MW3: Damage Vs Range (Shotguns) - Which is Better? "Modern Warfare 3"

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WTF people with shot guns r stupid U DON'T AIM IN WITH A SHOT GUN!!!!!

[Megablast668]

@Daan3226 he is in pvt match. Evrything is unlocked there

[goodwolf359]

is there even a damage option for the PC version?

[KrAziiPwNaGe]

you know how i know that you love ur viewers? u used the spas 12 on fallen

[iKrautsalat]

Damage reduces the number of pellets that are needed to kill by 1 at close range(usas, ksg, spas, striker, 1887): this can make a huge differece between life and death; range helps killing the enemy at bit longer distances because of the lack of damage dropoff (especially with usas, spas and aa12). Damage helps you in close gunfights, Range can give you a better moment of surprise.

[johnnygurley]

mp9 vs skorpian

[greekmytholigy]

ok you cant aim because for whatever reason aiming with shoties makes them worse and if you use the ksg ull want range so it depends more on the shotgun in use cuz if u use one with terrible damage but high range youd want damgage but the ksg which has the highest damage but terrible range youd want the range profiency

[M3rkEntertainment]

I get one hit kills from that range with a KSG Extended Mags with Damage :P

[Daan3226]

Lol your weapons are both in LV 1 and they are gold ;)

[M3rkEntertainment]

@Daan3226 cuz its a private matc

[TheMryi]

dont think that surprised anyone

[McTurtle32]

usas with range rapes striker whores

[BrokenArcade]

I perfer a KSG-12 with damage :D Wrecks shit.

[HitmarkerMachine]

You know, I never thought that the RANGE proficiency would be better at long range. Never would have thought of that logic!

[xxawesomenessxx77]

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[ProffessorShaft]

How did u get Optimius Prime to introduce ur video!!??

[CurlyHeadedFark]

OR I can go play MW2 and use the sniper rifle in it know as the spas 12

[matson95]

n1: If you use Grip on the Spas-12 that kinda makes up for the Range, but u cant replace a 40% dmg.

n2: @I2awInstinct If you hipfire your shots will do more dmg than if you scope in, cuz the bullets dont spread as mutch with hipfire as it usually would when you scope.

Just a tip. After I found out that i replaced my Stalker perk with Steady Aim, to spread my bullets even less. I never had a single hitmark again! :)

[ferno942]

hey u know what would be good witch pistol not machine pistol is good

because im trying to do some of the barrack challenges for the pistols but dont know what one to use plz help

[youngfly44]

I love my KSG-12 with range because I always piss off Striker noobs.

[GAViNJhonsonchannel]

you would be a good player if you didnt play pussy core

[tupuduku100]

tips

1) Take extended mag AND range because extended mag make the same thing than damage(it is true, try it) so you shoot far and do many damage

2) take overkill: spas with range and ksg with damage

if it help like my comment :)

[BerlinerBaerenCrew]

@tupuduku100 The extended mags glitch is patched or do you mean something else?

[MrThatguyinpants]

usas v spas

[kawaski24]

i agree but what pisses me off is that fucking 4 shit markes with the spaz from short range FUCKEN HELL

[marcutio311]

also I tested the usas just as a test and at short rnge with dmg it was one shot obviously and at med and med lng range it was two shots, but with rnge on the usas it was only one shot kill for med and med long range. the only real diff for dmg is like the usas takes 3/9 to kill at close rnge. and with range on it it takes 4/9 to kill. but i mean come on who cant get 4 measly pellets into someone at close range? So yeah clear winner is range. dmg is only gonna help if u got baddddd aim.

[marcutio311]

also range is better for most shottys now after the patch except striker is more even either or and model 1887 go with dmg, cause it doesnt really have dmg drop off like other shottys. heres a great link to show the stats. youtube.com/watch?v=7MywBEbjM8­s

[marcutio311]

since the patch the usas is top of the charts now with ksg in close second check it out guys.

[UHasPoobrain]

So your saying damage is good at close range and that range is good at...a RANGE? Hmm. Still, I prefer range over damage because a shotgun is made to be good at short range and sometimes I'll go around a corner and I just won't be close enough for damage to do the job :P

[TheMrlowe98]

i highly doubt anyone will even attempt a long range shot from a shotgun in mw3, because it is nearly impossible. Anything that makes it a for sure one shot kill at close to medium range is a lot better than 2 shots at long range, in which an assault rifle or smg would easily mow you down. Damage.

[bassman9611]

PS3 vs XboX360 ? ( vs PC )

^_^

[Torskification]

You actually get better accuracy hip-firing a shotgun at any range, try it out on a wall if you don't believe me.

[Snitze123]

i think u should know this but hipfiring with steady aim is alot more lethal then ADS on mw3 shotgun

[omgdaggah]

Using range makes shotguns more efficient at long ranges? Who would of thought that?!

[imthechosentaco]

remember its call of duty

[wertykeyboard]

@omgdaggah u r hatin on his taters while dating and masterbatin

[megamoop]

With 10,000+ kills with both range and damage with the SPAS I can gladly say that RANGE is better.

[onesecondKO]

I wuld rather use damage bcuz the range is high and u already r close enought to kill em.

[MikeHunt627]

But the guy was standing still I highly doubt that in multiplayer that's going to happen

[rustam19977]

@MikeHunt627 Just lead the target :)

[SSYCOXJO3LX]

aiming down sights decreases damage so i recomend hipfiring with steady aim with shotguns

[SoDreamsss]

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[roflpwned]

damage is better, it is impossible to connect every single pellet, therefore, range is useless even at long range, however, with damage, you have a better chance of killing him because those few pellets that do connect will have more damage

[left4spy]

i went YEA CUZ YOU SHOULD REALLY USE A SHOTGUN AT LONG RANGE........da fuq

[TheSemtexBoy]

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[DemondHarris]

You should compare with all shotguns, because they are very different, USAS 12 for example benefits more from the Damage proficiency

[I2awInstinct]

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[JarinzWonders]

haha no duh range is better for long range -__- good vid tho.

[eddiep127]

2:28 isnt that the spas 12 from black ops?

[MasterFProductions]

@eddiep127 its just a pic dude

[eddiep127]

@MasterFProductions yea ur rite

[drkillstreak1]

@eddiep127 yeh

[dylan00285]

@eddiep127 yea, but all spas 12 have a stock, the Black Ops version has the folded stock while MW2/MW3 version have the unfolded stock

[FearlessGamingTV]

When I watch your videos I feel like I'm watching the deadliest warrior, only the MW3 edition.

[ryuzaki9x]

Most of the time if u cannot kill the enemy in 1 shot using spas-12, he'll get chance to kill you before u even get to the second shot. I'll go for damage.

[MrScyphor]

the test was a good and sort of fair but misleading because during real online matches you have yo realise that people run and that sometimes they run towards you so hiting them from a far distance is fine but consistantly hitting them with high damage has a greater affect

[TheXfuzionzX]

Range is better!!!!!!!!

[TL1406]

I watched this video to be told that the range proficiency is best for shots from a longer range....NO SHIT !

[hybridspartan44]

@TL1406 i know how u feel buddy

[nickprs7]

From what ive experienced, range is overall better damage doesnt help all that much as i still get alot of hitmarkers, range makes them overall more consistent, especially aa12 with range and extended mags omg its awesome

[MrMitchyCanuck]

so you came to the conclusion it is what it says it is.

[hybridspartan44]

@MrMitchyCanuck pretty much

[Video147258369]

There is also the fact that the spread doubles while aiming down the sights of a shotgun, compared to hip firing. If you use steady-aim it will be a better shotgun class all around.

[lols61ful]

try whitout aiming! its better!

[Maahmuut66]

nice vids, subscribed!

[bensCRF]

erm nice vid but u kind of just made it far more complex then it needs to be. its quite obvious really: damage will be more effective in short range and range will be more effective at onger distance :P

[dakookieMoNsTa5]

how bout thermal sight vs. acog sight?

[TranceEnergy00]

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[b4listic206]

so would it be good to use range with extended mags on the striker?

[Foretoldfate489]

Alright guys. Gold Title'd Spas-12 here. 1) Go with damage, use the specialist perk and you'll get the Range attachment then drop those suckers down. 2) You'll most likely find enemies within close range, if not take cover, kill a few seconds and by then they should be a bit closer (In this situation portable radar can help or you can stun them)

[SnakesScareMe]

@Foretoldfate489 thanks for the tip man!

[Foretoldfate489]

Some unmentioned SPAS useful tips: If they're within medium range try to fire from the hip, and aim if they're within close. Sometimes nonsense happens, even with damage or range+ext. mags, be prepared to strike back! If you don't make the first kill shot strife to the sides bringing a brief confusion to the enemies and shoot asap (If you're quick enough go for the head, if outnumbered try to line their bodies up and get collateral damage) Also never hold on to the aim sights..

[hupholland5]

3+1 = 4 and 2+2 = 4 so its kinda 50/50

[JeffJordProductions]

IM WATCHING ANOTHER RAW INSTINCT COMMENTARY O_o

[WestsideEmoClick]

@JeffJordProductions Lol

[MrSemiwolf]

Good videos

[LeGiTxGABExRoCkz]

Why is that every video gotta have have a dislike even thoe it shouldnt have one ?!!

Fucking assholes !

[FuzzyRh]

woooohoooo! im sexy!!!!

[Wrap19]

@FuzzyRh No u not ;D

[WWERunningWild]

he said range is better for long range? wtf? what do you think it was good for?



[yno14jax]

It's more of personal preference. If I'm using a shotgun I will use range on a big map, but damage on a small one

[CodFTW23]

This is probably the best explanation i can give on shotguns. range is better with the semi autos [USAS and Striker] and damage is better with your pump actions [KSG and Spas 12 and Model 1887].

[440gamers]

So I should make one with range and damage ?

[shplab]

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[gotemskating]

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[crazycheese98]

whose the player in the video?

[TheMrjp10]

so there names are pretty self explainatory

[Oxli22]

Great !!!!!!

[baldtwinky]

With aa12 you need range because with damage it takes the same shots to kill cause the damage is so low

[WwalshH]

Spas w/ damage

don't need range when you use

MP9 w/ silencer as secondary <-- that = your range.

use

-Sleight of Hand (or Extreme Conditioning)

-Assassin

-Dead Silence

[123sniperzz]

Shotguns with or without Steady Aim

[Regalya]

Damage > Range unless you have not unlock damage prof yet.

[RiTiReAlLyFlY]

mp5 vs scar l?



[sjadude3]

I feel like everyone is becoming gay on youtube, always calling me sexy in their vids

[Shizzlecrads]

If you use specialist it doesn't matter. ;)

[xTriiiCkYz]

@Shizzlecrads yes it does. if your using range originally you won't unlock damage. but not vice versa. so with specialist you should go with damage.

[Chrome118]

''You're watching another Raw Instinct commentary... brought to you by Optimus Prime!''

but seriously keep up the vids man they're really useful :)

[MrKellking89]

guy at :58 gets up so quick.. he sees his friend go down and was like oh shit!

[XxxOLAFxxX]

trust me, if you want to use a shotgun, go for the USAS12 it does'nt seem like much but it is the best shotgun in the game. just try it you will love it

[shirtless15]

USE WHICH EVER YOU FEEL IS BETTER FOR FOOK SAKE

[UltimateSuperjerk]

@shirtless15 you can always come here for advise, no?

[Bandofbroths]

how about on subs while u use silencer

[jbsuks135]

this was a question that I have been thinking about on shotguns for a while, thanks man your the best

[ThatOneCommentator]

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[TheSuperman1014]

use the grip with damage and use steady aim and fire from the hip and is mercs people

[OpticNJswimmer]

Extended mags increases the amount of pellets in a shell from 8 to 12 in a spas. Check woodysgamertag he has a video about it. So that can almost be used like damage, so use range and extended mags.

[nehabje]

@OpticNJswimmer there was allready goin a patch about that.

[Bisto17]

@OpticNJswimmer patched 3 weeks ago

[MrAUG9]

@I2awInstinct missing a very important point here. steady aim increases your hip fire but also when you are using a shotgun it decreases the pellet spread and caused a whole new category and you should try this again.

[MrTheLadiesGuy]

i wasnt subscribed but then he said whats up my sexi subscribers and i felt bad so iam subed!!!!!!

[LiaEA]

/watch?v=xFiCa4G960s&feature=g­­­-u-u&context=G220d112FUAAAAA­A­A­AAA

This video does a better job explaining what damage does.

Good stuff starts at 1:23

Thumbs up if you like it ;)

[cincosauce]

yay he called us sexy :)

[N1c3GuysGaming]

I2aw what do u use to make and edit ur videos

[NPNJoe]

what about the specialist perks thing. apparently you can get all proficiencies with it when you get all perks bar one. is this true and which proficiency do you not get?

[ragnellsaria]

@NPNJoe you get all the proficiencies

[slimshadyfan2529]

You really should have compared the UMP vs the MP7.

[UltimateHobo77]

@slimshadyfan2529 UMP sucks

[InstaNoodlez]

@UltimateHobo77 does not, but mp7 is still better

[slimshadyfan2529]

@UltimateHobo77 idk braski. I was well comfortable with it, then everytime i unlock the MP7 its garbage. I use rapid fire tho which i did not unlock for the mp7. so i shall do that haha

[bitcheslovetugboats]

Wow Range is better for long range....??? glad ur told us, we'd never figure it out :L ill stick with damage haha

[pivotguy196]

in other words, range gets you less hitmarkers from long range, damage gets you less hitmarkers in general.

[niceguysfly]

The dislike bar has VERY short range

[hippykillermuthrfckr]

are you guys a pro gamer?

[MegaBattlefield123]

strike + damage = epicness!!

[boykiller303]

@MegaBattlefield123 ur a fag

[almostaddictive]

range increases the range by 25% incase annyone is still wondering

[MrBeastatcod123]

damage is better range sucks

[extremekiwi28]

@MrBeastatcod123 not for the striker but for all the others yes

[ORiGiNFusiOn]

im a sexy subscriber

[I2awInstinct]

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[crazycheese98]

@I2awInstinct been subscribed for a while..... bitch

[ObeysCats]

Well you have to put into effect people are going to be moving and people with shotguns aren"t going to just stand there and shoot they are going to try to get up close and kill.

[ipownsomenoobs]

and ADS<hip fire with steady aim

[fgyidjkbhdg]

and you cant aim that perfect in a real match to get perfect accuracy

[fgyidjkbhdg]

seems like everyone keeps forgeting to talk about the bullet spread since it different between each shot, sometimes it can take 4 shots and sometimes 1 shot, and the damage makes it 1 shot more often while range just increase the effective range and nothing more. damage is a clear winner and shotgun user knows that

[almostaddictive]

@fgyidjkbhdg im a shotgun user and i disagree , i feel that the increased one shot kill range i get from damage isnt much farther than without damage , where as range even if i dont get a one shot kill , im more confident in me getting the kill because my SHORT RANGE weapon has a higher effective distance , which is better than a increased one shot kill range if u ask me . and one shot kills dont mean annything outside of pump/leaver action shotguns , where range wins again as i experienced

[MegaProRacer]

@almostaddictive sometimes with shotguns u dont even get one shot kills if the enemy is like 2 cms away, so u eed damage to get one shot kills,

[almostaddictive]

@MegaProRacer they just buffed the shotguns , so i suggest u go and try that theory again

[MegaProRacer]

@almostaddictive it still happens but rarely now

[pivotguy196]

@fgyidjkbhdg so basically, use damage normally and use range when completing the silencer challenge.P.S. got my spas to level 30 and going through the grind to get gold because I have massive respect when I get killed and I see in the killcam a gold spas, ksg, usas, or model. I have no respect for the people who just have the striker gold, striker is easymode.

[PaZ1369]

@fgyidjkbhdg i like range better lol

[Grea7er]

@fgyidjkbhdg sick yt name

[ThatCurlyGuy95]

@fgyidjkbhdg i agree, although it varies between map, playstyle and shotgun, but generally i prefer damage.

[narutoguy304]

@fgyidjkbhdg I think if the range is lower then damage, it needs Range. If the damage is lower and it has plenty of range, i put on Damage..

[THEBURDE]

@fgyidjkbhdg shotgun users and non-striker users.

[NOXsaiv]

@fgyidjkbhdg not for the AA-12

the damage is so high in the AA-12 so i dont need to put damage on it, range is the best for it, all other shotguns are better on damage because of the good range on them.

[SirDevZz]

damage increases the weapons effectivness at range, so makes it better at long distance. it doesn't make the bullets go further

[sammydems]

@SirDevZz *Farther. Also, Range increases it's effectiveness at range, Damage just increases pellet power. It has the same percent of power drop-off with the Damage proficiency as it does without it.

[Th3CanadianGamer]

Comment.

[lukaiscoolify]

damage with striker is beast i love it and its mostly 1 shot(s) kill

[wunderwaffle51]

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[olivemaniac777]

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[obama8mychiken3]

Violets are grey , roses are grey everythings grey because im color blind

[experssion123]

GRRRRR ads reduces spread. hipfire increase spread so more damage. why does no one understand this

[campersRgay]

@experssion123 are you fucking retarded if it spreads, less bullets hit, meaning less damage if you aim down the sight it concentrates the bullets with less spread so theres gonna be more bullets hitting the enemy witch means more damage, DEERRRR