I see comments about OWS, I see comments about the Tea Party, but why is no one concerned with the growing presence of suppressing speech? The Comedian is the personification of of government corruption and control, so what happened to the "American Dream"? He's right, 'you're looking at it,' and he personifies best.
Wha? Part of the scene was cut out! Comedian's like "CRAWL BACK IN YER HOLES BEFORE YOU GET HURT! I GOT TEAR GAS, I GOT RUBBER BULLETS!" and people are yelling at him, and someone throws a can or bottle and it hits Comedian in the head, and then it continues from 00:51.
love this scene- bunch of anarchist punks getting their asses kicked. anyone who breaks the law and gets pissed off at police for trying to make them stop, are in my book a bunch of punks and need to get their asses kicked. dont like something in america? do what the tea party does and organize lawfully and stop whining.
@ranchump America has and always will be a complicated lass. We are so quick to hate and tell the world how much. As a world.. we need to come together. If we don't WE ALL DIE!!
Office's Edward Blake and Daniel Dreiberg are under investigation after charges were brought up after the two officer's were assisting in disbursing a riot late last night after things got violent. Detective Walter Kovacs and Laurie Juspeczyk are investing the events that took place. Police Captain Adrian Veidt made no comment about the matter. Major Jonathan Osterman will address this issue at the next city hall meeting. Well shit! We watch this movie everyday! lol.
@elcheeserpuff Seriously? Do you even LISTEN to the news? Do you WATCH videos? Try googling 'Occupy Wall Street Violence' and you will find plenty of footage that shows what they really are.
@AnonDude2 Every single act of violence has occurred as a direct result of police brutality similar to what is seen in this video. You're kidding yourself if you think the OWS protesters are anything like the rioters in this video. And you worry me if you think a response to any protest occurring in a democracy deserves a violent reaction from the government. It' is not the government's job to shut up its people.
in the director's cut the comedians explains that he has rubber bullets, and the crowd taunts him more, and one of them hits him in the face with a can.
@EuromanMovieReport What he is saying when he said "it came true" is that everyone has it made in america now so we have nothing better to do than bitch about our government and celebs and all other kinds of bullshit. Even the poor in america have it made. The Comedian is actually not 100% wrong.
@Mehul1982 God help you brother... Wish they'd deploy my ass to your neighborhood so I could help you clean up. Sure as hell have no business in Afghanistan anymore
@Mehul1982 public violence and problems occur when the government and policies have created enough problems for people to be pissed. cracking skulls and tear gassing doesn't solve shit all, what it does is quell one single riot or protest. you need to solve the problems that cause inequality first and foremost. often a high living standard is all people need to be quiet, cheap food, running water, electricity and healthcare. whether they have high enough pay cheques or if its cheap enuff for em
I had to watch this after seeing the Insanity in England, the latest in a series of rioting in Europe. Are we in the US really so far behind in seeing this sort of insanity coming to our shores? Even though this is fiction and the Comedian is a creep, he's right. The Dream came true, and now we're paying the price.
I wish they had included the scene of Dr. Manhattan and Laurie taking care of the riot in Washington, D.C. It was one of the few comic relief bits of the novel.
Dr. Manhattan: "Attention, you will all return to your homes..."
Rioter: "Yeah!? And what if we don't?"
Dr. Manhattan: "You misunderstand. I'm not asking."
*everyone is teleported away in a flash of blue light*
I liked how nearly every Watchman had a different view on humanity, Nite Owl and Silk Spectre still try to see all the good and keep peace non-violently, the comedian had no hope for humanity at all, Rorschach was just a pyschopath that believed in the most extreme means of justice but knew that people don't change and in the end Veidt and Dr. Manhattan used humanity's basic instinct for war and violence and made a situation so they could unite because of it, such a fucking badass movie !!!
I guess the fiction is closer to the truth than we thought. The sadness in his voice and the utter and bitter truth about the so called "american dream" is such that in our un/subconscious mind we know how right he is. And that why, most ppl did not like the movie. I did. Truth hurts and Truth with Facts hurt even more.
@242nd he didnt realy kill them he was shooting in the air to scare them off and the guy he shot with the smoke gernade just probably got hurt realy bad at least thats what i hope happend
I understand Watchmen: it's a brutal deconstruction of the archetypal superheroes. On the other hand that doesn't excuse somone beating up protesters.
I'm really sorry for making this question, but... what "the american dream has become true" really means? I read the graphic novel and saw the movie, but I can't undertand it at all.
PS: Sorry for my english. My native language is spanish.
@Milenkachan The American Dream is the right to do whatever you like in a free society without being prosecuted. The Comedian says it has come true because he's issuing his own brand of crowd control without interference from the law. You can't really do this in real though, unfortunately...
@Milenkachan It has for them, too. They are protesting,which is something you can do without being prosecuted. Although success isn't certain, obviously.
@Milenkachan Sencillo el dice... q el sueño americano se hizo realidad... pues obviamente, la gente hace lo q le de la gana, no respeta las leyes ni nada por el estilo ps! o eso fue lo q yo entendi xD! saludos!
@ratedgaborko Bueno, sí, eso es. Creo que al fin despejé un poco mis dudas. Había pensado en el hecho de que el sueño americano que el Comediante le muestra a Nite Owl era uno donde reinada la destrucción; por eso pensé "¿pero cómo la gente va a querer esto?". Pero claro, es sólo una consecuencia de sus deseos volviéndose realidad. El Comediante era muy, muy inteligente para ver esto. Gracias :)
@Milenkachan Basically the comedian. The american dream that we know it is achieving prosperity through life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The Comedian is saying they got all that , but in the process have lost all respect for authority. So pretty much the freedom to do anything. This is what makes watchmen kinda conservative. It basically says that were fucked when we don't have authority.
@Josh0473 i dont really think watchmen tries to say that particularly, but more tries to say that mankind in general is simply one chaotic, destructive and stupid race by nature. except for the two 'boring' characters (spectre/owl), every character has his own way of dealing with that conclusion. may it be cynism (comedian), indifference (manhattan), hope/obstinacy (rorschach), or escape to pure rationality (veidt). even with authority, there are few reasons for hope.
@staxstix Great point. We could talk about so many aspects when is comes to the scenes from Watchmen. Just gives me a respect to how complex Moore's work is.
I believe Watchmen is a work that transcends political bias. It criticizes the black and white view of the right wing, but also criticizes the chaotic nature that is apparent in the left wing.
It's more of a story about human nature, about our morality. Each of our own indv. basic principles make up the fabric of American society. We have our pros, and we have our flaws. If we can overcome our flaws, whether you're liberal or conservative, you can create a better place for peace and prosperity.
@ElegeantFencer The biggest problem with America society in the modern day as I see it, is that we have allowed the lunatic fringes of both the Left wing and the Right wing to fuck over the roughly 90% of American society that is actually sane and rational. These are the same lunatics that are currently running the US government and screwing us out of our liberties. But I do agree with you that Watchmen is more play on the ambiguity of human nature thatn anything else.
@Josh0473 you could also say that he thinks the american dream was an illusion from the beginning, never meant to be real but always seemingly in reach, what they got was a perveterd version of it wich only superficially reflects the american dream.
@Josh0473 Actually watchmen not only sends a conservative view that's only the view of Comedian the rest of the group each have their own individual views. As Alan Moore said that's kind of the point of Watchmen to provide different views of the world.
I don't think that's what the author meant. Alan Moore says that he considers himself an anarchist, which is virtually the exact opposite of a conservative. He also obviously doesn't like his own creations, and thinks the superheroes are the ones that ruined society(in the comic, not real life. I guess they're a stand in for government figures).
@Josh0473 Hey, cant fight for freedom... Because you cant fight for something that does not exist. People need structure and order in life but they want "freedom"... Cant have it both ways folks!
@Josh0473 without order nothing can exist, without chaos, nothing can evolve, authority is the only way to achievement, and order, if you prefer anarchy......
RON PAUL 2012.
Otherwise, this is what we will be seeing all across America in 5 years.
SenatorTonyKreutzer 19 hours ago
I see comments about OWS, I see comments about the Tea Party, but why is no one concerned with the growing presence of suppressing speech? The Comedian is the personification of of government corruption and control, so what happened to the "American Dream"? He's right, 'you're looking at it,' and he personifies best.
smo699 20 hours ago
Hahahahahahaha totally pissed myself when he hit that girl XD
jamirflyd 2 days ago
damn hippies
NappyFanBoy 4 days ago
the song only reminds me of mclovin trying to get that hot bitch
jrdy29 2 weeks ago
Punched that Bitch right back to the kitchen!
smantoff 3 weeks ago 2
You were right, Dad.
You were right.
sirlegendhead 3 weeks ago
Wha? Part of the scene was cut out! Comedian's like "CRAWL BACK IN YER HOLES BEFORE YOU GET HURT! I GOT TEAR GAS, I GOT RUBBER BULLETS!" and people are yelling at him, and someone throws a can or bottle and it hits Comedian in the head, and then it continues from 00:51.
F4fullpower 3 weeks ago
love this scene- bunch of anarchist punks getting their asses kicked. anyone who breaks the law and gets pissed off at police for trying to make them stop, are in my book a bunch of punks and need to get their asses kicked. dont like something in america? do what the tea party does and organize lawfully and stop whining.
ranchump 1 month ago
@ranchump America has and always will be a complicated lass. We are so quick to hate and tell the world how much. As a world.. we need to come together. If we don't WE ALL DIE!!
jtownmassacre 1 month ago 2
@ranchump Fuck the Tea Party bitch. Occupy Wall Street forever!
mofojim1 6 days ago
Office's Edward Blake and Daniel Dreiberg are under investigation after charges were brought up after the two officer's were assisting in disbursing a riot late last night after things got violent. Detective Walter Kovacs and Laurie Juspeczyk are investing the events that took place. Police Captain Adrian Veidt made no comment about the matter. Major Jonathan Osterman will address this issue at the next city hall meeting. Well shit! We watch this movie everyday! lol.
TheKato909 1 month ago
Change the movie's name to NYPD, LAPD!
TheKato909 1 month ago
No Seriously, what did happen to the American dream?
foodbug 2 months ago
@foodbug It's dead and gone, American has turned into the center of corruption and greed in the world...
illshockyou 2 months ago
@illshockyou Or you could see it as the Comedian does: "It came true." Probably inevitably killed itself in the process.
TumasMuscat 1 month ago
@illshockyou It's dead and gone?!? What are you talking about? It's not gone! It came true.... You're looking at it...
Qrtzapp 1 month ago
wish we had him on "occupy wall street" to maintain civil order.
prbetty719 2 months ago
@prbetty719 Be even better if they showed up at a 'Tea Party' rally.
mshara1 2 weeks ago
Soo why did people hate the movie? It was AWESOME!?!
finalfantasy696969 2 months ago
Funny how only most Americans don't get this.
LeCutter 2 months ago
If anybody wants to know the music when Daniel throws the Comedians smile pin in his grave it is. The American Dream by Tyler Bates.
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This is what we need to take care of those occupy wallstreet hippies.
gamefreak1000000 2 months ago
Woman: FUCK YOU! FUCK YOU!
Comedian: *punch* What the fuck did you just say bitch!? Get back in the kitchen!
ZADER4427 2 months ago 3
The Comedian: No Gender is safe from Comedy-Punch!
MRWWAYSS 2 months ago 3
The comedian takes care of business....no fucking around.
tomgreenlives 2 months ago
What can i say, the man got the job done
AleksHM 3 months ago
Woah! That looks like the Occupy Wall-Street protesters! What are they doing in the Watchmen?
AnonDude2 3 months ago 3
@AnonDude2 How does that look like Occupy Wallstreet? Occupy Wallstreet has been completely non violent. No rioting. None.
elcheeserpuff 3 months ago
@elcheeserpuff Seriously? Do you even LISTEN to the news? Do you WATCH videos? Try googling 'Occupy Wall Street Violence' and you will find plenty of footage that shows what they really are.
AnonDude2 3 months ago
@AnonDude2 Every single act of violence has occurred as a direct result of police brutality similar to what is seen in this video. You're kidding yourself if you think the OWS protesters are anything like the rioters in this video. And you worry me if you think a response to any protest occurring in a democracy deserves a violent reaction from the government. It' is not the government's job to shut up its people.
elcheeserpuff 3 months ago
@AnonDude2 Are you guys that shocked that some of your actions have consequences? Go back to college that mommy and daddy pays for.
napalmman420 2 months ago
@napalmman420 Okay, I mean quasi-good insult but what's your point?
AnonDude2 2 months ago
@AnonDude2
I would think people will assume you are right wing and leave it at that.
TheVoiceOfReason93 2 months ago
1:21 - 1:34: Epic swagger
jukkagikagi04 3 months ago
what the song when owlman throws that smiley face to the grave
narutocazuma 3 months ago
This is who we need in Rome right now
infectedhousestudios 3 months ago
I think that it's cool how the Comedian can hide how he really feels with that smile.
AmazingKiingX 3 months ago
The Comedian is like a one man Syrian Police Force.
Killzoneguy117 3 months ago
Best part of the movie-
gorosaurus101 3 months ago
The song: I'm your Boogie Man - KC And the Sunshine Band
Tottielsen 3 months ago
I love this scene
w0e31 3 months ago in playlist w0e31's Favorited Videos
Ladies first..
SCOTTpilgrimist12 4 months ago 19
what´s the song name?
91mauricio91 4 months ago
@91mauricio91 kc & the sushine band - boogie man
maurodriguesxr 4 months ago
@91mauricio91 Lover Boy
CastleTsar 4 months ago
@91mauricio91 I'm Your Boogie Man by KC and the Sunshine Band
ElongatedVowels 4 months ago
Goddamn hippies!
MrPizzaslice 4 months ago 35
@MrPizzaslice Fuckin right!
FiveStar233 3 weeks ago
in the director's cut the comedians explains that he has rubber bullets, and the crowd taunts him more, and one of them hits him in the face with a can.
departed402 4 months ago 3
@departed402 I remember that
jlafloe619 4 months ago
Gaddafi took the Comedian's job into shooting protesters lol
MultiMaxy95 4 months ago
Nixon would be proud.
TheElectron504 5 months ago
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TheSeanRules2 5 months ago
The Fucking Owl MObile
TheSeanRules2 5 months ago
the 6 people that disliked this are the onees that got beat up by the comedian.
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Obama should look at this video...
MrDejanos 5 months ago
shooting looting hippies is the american dream....
EuromanMovieReport 5 months ago 3
@EuromanMovieReport What he is saying when he said "it came true" is that everyone has it made in america now so we have nothing better to do than bitch about our government and celebs and all other kinds of bullshit. Even the poor in america have it made. The Comedian is actually not 100% wrong.
chazhegstrom 5 months ago
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"FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU"
-punch-
"ugh"
deathjudge2006 5 months ago
this is how you stop riots
MrY3110w 5 months ago 3
@MrY3110w If a goverment had actually balls to do so!!!
amarieoflothlorien 5 months ago
Kinda hypocrite to yell ''There's no need for violence'' and then send the Comedian in...
rsmovielord 5 months ago
so this is why my friends call me the comedian
akennelly1120 5 months ago
There's no need for violence!
Gilamoray 5 months ago
what the hell was he shooting out of the thumper at the end?
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This is who we need in London and other parts of the UK right now
Mehul1982 5 months ago 77
@Mehul1982 i couldnt agree more! we either need that or 300 spartans :P
thetopherhaslanded 5 months ago
@Mehul1982
Yeah I'd love to see those rioters run into Rorschach and the Comedian...
NKAJ2 5 months ago
@Mehul1982 Someone would need actually need guns to do that.
departed402 4 months ago
@Mehul1982 God help you brother... Wish they'd deploy my ass to your neighborhood so I could help you clean up. Sure as hell have no business in Afghanistan anymore
ItheSwick 3 months ago
@Mehul1982 Someone has to be retarded and brainwashed to think like this.
P.S you're not even white right? Stupid white washed motherfucker.
4llcaps 3 months ago
@Mehul1982 public violence and problems occur when the government and policies have created enough problems for people to be pissed. cracking skulls and tear gassing doesn't solve shit all, what it does is quell one single riot or protest. you need to solve the problems that cause inequality first and foremost. often a high living standard is all people need to be quiet, cheap food, running water, electricity and healthcare. whether they have high enough pay cheques or if its cheap enuff for em
2010paultron 2 months ago
We need this guy in LONDON!!!!
Jords5 5 months ago 15
@Jords5 You can be him.Just take weapons.
MrCouchmen 1 month ago
Send The Comedian to England!
NetwurkpunK 5 months ago 3
I had to watch this after seeing the Insanity in England, the latest in a series of rioting in Europe. Are we in the US really so far behind in seeing this sort of insanity coming to our shores? Even though this is fiction and the Comedian is a creep, he's right. The Dream came true, and now we're paying the price.
NodDisciple1 5 months ago
song?
thetopherhaslanded 5 months ago
I wish they had included the scene of Dr. Manhattan and Laurie taking care of the riot in Washington, D.C. It was one of the few comic relief bits of the novel.
Dr. Manhattan: "Attention, you will all return to your homes..."
Rioter: "Yeah!? And what if we don't?"
Dr. Manhattan: "You misunderstand. I'm not asking."
*everyone is teleported away in a flash of blue light*
At least, I thought it was funny. =/
boba697 6 months ago 20
@boba697 where can i see that scene?
thetopherhaslanded 5 months ago
@thetopherhaslanded In the graphic novel. My comment was saying that I wish they had included it in the movie, but they did not.
boba697 5 months ago
@boba697 oh ok
thetopherhaslanded 5 months ago
@boba697 That sounds bitching!
tomgreenlives 2 months ago
Thats what happens when you wear bell bottom pants and mess with a man in a mask with a shotgun. . .
Edolloz1191 6 months ago 3
the comedian's fucking badass here
Spystreak 6 months ago 5
that bitch got knocked the fuck out!
AcornInc 6 months ago
After 2th August 2011 United States will be under emergency state and military control. If you can, go to Canada. Till you can.
Florek777 6 months ago
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Florek777 6 months ago
the best part is how they all instantly back away the moment the comedian touches the ground
Ninji5 6 months ago
as sick as it may sound, 1:20 always makes me crack up haha
merkfools13 6 months ago
2:06 HEADSHOT!
hitschler100 6 months ago
@hitschler100 that hit him in the chest
birsic3216 6 months ago
@birsic3216 oh sry in the darkness i didnt see it.
hitschler100 6 months ago
who old will the watchmen.the group exist since 1940.
hitschler100 6 months ago
2:20 what say the comdian in german i dont understand it.
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mongolenpup 2 months ago
whats this song please some1 tell me
volcomriley93 7 months ago
@volcomriley93 I'm Your Boogie Man-KC And The Sunshine Band
Armorized 6 months ago
could have used him this morning when those Mormons knocked on my door
RiFFxxx 7 months ago 2
@RiFFxxx The ones knocking on my door are Jehovas witnesses @_@
Equally annoying?
Crunchsnap 6 months ago
could have used him in Vancouver!
Durzavon 7 months ago
oh this is getting heavy
ltooman 7 months ago
could have used him for the G20
lawnmoen 7 months ago
thumbs up for China Lake
sebbbe9308 7 months ago 4
I liked how nearly every Watchman had a different view on humanity, Nite Owl and Silk Spectre still try to see all the good and keep peace non-violently, the comedian had no hope for humanity at all, Rorschach was just a pyschopath that believed in the most extreme means of justice but knew that people don't change and in the end Veidt and Dr. Manhattan used humanity's basic instinct for war and violence and made a situation so they could unite because of it, such a fucking badass movie !!!
EmeraldFireNinja273 7 months ago
y si... se hizo realidad el sueño americano solo observen a su alrededor.,dios! como me encanta esta pelicula!
ssarmientoP 7 months ago
y si... se hizo realidad el sueño americano solo observen a su alrededor
ssarmientoP 7 months ago
he really is the boogieman!!
jorgealberto1989 7 months ago
I am the Comedian, and you will RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH!
currantbun2166 7 months ago
You know, the comedian may be an evil sonofabitch, but I'll give him one thing: he's no sexist. He beats the shit out of everyone equally!
i3xxxhot 8 months ago 59
@i3xxxhot He repented prior to his death. I blame him not and may God have mercy on his soul.
MandragGanon 3 months ago
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TheBloodmurder 3 months ago
@i3xxxhot yeah he punched that girl at 1:09
TheBloodmurder 3 months ago
Oh this is getting heavy xD
SuperMicklovin 8 months ago
1:09- Fuck you! Fuck you!
*POW*
Shut up and make me a sandwich!
truecinema 8 months ago 2
whats the name of the song thats beginning when he tosses the button into the comedians grave
epilon497 8 months ago
@epilon497 kc and the sunshine band : im your boogie man
ScottyandFriends 8 months ago in playlist workoutt
@ScottyandFriends I meant the song that starts playing with a guitar. U can hear it around 2:43
epilon497 8 months ago
Anyone else find the American Dream dialogue between dan and the comedian really, really sad?
XoNeverLetGoxoX 8 months ago 3
@XoNeverLetGoxoX
Yes, it's really sad. Or maybe bitter...
thebaldurian 8 months ago
@thebaldurian I dunno, it's liuke the music and the way the comedian just tells it like it is. gets me emotional every time.
XoNeverLetGoxoX 8 months ago
@XoNeverLetGoxoX It's sad because it's true.
NanoHorizon 7 months ago
1:32
Look at the sparkle in his eyes. :D
Trumpetiergooby 8 months ago
I guess the fiction is closer to the truth than we thought. The sadness in his voice and the utter and bitter truth about the so called "american dream" is such that in our un/subconscious mind we know how right he is. And that why, most ppl did not like the movie. I did. Truth hurts and Truth with Facts hurt even more.
mindsoulbody 8 months ago
What is this? The TV edited kiddie version?
Alien1099 8 months ago
When he starts shooting and Boogeyman is playing... man, that sequence is orgasmic
gotermate 8 months ago
whats the song playing at the beginning of the riot part?
ragingbull191 8 months ago
@ragingbull191 "Im Your Boogeyman" by KC and the Sunshing Band
DemocraticDonkey 8 months ago
Always hate protesters against those who are "different" than everyone else.
mryoshifreak 9 months ago
I think watchmen had the best non original soundtrack Ive ever heard
captainalex567 9 months ago
Effective riot control. Idiotic protestors got served.
cornking6 9 months ago
i think night owl II was my favorite character in the movie it was like he couldnt re adapt to society, i can relate sometimes
Expchrisp 9 months ago
I wouldn't say Comedian was the best of heroes,but he was right all along.
hige5678 9 months ago
1:01 "oh fuck...."
llXchonll 9 months ago
1:21 epic win
llXchonll 9 months ago
"What happened to the American Dream? It came true!
...you're lookin' at it."
That line gets me every time.
Phoenix33159 9 months ago 4
this song so fits for some reason
SGVknarf 9 months ago
press 5
thats me shooting a lagger
BladeTheHedgehog0 9 months ago
They were rubber bullets. He didn't kill them.
Qrtzapp 9 months ago
I don't know why they like this guy he just killed like 10 innocent people without a reason.
242nd 9 months ago
@242nd he didnt realy kill them he was shooting in the air to scare them off and the guy he shot with the smoke gernade just probably got hurt realy bad at least thats what i hope happend
gigan55 9 months ago
@gigan55 no he killed em, hes no hero.
242nd 9 months ago
@242nd oh.....
gigan55 9 months ago
@242nd He used rubber slugs and gas/smoke grenades.
megamantwelve 9 months ago
@242nd They were a mob tearing up the city. They threw a Molotov cocktail at their vehicle. Learn what moral ambiguity means.
megaman6382 9 months ago 3
@242nd Those were Rubber Slugs. The Comedian wouldn't be employed by the Government had he killed those people.
ElongatedVowels 6 months ago
5 people must have ran into the comedian
Cockey1277 9 months ago
Love when he shoots that "son of s bitch" in the chest.
UR5U8700LTWB 9 months ago
@Hrolfgartheviking
I understand Watchmen: it's a brutal deconstruction of the archetypal superheroes. On the other hand that doesn't excuse somone beating up protesters.
TheHuntedMen 9 months ago
@TheHuntedMen Oh nothing is excused. The Comedian is the real face of nihilism
Lonekommie 9 months ago
@TheHuntedMen they were rioting not protesting
Bigred17756 9 months ago
The scene makes me smile even though it makes me sad.
farside314 9 months ago
I'm really sorry for making this question, but... what "the american dream has become true" really means? I read the graphic novel and saw the movie, but I can't undertand it at all.
PS: Sorry for my english. My native language is spanish.
Milenkachan 9 months ago
@Milenkachan The American Dream is the right to do whatever you like in a free society without being prosecuted. The Comedian says it has come true because he's issuing his own brand of crowd control without interference from the law. You can't really do this in real though, unfortunately...
megamantwelve 9 months ago
@megamantwelve Uhm... but he says that the American dream has come true for the people there, not only for his...
Milenkachan 9 months ago
@Milenkachan It has for them, too. They are protesting,which is something you can do without being prosecuted. Although success isn't certain, obviously.
megamantwelve 9 months ago
@Milenkachan Sencillo el dice... q el sueño americano se hizo realidad... pues obviamente, la gente hace lo q le de la gana, no respeta las leyes ni nada por el estilo ps! o eso fue lo q yo entendi xD! saludos!
ratedgaborko 9 months ago
@ratedgaborko Bueno, sí, eso es. Creo que al fin despejé un poco mis dudas. Había pensado en el hecho de que el sueño americano que el Comediante le muestra a Nite Owl era uno donde reinada la destrucción; por eso pensé "¿pero cómo la gente va a querer esto?". Pero claro, es sólo una consecuencia de sus deseos volviéndose realidad. El Comediante era muy, muy inteligente para ver esto. Gracias :)
Milenkachan 9 months ago
@Milenkachan Basically the comedian. The american dream that we know it is achieving prosperity through life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The Comedian is saying they got all that , but in the process have lost all respect for authority. So pretty much the freedom to do anything. This is what makes watchmen kinda conservative. It basically says that were fucked when we don't have authority.
Josh0473 9 months ago 23
@Josh0473 i dont really think watchmen tries to say that particularly, but more tries to say that mankind in general is simply one chaotic, destructive and stupid race by nature. except for the two 'boring' characters (spectre/owl), every character has his own way of dealing with that conclusion. may it be cynism (comedian), indifference (manhattan), hope/obstinacy (rorschach), or escape to pure rationality (veidt). even with authority, there are few reasons for hope.
staxstix 6 months ago
@staxstix Great point. We could talk about so many aspects when is comes to the scenes from Watchmen. Just gives me a respect to how complex Moore's work is.
Josh0473 6 months ago
I believe Watchmen is a work that transcends political bias. It criticizes the black and white view of the right wing, but also criticizes the chaotic nature that is apparent in the left wing.
It's more of a story about human nature, about our morality. Each of our own indv. basic principles make up the fabric of American society. We have our pros, and we have our flaws. If we can overcome our flaws, whether you're liberal or conservative, you can create a better place for peace and prosperity.
ElegeantFencer 6 months ago
@ElegeantFencer The biggest problem with America society in the modern day as I see it, is that we have allowed the lunatic fringes of both the Left wing and the Right wing to fuck over the roughly 90% of American society that is actually sane and rational. These are the same lunatics that are currently running the US government and screwing us out of our liberties. But I do agree with you that Watchmen is more play on the ambiguity of human nature thatn anything else.
LordMalice6d9 6 months ago
@LordMalice6d9 I agree very much with what you said. The Supreme Court justices for instance- seems like a number of them are a bunch of morons.
ElegeantFencer 6 months ago
@Josh0473 you could also say that he thinks the american dream was an illusion from the beginning, never meant to be real but always seemingly in reach, what they got was a perveterd version of it wich only superficially reflects the american dream.
glamedrehl 6 months ago
@Josh0473 Actually watchmen not only sends a conservative view that's only the view of Comedian the rest of the group each have their own individual views. As Alan Moore said that's kind of the point of Watchmen to provide different views of the world.
miklitov23 6 months ago
@Josh0473
I don't think that's what the author meant. Alan Moore says that he considers himself an anarchist, which is virtually the exact opposite of a conservative. He also obviously doesn't like his own creations, and thinks the superheroes are the ones that ruined society(in the comic, not real life. I guess they're a stand in for government figures).
SuperWillHatch 6 months ago
@Josh0473 Hey, cant fight for freedom... Because you cant fight for something that does not exist. People need structure and order in life but they want "freedom"... Cant have it both ways folks!
MrOtakuman22 6 months ago
Lol! I can watch him punch that mouthy bitch over and over!
MrOtakuman22 6 months ago
@Josh0473 you nailed it! cheers
KuanDeedee 6 months ago
@Josh0473 without order nothing can exist, without chaos, nothing can evolve, authority is the only way to achievement, and order, if you prefer anarchy......
Harky88 5 months ago
@Harky88 Deep.
Josh0473 5 months ago
@Josh0473 Uhm, conservatism is limited government, liberalism is larger government. X-/
NodDisciple1 5 months ago
@NodDisciple1 Politically yes, but i'm referring it in the sense of conventional precautions.
Josh0473 5 months ago
@Josh0473 Ah, yes. Well, I do have my reservations concerning the Patriot Act if that's of any comfort to you. X-/
NodDisciple1 5 months ago
@NodDisciple1 haha i'm with u on that.
Josh0473 5 months ago
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Punch that bitch back to the kitchen!
megamantwelve 9 months ago 70
@megamantwelve Hahaha dude i liked your comment about 9 times
OriginalFatherGoose 8 months ago
@megamantwelve lmao fuck yea PRESS 4 TO GET A REPLAY OF PUNCHING THAT BITCH
661Sunshine 8 months ago