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  • itsacult

  • Where is this secret book on the internet?

  • @skizitgesture

    world wide web

    bible.cfmin. DOT com

    /PAYATTENTION.

    pdf

  • Now they got a new secret book! I look forward to reading it on the internet. I enjoyed your vid. Thanks.

  • @PuNkOfNiCe

    Actually, the first edition came out in 1977.

  • @mrgalleria all bodies of elders have just got a letter advising there is a new elder's book coming out where 'loose' conduct is re-defined as 'brazen' conduct. Boy, they can disfellowship people for anything now!! Oh, well. They'll enjoy the power trip it gives them.

  • The society is worth billions, but who has their name attached to it? NO ONE, except Jehovah God.

  • @radoliz2

    Then why does the governing body take all the kingdom halls and other land and buildings? Why not grant ownership to the local congregations?

  • @mrgalleria The discounts to huge corporations, is based on size. Since the buildings are all own by a central authority, insurance premiums can be saved on. Also, it solves many issues that can arise in local communities between donators that suddenly feel they own a piece of the rock sort of speak. It also gives deflection clauses when a sudden question may be raised concerning one kingdom hall, by deverting it to the corporate office for comment rather than having to comment locally.

  • @radoliz2

    How convenient. How do all the other independent churches survive?

    Yes- the local members do own a piece of the rock- they built it, they paid for it, they maintain it. They WTS does nothing (except maybe loan a little money- to be repaid with interest) and steals what was others. No question about that. Does everyone in the hall know that the WTS owns the land and building, lock, stock, and barrel? I only recently found this out.

  • @mrgalleria Also consider they are working on the premise, that they all may be locked one day. That way, no one locally needs to be bothered about the troubles, because it all belongs to NY. Besides, I think satan is setting things up to gobble up the K.Halls for his new one world government, as sign in centers. You watch, they are buildings in close proximity to everyone USA and world wide. He will probably snatch them up in a second for his own purposes.

  • @radoliz2

    Yes, your right.

    The governing body must be working with satan. It far easier to take everything from one person/corp. then millions of people. How did the WTS know so well to plan for this?

  • @mrgalleria Sarcasim? They are not working for satan any more than you would dilberately work for satan. Which part of that is sarcasim?

  • Why do you produce a video, with so many satanic pictures attached? Is it because your message is from his source? It certainly would seem so, if viewed from an non-informed person. My suggestion is re-do it! without all the hoopla! Your point should speak for itself, after all it is a good point.

  • @radoliz2

    Have you ever seen a Watchtower publication?

    There are pictures of- satan, devils, demons, astrology symbols, charts, and signs; witchcraft articles, Quiji boards, crystal balls, hell, magic articles, pagan gods, pagan symbols, pagan religious practices, temples and churches of every religion, crosses, the list goes on.

    How is my message from satan?

  • @mrgalleria You on the other hand, have decided to deliberately produce a film littered at will with degusting images attached with a message to flee from the WTBTS as if they deliberately infuse these subliminal messages into their publications for misleading the nations into worship. This is not truthful in the least, they worship what they know! You sir, are not thinking correctly. You need to correct your perception of what is truly happening. The wheat and the weeds are both in the WTBTS.

  • @radoliz2

    I did not mention the subliminal messages, very common throughout the '70's Watchtower publications. Thanks for bringing up that point.

    JW's do not worship what they know. They worship what is interpreted to them by the governing body. Please don't be misleading.

    If weeds are in the Watchtower, as you correctly stated, then it is not Jehovah's pure worship.

  • @mrgalleria Its as pure as it gets for this time in satans system of things.

  • @radoliz2

    It was satans system in Yeshua's day too. Care to tell me about His mistakes? Care to make excuses for Him too?

  • @mrgalleria I wonder if you considered something else? No matter what you or anyone has said or done against the WTBTS. No matter how serious, they still welcome you back! They don't put out kill notices on your head like the muslims, nor do the prevent you from attending meetings as long as you just sit there and not make trouble to the order of things. They are a very forgiving people, along with their father in the heavens. How many against them? are as forgiving if their vlog is messed with?

  • @radoliz2

    "they still welcome you back"!!!

    I was disfellowshipped for something I did not do, and for 7 years tried to be restored, attending every single meeting.

    At the hall I was DFed, they told me not to attend meetings there. When I attended meetings at other halls, I was mistaken for the guest speaker. My appearance and conduct were impeccable.

    Forgiving? Even though my family knows I was fraudulently DFed, they will not speak with me. JW's practice a monstrous thing.

  • @mrgalleria I admit, that I dont know your exact case, but I do see the result of your disfellowshipping has brought the worse out of you. Now your self-important, speaking against those hard at work to help people. You are a leader now on your own youtube vlog. Leader in the opposite direction of loving our creator, and his son. Instead you beat the faithful stewart about mistakes of the past over and over and over again so everyone hearing will not come in and listen to life giving waters. :(

  • @radoliz2

    The worst in me was learning the real truth after 50 years. Praise God. If I am self-important, it is not a result of any skill I have. The truth is always palatable to those seeking it. I am leading people in the right direction, away from Babylon. No one IN Babylon recognizes it. The "faithful stewart" is not, but they are the drunk evil slave, drunk on power. Only Yeshua can give the "water".

  • @mrgalleria What is the "real truth" that, after fifty years as a jehovahs witness you did learn? that is so enlightening? And that requires these style vlogs you have posted? Who are they designed to help? You? Give you closure to the fifty years you think you wasted? You didn't waste fifty years, if you helped one person see through satans black curtain. But not you are spending your treasures in heaven with these vlogs, I'll bet you on that! lol

  • @radoliz2

    At least I learned what the Bible said, though I was deprived of what the Bible taught, as are all witnesses.

    Witnesses are as much behind satans black curtain as anyone else.

    Obedience and faith to God are my treasures,

    Obedience and faith to man are JW's treasures.

    How many meetings did you attend this month?

    How many hours did you report this month?

  • @radoliz2 Because, the picture you are refering to, in the early issues of the mags, were because they didn't know. Like the pyrimids, the all seeing eye, and others. The ones you are alluding to as demons, devils, and such are unseen at first glance caused from printing defaults. They are not deliberate acts of infusing satanic occult interest in the mags. Rather it is because of the occults powers, them being spiritual and able to manipulate things beyond our control. cont.

  • @radoliz2

    No printing defaults, please. Watchtower does their own printing, and it is very fine. The original images were sometimes clearly modified after the artist finished, by another artist. Many images have demonic and sexual subliminal artifacts. Watchtower images like these are custom painted by JW's at headquarters. Some of these artworks are on display at Watchtower.

  • @mrgalleria Take the two guys at the laptop. One is holding what appears to be his own personnal sexual junk. But look further, its a wireless microphone! Only a sick perverted individual would come to the conculsion that they would put a sexually explict on purpose. The one hanging in the WTBTS you can clearly see it is a microphone. Satan is the one responsible for these mis-conceptions that they are dilberately placing subliminal artifacts in the magazines. And people like you feed the lies!

  • @radoliz2

    It's my fault evil images end up in the Watchtower publications?

    That's quite a stretch, isn't it?

    Look at the '70's publications, those are the only ones I know about. Remember, you brought this subject up, not me.

  • @mrgalleria No its no ones fault, except satan, his demons, for putting there stamp on things. But you have to look closely, on the surface they don't appear hurtful. Its only after starring at them an wanting to see something that the abstract image appears of a goats head, or someone puts a sexual spin on a image. The WTBTS has been as careful as they can to give us good clean pictures. And that is what your exposing of satans workings should include. These men R geniunely concern for mankind.

  • @radoliz2

    "geniunely concern"?

    The distributors of secret letters and a secret book?

    Overseers of 40,000 disfellowshippings a year?

    With catastrophic personal results?

    Most unjustly disfellowshipped?

    Stealers of other people's property?

    Cruel, inconsiderate lords over millions of devoted followers?

  • it was the elite what i meant, not the elders. sorry

    the ones who write the magazins and books

    but u r right they can´t dare to it cuz every hierarchical religious-bussiness needs paul to make it a factory

  • On your point about secret writings you are entirely wrong. For this reason you can't be trusted to claim any authority regarding the GB.

    Daniel was given information he did not understand. Daniel 12:4 and was told that it would be secret until the time of the end.

    There are many examples. Your allowing yourself to be blinded by Satan is your own fault and not that of any other.

  • @nibornagrom

    All of the thousands of elders are given the secret book, which they do understand. And the receive secret letters monthly. No one but elders can see the secret letters.

    The elders are never given information they don't understand, how can you compare this to Daniel? Who is blinded by satan?

  • seing their stuff i think that the elders way point to admit that paul is false. they r analytical. but their fear to loose followers in mass, and ambition stops them. they r just giving clues, so that when they decide to move in this direction the followers don´t run freaking out from them. it s just the elite who s in the secret. so if u try to express it to the followers they react as they did with u, as they r ignorant enough to accept that the leaders think for them. what do u think Bro?

  • @SuperBoomboon

    Most of the scriptures they quote are Paul's writings.

    They cannot change.

    Paul gives religions authority over their flocks.

    Yeshua said that He was our Teacher, and Temple.

    With Yeshua, there are no others.

    The day JW's tell the truth, their church's will be empty forever.

  • @mrgalleria What is the truth that they withhold from  us? and why would their "flock" choose to leave and not attend the gatherings?

  • @merlinspower

    The truth they withhold it that Messiah is our only Temple, our only Teacher, our only Leader. They build churches, that when you enter, you deny the real one in heaven. They give teachers, and so following, you deny the real Teacher. They give leaders, and so following, you deny the real Leader.

    They also misinterpret scripture and prophesy with falsehoods.

  • @mrgalleria You have been misinformed completely. They teach that Jesus is our exemplar, that our Bodies are, our temples, and that the Kingdom Hall they use, as a church, is nothing more than a building being used to instruct everyone of Jehovahs ways. Ways of the past, present, and future as can be determined at this time. Jesus is the son of Jehovah God, and has never wished us to separate him in any way from his father. The WTBTS does the best job possible under our present circumstances.

  • @radoliz2

    Jesus (Yeshua) did not teach our bodies are a temple. Only His body is the Temple. Don't be crazy. It was the anti-christ, Paul, who lead you astray.

    Yes, JW's get "instruct"ed in a building. Not instructed by Yeshua, but man.

    1 John 2:26 "...you do not need anyone to be teaching you".

    One Teacher.

    BTW- Jesus is a Greek word meaning "image of Zeus". There is no "j" in Hebrew.

  • @mrgalleria Why is it? That all these misinformed people of what really goes on in the organization of Jehovahs Witnesses, is so distorted and twisted on this Youtube machine? I agree if one wants to free themselves from the org. because they dislike the pressures of slavery type preaching, and cookie cutter grooming everyone into being ministers. And leave without the shunning and persecution they dish out with it. But you misinforming people are the exact reason why they shun those who leave!

  • @radoliz2

    Like me, we are shunned to keep us silent. Many of us did nothing wrong, and did not oppose them. It is their lust for sensual pleasure that causes them to condemn the righteous one (James 4:1-2, 5:5-6).

    I inform the truth, and those who love truth will listen.

  • @mrgalleria NO! This is not correct! You are shunned, because you no longer wish to minister to the spiritually weak, and downtroddened of the earth. Bringing with you goodnews about Jehovah and his plans to deal with those greedy bastards that are ruining the earth. You found imperfections of the organizations past, and are using it as an escape route for you, to do as you wish! But also, you have chosen to inform others of their imperfections without balance to hopefully lure others away from.

  • @mrgalleria Your truth that you are informing is full of disgusting things and images dilberately up and out front in everyones faces. You do not educate how to comfort the ones needing comforting. You instead spend your time beating the teacher that showed you the way of the true God. And beating anyone who attends this teachers programs. Wake up! All of You, who serve satan and his wicked system of things. Draw the line where it ought to be drawn.

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  • They (the elders) love being exclusive, I think this is rather obvious. They cannot humble themselves enough to participate in their own theocratic ministry school in the same fashion as the rest of the flock, as if humbly doing so would diminish their stature. And it is pretty obvious their stature is the most important aspect of their position. So of course, these men feed right into keeping this book secret. Great question.

  • leaders must not only be honest. they must look like this too. they surely claim that it s for "good reasons" that they keep it secret. but it s impossible that we know for sure. the bible sais: "So says YHWH, Cursed is the man who trusts in man, and who makes flesh his arm" Jer 17:5 so men´s debt is to offer whole transparency if they want our trust. it s ilegal from human and YHWH´s point of view to think that u r special and have the right to hide info to others while u lead their lives

  • @SuperBoomboon

    It's secret, because much of it involves how to conduct judgment over individuals within the sect. They (3) meet in secret with one at a time to resolve situations. Many can tell you, what happens behind those closed doors is evil. I was treated very evilly behind those doors. 9 years later, the pain of it remains. Ten's of thousands have suffered the same fate.

  • Death of the watchtower = Google. The truth shall set you free.

  • If you have read and studied this book why don't you cut to the chase and expose the contents of it that are harmful. It would be so much clearer for us bystanders.

  • @LovingScrubbies Im pretty sure the point is that such a book exists. Why shouldn't any Witness be able to read this book for guidance and advice?

  • @BADAZZociation

    Aknowledged. Therefore why not cut to the chase and itemize the harmful aspects of it?

  • @LovingScrubbies

    This is a worthwhile suggestion.

    It would make a very good video series.

    Anyone care to tackle it?

  • @mrgalleria

    LOL with all the flippant allusions to it being so, a reasonable person

    would think it has been established already .

  • @mrgalleria Every week I study with witnesses. For the last year. I am NOT Baptised into this Truth, But rather raised Catholic. This is the first that I have heard about the secret Book of the elders! I am shocked.! But you say that I can examine this book , titled "pay attention to yourselves and all the flock" ,.. om the internet ? I am curious. I don't trust the Government, courts, banks,S.S system, IRS,FBI, but this world belongs to Satan

  • @merlinspower

    bible.cfmin dot com/PAYATTENTION.pdf

  • @LovingScrubbies I have approached two elders in the last 24 hours. They freely admit that the book does exist and they have it their possesion. They say that they are  instructed to share the truth and not keep it to themselves. The book is claimed as property of the church to be given back when they are no longer acting as elders. Internet acknowleges that point.

  • @merlinspower

    Ask them why they disobey Messiah's words at Matthew 23:8-12.

    I can tell you it is because they follow the instead of christ- Paul.

    Ask the elders how many secret letters they have on file. Ask them if you can see them. Then tell them that they are on the internet, for the time of searching for them. Soon they will stop your free home Bible study.

  • @merlinspower

    Why are you re-stating an already established point?

    It has NOTHING to do with what I said.

    mrgalleria and others continually allude to it's "harmful

    content" but don't identify it explicitly and establish their

    complaint for all time.

    I never challenged it's existence. Are you drunk?

  • @LovingScrubbies

    A book, over 150 pages. Make videos about it's instruction, why don't you?

    Is it not enough that the book is so secret, no one in the church must ever see it, except for elders?

    Very few even know it exists.

    It contains rules, guidelines, laws, for exercising judgment over the members.

    The harmful content is;

    1. that it contains rules by which others are judged, yet the others do not know these rules.

    2. It is secret.

    3. It is used as a form of subjection and control.

  • @LovingScrubbies OK, now I see. You don't make videos, so you won't be making a video about the elders secret book. In your message to me you said "It is vacuous to continuously re-state what's already established. Instead of repeating the same rhetoric ad nauseum, making redundant videos to repeat the same material, why don't you identify the precise contents that are "injurious"". Sorry, I don't work for you. You don't happen to be a manager at Wal-Mart, or McDonalds?
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