The jet fuel weakened the building at the crash zone and then all of the weight above it came crashing down and just ran right through the whole building.
@TheWad1959 I´m serious, you hear the man saying "It´s like a bed special effect". If planes would have hit the building the man in the video would have hear the plane before inpact and moved his ass out of there.
@911Investigate911 The plane can be heard approaching in many videos. I have no idea why he didnt hear it in this one, but it's there. Cherry-picking one video to support a nutter idea is intellectually dishonest.
@BRANDON85L, that can't happen according to our understandings of physics. The plane's massive speed brought with it a gigantic amount of kinetic energy. When it contacted the building at such a high speed, most (if not all) of its kinetic energy was converted to heat energy. It's the same concept of you rubbing your hands together: the faster you rub, the hotter your hands get.
Once the plane hit, heat energy engulfed the building. The plane's massive fuel load only made it worse.
To the conspiracy people, not only are steel structures weakened by fire, but a 757 jet slammed into the core at 500+ mph... think about it.
Also, controlled demolitions are preceded by hundreds of rythmic, thundering bangs, then the building comes down a few seconds later. Here the structure buckled, and the weight of the top took it all down.
@jhiller21 Exactly, the perfect exaple for this is the video of the collapse of the South Tower, shot from 6th avenue. Zoomed in on the northwest side of the South Tower you can even see the sagging of the floors, with a raging inferno inside. On the outside we see the bowing of the perimeter wall, and ends with the buckling of the northwest corner.
Here's the video everybody, please watch and see for yourself!
yes but that will be countered by someone saying ... how come that camera was focused on that exact part of the building just as it buckled - in fact it had just zoomed in on the exact spot no less - CONSPIRACY!!
@donnyab The cameraman zoomed in on the floor with the most fire. There are hundreds of video's and photographs of the exact moment of collapse, every camera was aimed at the towers. It's not surprising that one of them was aimed at this floor.
all those cops and fireman in there probably ended up dying... my father was fatally wounded in the north tower. i joined the United States Marine Corp for revenge. i miss you dad ill bring you justice
@hellninja25 Why are you the only person typing in all caps? Do you know how ridiculous it would look if the plane went all the way through? That would not make any sense at all unless the WTC were made of toothpicks.
For crying out loud, people, stop saying it was an inside job.. Most of you idiots who think it is its so you can have an arguement, you TROLLS eat that shit up! So, Shut the fuck up, and remember the dead. Even if it was an inside job, we couldn't do anything, our government is in control over all of us! So, SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!
has a commercial airliner ever flown into a skyscraper before this? no, so can one actually predict whether or not a building will collapse, and, if it does, how the collapse would look? so conspirators have nothing but speculated physics, which there is also no proof behind, there are no historical comparisons so how can one know?
@phillyguy95 In 1945 a B-25 crashed into the empire state building at a similar location as in the WTC towers ( the upper half) a fire raged in the top floors caused by fuel ignition and it was extinguished in only 40 minutes. The building reopened the following Monday with no loss in structural integrity, all columns remained intact and in a solid state. If a building built in 1931 can withstand a plane crash, the WTC should have survived also.
apples and oranges. a boeing 757/767 is larger than a B-25. the Empire State Building had a different design. the plane didnt hit at 500 MPH like the planes that hit the towers did.
@HeyaHoney Boeing 767 weighs 142 tonnes. B-25 Weighs 40 tonnes. The 767 was travelling at 790 km/h, the B-25 at 320 km/h. Buildings can only take so much.
@mjwible27 Look up Fedex flight 705. That DC-10 went to 0.99 mach and was still flyable. Just because max operating speeds are exceeded, does not mean they will tear apart. Airliners have to exceed the supposed limit in order to be certified for use by airlines.
@sthill1993 look up flight 990 Egypt air, it shredded to piece's at mach 0.99. None of boeings plane can break the sound barrier, but some how that day they did.
@mjwible27 Well then Mr. Newton how fast was the plane travellling? Egypt Air 990 did not shred apart, the port engine ripped off, and even then that was due to the captain pulling up as hard as he can. It was the 2G force that ripped it off. And in any case, 700/800 km/h is NOT Mach 0.99. If Boeing 767s aren't designed to take those sort of stress, then why are they flying if there is that possibility?
@mjwible27 1. Mach 0.99 is far beyond an airliner's limit at any height. 2. Such as which flights? 3. It's Their not There 4. Still doesn't answer the direct question 5. They don't call it High Build Quality for nothing!
@sthill1993 and this was during a nose dive, not 1,000 feet and near or over mach 1. Good video though, but you have to do better then that Mr. Einstein
@sthill1993 the had 3 different tracking speeds of the flights, they are all impossible for that height and sea level speed. The radar traffic controllers even said they thought it was an f16 because they have never seen a boeing travel at that speed so close to the ground. They made it in to a class bravo airspace(pentagon and d.c) airspace, only military planes or jets can do that, guess you knew that too.
@mjwible27 Touche. That still does not explain the speed seen on the videos. Air Traffic controllers have obviously never seen hijackers go full throttle on a 767 at low altitude before. American 77 dived before it hit the pentagon, but luckily whoever designed the pentagon did not design America's cars or the plentagon would have been levelled.
@sthill1993 and most of all don't forget, these so called hijackers couldn't even fly a cessna 125. I find that to be amazing how they could perform with pin point accuracy the maneuvers they did this day
@sthill1993 I've seen many pilots attempt those same maneuvers at the so called speed you posted, and not single one could do it in a simulator, so how they pulled it off, blows my mind. The plane didn't fit in the pentagon, because no plane hit it.The FBI finished what they started in 1993, that's a fact. 7 out of the 19 hijackers where found alive after 9/11, another major error by our government. Bin Laden was never connected to 9/11
@mjwible27 In all fairness they can't recreate Qantas QF32 because there were just too many problems to put into the simulator. Can the 9/11 conspiracy theory just be as simple as 'whoever wanted the attacks to happen hired/demanded/forced/asked 19 people to hijack 4 airliners. Just a thought.
@sthill1993 true, but a simulator is not real life. I don't buy it, they got by our air defense, to many things point towards our government letting it happen and playing a huge part in it.
yes they could. all they had to do was steer a plane. they hardly did any maneuvers. the only true maneuver done was the corkscrew that was done to F77 and that was only because the plane was too high up to impact anything.
The steel of a building doesn't have to be melted to fail. It collapsed simply because of the weight above the crash zone. The south tower collapsed first, although it was hit second, because there was more weight pushing down. Laws of physics never heard of conspiracies.
@MaxwellEindhoven wow still brainwashed it wasnt inside job. The first 3 steel buildings to fall in history (one included which was never touched or hit) Sad Watch loose change documentary on youtube
@fumitaur The collapse of the North tower caused a lot of damage to the WTC 7, and burned for 8 hours, with temperatures rising up to 1100 degrees F, enough for steel to loose total strength and stiffness.
you are blind. You mean the buildings collapsed into their FOOTPRINT at free fall because of the airplanes hitting them? have you ever seen videos of controlled demolisions and compared them to these? It's the same. Well, maybe you are talking about different physic laws that exist only in your universe.
@livingeasi This talk of control demo is ridiculous. You cannot control demo 110 floors of steel frame and have it drop in its footprint. This was a collapse, nothing else. How on earth do you wire up 100 demo charges per floor x 110 floors and keep 10,000 wires hidden from view to 8,000+ office workers ? The buildings collapsed because the floors gradually failed from the heat and left the outer columns with no resistance against buckling from the weight of tower above impact.
@MaxwellEindhoven The only thing I don't understand (and I'm not a conspiracy theorist, nor am I saying it was or was not a conspiracy), is should only the areas above and at the crash site have collapsed and fallen off, rather than the undamaged parts of the building collapse also? I would have thought the whole building would have collapsed only if the bottom was hit. Then again I'm god awful at physics, so I'm guessing you know better than me :P
@MaxwellEindhoven /watch?v=kwSmFnlwrK0 ...seriously just watch it. theyve done studies with heat and steel structures that prove that to be bullshit.. now after you watch it.. since you are so brilliant.. would you care to answer some of the questions from that video?? cause i would really like to know..
you did? so you speak for everyone now? drop the know it all attitude, it never works. the steel never melted, no one but you guys claim it did, and no bombs were planted in the planes.
dont care for my opinion? okay then, ill just block you. i wont argue with someone too full of crap and isn't having an appropriate debate. im wasting my time with you. contact me when you grow up.
and here, ladies and gentlemen, is how bad these guys' situation is. they're arguing with each other. the only difference is hellninja is being an ass and recommending BS "documentaries".
it's funny considering HE'S ALSO arguing over the internet. his screen name means nothing.
but still, this dissension in the ranks is hilarious.
no they werent, not it isnt, no one said it disappeared and it didnt anyway and there WAS debris that came out from the other side, no one said the steel melted and it didnt, no one said they found melted steel and they didnt anyway, no there werent, and no they didnt.
I've said my piece, your video with 230k views isn't worth anymore time. Ive gave several very valid reasons for believing as I and MANY americans do and you've responded with nothing but hollow one liners. You have no substance you're losing the battle and we will leave it at that.
after i said all that, i noticed you did start out with WTC 7 stuff. that still doesn't excuse you for all the crap in your last few comments, though. i even gave you multiple comments that were not one-liners. in other words, you still acted like an ass.
i still managed to catch what your comment was and will reply to it anyway to show everyone how foolish you're acting:
"I've said my piece, your video with 230k views isn't woth anymore time. Ive gave several very valid reasons for believing as I and MANY americans do and you've responded with nothing but hollow one liners. You have no substance you're losing the battle and we will leave it at that."
for one thing, you didnt give any reasons. you just badmouthed the Jews, talked about some religious stuff, and called me a "government paid propagandist". none of that has anything to do with 9/11 and if you even watched my vids you would've seen why it's worthless for me to keep posting a bunch of paragraphs about something already explained. you have contributed nothing here and are wasting a LOT of my time. another thing, stop speaking for everyone. you're not the entire country.
finally, YOU have no substance. what have you contributed here? absolutely nada. you brought your ass in here hating, not me. stop blaming me for your immaturity because it never works. there's no battle here, let alone one that anyone's losing. this imaginary war you're fighting just makes you delusional. other than the oil/gas prices, a recession we're recovering from, and the waning stages of two wars, NOTHING bad is going on in this great country. that doesn't make me blind. it's MY opinion.
i dont give a shit if you have throw a pissy fit because of my opinion. it's what my view is and i have a right to believe it whether you think it's insane or not. i haven't insulted you until i posted these comments yet you did just that for no reason whatsoever. in other words, you're being an ass and you know it. don't like my views? fine, but don't shove YOUR views down my throat and insult me because of it. it's as simple as that. either way i wasted my time with you.
To the people watching this video,, this is a government paid propagandist using suggestive thinking to sway your judgement. It comes down to Jewes wanting you to kill the Muslims on behalf of Israel. You will never change the middle east or Islam, you will only indenture yourself to economic slavery. We do not fear them nor should you. They have NO power other than the illusion they feed you thru television networks and that which you give them. They killed Jesus and your countrymen.
Of course they never SAID they want to kill anyone, why would they do that? They're not stupid.
And they HAVE killed people, have you not heard of the USS Liberty incident? 34 dead Americans, and 170 wounded. They were planning to blame it on EGYPT, just as they blamed 9/11 on 'Al Qaeda'.
after hundreds of years something wouldve been said. nice try.
no they havent. not one person has been killed because of the Jew. in fact, the Jews have been the only ones getting killed. and for what? for simply having different beliefs. it makes me sick.
When I said *THEY*, I was referring to the people conducting the Zionist scheme, as they will obviously never admit their Zionist goals. Of course common Jews have said they want to kill Christians and Muslims. Want an example? Here's one: watch?v=IX9Tk2TMA6Q
And I just gave you an example of people being killed by Jews. The USS Liberty was attacked by Israeli fighter jets even though it was flying a huge American flag. 34 people died, that is objective fact.
You're doing a terrible job at debating this. You're showing severe ignorance of the topics.
So you don't even know what Zionism is. Israel is literally defined as a Zionist state. Saying "if they even exist" is quite laughable.
I can find you plenty more videos of racist Israelis if you want.
And no, it's not a fact because I say so, it's a fact because it's a fact. It was documented. Christ, all you had to do was google "USS Liberty". Please educate yourself.
and now you're just attacking me. yes i know what it is, im not an idiot. what i do know is that you're just another Jew hater. you know who else hates...well, hated...Jews? Hitler. i guess you must support his views, right?
The guys a government spook. He's going to deny and rationalize any proof you put in front of him. Fuck the United States, your flag, fuck 9/11 and most importantly fuck you. America is in her last days, and everything she gets is well earned and deserved.
And we're still waiting for anyone of the 100 or so cameras covering the pentagon to show the object that hit it. Its not a topsecret area, you can drive by it and see it as easy as pie, the only reason to confiscate and hide the tapes is if your story isn't what it claims to be.
the amount of cameras at the Pentagon that got the plane are not at that amount. nothing has been hidden, all the videos that caught the plane have been released.
110 stories tall? If it took one second for each floor to fall thru the next you're talking 110 seconds to fall. 1/2 a second, 55 seconds. A 1/4 a second, 27 seconds. The towers fell in like 9 seconds. Wake the fuck up people. The lower floors had zero damage.
I guess it just fell over then from the wind? We have evidence a building fell down demolition style with no outside force acting upon it. Tell the government spooks you work for to hire a more intelligent propaganda division. And from the great state of Maryland, "La ilaha Ila Allah, wa Muhammed Rasul Allah".
@ChameleonMD123 it didnt take 9 seconds and it doesnt take a whole second for the towers to fall. not even a demolition can make floors fall faster. its all how the structure is built
@911NeverForget It makes perfect sense. Never forget 9/11 its the day America decided physics, the rule of law, civility and common sense no longer applied to their reality.
This over two hour 9/11 account.. is not like all of the other footage from that day.. 'Tuesday Morning in September': It is what 9/11 was to many, outside the first ring at Ground Zero. It is in reverence to those who perished, and respectful to those who lost their loved ones on that paradigm shifting tragic day. It is the retrospection that is needed for our time.
please, if you were born 7 years prior at minimum before 9-11, you have no right to comment on 9/11, you cunts werent even old enough to remember, we dont need your conspiracy/ "illuminati did it" shit.
@ryecheese999 i was 9 at the time and i remember it clearly i was in elementary school and the teachers nervously tell all the students to go outside, we can see the thick black smoke from our school...and im crying thinking my mother got hurt because she worked close to the buildings...and my best friend now my gf doesn't realize it yet but her mother would die on that day. Now in my opinion i saw this day as a bullshit way to show "power". I hate to be "that guy" but the Gov. is corrupted....
Thats the debris coming out of the back not the fucking plane!!! The plane exploded and shattered on impact based on the speeds that it was traveling. Fuck you liberal conspiracy theorists that don't even believe in fighting to defend your country against the people that did this. And fuck you people who keep blaming Bush for this it was 100% terrorist if you don't like the US and think that we did it to ourselves move to al Quaeda and suck osama's dick no one would give a fuck.
Hey Liberal conspiracy theorists...can you explain this video? Did the government manufacture this and force news agencies to show it? What about the hundreds of amateur footage from 9/11 that shows the same thing? Move out of your parents basements and get some sunlight.
@soSiccK "Those hundreds of people were in on it too!" That's what I've been told before. When you look deeper into the theories you realize how stupid they are. For anyone who thinks 911 was an inside job, stop watching stupid shit on the internet that can even back up it's source, Zeitgeist is one of those videos.
Puppizanetti when plane hits building they all die right away so it's not a bomb, whenn it hit the shards of plane cut open fuel lines and the heat from engine and fire ignited the gasoline causing it to explode
That´s because the plane is a real bomb. At the moment that the plane enters the building there´s a flash just before it hits the building, U can see it in other videos. That flash is the bomb activated, it means that once it enters the building the plane explodes into a pieces. Becoming instead of one object into a million parts and is not solid to go across the other side in a bigger proportion.
@Puppizannetti are you fucking stupid? that plane is going its terminal velocity and hits a fucking skyscraper, of course its going to shatter, if you dont think so then you are watching to many hollywood movies, there is no flash, no bomb, your just a fat prick sitting in your basement with nothing to do except argue about something were thousands lost there lives, stop with these stupid theories and just remember the lost ones, not some unlikely government conspiracy
i love how you guys love to degrade others and make yourselves seem so important by calling everyone else conspiracy theorists instead when they're not giving any theories of any conspiracies at all.
@Puppizannetti There is also an extra piece of equipment on the fuselage, air force pilots have said that that is not normal and believe it had something to do with the orange flash when the plane hit, and the same is for flight 11 that hit the N tower, there is a whit flash about a second before the plane hit the tower.
@911NeverForget The flashes on the tower were proven by military specialists, there were obivious flashes before the planes hit the tower. On the north tower the white flash appeared a few moments before the shadow of the nose even appears on the building, so theres no way it can be a transfer of energy if the plane was still meters away from they tower . The orange flash on the south tower appeared just as the nose penatrated.
@911NeverForget Miltary specialists proved that its not a static discharge or sparks. The flash appeared directly across from the extra piece of equipment on the plane. It has been suspected that it was incendiary explosives.
@911NeverForget That makes no sense, you dont have a real answer to my obeservations or theories. I dont know if your to blind to see or just ignoring the truth of the twin towers, your probally one of those people who believes everything the government says. Because nothing compares to the storys of the firemen, and eye witnesses say, on all of homemade videos of the attack you see the same thing but news casts show everything editied to make you belive the towers fell on their own.
@a7x4lyfe11 not one "millitary specialist" has proven there was any of what you claim. It was a transfer of energy, the shadow evidence your claiming is not taking into account camera angle and angle of the sun. This stuff has all been explained and debunked 6 years ago. Please come up with something new or let it rest. The "truth" movement has not done anything of significance in 2 years and most of it's leaders have moved on to other nonsense to make money off of.
@Oz1976 watch Was Extra Equipment Attached To Flight 175? (The plane that struck the south Twin Tower on 9/11) by 911NLP, I know your to hard headed to take in account the eye witnesses and military expertises, but they all " debunked" the governments offical story. Watch Loose change on 9/11 aswell, you probally wont because you dont want to be proven wrong. Your government is lieng to you about everything you need to open your eyes and see that.
@a7x4lyfe11 No, there wasn't. This was debunked years ago, it's actually nothing more than a shadow. I'm not the one that's hard headed...you refuse to see the evidence that is in front of your face. Loose Change is a farce. Please. The first edition was a work of total fiction, Dylan Avery's own words. Only after he saw the money in CT's did he make it "truth". Not to mention his producer, Korey Rowe is a heroin dealer. The govt isn't lying about 911. OBL and AQ perpetrated it, not the US.
@Oz1976 There is no way you can say a bright orange and white flash is a shadow, Loose changes is nothing more than first hand witnesses of the people and firemen, the 9/11 commission report was a "farce". The facts and evidence are lying in front of my face and it say that there is no way these building would collapse due to fire especially in their own foot print, WTC 7 collapsed due to fire as well even though Silverstien himself said "Pull It", witch means blow the building.
@Oz1976 Now it was debunked in 2002 by Dylan Avery, fake facts or not he addressed the facts that got everyone noticing. Jesse Ventura also believes and proves that 9/11 commission report was a cover up. If everything they told us was true, why did they stonewall us? How come the Bush administration knew about it and didn't do anything? To help prove that he was caught with blatant lie on live T.V about where he was when the planes hit the towers plus his reaction.
@a7x4lyfe11 Jesse Ventura also believes in therm*te. Have you read the commission report? It's freely available. I suggest you read it cover to cover and understand it. They didn't know about it. They knew something was coming, what, when, where, and how they did not. The fact is, 911 COULD have been avoided, but Bill Clinton failed to act. It's as much on his administration as it is on Bush's. Richard Clark warned of OBL in 1996, we could have killed him numerous times prior to 911...
@Oz1976 Failed to act, now that is something America is not good at, they start a war anytime terrorism is presented that doesn't even evolve them either. But prior to 9/11 the USAF intercepted 67 planes thought to be or have been hijacked. Now on that day there were four hijacked planes, but none of them were ever intercepted. But America did not act on that or killing Osama Bin Laden when they could to prevent terrorism. Why was it on that day there was only 15 planes to defend the country.
@a7x4lyfe11 Why the change of subject? That's called a Strawman argument. I can only assume you're refering to our air force jets, though that has not been mentioned in this conversation. Stay on topic. Secondly, only ONE continentally originating airplane has EVER been intercepted by NORAD. Payne Stewart's plane. Never, in the 30+ years prior to 911 has NORAD had to intercept a domestic hijack.
@Oz1976 Im not changing topic at all, I was referring to your "failed to act" remark, So I was referring to how America just seemed to have no protection that day, and the law to shoot down hijacked aircraft changed, from the militaries decision to shoot down the aircraft to the secretary of defense, just three months before 911. Norad had 67 successful interceptions of suspected hijackings and off course aircraft prior to 911 according to the associated press.
@a7x4lyfe11 The failed to act remark was in reference to Bill Clinton not killing OBL when he had the chance. Are you really this dumb, or just playing that way? LOL you're quoting David Ray Griffin's nonsense about the 67 intercepts...pro tip...they were ALL over the oceans, hence why 2 of the scrambled fighter jets who were not given direction on take off went out over the atlantic. NORAD has only intercepted ONE domestic flight ever and it took 50+ minutes, payne stewarts plane.
@Oz1976 Im not dumb at all, over the ocean or not they could of still intercepted the two planes that were still airbourne after Flight 175 hit the south tower. There were only 14 planes that day I do not know if it was planned or a coincidence. But we are getting way off the main topic here, The towers. There was obvious evidence on ground zero that there was thermite. Of course the bush Admin knew, they let it happen. There's no way those Towers could have fallen after an hour of fire damage.
@a7x4lyfe11 Could they have? Maybe had they been informed 30 minutes sooner. Maybe. Transponders were off, so no altitude information. 3000 other planes in the air over the northeast would interfere.
No there was no evidence of thermite. No slagged steal. The chemical composition was expected to be found. There was a helluva lot of Fe and Al in the WTC's. Steven Jones' "thermite" shows a 7.5 kj/h potential energy, too bad Thermite has a PTE of 4.5kj/h. It wasn't thermite.
@Oz1976 There was no slagging steel, it was sheer as it cut with a saw. Now firemen have found residue r of thermite, and melted steel in the basements. plane fuel, its max temp is 1800 degrees F and since the smoke was black that means it was oxygen starved, now the fire cant reach 1800 F with out enough oxygen, and steel melts at 2500 F, but C4 burns at 3000 F well above the melting point.
@Oz1976 the towers fell in 10 seconds. Gravity pushes down 10m/s2, which means gravity pushes down 10m/s2 with NO resistance. Which is Force of gravity. This applies to Newtons third law,which states for every action there is a reaction, and there is no way that "pancaking floors", as the commissioners say, can never fall at free-fall because of the opposite force pushing back up. Now every time that would happen you would encounter friction or resistance and that would slow down the collapse.
@Oz1976 For the towers to fall without resistance the whole steel infrastructure would of had to fail simultaneously. That is not possible without explosives, residues was found at ground zero, NASA satellites picked up hotspots days after the attacks in the ground exceeding the temperatures of fire. Firemen said they heard secondary explosions in the floors around and way below the impact zone. It's not fuel because 90% burn up in the initial fireball, and the rest burnt off within 15 minutes.
@Oz1976 I said Newtons third was APPLIED, not broken. The towers fell at free fall speed, that means there was no resistance on the way down. This is a simple science fact.
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" If you have a problem demolishing any building...if no one else can help...and if you can find them...maybe you can hire...George Bush & his Team."
privatezib 3 months ago
911 = MOSSAD JOB
Modern day Lavon Affair
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TuesdayMorningInSept 4 months ago
The jet fuel weakened the building at the crash zone and then all of the weight above it came crashing down and just ran right through the whole building.
NFLization 4 months ago
"Like a bad special effect"
KeepSkippin 5 months ago
fake
911Investigate911 5 months ago
@911Investigate911 Moron
TheWad1959 4 months ago
@TheWad1959 I´m serious, you hear the man saying "It´s like a bed special effect". If planes would have hit the building the man in the video would have hear the plane before inpact and moved his ass out of there.
911Investigate911 4 months ago
@911Investigate911 The plane can be heard approaching in many videos. I have no idea why he didnt hear it in this one, but it's there. Cherry-picking one video to support a nutter idea is intellectually dishonest.
TheWad1959 4 months ago
@TheWad1959 In every video you hear people scream after the explosion. No one sees a plane and no one hears it !!!
911Investigate911 4 months ago
@TheWad1959 I know this is mindblowing to believe that own government could do that, but this is exactly what the want you to think.
911Investigate911 4 months ago
I miss Peter Jennings.
rutgers1961 5 months ago
I wonder wat would have happened if the plane just sat in the buliding...didnt explode??
BRANDON85L 5 months ago
@BRANDON85L, that can't happen according to our understandings of physics. The plane's massive speed brought with it a gigantic amount of kinetic energy. When it contacted the building at such a high speed, most (if not all) of its kinetic energy was converted to heat energy. It's the same concept of you rubbing your hands together: the faster you rub, the hotter your hands get.
Once the plane hit, heat energy engulfed the building. The plane's massive fuel load only made it worse.
ZhangtheGreat 5 months ago
@MrNucch Go to your nearest mental hospital you morons think a plane hit the pentagon how moronic can you get buahaha idiots
F1brawfa 5 months ago
Strange how videos which show actual footage without any bullshit involved get 1/10 the views that conspiracy bullshit gets
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MisterMasterShafter1 5 months ago
To the conspiracy people, not only are steel structures weakened by fire, but a 757 jet slammed into the core at 500+ mph... think about it.
Also, controlled demolitions are preceded by hundreds of rythmic, thundering bangs, then the building comes down a few seconds later. Here the structure buckled, and the weight of the top took it all down.
jhiller21 5 months ago
@jhiller21 Exactly, the perfect exaple for this is the video of the collapse of the South Tower, shot from 6th avenue. Zoomed in on the northwest side of the South Tower you can even see the sagging of the floors, with a raging inferno inside. On the outside we see the bowing of the perimeter wall, and ends with the buckling of the northwest corner.
Here's the video everybody, please watch and see for yourself!
/watch?v=fMibXJjx_DE
MaxwellEindhoven 5 months ago
@MaxwellEindhoven
yes but that will be countered by someone saying ... how come that camera was focused on that exact part of the building just as it buckled - in fact it had just zoomed in on the exact spot no less - CONSPIRACY!!
donnyab 5 months ago
@donnyab The cameraman zoomed in on the floor with the most fire. There are hundreds of video's and photographs of the exact moment of collapse, every camera was aimed at the towers. It's not surprising that one of them was aimed at this floor.
MaxwellEindhoven 5 months ago
looks like s bad affect?? hmmmm
alumawall 5 months ago
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all those cops and fireman in there probably ended up dying... my father was fatally wounded in the north tower. i joined the United States Marine Corp for revenge. i miss you dad ill bring you justice
FemaleMarine1 5 months ago
I bet you that guy looking up had something to do with it. I don't like this guy there's something fishy about it
shiesty9 6 months ago
it looks like that guy sittin there had no idea what was goin on until the second plane hit..."huh??"
dandandamattressman 6 months ago
the plane exploded dumb ass
picklelover360 6 months ago
@hellninja25 Why are you the only person typing in all caps? Do you know how ridiculous it would look if the plane went all the way through? That would not make any sense at all unless the WTC were made of toothpicks.
XgokkunX 7 months ago
For crying out loud, people, stop saying it was an inside job.. Most of you idiots who think it is its so you can have an arguement, you TROLLS eat that shit up! So, Shut the fuck up, and remember the dead. Even if it was an inside job, we couldn't do anything, our government is in control over all of us! So, SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!
SMITEM1 7 months ago
has a commercial airliner ever flown into a skyscraper before this? no, so can one actually predict whether or not a building will collapse, and, if it does, how the collapse would look? so conspirators have nothing but speculated physics, which there is also no proof behind, there are no historical comparisons so how can one know?
phillyguy95 7 months ago
not happening before =/= cant happen.
the only collapse predicting that took place was for WTC 7 and that wasnt predicting, it was certainty.
911NeverForget 7 months ago
@phillyguy95 In 1945 a B-25 crashed into the empire state building at a similar location as in the WTC towers ( the upper half) a fire raged in the top floors caused by fuel ignition and it was extinguished in only 40 minutes. The building reopened the following Monday with no loss in structural integrity, all columns remained intact and in a solid state. If a building built in 1931 can withstand a plane crash, the WTC should have survived also.
HeyaHoney 7 months ago
apples and oranges. a boeing 757/767 is larger than a B-25. the Empire State Building had a different design. the plane didnt hit at 500 MPH like the planes that hit the towers did.
911NeverForget 7 months ago
@HeyaHoney Boeing 767 weighs 142 tonnes. B-25 Weighs 40 tonnes. The 767 was travelling at 790 km/h, the B-25 at 320 km/h. Buildings can only take so much.
sthill1993 7 months ago
@sthill1993 790 km/h exceeds max operating speeds at sea level, thanks for pointing that out
mjwible27 6 months ago
@mjwible27 Do Hijackers care about operating speeds? No I thought not. American 77 was travelling at 850 km/h.
sthill1993 6 months ago
@sthill1993 ummm, no but the plane would tear a part at those speeds, meaning it was IMPOSSIBLE. LMAO
mjwible27 6 months ago
@mjwible27 Look up Fedex flight 705. That DC-10 went to 0.99 mach and was still flyable. Just because max operating speeds are exceeded, does not mean they will tear apart. Airliners have to exceed the supposed limit in order to be certified for use by airlines.
sthill1993 6 months ago
@sthill1993 look up flight 990 Egypt air, it shredded to piece's at mach 0.99. None of boeings plane can break the sound barrier, but some how that day they did.
mjwible27 6 months ago
@mjwible27 Well then Mr. Newton how fast was the plane travellling? Egypt Air 990 did not shred apart, the port engine ripped off, and even then that was due to the captain pulling up as hard as he can. It was the 2G force that ripped it off. And in any case, 700/800 km/h is NOT Mach 0.99. If Boeing 767s aren't designed to take those sort of stress, then why are they flying if there is that possibility?
sthill1993 6 months ago
@sthill1993 and the plane you showed me is at an altitude of around 20,000 feet.
mjwible27 6 months ago
@sthill1993 and that was a 1st in history, but look at all the others that have went over there max operating speed, they have shredded a part.
mjwible27 6 months ago
@mjwible27 1. Mach 0.99 is far beyond an airliner's limit at any height. 2. Such as which flights? 3. It's Their not There 4. Still doesn't answer the direct question 5. They don't call it High Build Quality for nothing!
sthill1993 6 months ago
@sthill1993 and this was during a nose dive, not 1,000 feet and near or over mach 1. Good video though, but you have to do better then that Mr. Einstein
mjwible27 6 months ago
@mjwible27 Bottom Line. The plane was going at 750 km/h. If it wasn't then the thousands of newsvideos must be sped up.
sthill1993 6 months ago
@sthill1993 the had 3 different tracking speeds of the flights, they are all impossible for that height and sea level speed. The radar traffic controllers even said they thought it was an f16 because they have never seen a boeing travel at that speed so close to the ground. They made it in to a class bravo airspace(pentagon and d.c) airspace, only military planes or jets can do that, guess you knew that too.
mjwible27 6 months ago
@mjwible27 Touche. That still does not explain the speed seen on the videos. Air Traffic controllers have obviously never seen hijackers go full throttle on a 767 at low altitude before. American 77 dived before it hit the pentagon, but luckily whoever designed the pentagon did not design America's cars or the plentagon would have been levelled.
sthill1993 6 months ago
@sthill1993 and most of all don't forget, these so called hijackers couldn't even fly a cessna 125. I find that to be amazing how they could perform with pin point accuracy the maneuvers they did this day
mjwible27 6 months ago
@mjwible27 They had limited simulator training to the point that they could point it at something, and the WTC stands out for miles.
sthill1993 6 months ago
@sthill1993 I've seen many pilots attempt those same maneuvers at the so called speed you posted, and not single one could do it in a simulator, so how they pulled it off, blows my mind. The plane didn't fit in the pentagon, because no plane hit it.The FBI finished what they started in 1993, that's a fact. 7 out of the 19 hijackers where found alive after 9/11, another major error by our government. Bin Laden was never connected to 9/11
mjwible27 6 months ago
@mjwible27 In all fairness they can't recreate Qantas QF32 because there were just too many problems to put into the simulator. Can the 9/11 conspiracy theory just be as simple as 'whoever wanted the attacks to happen hired/demanded/forced/asked 19 people to hijack 4 airliners. Just a thought.
sthill1993 6 months ago
@sthill1993 true, but a simulator is not real life. I don't buy it, they got by our air defense, to many things point towards our government letting it happen and playing a huge part in it.
mjwible27 6 months ago
there's not "too many things". there isnt anything at all in relation to that.
911NeverForget 6 months ago
@911NeverForget what?
mjwible27 6 months ago
i was replying to one of your comments.
911NeverForget 6 months ago
@911NeverForget ok
mjwible27 6 months ago
yes they could. all they had to do was steer a plane. they hardly did any maneuvers. the only true maneuver done was the corkscrew that was done to F77 and that was only because the plane was too high up to impact anything.
911NeverForget 6 months ago
@HeyaHoney completely different on all levels
MStrikerPictures 6 months ago
its now 2011 and who cares. whats kim kardashian up to?????
nauris706 8 months ago
why that bimbo gets mentioned on a 9/11 video is beyond me.
911NeverForget 7 months ago 18
The steel of a building doesn't have to be melted to fail. It collapsed simply because of the weight above the crash zone. The south tower collapsed first, although it was hit second, because there was more weight pushing down. Laws of physics never heard of conspiracies.
MaxwellEindhoven 8 months ago 77
@MaxwellEindhoven I totally agree with you!
DrawerChris 6 months ago
@MaxwellEindhoven wow still brainwashed it wasnt inside job. The first 3 steel buildings to fall in history (one included which was never touched or hit) Sad Watch loose change documentary on youtube
84typo 5 months ago
@84typo Dude, Loose Change is full of lies! Even the makers of that documentairy admitted it!
MaxwellEindhoven 5 months ago
@MaxwellEindhoven How do you explain wtc7? No plane even hit that one, yet it fell just the same.
fumitaur 5 months ago
@fumitaur The collapse of the North tower caused a lot of damage to the WTC 7, and burned for 8 hours, with temperatures rising up to 1100 degrees F, enough for steel to loose total strength and stiffness.
MaxwellEindhoven 5 months ago
@MaxwellEindhoven Amen.
MegaStealth101 5 months ago
@MaxwellEindhoven what about building 7
quez76 4 months ago
@MaxwellEindhoven
you are blind. You mean the buildings collapsed into their FOOTPRINT at free fall because of the airplanes hitting them? have you ever seen videos of controlled demolisions and compared them to these? It's the same. Well, maybe you are talking about different physic laws that exist only in your universe.
livingeasi 4 months ago
@livingeasi I am blind?
If you think they fell into their own footprint, YOU ARE BLIND! The debris fell in a widespread area!
Free fall speed? What are you talking about? what is the free fall speed for these buildings then?
Controlled Demolition? Have you ever seen a real CD? It's absolutely NOTHING like 9/11. The towers simply buckled, and collapsed.
MaxwellEindhoven 4 months ago
@livingeasi This talk of control demo is ridiculous. You cannot control demo 110 floors of steel frame and have it drop in its footprint. This was a collapse, nothing else. How on earth do you wire up 100 demo charges per floor x 110 floors and keep 10,000 wires hidden from view to 8,000+ office workers ? The buildings collapsed because the floors gradually failed from the heat and left the outer columns with no resistance against buckling from the weight of tower above impact.
bigmaxy07 1 month ago
@livingeasi Have you seen controlled demo's? These building were awful quiet for having been "controlled demo's"
zeppelin67637 1 month ago
@MaxwellEindhoven The only thing I don't understand (and I'm not a conspiracy theorist, nor am I saying it was or was not a conspiracy), is should only the areas above and at the crash site have collapsed and fallen off, rather than the undamaged parts of the building collapse also? I would have thought the whole building would have collapsed only if the bottom was hit. Then again I'm god awful at physics, so I'm guessing you know better than me :P
Jasmine171819 4 months ago
@MaxwellEindhoven thank you for trying to put some sense into these morons...
eaglebyrnes8 1 month ago
@MaxwellEindhoven /watch?v=kwSmFnlwrK0 ...seriously just watch it. theyve done studies with heat and steel structures that prove that to be bullshit.. now after you watch it.. since you are so brilliant.. would you care to answer some of the questions from that video?? cause i would really like to know..
tca420 1 week ago
you did? so you speak for everyone now? drop the know it all attitude, it never works. the steel never melted, no one but you guys claim it did, and no bombs were planted in the planes.
dont care for my opinion? okay then, ill just block you. i wont argue with someone too full of crap and isn't having an appropriate debate. im wasting my time with you. contact me when you grow up.
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911NeverForget 8 months ago 5
and here, ladies and gentlemen, is how bad these guys' situation is. they're arguing with each other. the only difference is hellninja is being an ass and recommending BS "documentaries".
it's funny considering HE'S ALSO arguing over the internet. his screen name means nothing.
but still, this dissension in the ranks is hilarious.
911NeverForget 8 months ago
@hellninja25 look retard, i was IN 9/11. I think i would know whats in the planes.......
megabubblegumful 8 months ago
@hellninja25 9/11 was in inside job i will agree, but there were no FUCKING BOMBS ON THE DAMN PLANES!
megabubblegumful 8 months ago
you specifically said that the plane should've "come out partially on the other side" and i said it did but just as debris.
no there isnt and no one said jet fuel did any of that. you ignored most of my points and just pulled out more strawman arguments. typical.
911NeverForget 8 months ago
no they werent, not it isnt, no one said it disappeared and it didnt anyway and there WAS debris that came out from the other side, no one said the steel melted and it didnt, no one said they found melted steel and they didnt anyway, no there werent, and no they didnt.
so many strawman arguments in your comment...
911NeverForget 8 months ago
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I've said my piece, your video with 230k views isn't worth anymore time. Ive gave several very valid reasons for believing as I and MANY americans do and you've responded with nothing but hollow one liners. You have no substance you're losing the battle and we will leave it at that.
ChameleonMD123 9 months ago
after i said all that, i noticed you did start out with WTC 7 stuff. that still doesn't excuse you for all the crap in your last few comments, though. i even gave you multiple comments that were not one-liners. in other words, you still acted like an ass.
911NeverForget 9 months ago
@ChameleonMD123 The most "proof" you've given is hollering that 911NeverForget is a government-paid propagandist with absolutely no reasoning.
XgokkunX 7 months ago
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ChameleonMD123 9 months ago
i still managed to catch what your comment was and will reply to it anyway to show everyone how foolish you're acting:
"I've said my piece, your video with 230k views isn't woth anymore time. Ive gave several very valid reasons for believing as I and MANY americans do and you've responded with nothing but hollow one liners. You have no substance you're losing the battle and we will leave it at that."
911NeverForget 9 months ago
for one thing, you didnt give any reasons. you just badmouthed the Jews, talked about some religious stuff, and called me a "government paid propagandist". none of that has anything to do with 9/11 and if you even watched my vids you would've seen why it's worthless for me to keep posting a bunch of paragraphs about something already explained. you have contributed nothing here and are wasting a LOT of my time. another thing, stop speaking for everyone. you're not the entire country.
911NeverForget 9 months ago
finally, YOU have no substance. what have you contributed here? absolutely nada. you brought your ass in here hating, not me. stop blaming me for your immaturity because it never works. there's no battle here, let alone one that anyone's losing. this imaginary war you're fighting just makes you delusional. other than the oil/gas prices, a recession we're recovering from, and the waning stages of two wars, NOTHING bad is going on in this great country. that doesn't make me blind. it's MY opinion.
911NeverForget 9 months ago
i dont give a shit if you have throw a pissy fit because of my opinion. it's what my view is and i have a right to believe it whether you think it's insane or not. i haven't insulted you until i posted these comments yet you did just that for no reason whatsoever. in other words, you're being an ass and you know it. don't like my views? fine, but don't shove YOUR views down my throat and insult me because of it. it's as simple as that. either way i wasted my time with you.
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911NeverForget 9 months ago
To the people watching this video,, this is a government paid propagandist using suggestive thinking to sway your judgement. It comes down to Jewes wanting you to kill the Muslims on behalf of Israel. You will never change the middle east or Islam, you will only indenture yourself to economic slavery. We do not fear them nor should you. They have NO power other than the illusion they feed you thru television networks and that which you give them. They killed Jesus and your countrymen.
ChameleonMD123 9 months ago
again, lose the paranoia. the Jews had nothing to do with anything. they have never said they wanted to kill anyone nor HAVE they killed anyone.
this Jewish scapegoating needs to stop.
911NeverForget 9 months ago
@911NeverForget
Of course they never SAID they want to kill anyone, why would they do that? They're not stupid.
And they HAVE killed people, have you not heard of the USS Liberty incident? 34 dead Americans, and 170 wounded. They were planning to blame it on EGYPT, just as they blamed 9/11 on 'Al Qaeda'.
Ilikemustard 8 months ago
after hundreds of years something wouldve been said. nice try.
no they havent. not one person has been killed because of the Jew. in fact, the Jews have been the only ones getting killed. and for what? for simply having different beliefs. it makes me sick.
911NeverForget 8 months ago
@911NeverForget
When I said *THEY*, I was referring to the people conducting the Zionist scheme, as they will obviously never admit their Zionist goals. Of course common Jews have said they want to kill Christians and Muslims. Want an example? Here's one: watch?v=IX9Tk2TMA6Q
And I just gave you an example of people being killed by Jews. The USS Liberty was attacked by Israeli fighter jets even though it was flying a huge American flag. 34 people died, that is objective fact.
Ilikemustard 8 months ago
there's nothing Zionist about anything, if they even exist.
one freaking person. ive seen more death threats come from hundreds of non-Jews.
that's not a fact because you say so.
911NeverForget 8 months ago
@911NeverForget
You're doing a terrible job at debating this. You're showing severe ignorance of the topics.
So you don't even know what Zionism is. Israel is literally defined as a Zionist state. Saying "if they even exist" is quite laughable.
I can find you plenty more videos of racist Israelis if you want.
And no, it's not a fact because I say so, it's a fact because it's a fact. It was documented. Christ, all you had to do was google "USS Liberty". Please educate yourself.
Ilikemustard 8 months ago 2
and now you're just attacking me. yes i know what it is, im not an idiot. what i do know is that you're just another Jew hater. you know who else hates...well, hated...Jews? Hitler. i guess you must support his views, right?
im wasting my time with you.
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911NeverForget 8 months ago
@ChameleonMD123 How do you know this person is paid by the government? Because he holds a different opinion than you?
XgokkunX 7 months ago
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ChameleonMD123 9 months ago
The guys a government spook. He's going to deny and rationalize any proof you put in front of him. Fuck the United States, your flag, fuck 9/11 and most importantly fuck you. America is in her last days, and everything she gets is well earned and deserved.
ChameleonMD123 9 months ago
And we're still waiting for anyone of the 100 or so cameras covering the pentagon to show the object that hit it. Its not a topsecret area, you can drive by it and see it as easy as pie, the only reason to confiscate and hide the tapes is if your story isn't what it claims to be.
ChameleonMD123 9 months ago
the amount of cameras at the Pentagon that got the plane are not at that amount. nothing has been hidden, all the videos that caught the plane have been released.
911NeverForget 9 months ago
@911NeverForget Sure it has all 2 seconds and 1 frame of the cruise missile that hit it.
ChameleonMD123 9 months ago
110 stories tall? If it took one second for each floor to fall thru the next you're talking 110 seconds to fall. 1/2 a second, 55 seconds. A 1/4 a second, 27 seconds. The towers fell in like 9 seconds. Wake the fuck up people. The lower floors had zero damage.
ChameleonMD123 9 months ago
it wasnt 9 seconds and the lower floors did have damage.
911NeverForget 9 months ago
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ChameleonMD123 9 months ago
@911NeverForget Sure they did, after they started the pre-planned demolition sequence. Building 7 is irrefutable. But you can try.
ChameleonMD123 9 months ago
there wasn't a "pre-planned demolition sequence". no evidence of that exists.
it's irrefutable that it did not fall from CD.
911NeverForget 9 months ago
I guess it just fell over then from the wind? We have evidence a building fell down demolition style with no outside force acting upon it. Tell the government spooks you work for to hire a more intelligent propaganda division. And from the great state of Maryland, "La ilaha Ila Allah, wa Muhammed Rasul Allah".
ChameleonMD123 9 months ago
no you dont and no one's a shill. lose the paranoia.
911NeverForget 9 months ago
@ChameleonMD123 it didnt take 9 seconds and it doesnt take a whole second for the towers to fall. not even a demolition can make floors fall faster. its all how the structure is built
XxxxExclusivexxxX 9 months ago
This video should be called view of the military plane impact from street level.
Cayus09 9 months ago
except it's not a military plane.
911NeverForget 9 months ago
@911NeverForget 911 is a joke in your town, get get up, get get down...
ChameleonMD123 9 months ago
that makes positively no sense.
911NeverForget 9 months ago
@911NeverForget It makes perfect sense. Never forget 9/11 its the day America decided physics, the rule of law, civility and common sense no longer applied to their reality.
ChameleonMD123 9 months ago
physics was there.
911NeverForget 9 months ago
I was five when on 9-11 and I still remember it. My dad was on flight 77. And was killed.
The3oh3lover 9 months ago
ladies and gentlemen, the power of religion.
myco578 10 months ago
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tusmorninginsept 11 months ago
please, if you were born 7 years prior at minimum before 9-11, you have no right to comment on 9/11, you cunts werent even old enough to remember, we dont need your conspiracy/ "illuminati did it" shit.
ryecheese999 11 months ago
@ryecheese999 i was 9 at the time and i remember it clearly i was in elementary school and the teachers nervously tell all the students to go outside, we can see the thick black smoke from our school...and im crying thinking my mother got hurt because she worked close to the buildings...and my best friend now my gf doesn't realize it yet but her mother would die on that day. Now in my opinion i saw this day as a bullshit way to show "power". I hate to be "that guy" but the Gov. is corrupted....
crazychris1123 10 months ago
@crazychris1123 so your about 19 now. Im sure you remember. Im just talking about people who were 3-4 years old at the time
ryecheese999 10 months ago
Thats the debris coming out of the back not the fucking plane!!! The plane exploded and shattered on impact based on the speeds that it was traveling. Fuck you liberal conspiracy theorists that don't even believe in fighting to defend your country against the people that did this. And fuck you people who keep blaming Bush for this it was 100% terrorist if you don't like the US and think that we did it to ourselves move to al Quaeda and suck osama's dick no one would give a fuck.
MrColinisabeast 11 months ago
that guy missed the show,omg where was he looking
JSH4sure 11 months ago
Hey Liberal conspiracy theorists...can you explain this video? Did the government manufacture this and force news agencies to show it? What about the hundreds of amateur footage from 9/11 that shows the same thing? Move out of your parents basements and get some sunlight.
soSiccK 11 months ago
@soSiccK "Those hundreds of people were in on it too!" That's what I've been told before. When you look deeper into the theories you realize how stupid they are. For anyone who thinks 911 was an inside job, stop watching stupid shit on the internet that can even back up it's source, Zeitgeist is one of those videos.
caboose6577 11 months ago
at speeds it was probably going, it probably shattered on impact.
droidca9 11 months ago
Puppizanetti when plane hits building they all die right away so it's not a bomb, whenn it hit the shards of plane cut open fuel lines and the heat from engine and fire ignited the gasoline causing it to explode
thesuperisaiah1 11 months ago
For some odd reason... Dont hate me for saying this but i honestly wanted to be there and help out and just cry my heart out...
Legends360 1 year ago 10
@Legends360 I think that's a very humane and brave thing to say... wish I could have helped, but I was only 4 at the time...
Sakuya727 9 months ago
@Sakuya727 Yeah, I was about 4 or 5 also.
Legends360 9 months ago
That´s because the plane is a real bomb. At the moment that the plane enters the building there´s a flash just before it hits the building, U can see it in other videos. That flash is the bomb activated, it means that once it enters the building the plane explodes into a pieces. Becoming instead of one object into a million parts and is not solid to go across the other side in a bigger proportion.
Puppizannetti 1 year ago
it's a transfer of energy.
911NeverForget 1 year ago 8
@Puppizannetti Actually the flash is the transfer of kinetic energy!
CamBuzz19 11 months ago
@Puppizannetti BULLSHIT. Enough the conspiracy stuff...
KEVLY 11 months ago
@Puppizannetti are you fucking stupid? that plane is going its terminal velocity and hits a fucking skyscraper, of course its going to shatter, if you dont think so then you are watching to many hollywood movies, there is no flash, no bomb, your just a fat prick sitting in your basement with nothing to do except argue about something were thousands lost there lives, stop with these stupid theories and just remember the lost ones, not some unlikely government conspiracy
Inspir8tionNation 10 months ago
@Inspir8tionNation Look up Operation Northwoods, and Gulf of Tonkin incident and you tell me who's the conspiracy theorist.
tjp5295 9 months ago
i love how you guys love to degrade others and make yourselves seem so important by calling everyone else conspiracy theorists instead when they're not giving any theories of any conspiracies at all.
911NeverForget 9 months ago
@Puppizannetti your an idiot shut up
buffaloSabrespommy 10 months ago
@Puppizannetti There is also an extra piece of equipment on the fuselage, air force pilots have said that that is not normal and believe it had something to do with the orange flash when the plane hit, and the same is for flight 11 that hit the N tower, there is a whit flash about a second before the plane hit the tower.
a7x4lyfe11 9 months ago
the flash was just a transfer of energy. simple physics.
there were no flashes before the planes hit.
911NeverForget 9 months ago
@911NeverForget The flashes on the tower were proven by military specialists, there were obivious flashes before the planes hit the tower. On the north tower the white flash appeared a few moments before the shadow of the nose even appears on the building, so theres no way it can be a transfer of energy if the plane was still meters away from they tower . The orange flash on the south tower appeared just as the nose penatrated.
a7x4lyfe11 9 months ago
@911NeverForget Miltary specialists proved that its not a static discharge or sparks. The flash appeared directly across from the extra piece of equipment on the plane. It has been suspected that it was incendiary explosives.
a7x4lyfe11 9 months ago
no they havent, there isnt no "extra piece" and no it hasnt.
911NeverForget 9 months ago
@911NeverForget That makes no sense, you dont have a real answer to my obeservations or theories. I dont know if your to blind to see or just ignoring the truth of the twin towers, your probally one of those people who believes everything the government says. Because nothing compares to the storys of the firemen, and eye witnesses say, on all of homemade videos of the attack you see the same thing but news casts show everything editied to make you belive the towers fell on their own.
a7x4lyfe11 9 months ago
ive given you real answers.
yet another one who thinks i "believes everything the government says" just for having an opposing opinion. typical.
they didnt edit anything.
911NeverForget 9 months ago
@a7x4lyfe11 not one "millitary specialist" has proven there was any of what you claim. It was a transfer of energy, the shadow evidence your claiming is not taking into account camera angle and angle of the sun. This stuff has all been explained and debunked 6 years ago. Please come up with something new or let it rest. The "truth" movement has not done anything of significance in 2 years and most of it's leaders have moved on to other nonsense to make money off of.
Oz1976 9 months ago
@Oz1976 watch Was Extra Equipment Attached To Flight 175? (The plane that struck the south Twin Tower on 9/11) by 911NLP, I know your to hard headed to take in account the eye witnesses and military expertises, but they all " debunked" the governments offical story. Watch Loose change on 9/11 aswell, you probally wont because you dont want to be proven wrong. Your government is lieng to you about everything you need to open your eyes and see that.
a7x4lyfe11 9 months ago
@a7x4lyfe11 No, there wasn't. This was debunked years ago, it's actually nothing more than a shadow. I'm not the one that's hard headed...you refuse to see the evidence that is in front of your face. Loose Change is a farce. Please. The first edition was a work of total fiction, Dylan Avery's own words. Only after he saw the money in CT's did he make it "truth". Not to mention his producer, Korey Rowe is a heroin dealer. The govt isn't lying about 911. OBL and AQ perpetrated it, not the US.
Oz1976 9 months ago
@Oz1976 There is no way you can say a bright orange and white flash is a shadow, Loose changes is nothing more than first hand witnesses of the people and firemen, the 9/11 commission report was a "farce". The facts and evidence are lying in front of my face and it say that there is no way these building would collapse due to fire especially in their own foot print, WTC 7 collapsed due to fire as well even though Silverstien himself said "Pull It", witch means blow the building.
a7x4lyfe11 9 months ago
@Oz1976 Now it was debunked in 2002 by Dylan Avery, fake facts or not he addressed the facts that got everyone noticing. Jesse Ventura also believes and proves that 9/11 commission report was a cover up. If everything they told us was true, why did they stonewall us? How come the Bush administration knew about it and didn't do anything? To help prove that he was caught with blatant lie on live T.V about where he was when the planes hit the towers plus his reaction.
a7x4lyfe11 9 months ago
@a7x4lyfe11 Jesse Ventura also believes in therm*te. Have you read the commission report? It's freely available. I suggest you read it cover to cover and understand it. They didn't know about it. They knew something was coming, what, when, where, and how they did not. The fact is, 911 COULD have been avoided, but Bill Clinton failed to act. It's as much on his administration as it is on Bush's. Richard Clark warned of OBL in 1996, we could have killed him numerous times prior to 911...
Oz1976 9 months ago
@Oz1976 Failed to act, now that is something America is not good at, they start a war anytime terrorism is presented that doesn't even evolve them either. But prior to 9/11 the USAF intercepted 67 planes thought to be or have been hijacked. Now on that day there were four hijacked planes, but none of them were ever intercepted. But America did not act on that or killing Osama Bin Laden when they could to prevent terrorism. Why was it on that day there was only 15 planes to defend the country.
a7x4lyfe11 9 months ago
@Oz1976 They were all hundreds of miles away from the Pentagon and the WTC complex, flying anti threat Sim missions.
a7x4lyfe11 9 months ago
@a7x4lyfe11 Why the change of subject? That's called a Strawman argument. I can only assume you're refering to our air force jets, though that has not been mentioned in this conversation. Stay on topic. Secondly, only ONE continentally originating airplane has EVER been intercepted by NORAD. Payne Stewart's plane. Never, in the 30+ years prior to 911 has NORAD had to intercept a domestic hijack.
Oz1976 9 months ago
@Oz1976 Im not changing topic at all, I was referring to your "failed to act" remark, So I was referring to how America just seemed to have no protection that day, and the law to shoot down hijacked aircraft changed, from the militaries decision to shoot down the aircraft to the secretary of defense, just three months before 911. Norad had 67 successful interceptions of suspected hijackings and off course aircraft prior to 911 according to the associated press.
a7x4lyfe11 9 months ago
@a7x4lyfe11 The failed to act remark was in reference to Bill Clinton not killing OBL when he had the chance. Are you really this dumb, or just playing that way? LOL you're quoting David Ray Griffin's nonsense about the 67 intercepts...pro tip...they were ALL over the oceans, hence why 2 of the scrambled fighter jets who were not given direction on take off went out over the atlantic. NORAD has only intercepted ONE domestic flight ever and it took 50+ minutes, payne stewarts plane.
Oz1976 9 months ago
@Oz1976 Im not dumb at all, over the ocean or not they could of still intercepted the two planes that were still airbourne after Flight 175 hit the south tower. There were only 14 planes that day I do not know if it was planned or a coincidence. But we are getting way off the main topic here, The towers. There was obvious evidence on ground zero that there was thermite. Of course the bush Admin knew, they let it happen. There's no way those Towers could have fallen after an hour of fire damage.
a7x4lyfe11 9 months ago
@a7x4lyfe11 Could they have? Maybe had they been informed 30 minutes sooner. Maybe. Transponders were off, so no altitude information. 3000 other planes in the air over the northeast would interfere.
No there was no evidence of thermite. No slagged steal. The chemical composition was expected to be found. There was a helluva lot of Fe and Al in the WTC's. Steven Jones' "thermite" shows a 7.5 kj/h potential energy, too bad Thermite has a PTE of 4.5kj/h. It wasn't thermite.
Oz1976 9 months ago
@Oz1976 There was no slagging steel, it was sheer as it cut with a saw. Now firemen have found residue r of thermite, and melted steel in the basements. plane fuel, its max temp is 1800 degrees F and since the smoke was black that means it was oxygen starved, now the fire cant reach 1800 F with out enough oxygen, and steel melts at 2500 F, but C4 burns at 3000 F well above the melting point.
a7x4lyfe11 9 months ago
@Oz1976 the towers fell in 10 seconds. Gravity pushes down 10m/s2, which means gravity pushes down 10m/s2 with NO resistance. Which is Force of gravity. This applies to Newtons third law,which states for every action there is a reaction, and there is no way that "pancaking floors", as the commissioners say, can never fall at free-fall because of the opposite force pushing back up. Now every time that would happen you would encounter friction or resistance and that would slow down the collapse.
a7x4lyfe11 9 months ago
@Oz1976 For the towers to fall without resistance the whole steel infrastructure would of had to fail simultaneously. That is not possible without explosives, residues was found at ground zero, NASA satellites picked up hotspots days after the attacks in the ground exceeding the temperatures of fire. Firemen said they heard secondary explosions in the floors around and way below the impact zone. It's not fuel because 90% burn up in the initial fireball, and the rest burnt off within 15 minutes.
a7x4lyfe11 9 months ago
@Oz1976 This is not theory, its LAW.. Newtons LAWS of Physics.
a7x4lyfe11 9 months ago
@a7x4lyfe11 None of the laws of physics were broken that day. That's complete nonsense. Again you switch subjects. Strawman much?
Oz1976 9 months ago
@Oz1976 I said Newtons third was APPLIED, not broken. The towers fell at free fall speed, that means there was no resistance on the way down. This is a simple science fact.
a7x4lyfe11 9 months ago
except they didnt fall at free fall speed.
911NeverForget 9 months ago