not a fair video.you can not compare base on only ripper performance.the single shank in d8r can penetrate in rock terrain better than the stupid design of komatsu three shank ripper.better to take komatsu in the farmer field to plough. d8r is much faster as a general purpose work than komatsu. d8r is most popular machine here in gulf region.
Caterpillar used to be the leading source of construction equiptment and Truck engines, but I hate to say it but Caterpillar isn't what it once was. The earlier Cat powered dozers are WAY better than the new stuff they make. It's just a fact that people has to get over. Cat needs to bring the Name and quality back. I my self like caterpillar, but they are losing loyality to many companies around the world.
Physics, equal HP equal weight and looks like equal traction. It is imposable to pull three times the shank if the resistance per shank is the same. Must be rigged.
Well if the guy on the 8 knew how to rip and put more of an angle on the ripper so he could get under the rock (like the komatsu is doing) he could probably rip alot better.
You know if they were so confident of the Komatsu why didnt they swap places so we could see the Komatsu stall out in the harder soil, Cat D8's have pulled three shanks for years and years before the 155 ever rolled off the assembly line, i spent 8 months working at a komatsu dealer and the customers screamed about those pieces of crap, if you ask most Komatsu owners why they bought Komatsu they will say because the Cat machine was 6 months out, Komatsu has copied most Cat ideas.
@HomebrewCigarsmoker Hydrostatic drive? If you don't know anything about Komatsu bulldozers best not comment on whether this was apples to apples test. D155AX-6 is NOT hydrostatic drive it has what Komatsu call HSS Hydrostatic Steering System. This is just a hydraulic motor which rotates the ring gears in the planetary drives that are outboard of the bevel gear. It is definitely one hundred percent mechanical drive.
omg ju amerikans only love your own made things like deeres and caterpillar but yea they are both good companys but i like komatsu more couse they have better well all the things are better with komatsu but volvos excavator are my favorites and i know im going to get many dislikes but thats just what i think
el operador no es el indicado pa esa makina porla forma que trabaja a introdusir el escalificador en el terreno y so que se be que el terreno no es muy duro que digamos y eso que me buelco por la cat ya que toda mi vida e trabajado con esta marca de makinas un poco mas de experiencia no le bendria bien
but Caterpiller is made by union labor in Illinois and Obama LOVES union labor and union workers love Obama. since we can't disagree with Obama, or be labeled racist, and union workers will burn down your house..I'm inclined to say Caterpiller is a better dozer.
none of this matters. the peice of crap komatsu is going to brake down at least twice a month and the cat is going to keep running. you can only use a machine that runs. not one thats sitting in the garage
I run a 96' 155 with 15,000hrs alongside a new D8T last spring and out ripped him in a hard rock borrow pit, Komatsu have always had a better ripping dozer and better blade design on virtually everthing they make. Notable exceptions for me were the 135 and the 58LGP, both P'sOS and not made anymore. I know some owners that have done very well with Komatsu since the 60's (After the cat dealer screwed them on parts) ...So it goes both ways.
I know you sell komatsu for a living . I've been in the mining industry for over 30 yrs. I've seen them try komatsu several times. It never works out they do allright for about a year then there junk. Can't get parts, parts cost double nightmare to service, track em by the oil leaks. there excavators are good though. Dozers and loaders and trucks no good.
sorry boys the komatsu is just better there is not much diff in horse power its the wieght and that hight track frame of the cat - please get rid of it its a very bad designe make the masjine useless
Anybody trust that piece of shit Kamatsu has never been around them..I have been operationg for 10 years dozers and both have been on jobs..then Kamatus were ALWAYS broke down..and the one comment is true about turnaround always were waiting on parts for Kamatsu..stupid japanese junk.
Anybody trust that piece of shit Kamatsu has never been around them..I have been operationg for 10 years dozers and both have been on jobs..then Kamatus were ALWAYS broke down..and the one comment is true about turnaround always were waiting on parts for Kamatsu..stupid japanese junk.
Anybody trust that piece of shit Kamatsu has never been around them..I have been operationg for 10 years dozers and both have been on jobs..then Kamatus were ALWAYS broke down..and the one comment is true about turnaround always were waiting on parts for Kamatsu..stupid japanese junk.
Weak.....ok first off komappartsoon's suck... second off its easy to rip that which has allready been ripped... then there is the cat ripping virgin ground in first gear, with crap for grousers..... and the shank tipped forward.. worthless video
The dumb ass CAT driver tilts the blade too much forward. The Komatsu has them tilted back so it pulls itself in. Next to that, the Komatsu shanks are a foot shorter. At what depth is the bedrock ????????
We are mining mineral sands in Africa and I can tell you that a Cat is a better quality machine.Our Cat d10r's are still king with more than 35000 hrs in one of the worst abrasive enviroments you can think of. The Komatsu didn't last 4000 hrs before it's first transmission problems kept it in the workshop. And I want to add that our D11R probably rips the hardest rock (Zircon consentrate rock) with ease and no- NO major engine, transmission or undercarriage problems. This is facts, K-WAY NO WAY
@Fastdirt505 For your information... KOMATSU builds more equipment in the USA than Cat does - Before you go pounding on your chest - check your facts!
Tell me.. Would you rather drive a Japanese Lexus or a crappy Ford? PC200 faster, D155 stronger. And lets not talk about the one and only D575. CAT "another white meat"
Each machine has it's benefits, i run a d10 and a komatsu 375, controls are less fatiging on a d10, komatso more quiter, kopmatsu has digital display with built in camera and a you can select recirculating air, the 10 is better for crushing rocks, 10 has better cab with more room to keep your junk and you can see the bottom of the blade. Komatsu brakes don't grab so hard or shift gears as rough becuase of the damper. You run either enough you start to like one.
you guys really think they spent all that time just to fake this? to make the komatsu look good?? i personally have ran these to machine..D8T tho and personally i like the komatsu. dont get me wrong there both great machines but it all comes down to prefference. and stop aruging over the internet, makes all of you look like idiots. and BTW we run many komatsu, cats, and even some smaller deere dozers. and we can get parts for all of them in a day. i bet half you people who are favoring the
For the 2 of u arguing which is better, I have run the tracks off of both of em pipelining. The cat will out push, out RIP, and out last the komatsu. If you want to do the research, how about you actually run the damn thing!!! The komatsu aint nothin but a lightweight, unballanced piece of shit. Cat has it all hands down. Hope this settles things.
@coleybeen Pipeliners wreck everything in sight and aren't too smart either. I work with gas wells and the mess that pipeliners make so I am not surprised you have no idea what you are talking about.
Do you know what the parts availability is on CAT vs. Komatsu? Night and day, if something breaks on your Komatsu, you might as well call the mahchine down for a week while they fly the part in for you. With CAT if parts aren't available in stock, they are usually available overnight. Makes all the difference when talking about production.
Anybody with a brain will tell you the Komatsu will push more...larger capacity Sigma Blade...Forst innovation in dozer balde technology in 50 years. You Cat lovers need to come up with a new line...you can't beat KOMATSU UP OVER PARTS ANYMORE. More weight/horsepower equal superir value in the class...besides, you really don't want to see a D275 really embarass a D9...do ya? Cat doesn't innovate anything anymore...they copy it!
The Komatsu D155 is superior because of a high capacity torque Convertor, K-Bogie,more weight, more horsepoawer and more track on ground. Period. The D155 has 3 shanks buried and the Cat can't get one in the ground. Imagine the production advantage if that had been a D8T? Evderybody knows their latest is inferior to the D8R. Cat also has a more moving parts, contributing to higher costs.
@weritter1 A D8T will push as much and ripp as much as a D8R,I know ran them bolth for many hours, lets do the same test that was done here same situation same materail, only differance lets switch places with dozers then the D8 will walk away BECAUSE HE WILL BE IN THE FILL!!!!!!!!!!! THIS VID IS RIGGED BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hmmmm... 3 stubby shanks vs one big shank rolled all way back. Not impressed. Nice way to sell a piece of shit. How about gettin them in a pit and see who pushes more? The CAT will win. Been there done that. You'll need operators to run em to not salesmen. I'm just talkin from close to 15 years of runnin dozers.
Are you kidding! While we are at it why don't we get a D575 and let it push with a D9. Some of the comments made are ridiculous. The point of the demonstration was to put the same class dozer up against each other. That's what we did and the results are obvious. That's why the customer purchased the Komatsu.
We did finish a leveling job a couple of weeks ago, some of the equipment on the job included 3 D155AX-3's, 1 D8T, and one D8R. Our foreman and operators reported back that as usual the D155AX-3's made the D8's look sick. As our top operator said, other than CAT perhaps enjoying some slight advantages (he was on the D8T) the Komatsu's were embarrassing the CAT's, 12-13k hour Komatsu's burying a 4000 hour D8T.
n fact, we've had machines with up to 20,000 hours that never required anything more done to the major componentry, than an inframe on the engine at 20k. That being said, we did have some final drive failures with the D59P, D85E-21, & D135A-2 models, where earlier models had seemingly indestructible final drives, much unlike D7G's for instance. However, those models are almost ancient history.
n fact, we've had machines with up to 20,000 hours that never required anything more done to the major componentry, than an inframe on the engine at 20k. That being said, we did have some final drive failures with the D59P, D85E-21, & D135A-2 models, where earlier models had seemingly indestructible final drives, much unlike D7G's for instance. However, those models are almost ancient history.
n fact, we've had machines with up to 20,000 hours that never required anything more done to the major componentry, than an inframe on the engine at 20k. That being said, we did have some final drive failures with the D59P, D85E-21, & D135A-2 models, where earlier models had seemingly indestructible final drives, much unlike D7G's for instance. However, those models are almost ancient history.
n fact, we've had machines with up to 20,000 hours that never required anything more done to the major componentry, than an inframe on the engine at 20k. That being said, we did have some final drive failures with the D59P, D85E-21, & D135A-2 models, where earlier models had seemingly indestructible final drives, much unlike D7G's for instance. However, those models are almost ancient history.
n fact, we've had machines with up to 20,000 hours that never required anything more done to the major componentry, than an inframe on the engine at 20k. That being said, we did have some final drive failures with the D59P, D85E-21, & D135A-2 models, where earlier models had seemingly indestructible final drives, much unlike D7G's for instance. However, those models are almost ancient history.
n fact, we've had machines with up to 20,000 hours that never required anything more done to the major componentry, than an inframe on the engine at 20k. That being said, we did have some final drive failures with the D59P, D85E-21, & D135A-2 models, where earlier models had seemingly indestructible final drives, much unlike D7G's for instance. However, those models are almost ancient history.
n fact, we've had machines with up to 20,000 hours that never required anything more done to the major componentry, than an inframe on the engine at 20k. That being said, we did have some final drive failures with the D59P, D85E-21, & D135A-2 models, where earlier models had seemingly indestructible final drives, much unlike D7G's for instance. However, those models are almost ancient history.
n fact, we've had machines with up to 20,000 hours that never required anything more done to the major componentry, than an inframe on the engine at 20k. That being said, we did have some final drive failures with the D59P, D85E-21, & D135A-2 models, where earlier models had seemingly indestructible final drives, much unlike D7G's for instance. However, those models are almost ancient history.
n fact, we've had machines with up to 20,000 hours that never required anything more done to the major componentry, than an inframe on the engine at 20k. That being said, we did have some final drive failures with the D59P, D85E-21, & D135A-2 models, where earlier models had seemingly indestructible final drives, much unlike D7G's for instance. However, those models are almost ancient history.
Anyone that thinks a CAT will outlast a Komatsu in service life either doesn't know what they're talking about or is close to brain-dead.
We run both Komatsu & CAT, CAT since 1961, Komatsu since the early 70's. Most models of Komatsu will far outlast the equivalent model of CAT, before a major rebuild is required. I
@KVB00anidaR why dont you tell me why the 320 bl that has close to 12000 hrs is still running strong with out having much of anything done to it, but when we bought a 2008 pc200-8 with only 400 hrs we had a machanic there working on the p.o.s for 2.5 weeks to get it to run it only took 2 hours of work to SHUT THE MACHINE DOWN
the komatsu has higher gears so it goes faster it is heavier so it gets better traction it also has more horse power but put the 155 up to a D8T or a D9R and see how it does
That model komatsu has more power than the cat. The cat is 310 hp and the komatsu is 354hp plus the rear end of the komatsu is heaver than the cat. Let's face it here cat cant win every fight.If the the ground was wet the cat would be really kicking ass.
I've read through all these comments...you are all a bunch of dipshits...that Komatsu has a lock up T/C and way more drawbar pull than that CAT that's why its beating it the CAT basically your witnessing Komatsu's superior engineering as it's leaving that joke of a dozer in the dust.
the CAT dozer is no match to the Komatsu dozer CAT sells underwear and boots a true marketing company Komatsu is a true engineering company....CAT "another white meat".
the company i work for has a 320 Bl cat trache, they wanted to up grade and komatsu made us one hell of a deal or SO WE THOUGHT, its been run for 16 count them 16 hour and has had the MECHANIC there for 12 of them, better machine huh jaredjohnson,we still have the 320 it is still running getting the job done komatsu still has a mechanic
in addition to my last comment, id like to say that if u choose to you can use caterpillars rotating bushing for the track chain wich eliminate the need for Bushing turns on the tracks, enjoy servicing your komatsu and waiting for parts :D and enjoy taking the track off when u gota get the bushings turned, meanwhile the cat would still be going, AAAND enjoy taking your tracks off and jacking the machine up just to change the sprocket teeth, while the CAT you can replace it without track removal
Yea what r u talking about, u think cat's the only one that offers a track with rotating bushings? Komatsu has that too i just installed some on a d65.
@ video poster, you think that the komatsu is soooo muc bettter from one little test, needless to say that the CAT will outlast that komatsu in service life, Caterpilar will give you 48 hour parts turnaround as a MAXIMUM for any part, udually it is that day or over night, komatsu will screw you three ways till sunday to get u sum parts, and the final drives and all undercarriage gear on that komatsu is inferior to the elevated sproket. GO CAT GO, that komatsu is a dog... nuff said
You dont have any clue as to what you are talking about. Maybe you should educate yourself prior to making false claims. Komatsu has a 24 hour guarantee on parts turnaround. Also, Komatsu has "inferior" Finals, Why did Cat have to raise there final out of the dirt. The Komatsu undercarriage will out last the Cats 2 to 1. I have fact to back that up.
i do have a clue what i am talking about, the service requirements for komatsu is higher than that of the cats, also komatsu dont have the new "SystemOne" track chain system. adn cat did not have to raise there finals, they chose to because it is a wiser design, cat still make oval tracks... encase you did not know that. the new D7E is oval tracked
@rogueorange Let's talk service life... Caterpillar takes pumps from one vendor, finals from another, transmission from another ect. while the KOMATSU is 100% built and manufactured by KOMATSU - Can you say Harmony? All parts working together add up to almost twice the componet life before failure if maintained properly.
@KOMATSUIRONM4N I found parts to be over expensive? Poor availability of aftermarket parts? What models are built in the USA? I paid $1000 per hole for pistons and liners.....its not an airplane engine I thought?
KOMATSU or CATERPILLAR i like them both and sadly they are both JAPENESE in MACHINE PARTS caterpillar used to be 100% american but not these days ive used cats D8 up to D11 and Komatsus from D255 up to D575 i like them both they r both good machines as long there is care putted in them like regular serving and lubing most of all i like komatsus a little better because they have cummins in their machinery
They should have changed lines on the way back;) Or ripp in the untouched ground. This is´t fare even to the Komatsu. Wining by cheat is always a loose :(
Take the Komatsu cab and controls and put them on CAT and you'd have a hell of a machine, The biggest and most important difference is H-track vs L, the H-tracks beat you too death. 25yr Dozer operater currently on a CAT D11.
I find this video quite misleading, I work for a company with both a D155AX-6 and a D8R on the same site. I have ripped with both bulldozers recently, in fact I was ripping with the 155 yesterday. Our 155 will not rip as our 8R will. The 8 puts its power to the ground better, both machines are running 3 shanks. Our machine just sits and spins out in frozen ground while the 8 pulls down quite nicely. That being said the Komatsu has more power and 10klbs heavier.
I wouldn't say that too loudly....The Cat will outlast the Komatsu in life, and yeah I think it rips better. But the Komatsu is a nice dozer, its frickin quiet, it runs and turns nice. I like the Komatsu, I like the Cat.... but as my friend said what do I know.... I'm just a track loader operator.
Many folks might question the validity of this test as the D155AX-6 is a more powerful machine than the D8R.
If you're going to compare machines head-to-head you have to a) equalize the machines (same number of shanks), b) switch operators mid-test and c) ensure each is making passes over identical ground conditions. In other words, be more scientific.
The statement "superior engineering" is too general. Saying "engineered for these types of conditions" is fair.
The D8 operator has the shank tucked in tight to the machine. Of course its going to pick up the back of the dozer. the ripper is supposed to be open until its below the surface.
Interesting stunt, and convincing to those who do not understand the application. Why didn't you let the Cat sink his shank angle in? Why is the D8 ripper shank longer? Why is the center shank on the Komatsu shorter?
I wonder how long it took you guys to layer the right amount of fill to keep the Cat in the rock and Komatsu in fill.
Interesting stunt. You should try it again with rippers of the same depth, and operators who know how to rip.
if you own a cat,it must be one that has fur and goes meow, because someone that has run a dozer,let alone owns would be able to see that the cat is trying to rip in ROCK,and thetin can dozer,(komatsu) is an fill
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komatsu 1nc again proving its superiaority over cat. cat operator has no idea how to make his 4 barrel work to his advantage.dont like v pissy 2 ram ripper set up on v komatsu either. great video jared.
ya well i do my fair amount of driving of equipment and im 14 so this dude sounds like hes 30 and hes just trying to be ooptimistic cuz even he knows which is better
congradulations for one thing the cats one ripper is alot deeper then the other one and theyr clearly not in a similiar gear the komatsu is in a higher gear of course its gonna pass it. this tested is rigged like shit everybody knows that cat is the industry leader for earthmoving equipment wake up
not a fair video.you can not compare base on only ripper performance.the single shank in d8r can penetrate in rock terrain better than the stupid design of komatsu three shank ripper.better to take komatsu in the farmer field to plough. d8r is much faster as a general purpose work than komatsu. d8r is most popular machine here in gulf region.
wiseman7862000 2 weeks ago
Caterpillar used to be the leading source of construction equiptment and Truck engines, but I hate to say it but Caterpillar isn't what it once was. The earlier Cat powered dozers are WAY better than the new stuff they make. It's just a fact that people has to get over. Cat needs to bring the Name and quality back. I my self like caterpillar, but they are losing loyality to many companies around the world.
surrynet 2 weeks ago
I operated D155A in 1976, it was great dozer,
saykhamv 1 month ago
This video just proves that a komatsu can rip dirt faster then a cat can rip rock
BOSSMACH351 1 month ago
caterpillar is like the usa....many countries tried for many years to bring her down and FAILED,i will always love cat and i dont mind this bs video
9000peter 1 month ago
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LiberationWay 2 months ago
Physics, equal HP equal weight and looks like equal traction. It is imposable to pull three times the shank if the resistance per shank is the same. Must be rigged.
dmichaelf 2 months ago
Poor old USA no one can ever possibly build anything better than you guys. Stop making excuses, sometimes you just get beaten.
beno2662 3 months ago
crape! the d155 is newer, bigger, beter engine, put that faget fuck next to my D9T!!!!! then weel see who rips better? lol hahahaha
bcmcustoms1 3 months ago
Well if the guy on the 8 knew how to rip and put more of an angle on the ripper so he could get under the rock (like the komatsu is doing) he could probably rip alot better.
Vapor300 3 months ago
Einfach die Beste
Suedschwedebws 3 months ago
the cat is simply breaking ground for the komatsu to make it look better
derkman429 4 months ago
Don't care how "wonderful the komatsu is. I'll keep my money here in the USA.
akretowicz 5 months ago 2
@akretowicz actually, komatsus are made in the usa also. Just got 2 brand new wa 320's at work, both were made in america.
edobob37 4 months ago
You know if they were so confident of the Komatsu why didnt they swap places so we could see the Komatsu stall out in the harder soil, Cat D8's have pulled three shanks for years and years before the 155 ever rolled off the assembly line, i spent 8 months working at a komatsu dealer and the customers screamed about those pieces of crap, if you ask most Komatsu owners why they bought Komatsu they will say because the Cat machine was 6 months out, Komatsu has copied most Cat ideas.
fjnunesaz 6 months ago
I want to make foolish ja
criollolobo 6 months ago
komatsu 155 is heavier and spends almost twice as diesel caterpillar
caterpillar bulldozer not using all its power and that the bands Begins to skate and there does not slip
criollolobo 6 months ago
komatsu are well known as junk thats why you always see a dump truck on their josites to go around picking up the pieces off that jap crap
Blainebarger 6 months ago
Our D8R at work is one gutless POS & is way too light for a heavy dozer.
56pw 7 months ago
this is not considered a real test ... Cat = many long technical life.
MrExcavatorman 8 months ago
The cat operator didn't pull his shank under him. He's dragging it through the ground not ripping it through.
jamesman86044 8 months ago
@HomebrewCigarsmoker Hydrostatic drive? If you don't know anything about Komatsu bulldozers best not comment on whether this was apples to apples test. D155AX-6 is NOT hydrostatic drive it has what Komatsu call HSS Hydrostatic Steering System. This is just a hydraulic motor which rotates the ring gears in the planetary drives that are outboard of the bevel gear. It is definitely one hundred percent mechanical drive.
davecusack1 8 months ago
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MrExcavatorman 9 months ago
The cat has a nicer growl to it!
powerstrokeking 9 months ago
look at dozer blade history cat and deere both are remakes of dresser cat is just a copy cat
76target 9 months ago
omg ju amerikans only love your own made things like deeres and caterpillar but yea they are both good companys but i like komatsu more couse they have better well all the things are better with komatsu but volvos excavator are my favorites and i know im going to get many dislikes but thats just what i think
toxysalt11 9 months ago
el operador no es el indicado pa esa makina porla forma que trabaja a introdusir el escalificador en el terreno y so que se be que el terreno no es muy duro que digamos y eso que me buelco por la cat ya que toda mi vida e trabajado con esta marca de makinas un poco mas de experiencia no le bendria bien
runbero18 9 months ago
I would just buy a d9 instead of that komatsu POS.
jozzie2000 10 months ago
The D8 has a nice purr to it though.
powerstrokeking 10 months ago
dont think this is an apples to apples test .... sorry sui fans
96thedirt 10 months ago
but Caterpiller is made by union labor in Illinois and Obama LOVES union labor and union workers love Obama. since we can't disagree with Obama, or be labeled racist, and union workers will burn down your house..I'm inclined to say Caterpiller is a better dozer.
floatpool 11 months ago
@floatpool HAHAHA right on!
Vicsonvee 11 months ago
none of this matters. the peice of crap komatsu is going to brake down at least twice a month and the cat is going to keep running. you can only use a machine that runs. not one thats sitting in the garage
jscook2005 1 year ago
@HomebrewCigarsmoker Well said.
vantagetes 1 year ago
i have never ever seen a fair comparison from equipment manufacturers
MrDeeretime 1 year ago
I run a 96' 155 with 15,000hrs alongside a new D8T last spring and out ripped him in a hard rock borrow pit, Komatsu have always had a better ripping dozer and better blade design on virtually everthing they make. Notable exceptions for me were the 135 and the 58LGP, both P'sOS and not made anymore. I know some owners that have done very well with Komatsu since the 60's (After the cat dealer screwed them on parts) ...So it goes both ways.
CDNcatskinner 1 year ago
I know you sell komatsu for a living . I've been in the mining industry for over 30 yrs. I've seen them try komatsu several times. It never works out they do allright for about a year then there junk. Can't get parts, parts cost double nightmare to service, track em by the oil leaks. there excavators are good though. Dozers and loaders and trucks no good.
travcmbs 1 year ago
sorry boys the komatsu is just better there is not much diff in horse power its the wieght and that hight track frame of the cat - please get rid of it its a very bad designe make the masjine useless
TRUTH2010NR 1 year ago
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Anybody trust that piece of shit Kamatsu has never been around them..I have been operationg for 10 years dozers and both have been on jobs..then Kamatus were ALWAYS broke down..and the one comment is true about turnaround always were waiting on parts for Kamatsu..stupid japanese junk.
ws6talovr 1 year ago
Anybody trust that piece of shit Kamatsu has never been around them..I have been operationg for 10 years dozers and both have been on jobs..then Kamatus were ALWAYS broke down..and the one comment is true about turnaround always were waiting on parts for Kamatsu..stupid japanese junk.
ws6talovr 1 year ago
Anybody trust that piece of shit Kamatsu has never been around them..I have been operationg for 10 years dozers and both have been on jobs..then Kamatus were ALWAYS broke down..and the one comment is true about turnaround always were waiting on parts for Kamatsu..stupid japanese junk.
ws6talovr 1 year ago
look at 2:13 ca only had one ripper and komatsu had 2 big ripper and 1 smaller middle ripper whats wrong with CAT ????
komatsu575 1 year ago
No plant will grow from that ground anyway
lunna2k 1 year ago
THEYLL BE BEGGIN FOR THE CAT WHEN THE FORIEGN POS KEEPS BREAKIN DOWN
THENCSASQUATCH 1 year ago
cylinder isn't even extended on the cats ripper.
JunTaoMotorSports 1 year ago
Weak.....ok first off komappartsoon's suck... second off its easy to rip that which has allready been ripped... then there is the cat ripping virgin ground in first gear, with crap for grousers..... and the shank tipped forward.. worthless video
Tarababyz 1 year ago
komatsu do good machines now, but for old machines caterpillar is the best.
thierry1026 1 year ago
The dumb ass CAT driver tilts the blade too much forward. The Komatsu has them tilted back so it pulls itself in. Next to that, the Komatsu shanks are a foot shorter. At what depth is the bedrock ????????
RenzeZielman 1 year ago
Why don't all you jap lovin cheapskate cocksuckers go live in Japan, and take your fucking Kajunksu's with ya
NakedDave100 1 year ago
We are mining mineral sands in Africa and I can tell you that a Cat is a better quality machine.Our Cat d10r's are still king with more than 35000 hrs in one of the worst abrasive enviroments you can think of. The Komatsu didn't last 4000 hrs before it's first transmission problems kept it in the workshop. And I want to add that our D11R probably rips the hardest rock (Zircon consentrate rock) with ease and no- NO major engine, transmission or undercarriage problems. This is facts, K-WAY NO WAY
jvanrensburg100 1 year ago
Smart and Strong! D155 is top dog across the board! Productivity that you can take to the bank!
KOMATSUIRONM4N 1 year ago
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Fastdirt505 1 year ago
@Fastdirt505 For your information... KOMATSU builds more equipment in the USA than Cat does - Before you go pounding on your chest - check your facts!
KOMATSUIRONM4N 1 year ago 2
Tell me.. Would you rather drive a Japanese Lexus or a crappy Ford? PC200 faster, D155 stronger. And lets not talk about the one and only D575. CAT "another white meat"
ricardosilvao 1 year ago
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Fastdirt505 1 year ago
Each machine has it's benefits, i run a d10 and a komatsu 375, controls are less fatiging on a d10, komatso more quiter, kopmatsu has digital display with built in camera and a you can select recirculating air, the 10 is better for crushing rocks, 10 has better cab with more room to keep your junk and you can see the bottom of the blade. Komatsu brakes don't grab so hard or shift gears as rough becuase of the damper. You run either enough you start to like one.
Markmeblablabla 1 year ago
Wonder which dozer would win a push off dozing against each other, Cat D8R or Komatsu D155A-6? What say we find out? ;=]
Vee6watchman 1 year ago
so which one were you endorsing here?....
krackisgood 1 year ago
have never even ran a komatsu...ha
6str8up 1 year ago
you guys really think they spent all that time just to fake this? to make the komatsu look good?? i personally have ran these to machine..D8T tho and personally i like the komatsu. dont get me wrong there both great machines but it all comes down to prefference. and stop aruging over the internet, makes all of you look like idiots. and BTW we run many komatsu, cats, and even some smaller deere dozers. and we can get parts for all of them in a day. i bet half you people who are favoring the
6str8up 1 year ago
HAHA YA RIGHT!!!
Alaskaforby4 1 year ago
and if a high track is so great why did cat go back to a low track on the d7e?
3bubblehead 1 year ago 2
well lets see each machine in ten years!!!! O whoops ....thats right the komatsu will NOT be around that long..... it will be in a salvage yard!!!
clatterpillar 1 year ago
For the 2 of u arguing which is better, I have run the tracks off of both of em pipelining. The cat will out push, out RIP, and out last the komatsu. If you want to do the research, how about you actually run the damn thing!!! The komatsu aint nothin but a lightweight, unballanced piece of shit. Cat has it all hands down. Hope this settles things.
coleybeen 1 year ago
@coleybeen Pipeliners wreck everything in sight and aren't too smart either. I work with gas wells and the mess that pipeliners make so I am not surprised you have no idea what you are talking about.
3793939 1 year ago
Do you know what the parts availability is on CAT vs. Komatsu? Night and day, if something breaks on your Komatsu, you might as well call the mahchine down for a week while they fly the part in for you. With CAT if parts aren't available in stock, they are usually available overnight. Makes all the difference when talking about production.
deezysparks 1 year ago
you are so full of it...thats an 8r series 1 it has les horsepower
markdmy 1 year ago 2
@markdmy Wrong, that is a series II
jaredjohnson1977 1 year ago
Anybody with a brain will tell you the Komatsu will push more...larger capacity Sigma Blade...Forst innovation in dozer balde technology in 50 years. You Cat lovers need to come up with a new line...you can't beat KOMATSU UP OVER PARTS ANYMORE. More weight/horsepower equal superir value in the class...besides, you really don't want to see a D275 really embarass a D9...do ya? Cat doesn't innovate anything anymore...they copy it!
weritter1 1 year ago 2
The Komatsu D155 is superior because of a high capacity torque Convertor, K-Bogie,more weight, more horsepoawer and more track on ground. Period. The D155 has 3 shanks buried and the Cat can't get one in the ground. Imagine the production advantage if that had been a D8T? Evderybody knows their latest is inferior to the D8R. Cat also has a more moving parts, contributing to higher costs.
weritter1 1 year ago 2
@weritter1 A D8T will push as much and ripp as much as a D8R,I know ran them bolth for many hours, lets do the same test that was done here same situation same materail, only differance lets switch places with dozers then the D8 will walk away BECAUSE HE WILL BE IN THE FILL!!!!!!!!!!! THIS VID IS RIGGED BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MrCatD8T 1 year ago
Hmmmm... 3 stubby shanks vs one big shank rolled all way back. Not impressed. Nice way to sell a piece of shit. How about gettin them in a pit and see who pushes more? The CAT will win. Been there done that. You'll need operators to run em to not salesmen. I'm just talkin from close to 15 years of runnin dozers.
8213NATE 1 year ago
Are you kidding! While we are at it why don't we get a D575 and let it push with a D9. Some of the comments made are ridiculous. The point of the demonstration was to put the same class dozer up against each other. That's what we did and the results are obvious. That's why the customer purchased the Komatsu.
jaredjohnson1977 1 year ago 4
@jaredjohnson1977 tell the d8 to go full throttle
markdmy 1 year ago
@jaredjohnson1977 Cat would have done the same thing in fill to
MrCatD8T 1 year ago
@jaredjohnson1977
Any idea why Cat chose to have a 'high-drive' final sprocket?
Am wondering whether there might be a distant parallel between say, a Honda Accord and a Cadillac DTS (feel's quite different behind the wheel)?
Vee6watchman 1 year ago
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@jaredjohnson1977 Caterpillar operátor has a bad angle ripper...
MrExcavatorman 8 months ago 5
Shes a great machine that Komatsu alright...Just out perfroms the Cat very easy...VERY KOOL!!
MissGabi45 1 year ago
how do you know if one side had more rocks than the other because im a cat person and they are way better machine
lilhootie43 1 year ago
After running the komapartsoon I begged for the D8!! komapartsoon has no uphill power at all!
schizm99 1 year ago
@schizm99 that is wat i thought while running the 155
MrCatD8T 1 year ago
even if komatsu has bigger machines than caterpillar,cat has better experience than
the gay machinery from komatsu,plus cat is smart with not having big shit like komatsu
cause then the parts cost more soyou got to waste money on your shit of machinery
doZerrpowerr564 1 year ago 2
My apologies for the multiple posts...
KVB00anidaR 1 year ago
We did finish a leveling job a couple of weeks ago, some of the equipment on the job included 3 D155AX-3's, 1 D8T, and one D8R. Our foreman and operators reported back that as usual the D155AX-3's made the D8's look sick. As our top operator said, other than CAT perhaps enjoying some slight advantages (he was on the D8T) the Komatsu's were embarrassing the CAT's, 12-13k hour Komatsu's burying a 4000 hour D8T.
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n fact, we've had machines with up to 20,000 hours that never required anything more done to the major componentry, than an inframe on the engine at 20k. That being said, we did have some final drive failures with the D59P, D85E-21, & D135A-2 models, where earlier models had seemingly indestructible final drives, much unlike D7G's for instance. However, those models are almost ancient history.
KVB00anidaR 1 year ago
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n fact, we've had machines with up to 20,000 hours that never required anything more done to the major componentry, than an inframe on the engine at 20k. That being said, we did have some final drive failures with the D59P, D85E-21, & D135A-2 models, where earlier models had seemingly indestructible final drives, much unlike D7G's for instance. However, those models are almost ancient history.
KVB00anidaR 1 year ago
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n fact, we've had machines with up to 20,000 hours that never required anything more done to the major componentry, than an inframe on the engine at 20k. That being said, we did have some final drive failures with the D59P, D85E-21, & D135A-2 models, where earlier models had seemingly indestructible final drives, much unlike D7G's for instance. However, those models are almost ancient history.
KVB00anidaR 1 year ago
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n fact, we've had machines with up to 20,000 hours that never required anything more done to the major componentry, than an inframe on the engine at 20k. That being said, we did have some final drive failures with the D59P, D85E-21, & D135A-2 models, where earlier models had seemingly indestructible final drives, much unlike D7G's for instance. However, those models are almost ancient history.
KVB00anidaR 1 year ago
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n fact, we've had machines with up to 20,000 hours that never required anything more done to the major componentry, than an inframe on the engine at 20k. That being said, we did have some final drive failures with the D59P, D85E-21, & D135A-2 models, where earlier models had seemingly indestructible final drives, much unlike D7G's for instance. However, those models are almost ancient history.
KVB00anidaR 1 year ago
n fact, we've had machines with up to 20,000 hours that never required anything more done to the major componentry, than an inframe on the engine at 20k. That being said, we did have some final drive failures with the D59P, D85E-21, & D135A-2 models, where earlier models had seemingly indestructible final drives, much unlike D7G's for instance. However, those models are almost ancient history.
KVB00anidaR 1 year ago
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n fact, we've had machines with up to 20,000 hours that never required anything more done to the major componentry, than an inframe on the engine at 20k. That being said, we did have some final drive failures with the D59P, D85E-21, & D135A-2 models, where earlier models had seemingly indestructible final drives, much unlike D7G's for instance. However, those models are almost ancient history.
KVB00anidaR 1 year ago
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n fact, we've had machines with up to 20,000 hours that never required anything more done to the major componentry, than an inframe on the engine at 20k. That being said, we did have some final drive failures with the D59P, D85E-21, & D135A-2 models, where earlier models had seemingly indestructible final drives, much unlike D7G's for instance. However, those models are almost ancient history.
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KVB00anidaR 1 year ago
n fact, we've had machines with up to 20,000 hours that never required anything more done to the major componentry, than an inframe on the engine at 20k. That being said, we did have some final drive failures with the D59P, D85E-21, & D135A-2 models, where earlier models had seemingly indestructible final drives, much unlike D7G's for instance. However, those models are almost ancient history.
KVB00anidaR 1 year ago
Anyone that thinks a CAT will outlast a Komatsu in service life either doesn't know what they're talking about or is close to brain-dead.
We run both Komatsu & CAT, CAT since 1961, Komatsu since the early 70's. Most models of Komatsu will far outlast the equivalent model of CAT, before a major rebuild is required. I
KVB00anidaR 1 year ago
@KVB00anidaR why dont you tell me why the 320 bl that has close to 12000 hrs is still running strong with out having much of anything done to it, but when we bought a 2008 pc200-8 with only 400 hrs we had a machanic there working on the p.o.s for 2.5 weeks to get it to run it only took 2 hours of work to SHUT THE MACHINE DOWN
MrCatD8T 1 year ago
@MrCatD8T Probably cause the first retard that owned it didn't take care of it. Mrcatd8t you need a labotomy.
3793939 1 year ago
the komatsu has higher gears so it goes faster it is heavier so it gets better traction it also has more horse power but put the 155 up to a D8T or a D9R and see how it does
cowpoke87418 1 year ago
why would the CAT be kicking ass if the ground was wet. It sounds like Mickey Mouse is narrating this video...its funny..!
natalieketchum 1 year ago
That model komatsu has more power than the cat. The cat is 310 hp and the komatsu is 354hp plus the rear end of the komatsu is heaver than the cat. Let's face it here cat cant win every fight.If the the ground was wet the cat would be really kicking ass.
9000peter 1 year ago
CAT is our brand though, save the nation
Dosalt 2 years ago
CAT is our brand though, save the nation
Dosalt 2 years ago
I've read through all these comments...you are all a bunch of dipshits...that Komatsu has a lock up T/C and way more drawbar pull than that CAT that's why its beating it the CAT basically your witnessing Komatsu's superior engineering as it's leaving that joke of a dozer in the dust.
natalieketchum 2 years ago
the CAT dozer is no match to the Komatsu dozer CAT sells underwear and boots a true marketing company Komatsu is a true engineering company....CAT "another white meat".
natalieketchum 2 years ago
Grousers are gone on the Cat, new on the Kom.
Traction is not equal here and on real hard surface like this it kills any performance.
this test gives false results because of this.
Weight the tractors the same with the same grouser height and lets see what happens then.
alvie2 2 years ago
the company i work for has a 320 Bl cat trache, they wanted to up grade and komatsu made us one hell of a deal or SO WE THOUGHT, its been run for 16 count them 16 hour and has had the MECHANIC there for 12 of them, better machine huh jaredjohnson,we still have the 320 it is still running getting the job done komatsu still has a mechanic
MrCatD8T 2 years ago
also your komatsu has 4 extra carrier rollers to worry about when they seiz up :D more grief from the komatsu!!!
rogueorange 2 years ago
in addition to my last comment, id like to say that if u choose to you can use caterpillars rotating bushing for the track chain wich eliminate the need for Bushing turns on the tracks, enjoy servicing your komatsu and waiting for parts :D and enjoy taking the track off when u gota get the bushings turned, meanwhile the cat would still be going, AAAND enjoy taking your tracks off and jacking the machine up just to change the sprocket teeth, while the CAT you can replace it without track removal
rogueorange 2 years ago 5
Again, do your research. Komatsu offers a Parallel linkage system as well.
jaredjohnson1977 2 years ago 3
@jaredjohnson1977 Doesn't matter the cumapartsoon has more failures!!
schizm99 1 year ago
@jaredjohnson1977 Doesn't matter the cumapartsoon has far more failures!
schizm99 1 year ago
@rogueorange
Yea what r u talking about, u think cat's the only one that offers a track with rotating bushings? Komatsu has that too i just installed some on a d65.
ethan12345ethan 1 year ago
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@rogueorange if the high track is so great whyd cat go back to the low track on the d7e?
3bubblehead 1 year ago
@rogueorange
And in the CAT it comes with a special option.. Fuel consumption.. While the Cat is drinking at the pump, the Komatsu will be still out working.
At the end of the day, both very impressive production machines...
CDFJCB 1 year ago
@ video poster, you think that the komatsu is soooo muc bettter from one little test, needless to say that the CAT will outlast that komatsu in service life, Caterpilar will give you 48 hour parts turnaround as a MAXIMUM for any part, udually it is that day or over night, komatsu will screw you three ways till sunday to get u sum parts, and the final drives and all undercarriage gear on that komatsu is inferior to the elevated sproket. GO CAT GO, that komatsu is a dog... nuff said
rogueorange 2 years ago
You dont have any clue as to what you are talking about. Maybe you should educate yourself prior to making false claims. Komatsu has a 24 hour guarantee on parts turnaround. Also, Komatsu has "inferior" Finals, Why did Cat have to raise there final out of the dirt. The Komatsu undercarriage will out last the Cats 2 to 1. I have fact to back that up.
jaredjohnson1977 2 years ago 2
i do have a clue what i am talking about, the service requirements for komatsu is higher than that of the cats, also komatsu dont have the new "SystemOne" track chain system. adn cat did not have to raise there finals, they chose to because it is a wiser design, cat still make oval tracks... encase you did not know that. the new D7E is oval tracked
rogueorange 2 years ago
@jaredjohnson1977 yea finally someone who looks at facts instead of the name!! cat is waaaayyyyyy overrated.
bobistuff 1 year ago
@rogueorange Let's talk service life... Caterpillar takes pumps from one vendor, finals from another, transmission from another ect. while the KOMATSU is 100% built and manufactured by KOMATSU - Can you say Harmony? All parts working together add up to almost twice the componet life before failure if maintained properly.
KOMATSUIRONM4N 1 year ago
@KOMATSUIRONM4N I found parts to be over expensive? Poor availability of aftermarket parts? What models are built in the USA? I paid $1000 per hole for pistons and liners.....its not an airplane engine I thought?
copperheadmarine 1 year ago
KOMATSU or CATERPILLAR i like them both and sadly they are both JAPENESE in MACHINE PARTS caterpillar used to be 100% american but not these days ive used cats D8 up to D11 and Komatsus from D255 up to D575 i like them both they r both good machines as long there is care putted in them like regular serving and lubing most of all i like komatsus a little better because they have cummins in their machinery
komatsu575 2 years ago
I think, Komatsu is way better than Cat, and it looks more like a classic dozer without the delta.
beerdeddi 2 years ago
bull shit !!!! CATERPILLAR BEST EVER !!!!!!
TACOMAOFFROAD 2 years ago 4
Kamatsu also get stuck a lot easier
SHEllrude1 2 years ago 3
I ran a d6 for years and and if I ever tried messin' around like this, my luck, I would have hit a waterline, lol!!! Cant beat a cat
aaronmatt84 2 years ago 3
no the cats ripping in hard rock and the tin cans in materal thats already been disturbeb
MrCatD8T 2 years ago
LOL so tru
rogueorange 2 years ago
Dear friends,
I really think that the greatest handicap of the 155 is that... it's not a Caterpillar!
If this video was made by someone that really now's how machines work's, the CAT will beat the hell of the 155.
diogoccmelo 2 years ago 10
le cat travail dans la roche et le komatsu dans le mou!!! c bidon!!!!
140Hcaterpillar 2 years ago
i hav to say i like the cat's track design more
xXThermobaricXx 2 years ago 5
They should have changed lines on the way back;) Or ripp in the untouched ground. This is´t fare even to the Komatsu. Wining by cheat is always a loose :(
Connykol 2 years ago 3
well wheres the other 2 shanks on the Cat? this is almost pointless, they should both be set up the same way, regardless, Cat all the way in the end
2500Jerry 2 years ago 4
cat all the way
MrCatD8T 2 years ago 2
I'm no expert but I'm willing to bet that the CAT is quite a bit more expensive?
ToonandBBfan 2 years ago
yes they are and theres a good reason THERE BETTER
MrCatD8T 2 years ago
Take the Komatsu cab and controls and put them on CAT and you'd have a hell of a machine, The biggest and most important difference is H-track vs L, the H-tracks beat you too death. 25yr Dozer operater currently on a CAT D11.
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arnonemesis 2 years ago
I find this video quite misleading, I work for a company with both a D155AX-6 and a D8R on the same site. I have ripped with both bulldozers recently, in fact I was ripping with the 155 yesterday. Our 155 will not rip as our 8R will. The 8 puts its power to the ground better, both machines are running 3 shanks. Our machine just sits and spins out in frozen ground while the 8 pulls down quite nicely. That being said the Komatsu has more power and 10klbs heavier.
Burnout8506 2 years ago 13
some one else finally understands that a CAT is a better machine right on!!!!!!!!!!
MrCatD8T 2 years ago
I wouldn't say that too loudly....The Cat will outlast the Komatsu in life, and yeah I think it rips better. But the Komatsu is a nice dozer, its frickin quiet, it runs and turns nice. I like the Komatsu, I like the Cat.... but as my friend said what do I know.... I'm just a track loader operator.
Burnout8506 2 years ago
Yeah, and one of the smoothest operators around.
glags 2 years ago
Many folks might question the validity of this test as the D155AX-6 is a more powerful machine than the D8R.
If you're going to compare machines head-to-head you have to a) equalize the machines (same number of shanks), b) switch operators mid-test and c) ensure each is making passes over identical ground conditions. In other words, be more scientific.
The statement "superior engineering" is too general. Saying "engineered for these types of conditions" is fair.
glags 2 years ago 3
nicely said
MrCatD8T 2 years ago
theres no way that asian shit can beat an American made CAT!
CAT Rules!!!!
apolloman45 2 years ago 9
caterpillar rules
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doZerrpowerr564 2 years ago 4
komatsu stinks!!
doZerrpowerr564 2 years ago 8
komatsu is one cheat
jojcrazy 2 years ago 12
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realfacts 2 years ago
The D8 operator has the shank tucked in tight to the machine. Of course its going to pick up the back of the dozer. the ripper is supposed to be open until its below the surface.
CatRep1377 2 years ago 13
Fucking rigged, the Cat was in virgin ground, and the Komatsu was in softer fill, you can see the Cat hit solid rock @ 2:34
69rd96 2 years ago 17
right on, CAT ROCKS
MrCatD8T 2 years ago 5
Interesting stunt, and convincing to those who do not understand the application. Why didn't you let the Cat sink his shank angle in? Why is the D8 ripper shank longer? Why is the center shank on the Komatsu shorter?
I wonder how long it took you guys to layer the right amount of fill to keep the Cat in the rock and Komatsu in fill.
Interesting stunt. You should try it again with rippers of the same depth, and operators who know how to rip.
yieldmap 2 years ago 20
at least someone else can see that this is a rigged stunt
MrCatD8T 2 years ago 6
CATERPILLAR makes the best american machinery !!! and itsbetter than that japanese machinery!!!
doZerrpowerr564 2 years ago 13
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boys just admit it! the komatsu kicked her ass! and i own a cat myself !!!
bengermac 2 years ago
if you own a cat,it must be one that has fur and goes meow, because someone that has run a dozer,let alone owns would be able to see that the cat is trying to rip in ROCK,and thetin can dozer,(komatsu) is an fill
MrCatD8T 2 years ago 7
this is a bullshit this video is cheated
TACOMAOFFROAD 2 years ago 12
GO CAT!!!!!!!!!
maxottobell 2 years ago 9
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komatsu 1nc again proving its superiaority over cat. cat operator has no idea how to make his 4 barrel work to his advantage.dont like v pissy 2 ram ripper set up on v komatsu either. great video jared.
13frontrow 2 years ago
ya well i do my fair amount of driving of equipment and im 14 so this dude sounds like hes 30 and hes just trying to be ooptimistic cuz even he knows which is better
TheMuffinMan9339 2 years ago
congradulations for one thing the cats one ripper is alot deeper then the other one and theyr clearly not in a similiar gear the komatsu is in a higher gear of course its gonna pass it. this tested is rigged like shit everybody knows that cat is the industry leader for earthmoving equipment wake up
TheMuffinMan9339 2 years ago 4
right on dude its nice to see that there are other people that are not stupid RIGHT ON
MrCatD8T 2 years ago 3
komatsu would be in converter lockup giving higher ground speed.
13frontrow 2 years ago