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  • NICE TRY! Guess what? I'm a Latino heavily supporting for RON PAUL 2012 I don't like bad people but I would take their money (leaving them with less) and use it for defending the constitution too! So take your DRAMA-RAMA elsewhere! You want to stop racism? STop the War on Drugs! STOP OBAMA and REPEAL his NDAA and ask why he doesn't repeal the Patriot Act, STOP the WARS! STOP the LIES! YouTube Ron Paul "What If" r3VOLution 2012

  • And I quote from this video "No evidence has been shown to debunk these allegations". Really? Is that the way we work now? I allege that you are a pedophile. As of right now, no evidence has been shown to debunk my allegation. See how that works? What a juvenile and biased piece of garbage this video is. He donated 500$ and Ron Paul took a picture with him. Later it was brought up that he was a WS leader. Ron Pauls reaction was "that's 500 less dollars he has to do whatever he does".

  • @nyprogressive Unbelievable stupidity nyprogressive. Ron you need to vet (background check) everyone you ever take a photo with, as well as contributors. Do you see how stupid that truly is?

    If he was in a photo with a murderer would that make him a murderer? A rapist? A rap artist?

    You do not do Progressives any favors.

  • @EndTheFedRes - I agree, it's unbelievably stupid for Ron Paul to keep on hanging out with white supremacists, and taking their money - like he did with Edgar J. Steele, lawyer for the Aryan Nation. It's not just Don Black - it's a bigger trend.

  • @nyprogressive Does he continue to take money from these people and does he know about it? Links please.

  • I've taken several pictures with Ron Paul. I'm a womanizer too and have slept with thousands of women. I guess that makes Ron Paul a womanizer too..

  • McDonald's and CocaCola take money from bigots and racists... does that make them bigots and racists? Ron Paul is a champion of the Constitution. He stands for freedom and liberty (FOR ALL). You need to do a little more homework before you go insulting the wrong man, boy. worst animation ever.

  • Ron Paul has gone to plenty of rallies where white supremacists and neo-nazis were, not just once or twice but over and over. It disproves the bs that progressives are nazis and libertarians are freedom lovers. You see you can criticize the dark side of left wing politics--Stalinism and Maoism--but you cannot pin the dark side of right wing libertarian politics (the racial and religious bigotry that spawned fascism and Nazism) on left wing progressive movements.That is all on you "libertarians".

  • So what !?!? He took money from a group of man boy children and is going to put it towards something other than plotting ways to kill anyone who isn't white. How is that a bad thing ? Also - I've done a lot of research on Ron Paul and his history. I have found "NOTHING" that indicates he supports white supremacists. Nothing !!! You can't keep something like that a secret for over 50 years. Do your research moron.

  • dude you are stupid as fuck, how should he know who he gets photos with. also i am left wing....

  • I bet I could get my picture taken next to Ron Paul. SO WHAT? He'd probably take money from me too. Why wouldn't he take the money? The rest of the neo nazi stuff is HILARIOUS. His stance on racism is better taken from his own words which make it clear that he is not a racist.

  • Ron Paul has called racism "a sin of the heart," moreover: "Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans only as members of groups and never as individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike; as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups." -Ron Paul

  • Once a racist gives you money, shouldn't you keep it? If you give it back, won't they just do something worse with it?

  • You should make another video of Obama in pictures with black supremisist leaders and terrorists.

  • Ron P. Is the best!

    I watched his debat's and all the information I could get! he is the Truth.

    Although I do not support this I don't know whats really behind this but it's not good. But on the other hand all Blacks supported Obama becouse he was black so why can't the white people support him? visa versa right?

  • Actually, no evidence has been presented PROVING these white supremacist allegations against Paul. Bill White is a disinformation agent masquerading as a white supremacist, ,and that post on vanguard's forums is bullcrap. Why would Ron Paul risk his political career every week or regularly just to meet with white supremacists?? That's absurd! If it were true, he would've gotten caught by now with a photo of one of htese big meetings.

  • What BS. This doesnt proof he is nazi

  • The Logic is this:

    1. I like him

    2. This is America and i choose to like him

    3. He is for the Good of All people not just Black or White!

    He is a Great man and i will vote for him because Minorities Love Him!

  • You need to prove that Don Black wants to suppress non-europeans first. Maybe go through the last 5 years of his radio program and find just one sentence that proves his a supremacist..

  • Interesting point. But how is this any different than the connection of Barack Obama and Jeremiah Wright? Under your same logic does that make Obama a racist? Yes it does. If black power groups openly support Obama is it racist for him to take the campaign money?

  • ron paul's only connection with white supremacists is that he has articles published in a formerly open white supremacist magazine called 'the spotlight' although his articles are only economic in basis. he has openly denounced the ideology of white supremacy and he's an honest man, one of the most honest politicians to exist. i'm not a fanboy at all. i think libertarianism is as un-pragmatic as communism but i don't believe he's at all racist.

  • I see this photo being brought up everywhere, but I see no description, or background of the photo. Could it be that he showed up at the rally, and snapped a picture of him standing next to him? I could show you a picture of him standing next to me, would that mean he is associated with me?

  • I really like your proof.. I can see how non existent it is.

  • You're a fucking idiot. If you give into this propaganda bullshit, you are not qualified to talk politics.

  • You use the word (all caps), and expect me to take you serious? Paultard? Are you lacking a brain, or do you have some type of mental disability? You make NO FUCKING SENSE when you argue.

  • Yes, Don Black was a Ron Paul supporter, there is no denying that.

    But does Ron Paul know who he was having his picture taken with, I very much doubt that too.

    I had my pic taken with him in Dallas, along with hundreds of others.

    As far as Don Black's campaign contribution, well guess what, Don Black also contributed to George Bush in 2000, the same amount $500.

  • Exactly! Ron Paul is the only one who should actually be president, but the media needs to make up all this racism bullshit, and I definitely don't need a poorly drawn/animated cartoon to tell me that Ron Paul is a bad guy.

  • No, only pointing out that just because RP got a donation from a known racist does not make him a racist.

    Listen, RP is no longer running, all this really does not matter anymore. We now have a new president and hopefully he does not do 1/2 the things he ran on or we will be a socialist country.

    There is no reason to be arguing an already vetted point because you refuse to believe the facts of the matter.

  • "Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than individuals . . . By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called diversity actually perpetuate racism. Their obsession with racial group identity is inherently racists . . . we should understand that racism will endure until we stop thinking in terms of groups and begin thinking in terms of individual liberty."

    Ron Paul

  • dynw. com/ronpaulisracist/

    You might like this web site

  • @PizzaGod You libertarians went ballistic when Obama shook hands with Hugo Chavez and go on long tirades trying to connect liberals with Stalinists. But now when it is your own favorite standard bearer is shaking hands with a Nazi it is just a coincidence and a mistake. Can't shake the devil's hand and say you were only kidding.

  • @perdondaris

    Nice reply to a 2 year old post.

    "you libertarians" don't care if Obama shook hands with Hugo Chavez. Ron Paul would not have a problem with that either. He is for talking to countries including Iran and Cuba. Not talking to them makes matters worse and makes them enemies. You can't have any sort of peace if you never talk to someone.

    The big difference here is that Obama knew who Chavez was and Ron Paul did not know who Don Black was.

  • he also said that its better for ron paul to spend their money on his campaign than god knows what they would spend it on. You want evidence against what you say? Look at his voting record! Look at the fact he has been reelected 10 times in a district with over 70 thousnad blacks. Not ot mention all other minorities and non-racist whites. What you call "facts," is garbage. Look at the real facts, his voting record, you'll see for your self!

  • what a stupid video it looks like one of those michael moore documentary

  • Don Black? What an ironic name for a white supremacist :P

  • At least it's not Tata Lalicious.

  • Ron Paul refused to return the money for simple and understandable fact... They gave money to support Dr. Paul's message of Freedom and Liberty. Not for Paul to support or endorse their views. In fact that freedom is is stark contrast to the stupid racist views of these groups. Should a money given at the alter of a church be returned because the person is a known sinner? Isn't that the point or seeing the light?

  • You are probably a conspiracy theorist if you are a ron paul support (just the odds say it must be so). So... riddle me this: He knew it was being put out under his name. He let them go out, for years. Whether or not he believed in them is not the question. He did it for political purposes? Maybe? Is that good or bad?

  • Dr. Paul used to treat low-income blacks for free while working as a doctor in the inner city. What have any of you self-righteous assholes done?

  • You're a liar. thank you for putting up bullshit like this so people can start waking up to the deceptions that have stolen their country.

  • Show me your source for that photo or take down this video.

  • I agree... I don't see howt his proves anything.

  • Ron Paul takes pictures with people all the time. I can guarantee you that there is probably a picture floating around out there with Hilary Clinton standing with a racist so don't completely be biased and present this like you absolutely know that he knew who this guy was.

  • So, then, show me a photograph of Hillary Clinton standing with the LEADER of a white supremacist organization, from whom she has TAKEN MONEY and REFUSES to return it.

    Come on. You can do that, can't you?

  • Hilary Clinton has taken 1000's of pictures with people. Maybe over 10 thousand, in her adult lifetime. I've no doubt that if you examined all those people's personal lives you could probably dig up something racist on one of them. I don't think that's any semblance of a stretch. Would that person be "the LEADER of a white supremacist organization" probably not but racist views are racist vies. Furthermore, please cite where you found that photo so I may verify it's authenticity.

  • I think that is a doctored photo. I want to know where you got that photo from.

  • It's available on a number of website. The most notable being Stormfront's own site.

    Fucking Denialists.

  • Thanks for replying. It really doesn't mean anything though. Dr. Paul doesn't know this guy. He stated that on Niel Cavuto show.

  • Show me your source for that photo or take down this video.

  • How was Ron Paul supposed to know who that guy was? Any doucebag with a web site can be a white supremacist "leader." Why don't you show your face, cartoon coward?

  • Photographs like this don't worry me at all, Ron Paul is always amicable with all his supporters and gives no preferance to who can donate, this is a new way to approach things and undoubtedly if you open your doors and let anyone come in, some of them will be racists, and some of them will be minorities, so what's the problem? It's like saying if racists like freedom and small government, then we should hate freedom and love big government or else we are racists.

  • Very interesting - I'd like to hear him explain that away.

  • have you watched these videos yet?

    /watch?v=2gKXyBgr24c

    /watch?v=5pAbKMS-Vps

  • These allegations where retracted by the NY Times a couple weeks ago.

  • oh my! he supports individual freedom

  • That's so weak....

    Ron Paul is the right choice for ALL AMERICANS, not just "progressively studip new yorkers"

  • Of course people with crappy ideas such as white supremacy like Ron Paul. He is interested in a country where you can think all kinds of stupid things as long as you don't mess with anyone elses life, liberty, or property. I not white but I don't want to live in a country where even white supremacists rights are violated.

  • Your assertion that this white supremacist doesn't have the right to donate to a political candidate he desires is unAmerican.

  • I shouls add "alleged" white supremacist...

  • nyprogressive: you're seriously misinformed.

    Here are two videos that instantly debunk your assessment of Dr. Paul:

    /watch?v=2gKXyBgr24c

    /watch?v=5pAbKMS-Vps

  • Why are you guys wasting your time with this? The best they can do is slander?

    RON PAUL 2008

  • That photograph is not slander.  It's a photograph.

  • A New York progressive ehh? Why are all of the Jews so out to smear Paul. He has no idea who Don Black is. Worse yet, you know goddamn well he has no idea who Don Black is, you just don't want a pro freedom and individual liberty candidate to get any play.

  • Oh, that's a good one. Respond to an allegation that Ron Paul is associating with NeoNazis by posting antisemitic comments about conspiracies by the Jews. Way to go.

  • Umm... a little empirical evidence would be nice. I just see a picture of some guy standing next to Ron Paul and hear someone spreading unvalidated information.

  • well by now you have heard it

  • No evidence other than a pic showing Ron Paul with some random guy. Is he supposed to know the background of every person that he is photographed with? And on taking the money... Hell yeah, take that SOB's money and don't give it back. Less money for racist asshats.

  • evidence that nyprogressive doesn't know WTF he is talking about:

    /watch?v=2gKXyBgr24c

    /watch?v=5pAbKMS-Vps

  • How is that photograph not real?  You can't undo the photograph.

  • Prove that the person in the picture is who you claim him to be and not just some random guy. Then prove that the picture was more than just some random occurrence. Then refute the statements made in the video evidence that I provided above. Otherwise, STFU instead of lying and spreading misinformation.

  • Go to the Lone Star Times, which provides a link to Don Black's own white supremacist web site, with another photograph of Don Black, looking exactly like the guy next to Ron Paul.

  • You're a coward! And I live in the Bronx so we can meet in person to "debate" if you would like!

  • What makes me cowardly?  That I'm sharing a photograph with people of Ron Paul meeting with a white supremacist?

  • Your video is a joke! Your implications are unfounded! And your message of hatred and lies is failing!

  • That photograph, and the check written by Don Black, are plenty of foundation.

  • Oh dear, we are still using a "guilty by association" argument - hardly progressive at all, would say totally derailed of truth and reality. How do we know you have not simply scanned two pics together.

  • And if a pic was taken, how is Dr. Paul supposed to know who it is? Simply the same of a supporter to him. Bush also received a donation by Don Black in 2000, does this make the opresident a Neonazi? You wanted Dr. Paul to return the money to Black so that Black can use the 500 USD to further his evil cause??? Fact is: nobody can find any dirt on Ron Paul and they have tried so hard already and they are giving it up.

  • Paul's newsletters have carried different titles over the years--Ron Paul's Freedom Report, Ron Paul Political Report, The Ron Paul Survival Report--but they generally seem to have been published on a monthly basis since at least 1978.

    Staffer Gary North is worse. HE advocates the execution of women who have abortions.

    Lotsa DIRT.

  • 'guilty by association' is the backbone of 90% of the arguments Ron Paul supporters use against his opponents. Turn about seems almost karmic to me...

  • OK. So candidates have to get background checks on all the people who show up to rallies and take pictures? And are they to monitor every person who donates to their campaign? how many corporate criminals are donating to Clinton, Huckleberry, Rudipoo or any of the other "top" candidates? Why don't you comb through their records and demonize them for TRULY associating with those kinds of people?

  • Can you show me one other presidential candidate who has had his photograph taken with the leader of a white supremacist organization? Just one?

    No, you can't.

  • Nice try. Is that the best you have?

  • Hey you should look at opensecrets dot org before you go off like this... Then check the AIPAC world and the Bill Moyer 2002 Ron Paul interview.

  • Uh, yes, Ron Paul's actions on this are what some might call trashy.

    Can you refute any of it?

    Can you name one other presidential candidate who has taken money from the leader of a white supremacist organization, and who has knowingly taken campaign donations from that white supremacist leader?

    I challenge you, Space3200. Name one.

  • White supremacist organization, no. But black supremacist organizations, Hillary is all over that one.

  • this is trash

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