"Eis Polla Eti Despota!" - Pontifical Byzantine Liturgy

[sotelios]

ha-ha they are catholics pretending or better trying to be like the orthodox, very funny........ but they will still be heretics...the bishop's vestments are for a clown.. look at real byzantine vestments.... still laughing

[drupes]

@sotelios Such arrogance from eastern schismatics ('orthodox"). When it comes to anything Catholic these people don't have a shred of charity in them, just look at their comments here on Youtube or read the so-called "orthodox" blogs on the net. I'm not surprised, just look at Constantinople and Moscow squabbling over jurisdiction of the Estonian "orthodox" church, and Moscow and Romania over Moldavia. Such hostility for their own, how much more for others?

[trotsafrikaner]

Beautiful service but the outside of the church is too modern.

[LiturgicalChants]

@trotsafrikaner - I second that view...I think St Joseph's Church is distinctively shocking and unnattractive exterior wise, the interior also is too barren. They are giving Annunciation Greek Orthodox Church, Milwaukee, Wisconsin a run for it's money in the contest for "most modernist" eastern christian church. Exteriorwise I think Annunciation is more subdued and attractive, much as it is not great and radically untraditional.

[dimdindan]

Oυνίτες ... Προβατόσχημοι λύκοι ....

[dx4020]

OYNITES!!!!!!!!!!

[hurricaneomega]

addendum: the acoustics sound great, though. Is there a sound system at all?

[julianhayda]

@hurricaneomega

there is, but i don't believe the choir was miced then. it's not usually necessary.

[hurricaneomega]

the church building looks kind of ugly, but even this building's uglieness is better then the horrible Latin churches built in the last few decades. I love the old churches with gothic arches and stained glass that actually looks like something. I hope Pope benedict lives to be 100 so he can get rid of all that nonsense.

[muscleslave001]

It is just, your personal opinion. Nothing more than that.

[GeorgeKnighton]

If you belong to a church that a Greek or Russian might have formerly referred to as a "Uniate" church, what is it that you would prefer to be called?

"Greek Catholic" could usually refer to Orthodox churches.  Likewise, Byzantine Catholic.

Byzantine Rite Catholic? How's that?

[breyman913]

In the USA the vast majority refer to themselves as "Byzantine Catholic." And in Europe and the Middle East the preferred term is "Greek Catholic" either is a suitable term.

[breyman913]

The term "Uniate" is only used by the ignorant, or by those people who use insulting terms to describe other people. It is never used by those who are truly followers of Christ. If you wish to see the vesting of a Bishop in the Temple among the people check out the Parma Eparchy's videos.

[readermichael]

This claim was put forward over a year ago on another forum to which I belong, then someone produced a number of Byzantine Catholic websites where they referred to themselves as "Uniate". It was explained that this was once a common term and was not pejorative, but that SOME Byzantine Catholics now see it that way. However, not all.

[CanCatholic]

Why do so many Greek Catholic Churches have a western-like procession at the beginning of Pontifical liturgies? Why doesn't the bishop vest in the nave among the people?

[brankobos]

Well, sweety, you should be more introduced with the orthodox byzantine rite itself. According to the mentioned the bishop is actualy vesting in his "home". Read more! These uniats kept something anciant.

[marahbadrian]

IIRC, this tradition is purely Russian. The greeks don't do this

[readermichael]

@marahbadrian We don't do this in the Russian church either. If the bishop comes to the church in procession, he does so in cassock and the censers are blessed before the procession starts but when he gets to the doors of the church, the reception of the bishop happens in the usual way. Then he approaches the solea, the preparation prayers are said by a deacon, and as he turns to bless the people with his hands, "Ton dhespotin" is sung once only. Then he is vested in the middle of the church.

[readermichael]

@marahbadrian It is only after the vesting that he blesses in four directions while Ton Dhespotin is again sung once only, and he does not say the "Lord, Lord, look down from heaven and behold" as the bishop did in this video. That is only done in the Liturgy itself, at the Trisagion. What we are seeing here may be a legitimate Ukrainian tradition, or it may be a local custom, but it is not Russian.

[Koliberek]

Beautful... I wish western rite were so beautiful too... I mean it is, but only so called Tridentine.