You go ahead and heed that warning in Jeremiah there, but I want you to search the Bible for all the OTHER verses that speak well of the heart and feelings. You have it all lopsided. There is good and bad in everything. The Bible says ill of the TONGUE and yet I am sure you still go around spouting off once in a while.
@imbiased James 3:6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.
So I guess with your logic on Jeremiah 17:9, the tongue is so bad that nothing good can come of it.
But Jesus said preach the gospel, and we have to use our tongues to speak, so...
ILLOGICAL!
Matt 12:35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth GOOD things!
@mormonanswerman James is referring to being mindful of what you say. I am not sure how you are relating that to Jeremiah 17:9 that says the heart is wicked, as in you can not base your faith on feelings because you can not rely on emotions to guide you honestly.
Where did you get this film? I have it from the D&C visual resources dvd set, but this version that you have here is extended. Where can i find it for sale? Thanks!
At 43:00 we learn that when life is tough, really tough, the Lord is still there and its all part of our growing experience. We are reminded, the Lord Jesus Christ suffered more than anyone in this life, and He was the greatest of all. Suffering is to be expected as a part of life, and how we deal with it is the test.
While many in their hell are the evil and wicked of the world, many are innocent souls who tried to conduct their lives to the best of their knowledge and abilities. There are hundreds of millions who would have accepted the True Son of God had they been given the chance.
The trinitarian god(s) created more souls to be condemned to hell than will ever be exalted to heaven.
They have absolutely nothing to offer me. I see no reason to abandon my beliefs.
If their god(s) is omnipotent, he(they) could have made a way for ALL to participate. Because of this I REJECT their trinitarian jesus. I refuse to accept a god who is so uncaring, unloving, and unjust that he ignores the prayers and pleadings of the vast majority of his human creations.
This will send me to their hell, but I do this of my own free will and choice. In their hell, I will be among the billions who were never given a free will and choice.
What do the trinitarians have to offer the world? Their trinitarian god(s) created this world, provided billions of souls to occupy it, and sent a redeemer to save those souls so they could return to heaven. However, he(they) made a limited effort to give those billions access to the key of redemption--the chance to know that redeemer and ACCEPT or REJECT him. Then he(they) condemns those billions to hell because they didn't accept the redeemer the majority never even heard of.
Thank you for posting this. Joseph Smith is a Prophet of God. Men may fight against this simple truth but they can't tear down what God has built up. God himself and his son Jesus Christ appeared to Joseph Smith and chose him to restore the church. This is true!
I have been blessed to have served a mission at the Temple Square just recently! This movie and this gospel is a marvelous work. And just seeing my mission area once again, I can not help myself but cry. I love this gospel and I have a testimony of this true church. Thank you for posting this movie, it is definetly one of my favorites:)
"And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,"
2:28, the preacher says that "we must repent and be baptized. It is the only path to His kingdom," and in this he says well, but he speaks without the knowledge of God. He does not know how to answer the idea that if someone dies without it through no fault of their own, such as an infant death, etc., his understanding would say God sends such souls to hell. and what nonsense that idea is, that God is a partial God, a respector of persons. He is not.
Such a trial of faith at 18:16, it would make the weak in faith surely quit and consider themselves judged by God. That's what I LOVE about Joseph Smith and Emma, they were faithful through all of the trials that the Lord tested them with, and they did not quit. Many of the children died, and they continued to love the Lord. They were so great and faithful. I am touched by their strength in their sorrows.
The preacher says at 14:40 to a grieving Joseph at the graveside of his brother:
"Alvin is lost but there is still hope for you" and this because Alvin never was baptized.
Alvin said to Joseph:
"I can't believe God would want to save just a few of us." and so the doctrines of churches in their day did not make sense to Alvin, nor did it to Joseph. We have since learned that God does want to save everybody, and although baptism is needed, it is offered by proxy by authority, to all in temples.
The preacher says at 9:05 that "there are no such things as visions and revelations in these days" to which I ask, why not? Where in the bible does it say that these things ever ceased? It does not. Actually, there were many many revelations that followed after Jesus Christ, and they were what has become the New Testament. It never stopped until apostasy caused it. But God never shut the door. MAN shut the door as they killed the apostles and forsook what He gave them... MAN shut that door.
@mormonanswerman The Bible actually does say they will cease. Please consider 1 Corinthians 13:8 where prophesy is said to cease, of which "visions and revelations" are surely included. By the way, I am inclined to agree with you that there were many revelations after Christ, for many of these became documents forming the NT canon.
@IvanDefendingTruth The context of that scripture is placing the supreme importance on charity, and has nothing to do with shutting off the heavens. If Jesus said to pray always, then prayer stands as an enduring doctrine. If James 1:5 says to pray to get wisdom, then there is our answer. Revelation was to endure.
Again, the point Paul was making is that charity will never fail, although an apostasy would cease the other things. YET, they were all restored. Thus, the Restoration.
@mormonanswerman Wisdom is not the same as revelation or visions. Let's not confuse them. True, saints and others could be taught and edified through visions and revelations but they are not synonymous.
And I'm not sure charity is in view here. Paul is contrasting love, an enduring long lasting quality versus finite, limited capabilities of which Paul says prophesy is but one.
@IvanDefendingTruth Wisdom is based on the truth. No one is wise who is fooled (or foolish). Knowing truth and not being deceived is something that can only come from revelation from God when there is otherwise no way to find out by man's ways. If Joseph Smith says he saw God, there is NO WAY that I can know this to be true by the ways of man. I can only ask God myself and get the wisdom I seek to not be fooled. Wisdom IS the same as revelation in many cases, because God will reveal it.
@mormonanswerman The context of 1 Corinthians 13:8 is a contrast between love--an enduring long lasting quality and the finite, ending and limited ability of prophesying, which Paul says will cease. The context is not charity. Paul, as an Apostle, did not teach prophecy would continue. That is actually against his teaching.
The Church of Jesus Christ was restored once again. Lots of prophecy and revelation were given. Priesthood authority restored, all things made new again as they were when Jesus originally gave them. Paul did prophesy that there would be a FALLING AWAY before this RESTORATION.
2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first...
@mormonanswerman Indeed, it did. But it probably ended with John the Seer, that is, the author of Revelation. The church of Jesus never ceased to exist so that it at one time needed to be "restored once again," as if humankind were without hope until the 19th century. The great apostasy didn't mean that the church would cease existing but that it would become mre difficult to decipher between wheat and weeds.
@IvanDefendingTruth Jesus died, and went to heaven, and the apostles were talking about a restoration here:
Acts 3: 20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: 21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
The restitution of all things.
That happened/began in 1820 with Jesus calling Joseph Smith as His prophet.
How do you know it is "the power of the Holy Ghost" which leads you to believe Mormonism "is true"? I'm curious to know because it seems very subjective, almost like a personal experience validates a belief.
@IvanDefendingTruth There is no doubt that all of our experiences in this life could be labeled as subjective, because, they really are. So?
Personal experiences Do validate belief, if those experiences are real to us and do back up the premise of the belief. If I pray to God and get an answer to my prayers as a result, that is proof to me. More than validation, it is evidence to me.
@mormonanswerman If a Hindu experiences Krishna, does that mean that this experience and therefore this G/god is real and true? I'm not sure it does... I think we need to go beyond any subjective feelings and/or emotions to establish something as true. Surely, Jehovah's holy spirit/ghost can guide us, but at the end of the day it appears that it is not "our experience" that validates a belief. For how many other beliefs would be true if this were the sole or primary means of validating beliefs!
@IvanDefendingTruth I do not believe a Hindu has the same experiences with answers to prayer as I have had. If I did, then it would certainly render my own experiences as meaningless, and yet they were NOT meaningless, but very powerful. Show me the Hindu who says such things.
Since my experiences are meaningful in a way that I would never deny them, I embrace them. Too many people, even the majority in this world, use their heads only to find truth. EVER LEARNING and never able to find it.
@IvanDefendingTruth I understand your logic, but it is a strawman. The Hindus are not saying this, the Buddhists are not saying this, and the Catholics and Baptists too, are not claiming personal revelation as the way they have decided to choose their religion. Tradition is the prevailing factor, and pride when it comes to staying with it rather than consider other things. If everyone relied on answers from God, they would all choose the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints.
@mormonanswerman ...that is, if they prayed to know the truth of things. It may be a trial and error process, and it is, but God wants us to study things out on our own, and make decisions, and THEN He wants us to ask Him if what we have decided is right. If it is right He will cause our bosom to burn within us, and that is a powerful experience that is nothing like anything else experienced in life, so when it happens you know God did it... and if we are wrong we'll have a stupor of thought.
@mormon I'm not saying the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints doesn't have good reasons to believe what they do or at one point did, I'm just saying that choosing an organization or institution on subjective personal experiences does not validate it. This in itself is not a good reason.
I in no way intend to say that your experiences are meaningless, they aren't--but they are uniquely yours and are only proof for yourself--not for others, and so not objectively true.
@IvanDefendingTruth If I was close to you, and I had been to China and came back to tell you about my experiences there, but you said, "I want nothing to do with this conversation, your experiences are yours, and you can't prove them to me, they are entirely subjective" ...I would be very disappointed that you could not just believe me. But some people, like Doubting Thomas, have to actually see for themselves, but Jesus did chide that. He said "blessed are they that have NOT seen..." John 20
@IvanDefendingTruth Things of the Spirit are to be communicated by the Spirit, if by some other way, it is not of God. I do understand that this method is inappropriate for a court of law, but God's ways are not man's ways.
Isaiah 55:8¶For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.
1 John 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
:)
TheSkepticChristian 6 months ago
Thanks for uploading! I know The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is true and it changes lives for the better!
UtahMormon90 7 months ago
Was Brigham Young a prophet?
imbiased 9 months ago
Thank you for uplooading
NeuerMormonenkanal 9 months ago
@NeuerMormonenkanal you are welcome!
mormonanswerman 9 months ago
"Feelings" do not reveal to us the truth about any subject.
Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
imbiased 9 months ago
@imbiased Yes they Do!
You go ahead and heed that warning in Jeremiah there, but I want you to search the Bible for all the OTHER verses that speak well of the heart and feelings. You have it all lopsided. There is good and bad in everything. The Bible says ill of the TONGUE and yet I am sure you still go around spouting off once in a while.
mormonanswerman 9 months ago
@imbiased James 3:6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.
So I guess with your logic on Jeremiah 17:9, the tongue is so bad that nothing good can come of it.
But Jesus said preach the gospel, and we have to use our tongues to speak, so...
ILLOGICAL!
Matt 12:35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth GOOD things!
mormonanswerman 9 months ago
@mormonanswerman James is referring to being mindful of what you say. I am not sure how you are relating that to Jeremiah 17:9 that says the heart is wicked, as in you can not base your faith on feelings because you can not rely on emotions to guide you honestly.
imbiased 9 months ago
@imbiased So according to you, why is the Bible the Word of God, and not the Book of Mormon?
TheSkepticChristian 7 months ago
Where did you get this film? I have it from the D&C visual resources dvd set, but this version that you have here is extended. Where can i find it for sale? Thanks!
smoraffah 9 months ago
@tiedeast
Would you agree or disagree with this statement?
Only those who have accepted Jesus Christ as their personal Savior and Redeemer will be resurrected, receive salvation, and be exalted into Heaven.
GaryKColeman 10 months ago
At 43:00 we learn that when life is tough, really tough, the Lord is still there and its all part of our growing experience. We are reminded, the Lord Jesus Christ suffered more than anyone in this life, and He was the greatest of all. Suffering is to be expected as a part of life, and how we deal with it is the test.
mormonanswerman 10 months ago
While many in their hell are the evil and wicked of the world, many are innocent souls who tried to conduct their lives to the best of their knowledge and abilities. There are hundreds of millions who would have accepted the True Son of God had they been given the chance.
The trinitarian god(s) created more souls to be condemned to hell than will ever be exalted to heaven.
They have absolutely nothing to offer me. I see no reason to abandon my beliefs.
GaryKColeman 10 months ago
If their god(s) is omnipotent, he(they) could have made a way for ALL to participate. Because of this I REJECT their trinitarian jesus. I refuse to accept a god who is so uncaring, unloving, and unjust that he ignores the prayers and pleadings of the vast majority of his human creations.
This will send me to their hell, but I do this of my own free will and choice. In their hell, I will be among the billions who were never given a free will and choice.
GaryKColeman 10 months ago
What do the trinitarians have to offer the world? Their trinitarian god(s) created this world, provided billions of souls to occupy it, and sent a redeemer to save those souls so they could return to heaven. However, he(they) made a limited effort to give those billions access to the key of redemption--the chance to know that redeemer and ACCEPT or REJECT him. Then he(they) condemns those billions to hell because they didn't accept the redeemer the majority never even heard of.
GaryKColeman 10 months ago
Thank you for posting this. Joseph Smith is a Prophet of God. Men may fight against this simple truth but they can't tear down what God has built up. God himself and his son Jesus Christ appeared to Joseph Smith and chose him to restore the church. This is true!
aexpiacao 10 months ago
I have been blessed to have served a mission at the Temple Square just recently! This movie and this gospel is a marvelous work. And just seeing my mission area once again, I can not help myself but cry. I love this gospel and I have a testimony of this true church. Thank you for posting this movie, it is definetly one of my favorites:)
MegaSephra 10 months ago
May I post this on my Facebook? I love it. :-)
ObiWanFan30 11 months ago
Revelation 14:6
"And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,"
omiolo2 11 months ago
A marvelous work and a wonder!
omiolo2 11 months ago
At 24:50 the classic question is brought up by a non believer, how we know. Listen to Joseph Smith's answer.
mormonanswerman 11 months ago
2:28, the preacher says that "we must repent and be baptized. It is the only path to His kingdom," and in this he says well, but he speaks without the knowledge of God. He does not know how to answer the idea that if someone dies without it through no fault of their own, such as an infant death, etc., his understanding would say God sends such souls to hell. and what nonsense that idea is, that God is a partial God, a respector of persons. He is not.
There IS a plan for these: Temples of God.
mormonanswerman 11 months ago
Such a trial of faith at 18:16, it would make the weak in faith surely quit and consider themselves judged by God. That's what I LOVE about Joseph Smith and Emma, they were faithful through all of the trials that the Lord tested them with, and they did not quit. Many of the children died, and they continued to love the Lord. They were so great and faithful. I am touched by their strength in their sorrows.
mormonanswerman 11 months ago
The preacher says at 14:40 to a grieving Joseph at the graveside of his brother:
"Alvin is lost but there is still hope for you" and this because Alvin never was baptized.
Alvin said to Joseph:
"I can't believe God would want to save just a few of us." and so the doctrines of churches in their day did not make sense to Alvin, nor did it to Joseph. We have since learned that God does want to save everybody, and although baptism is needed, it is offered by proxy by authority, to all in temples.
mormonanswerman 11 months ago
The preacher says at 9:05 that "there are no such things as visions and revelations in these days" to which I ask, why not? Where in the bible does it say that these things ever ceased? It does not. Actually, there were many many revelations that followed after Jesus Christ, and they were what has become the New Testament. It never stopped until apostasy caused it. But God never shut the door. MAN shut the door as they killed the apostles and forsook what He gave them... MAN shut that door.
mormonanswerman 11 months ago
@mormonanswerman The Bible actually does say they will cease. Please consider 1 Corinthians 13:8 where prophesy is said to cease, of which "visions and revelations" are surely included. By the way, I am inclined to agree with you that there were many revelations after Christ, for many of these became documents forming the NT canon.
IvanDefendingTruth 11 months ago
@IvanDefendingTruth The context of that scripture is placing the supreme importance on charity, and has nothing to do with shutting off the heavens. If Jesus said to pray always, then prayer stands as an enduring doctrine. If James 1:5 says to pray to get wisdom, then there is our answer. Revelation was to endure.
Again, the point Paul was making is that charity will never fail, although an apostasy would cease the other things. YET, they were all restored. Thus, the Restoration.
mormonanswerman 11 months ago
@mormonanswerman Wisdom is not the same as revelation or visions. Let's not confuse them. True, saints and others could be taught and edified through visions and revelations but they are not synonymous.
And I'm not sure charity is in view here. Paul is contrasting love, an enduring long lasting quality versus finite, limited capabilities of which Paul says prophesy is but one.
IvanDefendingTruth 11 months ago
@IvanDefendingTruth Wisdom is based on the truth. No one is wise who is fooled (or foolish). Knowing truth and not being deceived is something that can only come from revelation from God when there is otherwise no way to find out by man's ways. If Joseph Smith says he saw God, there is NO WAY that I can know this to be true by the ways of man. I can only ask God myself and get the wisdom I seek to not be fooled. Wisdom IS the same as revelation in many cases, because God will reveal it.
mormonanswerman 11 months ago
@mormonanswerman The context of 1 Corinthians 13:8 is a contrast between love--an enduring long lasting quality and the finite, ending and limited ability of prophesying, which Paul says will cease. The context is not charity. Paul, as an Apostle, did not teach prophecy would continue. That is actually against his teaching.
IvanDefendingTruth 11 months ago
@IvanDefendingTruth Well, it DID continue.
The Church of Jesus Christ was restored once again. Lots of prophecy and revelation were given. Priesthood authority restored, all things made new again as they were when Jesus originally gave them. Paul did prophesy that there would be a FALLING AWAY before this RESTORATION.
2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first...
mormonanswerman 11 months ago
@mormonanswerman Indeed, it did. But it probably ended with John the Seer, that is, the author of Revelation. The church of Jesus never ceased to exist so that it at one time needed to be "restored once again," as if humankind were without hope until the 19th century. The great apostasy didn't mean that the church would cease existing but that it would become mre difficult to decipher between wheat and weeds.
IvanDefendingTruth 11 months ago
@IvanDefendingTruth Jesus died, and went to heaven, and the apostles were talking about a restoration here:
Acts 3: 20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: 21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
The restitution of all things.
That happened/began in 1820 with Jesus calling Joseph Smith as His prophet.
mormonanswerman 11 months ago
@mormonanswerman In the context of Acts, the "restoration" is in relation to the kingdom (Acts 1:6).
IvanDefendingTruth 11 months ago
What a great movie. I do know it is true by the power of the Holy Ghost. This version is the most recent one, narrated by Lucy Mack Smith.
mormonanswerman 11 months ago
@mormonanswerman Hi!
How do you know it is "the power of the Holy Ghost" which leads you to believe Mormonism "is true"? I'm curious to know because it seems very subjective, almost like a personal experience validates a belief.
IvanDefendingTruth 11 months ago
@IvanDefendingTruth There is no doubt that all of our experiences in this life could be labeled as subjective, because, they really are. So?
Personal experiences Do validate belief, if those experiences are real to us and do back up the premise of the belief. If I pray to God and get an answer to my prayers as a result, that is proof to me. More than validation, it is evidence to me.
mormonanswerman 11 months ago
@mormonanswerman If a Hindu experiences Krishna, does that mean that this experience and therefore this G/god is real and true? I'm not sure it does... I think we need to go beyond any subjective feelings and/or emotions to establish something as true. Surely, Jehovah's holy spirit/ghost can guide us, but at the end of the day it appears that it is not "our experience" that validates a belief. For how many other beliefs would be true if this were the sole or primary means of validating beliefs!
IvanDefendingTruth 11 months ago
@IvanDefendingTruth I do not believe a Hindu has the same experiences with answers to prayer as I have had. If I did, then it would certainly render my own experiences as meaningless, and yet they were NOT meaningless, but very powerful. Show me the Hindu who says such things.
Since my experiences are meaningful in a way that I would never deny them, I embrace them. Too many people, even the majority in this world, use their heads only to find truth. EVER LEARNING and never able to find it.
mormonanswerman 11 months ago
@IvanDefendingTruth I understand your logic, but it is a strawman. The Hindus are not saying this, the Buddhists are not saying this, and the Catholics and Baptists too, are not claiming personal revelation as the way they have decided to choose their religion. Tradition is the prevailing factor, and pride when it comes to staying with it rather than consider other things. If everyone relied on answers from God, they would all choose the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints.
mormonanswerman 11 months ago
@mormonanswerman ...that is, if they prayed to know the truth of things. It may be a trial and error process, and it is, but God wants us to study things out on our own, and make decisions, and THEN He wants us to ask Him if what we have decided is right. If it is right He will cause our bosom to burn within us, and that is a powerful experience that is nothing like anything else experienced in life, so when it happens you know God did it... and if we are wrong we'll have a stupor of thought.
mormonanswerman 11 months ago
@mormon I'm not saying the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints doesn't have good reasons to believe what they do or at one point did, I'm just saying that choosing an organization or institution on subjective personal experiences does not validate it. This in itself is not a good reason.
I in no way intend to say that your experiences are meaningless, they aren't--but they are uniquely yours and are only proof for yourself--not for others, and so not objectively true.
IvanDefendingTruth 11 months ago
@IvanDefendingTruth If I was close to you, and I had been to China and came back to tell you about my experiences there, but you said, "I want nothing to do with this conversation, your experiences are yours, and you can't prove them to me, they are entirely subjective" ...I would be very disappointed that you could not just believe me. But some people, like Doubting Thomas, have to actually see for themselves, but Jesus did chide that. He said "blessed are they that have NOT seen..." John 20
mormonanswerman 11 months ago
@IvanDefendingTruth Things of the Spirit are to be communicated by the Spirit, if by some other way, it is not of God. I do understand that this method is inappropriate for a court of law, but God's ways are not man's ways.
Isaiah 55:8¶For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.
1 John 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
mormonanswerman 11 months ago