouble..... Never mind, let's just end this shit argument. That Scotish knob is annoying.
DW01 2 years ago
Your 'Scotish knob' comment aside (please edit that out), you're making a rather desperate comparison that has no relationship to what happened here. If the purpose of the TV show is to put cameras in the faces of law abiding minors in order to intimidate them, then we can compare apples to apples.
psyentologysux 2 years ago 2
In addition that, private security guards must be licensed in the State of California and he's clearly violating the conditions of his license. His job ends at the private property line of the so called Church he works for; once he enters the public streets, he has zero business playing cop or goon in this case. After losing his license, he should find a new occupation, preferably where he doesn't have to interact with customers or play with cameras.
psyentologysux 2 years ago
@DW01 I would just like to reply to you comment that we (Me, my brother, my father and my uncle) were 'filming their home'. I am the 14 year old boy in this video (now aged 16) and i can confirm for you that we were not filming their home. We had stopped to speak to the anon protesters and found ourselves caught up in the crossfire of their argument with the scientology thugs. Who proceed to hold their cameras in our faces solely because we had verbal contact with anon protesters. INJUSTICE!
MyBigBud 1 year ago
@MyBigBud Regardless, no laws were broken were they? You were on a public right of way which means anybody can be caught on camera, how else do you think that celebrities have their children's photo's put in the newspapers?
I will repeat myself, i DO NOT AGREE with that they were doing, or with filming minors, but rather i argue whether it's legal or not.
PS If you listen to the kid doing the mouthing off you'd find most people would intentionally try to annoy him anyway, the Mr Knowitall.
DW01 1 year ago
@DW01 DW you've got it all wrong, filming the goons was a reaction brought on by being ambused and filmed by the goons for asking the protesters what they were doing. Also in the film the Scottish lad says he is 14, he was not a 'student' he was a secondary school kid.
MyBigBud 5 months ago
@MyBigBud I think we all know that Scientology nutters don't like to be filmed, and guess what, this actually encourages people to film them. If they do that then they should expect to be filmed back... And oh, i don't agree with any of this but facts are that anyone can film anyone, or thing, if it is in public, unfortunately
DW01 5 months ago
Previous you said that the guards were following guidelines and NOW you admit they were attempting to annoy although the correct term is intimidation. A uniform wearing private security goon sticking a camera in your face is an action to induce fear not a slight irritation. Even as you claim not to like Scientology, you keep sounding like their public relations spinner.
psyentologysux 2 years ago 2
I dont know if its policy/guidelines, or what the 'definite' reason is for the security cam, however, its an argument that goes both ways: A:"Please dont film me" B: "I will" A:"Then im gonna film you" B:"Stop that, he is only 14yrs old, why are you filming us", etc, blah, blah..
It's a petty argument and tit for tat if you ask me.
BTW, I have nothing at all to do with any religion/sect, i was merely leaving my views-which im obviously not allowed to seeing as there is censorship by yourself.
DW01 2 years ago
The guard is employed in a private security function and is required to abide by a license that is issued by the State of California. Even if you believe the teen was in the wrong, the license does not give him the authority to 'tit for tat', especially on a public street.
psyentologysux 2 years ago
Security do not have any more powers than a citizen. Fact.
EVERYTHING is opinion, and expression of that is a factor that makes our Country('s) great, regardless of what it is.
A mountain has been made out of a mole hill in this debate, and i still stand by my opinion in that these nitwits seem like a bunch of nowitalls (listen to some of the pettyness)-Is there no argument that they should'nt have been filming the Scientology building when they know it is not permitted by the Scientology loons?
DW01 2 years ago
@DW01 here let me try to explain this for you, you seem to not understand...YOU CAN'T VIDEO CHILDREN...WHAT PART OF THAT DON'T YOU GET???
marcymarie55 1 year ago
@marcymarie55 I do understand that and i agree it is morally wrong. However, looking at the reason as to why it was happening puts a different slant on it. Plus the fact that this little Scotish prick thinks he's a Mr Knowitall makes me just outright dislike him.
DW01 1 year ago
This is heresay and would in no way be admissable in...well..anything, but for what it's worth: Back in the early 90's Sharon Osbourne, yes, that Sharon Osbourne, allegedly moved her management offices because the Cult of Scientology store front located kitty corner would not stop filming and taking pictures of her clients and family, after repeated requests for them to stop. Now, think about this, they were taking pictures of people across the street and one block over, that's beyond ignorant.
thegirl44 2 years ago
i totally agree DW01.
i hate scientology also, but those guys are annoying as hell. they are insulting and bitching like 14 yearold teen girls. and that all because this guy is taping. wow. like there aint any security cams in malls or elsewhere....
get a job. get creative in protesting. dont be such whiney annoying bs talkers!
Nightmarefhk 2 years ago
So if you went to a mall and security cops followed you around with a video camera, you wouldn't have any issues because you're already being taped with discreet cameras? If you actually know anything Scientology and have watched similar videos, they use the security goon with a hand camera as one of their many pseudo-psycho techniques to intimidate protesters. Easy for you to sit on your ass and analyze the young Brits' response; doubt you'd do any better if you were their age.
psyentologysux 2 years ago
actually you are right. they shouldnt be allowed to film in public. in germany, where i live, law states that if you film 3 or less people in public you need their permission. so yeah its really psycho. i don't know about US law but i think its pretty much the same. i just hate the bitching involved in the video.
Nightmarefhk 2 years ago
True. They are just annoying people that want to hear their own voices and try to get 'one up' on the others.
DW01 2 years ago
That security guard looks like a pedaphile
CounterGame00 3 years ago
G'wan the Scots! He's gie'in him laldy!
robotboi 3 years ago
lord ZENU behold
farasfarasfaras 3 years ago
That was a great job. I love how the Security Guards speak. Definately uneducated thugs. At least this religion attracts the most uneducated of mankind. God help us if an intelligent person was running the show.
price137 3 years ago 6
attention!!The great emporor Klaaktu has spoken !!!tremble at my might and omnipotent power!!Alll nonbelievers willl be vaporized!!!
slacker97068 3 years ago
Gawn yerself wee man!!!
chamdoobley 3 years ago
sneaky fuckers...that one with the camera with his badge on and the shoulder mounted radio trying to look like a cop- blatantly trying to fool ppl-at a glance you would think he is a cop
growguyuk 3 years ago
Fuckin cunts I almost broke my screen trying to punch out that Scilon.
ChurchfromScientolog 3 years ago
Don't get pissed dude.These scumbags will answer to the law sooner or later.Their own tactics will be their downfall.
haythereis 3 years ago 15
That was cool. It really shows that someone with a level head can speak only a few words and cause a ripple.
thepranksters6 3 years ago
hey you could have filed charges for pedophila LOL
evilborg 3 years ago
SUPERB!!!! Go Scotland!!!! The dad of those two kids must be so proud of them. Well done lads, the UK is proud of you!!!!!
crisbianfloyde 3 years ago 30
Yet another addition to the endless examples of UTTER FAILURE at INTIMIDATION
squilky1951 3 years ago 3
Those are two of the lamest, dickless and child molesting-est looking "security" goons I've seen yet. I hope they have a good wank with the video.
ValerieBarlow 3 years ago 3
thanks for that. great vid. hilarious. scottish psych dad takes on scilons!
thelastanon 3 years ago