if i was in this band and i was reading these arguments over religion. on fuckin youtube. id ask EMI records to take my vids down. so stop arguing and enjoy the music
I hate adding on this this argument but budiest do not believe in god WIth your fast source of wikipedia but who cares watch the video Did you really come here to flood the comment boxes with unnessesary bull sht?
HELLO FRIENDS! We are an unsigned hardcore band from VA and we just recently uploaded a new song onto our channel called "12 Counts Of Sass In The First Degree". We recorded it in the same studio as INHALE EXHALE and we would LOVE to know your thoughts on it! We also apologize for leaving this comment on Oh Sleeper. The last thing we intend is to offend them or any of you guys, our only intentions are to tell people about our band and ministry! Thanks so much and God Bless!
anoher arguement with a bunch of people who read too deeply into music..take it how u want it guys. music is made to be interpretted differently by each listener. key word LISTEN
Yay people arguing on youtube who are more focused on not accepting anything that the other person says than they are on actually having an intelligent argument! I love the internet...
@evilbunny34 Could mean many things, but seeing as how they're removed at the end I feel the sheepheads are just a mask, like the drugs, and when free of their vices, they can be themselves by removing their mask.
i personally think you're all really pathetic. it's a good song who cares about anyones religious beliefes? A. it's not anyones buisness B. people can choose weather or mot to believe in god, what is trying to act like an intelligant idividual by posting bullshit on youtube doing honestly?
I have an idea....everyone quit the religious debates and listen to the God damn music. no one is going to change anyone's views on whether or not there is a god over a freaking youtube blog.
umm to the people who are annoyed by everyone talking about God... this band is Christian, and they're lyrics are too...sooo...of course people are going to talk about God...
Ok, i've never really listened to these guys before......... Somebody PLEASE send me a PM on youtube here listing off all their best songs! Cause i really dig this lol
@NakedPancake well sorry because that day will never come, especially on this bands videos, seeings as the band and everything they do as a band and as people is for God, the real god not a "bullshit" god
@systemofadownownage You're sorry that I don't believe in something there is no proof for? No matter how many times a child raping man in a dress tells you that there is a god that doesn't mean there is any proof. So I would have to say that it is I who really feel sorry for you for living your life based on a lie.
@NakedPancake There's no "proof" that a creator doesn't exist either. There's only evidence. Despite how many times a child molesting high school teacher tells you that existence spawned from an explosion that bathed the universe in radiation and people came to be through a series of random mutations there's no"proof." There's evidence however.
Just thought your argument was flawed, I don't care what you actually believe in as I'm not a self righteous prick.
@DIOronniejamesDIO There is no evidence that a 'creator' exists which means there is no reason at all to believe one does, you can't prove a negative so before telling me my argument is flawed you might want to come up with one that isn't full of fail.
@ErikRiggleman Hey bro, looking around me is not even close to an argument. Look around you or hell even at the screen because then you see what science and advancement of knowledge has produced and what has religion produced?......Corpses of people who called bullshit on their flying sky daddy.
hm.. evolutionists try to explain life.. and all they have come up with is theories and ideas on how we EVOLVED. NOT how life began. To say that life was created randomly is simply unrealistic. even ID people say that there must have been a creator. They don't necessarily accept God, or any other god, as creator, they just say there was some 'designer' involved. Can you, or anyone else, please explain to me then how we came to be? you cant.
@esskater100 No I can't explain how the universe began but scientists are working on trying to understand as much as they can. Just because I can't say how it started doesn't in any way mean that a god or creator did it. Saying I don't know is as far as you can go, there is no need to speculate on what caused it.
Look at how people used to think lightning was caused because their god was angry then science explained what causes it. Weird how god seems to be the cause of less as we learn more.
@NakedPancake My argument was that you failed to understand basic concepts of the theory you apparently subscribe too. Which is fine by me if you're an evolutionist. I never argued that a creator existed, just pointed out your shoddy logic using a parody of your phrasing. Evolution is a scientific theory. It's not science fact. Therefore it's evidence and not proof. You fail to understand simple concepts of the semantics involved in your own argument. Stop being butt hurt. So Q.E.D. bitch.
@DIOronniejamesDIO You do know that science is proving evolution to be correct. Things evolve it happens all the time. Do you really need to see a video of life evolving in order to understand that its fact. Things evolve to fit the needs of their environment. If you believe the whole adam and eve thing thats cool and all but it implies incest among everyone if we have the same source. I thought that stuff was all bad in the bibles point of view so its kind of hypocritical but i guess thats ok.
@NakedPancake well first off im not catholic so there goes that right there i dont have a priest i have a pastor and hes probably one of the chillest people you would ever meet, and secondly proof is all around you. your own existence is proof. but your just too closed-minded and dedicated to the belief that science MUST be right that would never even see the proof.
@NakedPancake this isnt a game. look above even atheists are saying your argument is flawed. and theres a large faith portion of believing in God thats why its called believing. and without God there would be no science. obviously things adapt, but they didnt evolve from little organisms. theres a difference between adapting and evolving
@systemofadownownage I honestly see no point in putting effort into a response to something you say when it is this stupid. Having faith is just another way to say "You're a sucker". There is NO proof, evidence, reason to believe, slight sign that maybe a god exists in anyway no matter what word game you want to play and since god doesn't exist he obviously had nothing to do with science. You and people like you are a burden on society.
@tommygun010 Well it's funny that christians who really read the bible see how fucked up it is.....so before you just say random bullshit, link me to the study that shows all these people becoming christian when they 'Read the true word of God' (which says its ok to own people as slaves btw) and since I know that you can't you should stop typing because you're a moron.
@tommygun010 Exodus21,verse 20- 21 "If a man strikes his male or female slaves with a rod and he dies at his hand he shall be punished, if however he survives a day or two no vengance shall be taken for he is his property." Also in the book of the law it tells you who you can own for how long, how to mark them and sell them. Jesus also says "Slaves obery your masters". You should probably read the book your faith is based on. Also those are 2 morons not studies showing people who read convert.
@NakedPancake it's clear to me that you have never read a history book because every ancient civilization had "slaves" or "servants" neither of which are the type of "slave" commonly thought of such as those in American history. telling slaves to obey their masters is far from saying that slavery is a good. those two "morons" are both exceding renowned in there area of expertise and have both conducted a number of studies on the subject of attempting to disprove the bible.
@tommygun010 Hmm it tells you tricks to keep jews as slaves for double the time, that they are considered property and can be bought or sold and you mark them by nailing a spike through their ear. Thats the divine word of your extra moral god and it is fucked up. Those two are also only renowed by the community of idiots who are dumb enough to believe the bible. There may be some events in it that are true (The existance of some cities) but that doesn't prove that the rest of it is true.
@NakedPancake You're clearly an idiot who has never studied any history or read out side of verses you've found on the internet as a source against the bible. an awl was a common tool used to pierce ears in ancient civilizations. In Hebrew culture a person could choose to sell themselves into slavery as a way to pay off debts. you clearly havn't read any verses outside what you've found on the internet to use as a source against the bible.
@tommygun010 That doesn't change the fact that people were considered property and their masters could beat them as far as death aslong as they didn't die the same day. I also think it is quite funny that you consider me an idiot when you believe in something that there is no evidence for at all.
@NakedPancake thats exactly why your a moron. you take false information as truth or part of the whole as the whole and attempt to make an argument. mathew 7:12 just nullified you're entire argument. again slavery in ancient times was very different that it is today so stop being ignorant and read a history book.
@tommygun010 What false information am I taking as truth? Mathew 7:12 doesn't change anything and you still haven't provided evidence to support the existance of a god.
@tommygun010 A rapid change in the environment that could have allowed for life to quickly evolve (i.e. The end of a global ice age or the levels of oxygen at the begining of the cambrian were high enough to support larger organisms). Although I could also say "I have no idea" and that would still do 100% nothing to support the existance of a god.
@NakedPancake fast enough that single or even multi cell microbes could immediatly spawn over 50 different phyla of animals? No. there is also no explanation for the utter lack of time organisms have had to evolve. anyone who has taken somthing as basic as highschool biology could explain this to you. It also doesn't explain where neanderthals come from.
@tommygun010 What you don't seem to understand is the process of natural selection, micro and macro evolution could be 100% wrong (which it is not) and that wouldn't do anything to prove the existance of a god.
@NakedPancake it's you who seem to not understand what natural selection is. there simple isn't enough time for natural selection to change living organisms to the point they have been changed without help. you also don't seem to understand logic. living organisms suddenly appear in the cambrian explosion with no explanation. Neanderthals are not linked to any other previously existing organisms. If natural selection caused the existence of humans then why do we have moral choice?
@tommygun010 Morals are subjective, as a social species we function better and have a better chance to survive in groups, murdering or harming one another would harm our chances to survive.
@NakedPancake Monkeys, crows, wolves, elephants, lions, monkey and dozens of other animals live in groups with no murder within the group. However, humans murder, and steal from amoung eachother. However unlike animals we have a sense of right and wrong. how does this help us survive?
@tommygun010 You said monkeys twice and in their core groups killing one another is not going to happen too often but if a wolf from another family tries to move in on another family hell yes they will kill one another.
Other animals also have a sense of right and wrong not just humans.
What you seem to again not understand is 'I DON'T KNOW' is a fine fucking answer. Science could be wrong about 100% everything we know today and you know how much that proves god exists? Not one fucking bit
@AvengedbyWhiteChapel Oh noes people threatening me because I know the bible is full of shit and is a waste of paper. Using violence to spread the good word! How typical of a moron who believes in that garbage.
@NakedPancake slavery in the bible is based off of debt, it was nothing similar in any way to what you would think of the way americans owned africans. dont try and use a book to your advantage if you dont even believe whats written in it. you cant just pick and choose what will work in your favor and what wont.
@NakedPancake only ones who dont know what they are talking about. millions of people call themselves "christians" and dont really mean it. they are the kind of people that 99% of the worlds opinions on christians are based off of.
@systemofadownownage How perfect it works out for you that if someone is a fuckin wack job you get to claim that they aren't really christians. That is a logical fallacy and you are a moron for not knowing that.
@NakedPancake clearly. i never said they werent christians i said they dont mean it. like a very large portion of catholics more than protestants. not to be derogatory towards catholics, but that is usually how it is. im not saying thats true about all catholics. but i digress, basically what i was saying can be summed up in one of my favorite quotes "the greatest cause of atheism in the world today is christians. people who acknowledge Christ with their mouths, then walk out the do(cont. next)
@NakedPancake (continued) "walk out the door and deny it with their lifestyle. this is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable." and you have basiclly proved this with your attitude.
@systemofadownownage The greatest cause of atheism is taking a second to realize....THERE IS NO FUCKING REASON TO BELIEVE IN A GOD....any god at all nevermind a personal god.
@dudeonacomputer Well thats too bad, maybe someday you'll realize that there is no floating man in the sky who created you and thinks your special. I would say that you'll grow up some day but I doubt that'll happen :(
@AvengedbyWhiteChapel haha oh shit someone is trying to show you the truth and you dont like it huh? come on how can you honestly think all the bs thats in the bible is true or that the bible itself is true? thats book belongs in a loony bin and anyone who believes in it too. honestly, its not that difficult of a thing to write up and book and use propaganda to get followers and cunningly weave your fuckin lies and preposterous ideas into our brains. i think religion is fuckin morbid.
@hxckid92 well at least i believe in something you little fucker. No one gives a fuck if you dont believe in god or shit like that. and really? an insane asylum? you think over 2 billion people are nuts? Thats alotta shit to take. What about Islam, Hindu, and Buddha? Wow looks like its a hand full of sacrilegious fuckers and possibly most of the world. Whos going to believe that there religion is false?
@Metallicatildeath atheist are people who don't believe in any religion so buddhist are not atheist and why does it matter there are so many different religions how do we know any of them are right
@gio234so Wrong. Atheists don't believe in god. Buddhists don't believe in a god either which makes them atheists as well. Buddhism is technically a religion but a better way to look at it is a philosophy.
@systemofadownownage You call him closed-minded because he believes science must be right. IF thats the correct logic then your closed-minded for believing religion must be right. I don't understand why you religious people can't accept that science is able to be proven. We can prove evolution, maby not to the point of a nice picture book for you but we can prove alot of things your religion gives to god. "proof is all around you" show me god and then ill believe, until then piss off.
Ive had a lot of talk about the matter with youth leaders about this issue, and I still am to contact some of them. I do like some screamo/heavy metal and i am not against the concept. I think even you agree there are some frauds around who are not really christians. Oh sleeper has ... half of my approval. as if they need it lol. I am still against the concept of christian hardcore, but i understand the argument. As long as they love God
@Chalisevanwyngaardt theres no reason Christian hardcore shouldnt exist. the frauds who claim to be christian will get what they deserve in this life or the next we both know that, and Oh, sleeper, Abr, impending doom, and most of all for today, onward to olympas, a hometown band of mine called i am alpha and omega, they ALL do everything they do as a band for Gods glory. you should go to a for today show regardless of weather you like metal or not, because it wil blow your mind
@shalkadarula - Ive had a lot of talk about the matter with youth leaders about this issue, and I still am to contact some of them. I do like some screamo/heavy metal and i am not against the concept. I think even you agree there are some frauds around who are not really christians. Oh sleeper has ... half of my approval. as if they need it lol. I am still against the concept of christian hardcore, but i understand the argument. As long as they love God
@Chalisevanwyngaardt, listen to yourself "Christian hardcore is from the pit of hell". How can something that is of God come from Hell? That makes no sense at all. Jus go back to Scriputure to when the Pharisees accused Jesus of being of the devil in Matthew 12:22-37, it says a house divided against itself cannot stand (v.25). It would be pointless if the devil is using this band because they are making music that glorifies God and advances his kingdom, which is exactly what satan does NOT want.
@Chalisevanwyngaardt that verse refers to one who clams to be Christ come again. and this music is not blasphemous in anyway just look at the lyrics(they are very christian) as for "making unearthly sounds" their vocals are earthly normal human sounds.and where in the bible is it blasphemous to scream and praise G-D?..just because you dont like the music does NOT mean its blasphemous or bad....G-d-bless.
@Chalisevanwyngaardt Wow dude...You also need not make soft acoustic sounds for christian music. Who is to say thats not blastphemous. This is good music..dont like it then t(^-^t) screw you
@Chalisevanwyngaardt They never claimed to be the rescue or the redeemer. They are just praising their god the way they know how. Know your scripture buddy.
Hey everyone, me and my mates are in a punk rock band called Deep Theory, and we've recently made 4 songs. We haven't copied any bands in beats, only beats that WE think are original. We are 11 - 13 years old and check us out and tell us what you think!
not sure y all ppl dunt listen to this type of music. It makes my heart race. Y'know how ppl find opera beautiful? Well...u could almost call Micah's nd Shane's singing nd screaming beautiful. x_x
OH, SLEEPER FANS!! check us out! we are 'I Met Tragedy' from Arlington, TX, a city away from oh,sleeper (fort worth). We have 2 new live recording videos posted. we'd appreciated some feedback from YOU guys. go to our profile and look at the songs entitled "December Forever" and "A Plague Upon Us". We also have some studio songs from our old ep posted too. We're also on itunes
p.s. sorry to post these annoying "look at us!" comments, but, we gotta do something to get notcied ;)
lol justin beieber is just as skilled only he's not as unique as oh sleeper, oh sleeper is new and fresh as well as extremely talented, . . . bieber isn't new or fresh but he's talented lolz
@apolllos7 Yeah i mean you can't say justin beieber sucks because you don't like his music. I don't like his music but he doesn't suck. Just like you can't say u don't like oh sleeper. If you don't like their style then you don't like it. You can't say they suck because they don't. They have lots of talent. One of the most talented bands i have ever come acrost.
@killabeeesting13 Justin Beiber doesn't suck, he has a good voice. I just dislike him, because the lyrics are useless and everything but his voice isn't talented whatsoever, it's just computerized, then he's SUPER famous when other bands that actually have LOTS of talent, and good lyrics (Like Oh, Sleeper) aren't noticed at all.
"HEY GUYS!!! We are an unsigned hardcore band and we have a few songs that we recorded in the same studio as INHALE EXHALE uploaded to our youtube, it would really mean the world to us to hear what you guys think of em! We also mean no disrespect to Oh Sleeper or anyone else for posting on their vid. We are just trying to promote our band and ministry. Thanks so much guys <3
HEY GUYS!!! We are an unsigned hardcore band and we have a few songs that we recorded in the same studio as INHALE EXHALE uploaded to our youtube, it would really mean the world to us to hear what you guys think of em! We also mean no disrespect to Oh Sleeper or anyone else for posting on their vid. We are just trying to promote our band and ministry. Thanks so much guys <3
wow I like their lyrics alot! The sweeping is cool but.... up and down..... up and down..... the lick after the sweeps is better and more musical. IMHO Great song!!!!
if i was in this band and i was reading these arguments over religion. on fuckin youtube. id ask EMI records to take my vids down. so stop arguing and enjoy the music
crimsondrivemusic 1 year ago
the intro in this song is SOO EPIC!!
the sweeps are cool too ;)
jordanlevesquemusic 1 year ago
I hate adding on this this argument but budiest do not believe in god WIth your fast source of wikipedia but who cares watch the video Did you really come here to flood the comment boxes with unnessesary bull sht?
IMBAD212 1 year ago
STOP FUCKING ARGUING JUST ENJOY THE DAMN MUSIC YOU FUCKERS
slipknot92092 1 year ago 5
their drummer looks like Chris Cole
undeadcorpse521 1 year ago
but on a better note this song is fuckin raw.
hxckid92 1 year ago
I swear in the beginning the singer looks like Eomer from lord of the rings
AugustBurnt 1 year ago
@AugustBurnt lmao i agree!!
cmpunky 1 year ago
HELLO FRIENDS! We are an unsigned hardcore band from VA and we just recently uploaded a new song onto our channel called "12 Counts Of Sass In The First Degree". We recorded it in the same studio as INHALE EXHALE and we would LOVE to know your thoughts on it! We also apologize for leaving this comment on Oh Sleeper. The last thing we intend is to offend them or any of you guys, our only intentions are to tell people about our band and ministry! Thanks so much and God Bless!
BLOODOFTHEMARTYRS 1 year ago
anoher arguement with a bunch of people who read too deeply into music..take it how u want it guys. music is made to be interpretted differently by each listener. key word LISTEN
reversibletaktiks302 1 year ago
Yay people arguing on youtube who are more focused on not accepting anything that the other person says than they are on actually having an intelligent argument! I love the internet...
crazynessman 1 year ago
My throat hurts after listening to that.
timwood1104 1 year ago
this album was amazing, like it rocked my socks, but son of the morning blew it clean out of the water. hahaha favorite band, ever
SeEeid 1 year ago
i love the song but i have no clue what the meaning of the video is i see the scamminng with drugs but thats it why are the wearing sheepheads
evilbunny34 1 year ago
@evilbunny34 Could mean many things, but seeing as how they're removed at the end I feel the sheepheads are just a mask, like the drugs, and when free of their vices, they can be themselves by removing their mask.
AllanonFarsyde 1 year ago
The little girl looks axactly like my friend Ceira :o
xBeyondxThexHorizonx 1 year ago
we're rising against
TheDanimal0877 1 year ago
I don't even know how to describe this video. Simply amazing.
Lozo07 1 year ago
they are amazing! they deserve to be a lot more famous then they are
kevinA7ILDX 1 year ago
HE POINTED AT ME AND STARED AT ME FROM ACROSS STAGE THE ENTIRE TIME OF:"And to the girls,
You're worth more than the cheap words.
You see your body as beauty, but you pulse is worth more."
ha First time seeing them in concert. that. made. it. awesome!!!
1kamikaze2 1 year ago
I saw these guys last night. fucking kickass!!!!
CalderAaron101 1 year ago
@CalderAaron101 IN WACO!?! me too!!!
1kamikaze2 1 year ago
@1kamikaze2 Yeah!!!! It wasw so freaking awesome dude I stage dived like six times!!!!
CalderAaron101 1 year ago
i personally think you're all really pathetic. it's a good song who cares about anyones religious beliefes? A. it's not anyones buisness B. people can choose weather or mot to believe in god, what is trying to act like an intelligant idividual by posting bullshit on youtube doing honestly?
tshaved87 1 year ago
I have an idea....everyone quit the religious debates and listen to the God damn music. no one is going to change anyone's views on whether or not there is a god over a freaking youtube blog.
MoTOwN2014 1 year ago
:D cant wait to see oh,sleeper this saturday:D
101inuyasha 1 year ago
:D they coming to waco texas this saturday!!!!!! ima go see em!!! :D yay!!!!
101inuyasha 1 year ago
I'd rather be counting money and pills than the peas left on my plate... Peas are gross!
karBoat 1 year ago
I wonder if anyone knows that all you have to do is hit f5 to skip the ads most of the time.
GixStar750 1 year ago
New favorite band.
higginztheshoe 1 year ago
seen these guys so many times and every time i just tear it up, theyre soo good, and real men of God
systemofadownownage 1 year ago
intense outro...
RicherdHale 1 year ago
saw them last night with plea for purging! :D it was sickkkkkk
letsgoskate785 1 year ago
only metal can give u music with this much depth.
Gods0n1 1 year ago
i saw this vid on headbangers ball on monday there sic
66punkrocker 1 year ago
why does this video have almost a million views while the others barely have 100,000????........ these guys are awesome
tompkins1113 1 year ago
mmmmmmmmm meds
reapplyingmakeup 1 year ago
What the hell?
dwignut 1 year ago
What the hell?
dwignut 1 year ago
umm to the people who are annoyed by everyone talking about God... this band is Christian, and they're lyrics are too...sooo...of course people are going to talk about God...
johnnyskitty07 1 year ago
Ok, i've never really listened to these guys before......... Somebody PLEASE send me a PM on youtube here listing off all their best songs! Cause i really dig this lol
BobSaggot666 1 year ago 2
@BobSaggot666 this song obviously, siren song, son of the morning, world without a sun - best songs right there
systemofadownownage 1 year ago
Saw them live twice..
..i'll never forget it either.
Archangel4726 1 year ago 8
Tee hee
Chalisevanwyngaardt 1 year ago
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SeasOfRefuge 1 year ago
who wudnt like this song??? It's the shit!!
ienjoiemerica123 1 year ago
I fucking love this band. It's like August Burns Red meets Underoath.
kmshawa7x 1 year ago 4
@kmshawa7x HOLY FUCK, IT IS. This is my first time hearing this band and it sounds exactly like a mixture of August Burns Red and Underoath.
QuiikNSiik 1 year ago 2
1:00 "hey honey could you pass me the salt when you're done with it? these pills taste a bit too bland"
lawlzipwnu 1 year ago 3
I dream of a day when I can read comments that only involve the music in the video and not bullshit about someone's god.
NakedPancake 1 year ago
@NakedPancake well sorry because that day will never come, especially on this bands videos, seeings as the band and everything they do as a band and as people is for God, the real god not a "bullshit" god
systemofadownownage 1 year ago
@systemofadownownage Any god is a "bullshit" god my good sir.
NakedPancake 1 year ago
@NakedPancake im sorry you think that
systemofadownownage 1 year ago
@systemofadownownage You're sorry that I don't believe in something there is no proof for? No matter how many times a child raping man in a dress tells you that there is a god that doesn't mean there is any proof. So I would have to say that it is I who really feel sorry for you for living your life based on a lie.
NakedPancake 1 year ago
@NakedPancake There's no "proof" that a creator doesn't exist either. There's only evidence. Despite how many times a child molesting high school teacher tells you that existence spawned from an explosion that bathed the universe in radiation and people came to be through a series of random mutations there's no"proof." There's evidence however.
Just thought your argument was flawed, I don't care what you actually believe in as I'm not a self righteous prick.
DIOronniejamesDIO 1 year ago
@DIOronniejamesDIO There is no evidence that a 'creator' exists which means there is no reason at all to believe one does, you can't prove a negative so before telling me my argument is flawed you might want to come up with one that isn't full of fail.
NakedPancake 1 year ago
@NakedPancake No evidence of a Creator? Try looking around you bro.
ErikRiggleman 1 year ago
@ErikRiggleman Hey bro, looking around me is not even close to an argument. Look around you or hell even at the screen because then you see what science and advancement of knowledge has produced and what has religion produced?......Corpses of people who called bullshit on their flying sky daddy.
NakedPancake 1 year ago
@NakedPancake
"no evidence"
hm.. evolutionists try to explain life.. and all they have come up with is theories and ideas on how we EVOLVED. NOT how life began. To say that life was created randomly is simply unrealistic. even ID people say that there must have been a creator. They don't necessarily accept God, or any other god, as creator, they just say there was some 'designer' involved. Can you, or anyone else, please explain to me then how we came to be? you cant.
esskater100 1 year ago
@esskater100 No I can't explain how the universe began but scientists are working on trying to understand as much as they can. Just because I can't say how it started doesn't in any way mean that a god or creator did it. Saying I don't know is as far as you can go, there is no need to speculate on what caused it.
Look at how people used to think lightning was caused because their god was angry then science explained what causes it. Weird how god seems to be the cause of less as we learn more.
NakedPancake 1 year ago
@NakedPancake My argument was that you failed to understand basic concepts of the theory you apparently subscribe too. Which is fine by me if you're an evolutionist. I never argued that a creator existed, just pointed out your shoddy logic using a parody of your phrasing. Evolution is a scientific theory. It's not science fact. Therefore it's evidence and not proof. You fail to understand simple concepts of the semantics involved in your own argument. Stop being butt hurt. So Q.E.D. bitch.
DIOronniejamesDIO 1 year ago
@DIOronniejamesDIO You do know that science is proving evolution to be correct. Things evolve it happens all the time. Do you really need to see a video of life evolving in order to understand that its fact. Things evolve to fit the needs of their environment. If you believe the whole adam and eve thing thats cool and all but it implies incest among everyone if we have the same source. I thought that stuff was all bad in the bibles point of view so its kind of hypocritical but i guess thats ok.
fallenb0w 1 year ago
@NakedPancake well first off im not catholic so there goes that right there i dont have a priest i have a pastor and hes probably one of the chillest people you would ever meet, and secondly proof is all around you. your own existence is proof. but your just too closed-minded and dedicated to the belief that science MUST be right that would never even see the proof.
systemofadownownage 1 year ago
@systemofadownownage "Proof is all around me" is not an argument, learn to play.
NakedPancake 1 year ago
@NakedPancake this isnt a game. look above even atheists are saying your argument is flawed. and theres a large faith portion of believing in God thats why its called believing. and without God there would be no science. obviously things adapt, but they didnt evolve from little organisms. theres a difference between adapting and evolving
systemofadownownage 1 year ago
@systemofadownownage I honestly see no point in putting effort into a response to something you say when it is this stupid. Having faith is just another way to say "You're a sucker". There is NO proof, evidence, reason to believe, slight sign that maybe a god exists in anyway no matter what word game you want to play and since god doesn't exist he obviously had nothing to do with science. You and people like you are a burden on society.
NakedPancake 1 year ago
@NakedPancake then it's funny that the majority of people who actually spend time looking into attempting to disprove the bible end up Christian...
tommygun010 1 year ago
@tommygun010 Well it's funny that christians who really read the bible see how fucked up it is.....so before you just say random bullshit, link me to the study that shows all these people becoming christian when they 'Read the true word of God' (which says its ok to own people as slaves btw) and since I know that you can't you should stop typing because you're a moron.
NakedPancake 1 year ago
@NakedPancake look up sir william mitchell ramsay and lee strobel. now it's your turn point to where in the bible it says it's ok to own slaves
tommygun010 1 year ago
@tommygun010 Exodus21,verse 20- 21 "If a man strikes his male or female slaves with a rod and he dies at his hand he shall be punished, if however he survives a day or two no vengance shall be taken for he is his property." Also in the book of the law it tells you who you can own for how long, how to mark them and sell them. Jesus also says "Slaves obery your masters". You should probably read the book your faith is based on. Also those are 2 morons not studies showing people who read convert.
NakedPancake 1 year ago
@NakedPancake it's clear to me that you have never read a history book because every ancient civilization had "slaves" or "servants" neither of which are the type of "slave" commonly thought of such as those in American history. telling slaves to obey their masters is far from saying that slavery is a good. those two "morons" are both exceding renowned in there area of expertise and have both conducted a number of studies on the subject of attempting to disprove the bible.
tommygun010 1 year ago
@tommygun010 Hmm it tells you tricks to keep jews as slaves for double the time, that they are considered property and can be bought or sold and you mark them by nailing a spike through their ear. Thats the divine word of your extra moral god and it is fucked up. Those two are also only renowed by the community of idiots who are dumb enough to believe the bible. There may be some events in it that are true (The existance of some cities) but that doesn't prove that the rest of it is true.
NakedPancake 1 year ago
@NakedPancake You're clearly an idiot who has never studied any history or read out side of verses you've found on the internet as a source against the bible. an awl was a common tool used to pierce ears in ancient civilizations. In Hebrew culture a person could choose to sell themselves into slavery as a way to pay off debts. you clearly havn't read any verses outside what you've found on the internet to use as a source against the bible.
tommygun010 1 year ago 4
@NakedPancake if you had you would have found that a servent who choose to stay with their master would have their ear peirced.
tommygun010 1 year ago
@tommygun010 That doesn't change the fact that people were considered property and their masters could beat them as far as death aslong as they didn't die the same day. I also think it is quite funny that you consider me an idiot when you believe in something that there is no evidence for at all.
NakedPancake 1 year ago
@NakedPancake thats exactly why your a moron. you take false information as truth or part of the whole as the whole and attempt to make an argument. mathew 7:12 just nullified you're entire argument. again slavery in ancient times was very different that it is today so stop being ignorant and read a history book.
tommygun010 1 year ago
@tommygun010 What false information am I taking as truth? Mathew 7:12 doesn't change anything and you still haven't provided evidence to support the existance of a god.
NakedPancake 1 year ago
@NakedPancake ok how do you think we humanity came to exist?
tommygun010 1 year ago
@tommygun010 Can't say for sure but abiogenesis is looking good as basic amino acids have been formed in a lab under condition near early earth.
NakedPancake 1 year ago
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tommygun010 1 year ago
@NakedPancake so would you say that creatures evolve over time into more diverse and complex creatures?
tommygun010 1 year ago
@tommygun010 Yes organisms have evolved over time to better suit their environments, that doesn't mean that they need to become more complex though.
NakedPancake 1 year ago
@NakedPancake starting with single celled organisms?
tommygun010 1 year ago
@tommygun010 yep
NakedPancake 1 year ago
@NakedPancake Then how do you explain the cambrian explosion?
tommygun010 1 year ago
@tommygun010 A rapid change in the environment that could have allowed for life to quickly evolve (i.e. The end of a global ice age or the levels of oxygen at the begining of the cambrian were high enough to support larger organisms). Although I could also say "I have no idea" and that would still do 100% nothing to support the existance of a god.
NakedPancake 1 year ago
@NakedPancake fast enough that single or even multi cell microbes could immediatly spawn over 50 different phyla of animals? No. there is also no explanation for the utter lack of time organisms have had to evolve. anyone who has taken somthing as basic as highschool biology could explain this to you. It also doesn't explain where neanderthals come from.
tommygun010 1 year ago
@tommygun010 What you don't seem to understand is the process of natural selection, micro and macro evolution could be 100% wrong (which it is not) and that wouldn't do anything to prove the existance of a god.
NakedPancake 1 year ago
@NakedPancake it's you who seem to not understand what natural selection is. there simple isn't enough time for natural selection to change living organisms to the point they have been changed without help. you also don't seem to understand logic. living organisms suddenly appear in the cambrian explosion with no explanation. Neanderthals are not linked to any other previously existing organisms. If natural selection caused the existence of humans then why do we have moral choice?
tommygun010 1 year ago
@tommygun010 Morals are subjective, as a social species we function better and have a better chance to survive in groups, murdering or harming one another would harm our chances to survive.
NakedPancake 1 year ago
@NakedPancake if organisms didn't naturally appear from nothing then God is clearly the awnser
tommygun010 1 year ago
@tommygun010 It isn't one or the other.
NakedPancake 1 year ago
@NakedPancake Monkeys, crows, wolves, elephants, lions, monkey and dozens of other animals live in groups with no murder within the group. However, humans murder, and steal from amoung eachother. However unlike animals we have a sense of right and wrong. how does this help us survive?
tommygun010 1 year ago
@tommygun010 You said monkeys twice and in their core groups killing one another is not going to happen too often but if a wolf from another family tries to move in on another family hell yes they will kill one another.
Other animals also have a sense of right and wrong not just humans.
What you seem to again not understand is 'I DON'T KNOW' is a fine fucking answer. Science could be wrong about 100% everything we know today and you know how much that proves god exists? Not one fucking bit
NakedPancake 1 year ago
@NakedPancake "Garbage written in the Bible" lulzz theres a limit to how much you say before you get beaten the shit outta
AvengedbyWhiteChapel 1 year ago
@AvengedbyWhiteChapel Oh noes people threatening me because I know the bible is full of shit and is a waste of paper. Using violence to spread the good word! How typical of a moron who believes in that garbage.
NakedPancake 1 year ago
@NakedPancake Hey you're cool and all for being able to argue but chill. haha Arguing on youtube isn't gonna get you anywhere. ;)
Lozo07 1 year ago
@NakedPancake slavery in the bible is based off of debt, it was nothing similar in any way to what you would think of the way americans owned africans. dont try and use a book to your advantage if you dont even believe whats written in it. you cant just pick and choose what will work in your favor and what wont.
systemofadownownage 1 year ago
@systemofadownownage Funny because thats what people who believe in the garbage written in the bible do.
NakedPancake 1 year ago
@NakedPancake only ones who dont know what they are talking about. millions of people call themselves "christians" and dont really mean it. they are the kind of people that 99% of the worlds opinions on christians are based off of.
systemofadownownage 1 year ago
@systemofadownownage How perfect it works out for you that if someone is a fuckin wack job you get to claim that they aren't really christians. That is a logical fallacy and you are a moron for not knowing that.
NakedPancake 1 year ago
@NakedPancake clearly. i never said they werent christians i said they dont mean it. like a very large portion of catholics more than protestants. not to be derogatory towards catholics, but that is usually how it is. im not saying thats true about all catholics. but i digress, basically what i was saying can be summed up in one of my favorite quotes "the greatest cause of atheism in the world today is christians. people who acknowledge Christ with their mouths, then walk out the do(cont. next)
systemofadownownage 1 year ago
@NakedPancake (continued) "walk out the door and deny it with their lifestyle. this is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable." and you have basiclly proved this with your attitude.
systemofadownownage 1 year ago
@systemofadownownage The greatest cause of atheism is taking a second to realize....THERE IS NO FUCKING REASON TO BELIEVE IN A GOD....any god at all nevermind a personal god.
NakedPancake 1 year ago
@NakedPancake Here's an idea! How about you let people believe what they want to and go on with your life?
dudeonacomputer 1 year ago
@dudeonacomputer When they believe something that fucks up society and the school system.........no.
NakedPancake 1 year ago
@NakedPancake Well have fun ranting for nothing, your not going to change our minds about we believe.
dudeonacomputer 1 year ago
@dudeonacomputer Well thats too bad, maybe someday you'll realize that there is no floating man in the sky who created you and thinks your special. I would say that you'll grow up some day but I doubt that'll happen :(
NakedPancake 1 year ago
@NakedPancake Id say go to hell but it means nothing to you
AvengedbyWhiteChapel 1 year ago
@AvengedbyWhiteChapel Obviously because it doesn't exist, you're starting to catch on.
NakedPancake 1 year ago
@NakedPancake Fuck off sacrilegious bastard
AvengedbyWhiteChapel 1 year ago
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@AvengedbyWhiteChapel It's too bad your god doesn't exist because I would have him suck my dick.
NakedPancake 1 year ago
@AvengedbyWhiteChapel haha oh shit someone is trying to show you the truth and you dont like it huh? come on how can you honestly think all the bs thats in the bible is true or that the bible itself is true? thats book belongs in a loony bin and anyone who believes in it too. honestly, its not that difficult of a thing to write up and book and use propaganda to get followers and cunningly weave your fuckin lies and preposterous ideas into our brains. i think religion is fuckin morbid.
hxckid92 1 year ago
@hxckid92 well at least i believe in something you little fucker. No one gives a fuck if you dont believe in god or shit like that. and really? an insane asylum? you think over 2 billion people are nuts? Thats alotta shit to take. What about Islam, Hindu, and Buddha? Wow looks like its a hand full of sacrilegious fuckers and possibly most of the world. Whos going to believe that there religion is false?
AvengedbyWhiteChapel 1 year ago
@AvengedbyWhiteChapel I'm not trying to contribute to this argument but Buddhists don't believe in a god and they are technically atheists.
Metallicatildeath 1 year ago
@Metallicatildeath atheist are people who don't believe in any religion so buddhist are not atheist and why does it matter there are so many different religions how do we know any of them are right
gio234so 1 year ago
@gio234so Wrong. Atheists don't believe in god. Buddhists don't believe in a god either which makes them atheists as well. Buddhism is technically a religion but a better way to look at it is a philosophy.
Metallicatildeath 1 year ago
@Metallicatildeath wrong. buddists believe in god, they just dont see god as the path to enlightenment or as a judge.
pokerXfaceXplaya 1 year ago
@pokerXfaceXplaya Who is their god then? Also I would like to see a source.
Metallicatildeath 1 year ago
@Metallicatildeath its moreso a sense of connectivity. everyone and everything is holy and god like. and wtf is this, a high school research paper?
pokerXfaceXplaya 1 year ago
@pokerXfaceXplaya Yes.
Metallicatildeath 1 year ago
@Metallicatildeath i get what your sayin, but this punkass fag is trashtalking religion in general, so i included all major religions, god or no god.
AvengedbyWhiteChapel 1 year ago
@Metallicatildeath DId you noticed that he person yoru arguing with is named Pokerface *Cough* lady gaga just starting sht for no reason soo.
IMBAD212 1 year ago
@systemofadownownage You call him closed-minded because he believes science must be right. IF thats the correct logic then your closed-minded for believing religion must be right. I don't understand why you religious people can't accept that science is able to be proven. We can prove evolution, maby not to the point of a nice picture book for you but we can prove alot of things your religion gives to god. "proof is all around you" show me god and then ill believe, until then piss off.
fallenb0w 1 year ago
@fallenb0w piss off? look what video you are on. oh,sleeper... hardcore christian band. and you are telling me to piss off? gimme a break...
systemofadownownage 1 year ago
they are incredible. I should be doing homework. can-not-click-exitttt
edunas24 1 year ago 3
oh stop with all the debates already and just enjoy the music
jd2623 1 year ago
This looks like a typical family dinner in my house.
MochaManMark 1 year ago 3
0:01 to skip adds. thumbs up to keep it going
tuRtLemAn064 1 year ago 36
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doesn't work! why!??? Did they block it!? f5 doesn't work either!
SummerGameProject 1 year ago
Oh, and the music vid is freeeaaky
Chalisevanwyngaardt 1 year ago
@Chalisevanwyngaardt no pun intended i hope
shitshotZ 1 year ago
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Ive had a lot of talk about the matter with youth leaders about this issue, and I still am to contact some of them. I do like some screamo/heavy metal and i am not against the concept. I think even you agree there are some frauds around who are not really christians. Oh sleeper has ... half of my approval. as if they need it lol. I am still against the concept of christian hardcore, but i understand the argument. As long as they love God
Chalisevanwyngaardt 1 year ago
@Chalisevanwyngaardt theres no reason Christian hardcore shouldnt exist. the frauds who claim to be christian will get what they deserve in this life or the next we both know that, and Oh, sleeper, Abr, impending doom, and most of all for today, onward to olympas, a hometown band of mine called i am alpha and omega, they ALL do everything they do as a band for Gods glory. you should go to a for today show regardless of weather you like metal or not, because it wil blow your mind
systemofadownownage 1 year ago
@shalkadarula - Ive had a lot of talk about the matter with youth leaders about this issue, and I still am to contact some of them. I do like some screamo/heavy metal and i am not against the concept. I think even you agree there are some frauds around who are not really christians. Oh sleeper has ... half of my approval. as if they need it lol. I am still against the concept of christian hardcore, but i understand the argument. As long as they love God
Chalisevanwyngaardt 1 year ago
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Chalisevanwyngaardt 1 year ago
@Chalisevanwyngaardt, listen to yourself "Christian hardcore is from the pit of hell". How can something that is of God come from Hell? That makes no sense at all. Jus go back to Scriputure to when the Pharisees accused Jesus of being of the devil in Matthew 12:22-37, it says a house divided against itself cannot stand (v.25). It would be pointless if the devil is using this band because they are making music that glorifies God and advances his kingdom, which is exactly what satan does NOT want.
garageriffs 1 year ago 3
I really find it funny when people call this "unholy music/sounds." Who do you think invented the ability to scream, or to make a note on a guitar?
krewlop2EB 1 year ago
Favorite song by them (:
SheIsVile18 1 year ago
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Chalisevanwyngaardt 1 year ago
@Chalisevanwyngaardt that verse refers to one who clams to be Christ come again. and this music is not blasphemous in anyway just look at the lyrics(they are very christian) as for "making unearthly sounds" their vocals are earthly normal human sounds.and where in the bible is it blasphemous to scream and praise G-D?..just because you dont like the music does NOT mean its blasphemous or bad....G-d-bless.
Crossx39 1 year ago 7
@Chalisevanwyngaardt Whatever happened to shout to the lord??? They're shouting alright =P
JR0dz 1 year ago 2
@Chalisevanwyngaardt LOL
mmalinab 1 year ago
@Chalisevanwyngaardt This is a step up from gospel music being put into rock. If you are going to preach, preach in church, not music.
guitarfreak512 1 year ago
@Chalisevanwyngaardt Wow dude...You also need not make soft acoustic sounds for christian music. Who is to say thats not blastphemous. This is good music..dont like it then t(^-^t) screw you
ultimoXgamer 1 year ago
@Chalisevanwyngaardt They never claimed to be the rescue or the redeemer. They are just praising their god the way they know how. Know your scripture buddy.
shalkadarula 1 year ago
Hey everyone, me and my mates are in a punk rock band called Deep Theory, and we've recently made 4 songs. We haven't copied any bands in beats, only beats that WE think are original. We are 11 - 13 years old and check us out and tell us what you think!
4evaMetallica 1 year ago
not sure y all ppl dunt listen to this type of music. It makes my heart race. Y'know how ppl find opera beautiful? Well...u could almost call Micah's nd Shane's singing nd screaming beautiful. x_x
kidathearts 1 year ago
OH, SLEEPER FANS!! check us out! we are 'I Met Tragedy' from Arlington, TX, a city away from oh,sleeper (fort worth). We have 2 new live recording videos posted. we'd appreciated some feedback from YOU guys. go to our profile and look at the songs entitled "December Forever" and "A Plague Upon Us". We also have some studio songs from our old ep posted too. We're also on itunes
p.s. sorry to post these annoying "look at us!" comments, but, we gotta do something to get notcied ;)
IMetTragedy 1 year ago
very sick
USMCRedneck71 1 year ago
Sick!
DanPrinMan 1 year ago
this song is so sick!
breakdownprada 1 year ago
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cbmatherstew 1 year ago
Damn goosebumps! i cant help but to air guitar it...and this video is crazzzzy
sativaplzz 1 year ago
lol justin beieber is just as skilled only he's not as unique as oh sleeper, oh sleeper is new and fresh as well as extremely talented, . . . bieber isn't new or fresh but he's talented lolz
apolllos7 1 year ago
@apolllos7 Yeah i mean you can't say justin beieber sucks because you don't like his music. I don't like his music but he doesn't suck. Just like you can't say u don't like oh sleeper. If you don't like their style then you don't like it. You can't say they suck because they don't. They have lots of talent. One of the most talented bands i have ever come acrost.
killabeeesting13 1 year ago 3
@killabeeesting13 Justin Beiber doesn't suck, he has a good voice. I just dislike him, because the lyrics are useless and everything but his voice isn't talented whatsoever, it's just computerized, then he's SUPER famous when other bands that actually have LOTS of talent, and good lyrics (Like Oh, Sleeper) aren't noticed at all.
bleachedblak 1 year ago
@apolllos7 oh sleeper has been around for a bit bro
systemofadownownage 1 year ago
great song great meaning
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"HEY GUYS!!! We are an unsigned hardcore band and we have a few songs that we recorded in the same studio as INHALE EXHALE uploaded to our youtube, it would really mean the world to us to hear what you guys think of em! We also mean no disrespect to Oh Sleeper or anyone else for posting on their vid. We are just trying to promote our band and ministry. Thanks so much guys <3
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BLOODOFTHEMARTYRS 1 year ago 30
@BLOODOFTHEMARTYRS you have good sound but theres nothing really memorable about ur songs...
toxical1ty 1 year ago
awsome this is real music unlike justin bieber
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BLOODOFTHEMARTYRS 1 year ago
These guys are musical genius', and their lyrics are EPIC!
thumbs up if you agree
bleachedblak 1 year ago
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rastaman34100 1 year ago
what does it mean when he says, "when I am God?"
JCPrinz 1 year ago
@JCPrinz He's saying "When I am God, this church is unsound." meaning
when he tries to play god in his own life, everything falls apart.
bleachedblak 1 year ago
@bleachedblak oh ok that actually makes perfect sense now!! Thanks dude
JCPrinz 1 year ago
This makes me want to eat my Christ chex and poop out a lil baby jesus
killabeeesting13 1 year ago
i think amy winehouse had the same problem... too many pills ><
hannahsays32 1 year ago 16
@hannahsays32 I was UNABLE to laugh due to that being too funny; that's not easy to do to me...... good job =)
LordByahh 1 year ago
wow I like their lyrics alot! The sweeping is cool but.... up and down..... up and down..... the lick after the sweeps is better and more musical. IMHO Great song!!!!
ihategirls13 1 year ago