THE PROCESS OF FILM SCORING PART 3 of 6

[Lesttab]

to be a good music composer are you suppose to play piano as your main instrument? if no are there examples of film scorers that barely play piano?

[RichardKleiner]

You should have added the videos, to see what's going on. It would have been interesting. But, good video, overall.

[Brinemusic]

One word! Amazing, couldn't ask for better wisdom about scores!

[CedricKristian]

Soo funny, this guy filming this audience who doesn't has a small idea that they will be watched by 20000 youtube viewers (:

[leviterande]

wow the mockup was very good, not so much worse at all, remmeber the cost

[gonz5mar]

I'm amazed by the similarity of the mock-up and the live orchestra....

[SadderYetWiser]

Thanks!



[iatealltheLps]

I love you guys for posting lessons like this. Thanks!

[enigmism4life]

can anyone point me to some of the software people use to make such high quality mock-ups?

[evalily1]

@enigmism4life

I know that I use Proppelerhead's Reason. And now I use their Reason+Record bundle. I used to use Pro Tools exclusively with Reason, but what I use now is so much more intuitive for a musician with experience. They use what is called a ReFill and its a different way of approaching synth that sounds much better. I was able to use the mock ups from that in a score for an independent film with a few live instruments.

[delpimpo]

@enigmism4life probably East West Quantum Leap. Symphobia 2 is also a good software.

[johnny102marvin]

It was amazing to hear the difference between the mock up and the rendition put forth by a live orchestra. There is no way you can surpass the dynamics, nuances, and emotional output of a collection of live musicians putting their heart into a performance.

[DanielCiurlizza]

You're absolutely right. Though it is possible to pretend the dynamics are real through editing. Volume changes and what not.

[IntoxicatedTV]

@johnny102marvin

this is true and probably will always will be, but the soundsnowadays have become such a good alternative that you can almost create the same emotion when you are on budget.

400/minute..for an orchestra.. wow.

[almondtealeaf2]

I found this video to be entertaining because I'm striving to be an animator and I love how music complements any movie or tv show live action or animated.

[PierceHardwood]

(Continued)

The subtle nuances of real acoustics one would perceive at a piano or with a real instrument are typically lost with soundfonts (though not necessarily synths), so composition isn't done with these nuances in mind.

I know this is speaking generally, and this isn't to discredit composers who work this way. It's simply saying that by this being a prerequisite, it solicits the exclusion of those who would rather use their aural perceptive abilities with acoustic instruments.

[PierceHardwood]

Thank you for uploading this. I must protest this "industry standard" usage of soundfonts as mock-ups. It is my belief that this happening of "sounding so real" leads composers to write and orchestrate using these soundfonts. Though this may be alright for James Newton Howard and Hans Zimmer (one of whom is a great composer), the fact that is has become a necessity decreases the chances of composers and orchestrators who would rather use their imagination and put in some effort. (Continued.)

[BrainScar300]

wtf is that at 4:30

[TheTruth006]

I noticed that there are some weird looking people sitting in on this lecture.

[LuciferKermit]

Thanks for posting this, really interesting stuff

[dbocaz]

Thanks for watching!  Check out our other videos such as our Grammy series.

[Rani9000]

very instructive videos, thanks a lot for posting.

one question: what program is used for that mock-up?

there's no way i can make Sibelius sound that good even by copying a Beethoven symphony with nuances and phrasing..

i might do something wrong or miss something.

Thanks for your help.

[Danman87]

Since the mock-up was done by James Newton Howard I'd say it's orchestrated with Eastwest Symphonic Orchestra. Quite a lot of A-List composers are using this library for their mock-ups.

[TheDebate1]

I wanna know what program is used for that mock up??? It sounds a lot better than Sibelius which I am using for my comp degree!!!

[arschsau123]

Finally, youtube is good for something....

[johntkucz]

haha!! While this is very useful and informative and illuminating and awesome....youtube's ALWAYS been good for something!!! haha :D

[navidsonpuzzle]

ahh, i guess it's Treasure Planet(2002)?

[dbocaz]

Yes, Treasure Planet.

[navidsonpuzzle]

what movie is the score you hear in the end from? I can't quite make it out. something + planet?

and this is really useful -thanks for sharing!

[dragonfliesmusic]

dbocaz....THANK YOU SO MUCH for sharing this! What an inspiring bunch of information! Yes, it would have been nice to be able to see the film clips, but it's a priviledge enough just to be able to watch this as though we were in the class room. Thanks ! ! ! !

[dbocaz]

You're very welcome. Next time I'll work on getting copies of what is being used by the instructor and make sure they have permission before hand as well. Doing a film of a film never works :)

[chuckrios1981]

at 4:30...i think thats "sex" from so you think you can dance,lol. not sure though, but it looks a lot like him!

[flufci]

This is wonderful, so helpful. I just wish they showed the actual video examples.

[dbocaz]

We'd have to get special permission for that. We'll try to do that if we get to do something like this again.

[firewithin20]

Music Editing good