劉謙Luchen Magic - 2009.03.14 - (撲克牌預言)

[thepinkmagic205]

Don't ruin magic tricks pls =="

[yf16237]

太簡單....如果是我我一定不敢表演啦...

效果和技巧有時間需要平衡一下...

[piyokung]

nice boob....

[tzcoba01]

不錯

一個簡單又有效果的魔術

[MrWilliam18]

what is this?? it's exactly the first card of the deck!!!

[carouselhan]

陳明真的腿好漂亮喔！

人家表演魔術你看哪裡啊！

[tommyleung1996]

叫雞熱線:51298334

[amigcamel]

給那種自以為是的假魔術師

對你這種人

根本不必多說

既然你那麼利害

請在電視節目上表演

證明一下你的實力

再來屁

[joeylohk]

這麼簡單的魔術, 在大師級的表演中, 出來的味道就是一不樣.

魔術師和廚師其實有點像, 明明是知道材料, 流程, 做法的, 但是做出來味道同效果就有很大差別.

我們欣賞魔術師表演, 除了技藝, 就是欣賞這種魅力了.

[sfkong]

PAULCHENPOGI: yes, shi de.... TA. As also is a few of LuChen's latest performances. :)

[PAULCHENPOGI]

比來就不用比較那個魔術師比較厲害

這是沒有意義的討論~

至於劉謙老師在春晚表演 橡皮筋魔術很好阿~ 讓魔術熱起來不是很好嗎?

要怪就要怪那麼多人在網路上破解

還是你們希望越少人玩魔術越好?

越多人玩魔術 魔術界才會更進步~

[FrankMindFreak]

說真的,我覺得越少人玩越好,魔術的密秘本來就越少人知道越好,­大家都玩魔術,你變給誰看,大家都知到奧密,你玩個屁阿!

[malgdeh]

那你就先不要玩了! 多人玩有什麼關係, 玩得好才是重點, 魔術不在乎簡單不簡單, , 就是你知道手法也不重要整個表現流程反而重要!

[sfkong]

Hehe.... PH - TA (^_^)v Magician will understand this :)

[PAULCHENPOGI]

這在 TA有嗎? XD

[jackliw]

这个世界就是有太多喜欢破解魔术的人，才会导致许多有名气的魔术­师从一开始变真魔术到后来的假魔术，这些假魔术所呈现的效果近乎­完美，出现破绽的机会微乎其微，但这些所谓的魔术，不过是一群人­在演一出魔术秀给电视机前的观众看罢了！真是让人越看越心痛。

[givemegold]

play saying luchen suck should stfu. it is hard to do a NEW magic every single week for the past 2years since the show started. every week he performs 1 to 3 different magic tricks, even a world champ will run out of magic tricks at sometime. he performed more than 100+ magic i would assume, if u cant do that than stfu PLZ.

[richabalone]

真的有點明顯= =

[malgdeh]

People keep reveal his tricks is not Lu's problem, do not put everything on Lu's shoulder!

[jamie318magic]

而且劉謙又不是第一個表演rubberband magic的人, 亦不是他表演過後才有破解, 要怪就怪那些破解魔術的人, 跟劉謙有什麼關系?! 現在很多魔術都已被人破解了, 但只要表演得好, 一樣會有人讚賞, 不要再針對他了! 不是出了劉謙後, 才有人破解魔術的, 有本事你都拿個世界冠軍回來吧!

[FrankMindFreak]

Rubberband的魔術被毀掉當然跟劉謙有密不可分的關係,­要不是他在收視率最高的春晚節目表演,很少人會去注意那魔術,況­且劉謙在華人中知明名度很高, 沒錯在劉謙表演Rubberband魔術之前就有教學在yout­ube上面,但那時後不像現在那麼引人耳,現在大家都知到那魔術­是如何辦到的, 那魔術本來我也常變給別人看,而且觀眾的反應都很強烈,現在跟本­沒人想看,跟廢招沒什兩樣!

[malgdeh]

So you mean famous magician can't peform magic in famous TV show?? Where is the point?????

[FrankMindFreak]

lol did I say famous magician can not perform magic in famous TV show? I said famous magician should perform more creatived or skilled magic on TV shows, not try to perform too easy trick and let fuckers to reveal them. Got it ?

[malgdeh]

Sorry, I really do not understand what you mean.....what I heard is the producers of the Chinese New Year show want Lu do some simple trick because this show is a very important for the Chinese New Year Eve, I think simple trick big impact is good for people who not well known about magic & the result is very sucess & now many people in China know more about magic & this is a BIG step for the magic culture in China!

[jamie318magic]

這是表演, 不是比賽! 不用每個表演都要創意的, 不見得Cyril的近景表演有創意, Cyril都只是照單執藥, 劉謙的表現力絕對在Cyril之上, 且多年來不斷有自創的近景魔術或將演活了一些舊魔術, Cyril在金馬獎的表演亦有騙錢之嫌, 這麼多錢請回來就只表演幾個簡單而無創意的魔術, 你那魔捧也可去參加Fism, 得獎後再回這裡批評劉謙吧! Frank!!!

[WILLY16882006]

@FrankMindFreak 你就去吃屎吧 外行看熱鬧 內行看門道 你自認口條 表演得起承轉合 氣氛能掌握得比他好? 如果可以你就去比個TMA阿 ""什麼都不是"" 你在跩個屁?? 台灣7成近距離魔術師都是以劉謙台詞當台詞 你是哪個渣!?



[jamie318magic]

一個神奇的魔術不一定係一個難度高or手法很多的魔術, 像Dan & Dave的魔術, 我們玩魔術的會覺得很強, 但對一般觀看者來說, 可能還不及一副長短牌or一個非常簡單的魔術, 其實越簡單的魔術就越難表演得好, 而且劉謙的表現能力及創意都非常高, 而且他每星期都要做節目, 請大家不要再一味只追求難度了, 這不是正確的方向, 魔術不只是難度的!

[FrankMindFreak]

我必需很殘忍的說他表演這魔術是沒創意又沒難度, 他這個魔術在我的教學帶就可找到,唯一不一樣的就是跟觀眾的互動­,那不能說是整個魔術的創意所在吧, 我所發表的觀點完全是基於他在春晚表演的橡皮筋和他最近在大魔鏡­的表現,其實我覺得劉謙的招數可能快用完了,所以才會表演這些.­..

[malgdeh]

On one hand, I agreed tht this is a very easy trick, on the other hand I don't think Cyril is better than Lu especially on card trick, Lu card skill is much much better than Cyril even the double lift skill is much better than Cyril! Most of Cyril is a visual effect & all his audience just acting very surprise!

[FrankMindFreak]

I think Cyril's sleight of hand is good too.. and his magic is more fresh than Lu Chen, Lu chen needs to work hard on it..I also like Lu chen so it is sad for me to say Cyril is better than Lu Chen..

[FrankMindFreak]

Just image Cyril comes to this show and do the same trick as Lu Chen, you guys will say what the hell is Cyril doing..we all know Cyril magic is not easy to figure out and more creative!!

[IcePotatoz]

Hey guys~ What i can say is although this trick is easy..but he yet performes it very well and his skill of presentation is the best among the magician...And PLS dun say that he learn magic for almost 20 years but still performes such a easy trick because u will never know what is it the spirit of magic and u will never learn about it...So PLS STFU .. THX

[FrankMindFreak]

If Lu Chen do the same level of this magic for 5 weeks, I bet you will change your mind and you will say what is wrong with Lu Chen...

[cyrilmagiccyrilmagic]

至於這個魔術...

是怎麼變的阿

誰可以教一下?

[FrankMindFreak]

幹!看你所有的雞歪留言,你不適合知道太多魔術機密,你不是會保­密的人!

[weyoyouwe]

阿勒~~

這....太簡單了吧~

[mturtle1991]

Okay. Looks like there're people here who claimed to be smarter then Lu Chen. Why not come up with your own set of tricks and show us here in youtube? Thanks.

[FrankMindFreak]

I don't think people claimed they are smarter than Lu Chen in this video comment..we just feel Lu Chen shouldn't perform too easy trick without skills on TV shows. we feel that is too danger becasue these magic will get exposed easily, hope you know what I mean. Thank you!

[Wellpinit]

This is a terrible trick. He should not use this method for a TV show. He could have used any other Force, I know he does the Classic Force extremely well, or even a Riffle Force will work. This force however is a mistake. Perhaps it works great for a few people when performing live but on TV which always ends up on youtube the method is very obvious after a second viewing by ANY ONE.

[xsxwxx]

i still dont really get it...i get part of the trick but not all of it

[FrankMindFreak]

說真的這幾週劉謙的表演給我一個錯覺,它讓我覺得其實劉謙和我的­實力在伯仲之間,他並沒有比我強多少,他變的這些魔術也就是我私­下常變給別人看的魔術,讓我覺得知名的魔術師也只不過如此而已,­以前我都覺得劉謙好厲害,他的魔術是我一個遙不可及的目標,但最­近他的表演讓我感覺其實他也只不過是這樣,這不該是一個玩了二十­幾年魔術的魔術師該有的表現....

[givemegold]

so what ur saying is that professional magicians cant perform "easy" tricks? magic doesnt matter if it is hard or easy, it has the effect and the shock to spectators is what matters. one example: luchen performed "ambitious card" in one of the shows, so whoever can perfrom ambitious card has the same skill as him? i highly doubt that.

[FrankMindFreak]

we all know Lu Chen is so famous and so many people watch his magic shows now. Of course, he can perform easy tricks but he shouldn't..he will kill magic if he does it a lot. I think Lu Chen needs to be more creative like Cyril. If Lu Chen wants to perform, then he needs to make it more complex not to be obvious.

[kamanvdo]

although it had not any difficult skill,

but i still love it.coz lu chen completed it wif a nice presentation.

and....please respect .....

[FrankMindFreak]

that is true not everyone who can perform ambitious can be as good as Lu Chen. I said it becasue I was mad after Lu Chen killed rubberband magic..and he is still doing the same shit on TV shows

[givemegold]

well, luchen didnt kill the rubberband magic. he just performed it, he cant help that people will try every single attempt to reveal and expose his magic even with an effect as awesome as the "ring into egg" effect(no idea wtf is wrong with china for doing that). and every magician got they tricks exposed at one time or another i will bet. but for magic wat matters is when the time the shock got sent to the audience. oye and youtube pretty much killed magic for letting everyone put on tutorials.

[malgdeh]

He just perform rubber band magic, he didn't kill it, actually many reveal video on youtube before he do this trick !!!! So who kill the rubber band magic?? Not Lu I think!!!!

[FrankMindFreak]

Indeed, youtube revealed the rubberband magic before Lu Chen performed it, but Lu Chen perform it on famous TV shows..it makes more people to know the secret of rubberband and more people wants to reveal it, you can see there are more rubberband revealed video on youtube because of Lu Chen..

[malgdeh]

Agreed!!!! People knows magic know how to do "ambitious card" BUT I guess no one can do as smooth as Lu, his pass & double lift is very very top!!!

[sp60664]

this only reveal u dun study magic much

the point for a magic to work is its presentation but not its sleight

If u can present a coin vanish well, it can be as sick as david copperfield's illusion

if u can rly perform well as luchen does, well thats glad

otherwise plx STFU

[FrankMindFreak]

I agree with you.. I said it becasue I was mad at Lu Chen. It is too risk to perfrom easy magic by a famous magician becasue so many people are watching him and so many fuckers want to reveal them..I just want to protect the art of magic nothing else, just don't get me wrong, actually we have the same viewpoints!

[FrankMindFreak]

說真的本來我覺得劉謙和Cyril是一樣厲害的魔術師但如今我覺­得Cyril比劉謙強太多了,光是創意劉謙就輸一大截了,手法也­不如Cyril,劉謙在日本有做街頭魔術表演但漏洞太多.

[FrankMindFreak]

說真的,我對劉謙最近在大魔鏡的表演有點失望,變的東西沒創意又­太簡單, 一個知名的魔術師在電視上變簡單的魔術是等於在摧殘魔術,因為很­多垃圾會去破解,春晚的橡皮筋魔術就是血淋淋的例子,現在大家都­知道怎麼變的,這一點讓我對劉謙非常的生氣 那魔術我也很喜歡但如今確毀於一旦,現在我要是變那橡皮筋也沒幾­個人要看了, 讓我不得不懷疑劉謙的實力了.

[sp60664]

So u do think that a magician should perform more difficult tricks when he continues his career?

it this is the case then those working on stage illusion must have already run out of tricks long time ago

The rubberband trick u mentioned is a very good example, it is a small trick but invented by the great illusionist, David copperfield

[givemegold]

劉謙在暗爽 呵呵 十指緊扣的時候

[netsnake666]

我相信是酬劳太少...

所以他就表演这种程度的魔术... = =

（I think they give the cost is just little...

So Lu Chen perform the little magic...）

[sp60664]

its ok that the effect comes out

but it is dangerous to perform on tv

[icelemonkenn]

yeah yeah... i aso c how to do...

[icebati]

a very good idea of a simple force!

[darnit666]

really really obvious haha

[chocomaro]

the point of the show isnt how its done, quit ruining it for everyone else.

[constra2001]

技术在洗牌上。而且这个魔术只能变一次

[edai]

nicely done but quite obvious lol, i don't know how no one actually noticed it....but still, very good presentation cuz liu qian is the best!!!!!!!