I can understand that guy, and also, Amy's reaction is understandable. 911 was an inside job? OF COURSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But Amy can't say that to her audience, because as she said before, there is NO real democracy in America today.
Whether or not the Bush administration planned and executed 9/11 is immaterial. The reason that it is immaterial is this reason: Even without such a conspiracy it's guilty of numerous criminal acts for which its members should answer.
Of course, given the structure of American jurisprudence ($ talks; everyone else gofuckyourselves), and the hourly ass-licking American politicians give to their corporate overlords, it's doubtful justice will ever be done.
we are step by step, word by word, paragraph by paragrah, analysing and refutting the Final NIST report on building 7 , it cracks my stomach up with laughter that thermal expansion was the the reason the buildings collapsed symetrically! how retarded the american people are. We have developed our own digital model replications of the NIST simulations, the only difference we are giving it the outer skin . IT looks nothing like the actual video footage. facts don't lie
This video is clear evidence how desperate the 9/11 movement is for a credible voice to back them up. They saw in Amy Goodman someone who fights the good fight and as their last resort for credibility. Especially after Chomsky effectively scoffed at the idea of an inside job. Because who do they have left? A bunch of disenfranchised former academics (Steve Jones, Kevin Barrett, James Fetzer, et al), and the occasional celebrity nut job du jour (read: Charlie Sheen). Sorry truthers, you lose.
viletree Do you believe everthing you are told without prior investigation.?Building # 7 came down like a controlled demolition with just minor fires.This was all but ignored by the controlled mass media.Interestingly Amy Goodman saw this with her own eyes and never mentions it.Incidently you must be a patriot god bless America?
@jazzmanbop What do you mean she didnt mention it, are you that daft shes mentioned it in quite a few interviews. By the way, if one anomaly is the strongest case for 911 twoof, besides dozens of unsubstantiated claims such as the nano thermite bullshit and my favorite the Silverstein pull it, then they have virtually no chance of getting anything done. It fell like any building does, and until there is evidence for thermite, all they have is hollow banter.
Amy Goodman,Maud Barlow,Noan Chomsky,etc. certainly are left getekeepers and schills.The real power wrests with the global bankers who start and stop all wars,cause depressions etc.This is the key to turning things around ,is to have public creation of money.
@jazzmanbop Don't be jealous because the intellect in Chomsky's left sack crushes then entire 911 "truth" movement alone. These people are worth far more than the lives of you 911 "patriots", how about you utilize the scientific method in your so called "work". You're pieces of shit and are working counter clockwise to the movement you believe yourselves to represent.
The guy is just a parrot. His challenge turns into an attack; he disregards his own question by demanding the desired answer. Chanting played-out slogans only makes this person a blemish on the face of the 9/11 Truth movement. I support their endeavors as far as searching for truth goes, but I can't stand behind some more-radical-than-thou asshole with a bullhorn. If he wants a shouting match he should go on the O'Reilly Factor.
Herd mentality. Shut him up, I have a lot invested in this ride. My class representatives are right and I'll kill you for questioning their authority over me.
The fact that the truthers continue to harass a real truth seeker like Goodman instead of going afterm the corporate/establishment media shows just how insane and idiotic they are.
911 blah blah blah. That guy was probably a secret Mossad false flag operation sent too re-kill JFK and Jesus. OOOGAAAH BOOOOGAAAAH 9/11 9/11 9/11. I think the 9/11 tr00th movement is really just a cover up for the Loch Ness monster and Big Foot who really did 9/11 with Dick Cheney who is actually a robot from the moon.
9/11 trooth, helping keep our nations mental institutions open and busy since 9/12/01.
Thanks to Amy Goodman for keeping her cool and trying to stay on point despite the idiot
Noone is ever 'silenced' - if they have a pair of balls. Anyone could cause major disruption and be the architect of massive social disruption with very little aside from a voice.
WTC building # 7 has repeatable data that scientists can reproduce to expose the facts. It went down in a controlled fashion. If someone pay enough to the Zionists, they are willing to tell us how those explosives were used.
thing i dun get bout 9/11 truthers is, 9/11 was bad and all, but how come that and what happened after is all they care aobut? there was another 9/11 in south america which killed even more people in the 70's. what about that?
i dun understand why 9/11 truthers only seem to focus on bush and cry over american lives. are muslims and latinos not people too? i think their lives are just as important as american lives
They don't care about anything really, they just hate the Jews with a passion and want to move focus from actual real issues to their cabal of nutjobbery. It is not about saving peoples lives or remembering those who died it is just about themselves and their craziness. Heck most of them (like their close cousins the White Power movement) are fighting amongst themselves and have claimed their video Loose Coins (or whatever they call it) is wrong.
she is offering a solution. she is encouraging journalists with courage to report responsibly so that our reality is less skewed by mass media outlets who are owned the politicians' buddies. she covers stories and raises political dialogue that you will never hear on Fox, NBC, etc... she raises topics to the foreground that sycophant journalists never will. Amy Goodman understands her role as a journalist and she cites the importance of the freedom of press in the bill of rights.
but her solution is not extreme nutjobbery and whacko theories that usually contain Jews being the cause of 9/11 or something crazy like that. Amy Goodman is reporting stuff most others won't in a much better way then most other people. She is intelligent and well spoken. She doesn't need to resort to any nutzoid conspiracies to get her point across.
I have a feeling that guy probably didn't like the fact a free independent woman was speaking and used his nutty ideas to cover that up.
It seems Amy is there as a net for the thinkers. She does lots of truth but she is a lot like Noam Chomsky---desperately depressing and without any solutions.
She keeps a lid on the truth. I think Alex Jones serves a similar role---a big net for those who want the truth. You can go a long way, but then you will be stopped.. There's a cap on it. And interesting how the audience hated the man with the bullhorn. Rockefeller foundation funds Amy's show. nuff said.
If Amy Goodman were to spend every hour of every day investigating and reporting on 911 they would have missed a good amount of news. If you want the truth to get out, get it the fuck out yourself you lazy fucking scumbags.
Conspiracy theorist? If you believe what the media says, I'd call that a conspiracy theory. Watch 9/11 Mysteries, do the research. If it's truth you want you're not going to get it on Faux News.
did the guy have a question? From where i sit it sounds like he was making a demand more so than asking a question. She allowed him to stay in the auditorium.
same thing happened a few months ago in l.a. peter thottam asked amy about why she doesn't cover 9/11 more. she answered it unspecifically, but it looked like she was following her notes and was on a deadline. She was there to give a speech. I'm sure he talked to her afterward and I understand his passion. she had c.mckinney on and of course mckinney, a former congress woman believes it was an inside job.Many others are requesting another REAL investigation.
He was probably afraid of Amy Goodman, a free and well spoken woman. He wanted to be the big man and flapping his lips for whatever garbage he was trying to promote. Amy was keeping her cool and continuing with her speech as best as possible. He wanted to be rude and have the biggest voice (like a fair # of men) and Amy just kept going like anyone should do in the face of a troll.
Amy is awesome and I hope that people like Whackjob, the 9/11 tr00th clown stop being so rude to her.
just take action and arrest everyone in the government if a million people march to the white house and put them in citizens arrest then justice would be served.
What if that guy was at the podium speaking about 9/11 truth and Amy Goodman interrupted him in the middle of it and started ranting and forcing her into an answer. That's not first amendment rights, thats just being an asshole. If anything he hurt the truth movement and swayed people that were there away from it.
He got to say what he wanted. She asked that he stay. He repeated the same thing over and over again and he also was not acting in a way conductive for debate.
When did his first amendment rights get trampled on...was it when HE interrupted Amy's speech or was it when HE wouldn't let Amy respond or was it when AMY allowed him too stay. Sorry but like 99% of the Tr00th movement he was an obnoxious little shit (too quote DrengenfraVA)
He got too say his piece (in the middle of someone else's speech) and he should have shut up at that point because he was infringing on Amy's right to speak and was extremely rude and silly.
ahh, the reactionary young man so strident in "his" beliefs! so maybe he's right? great, we're all going to be saved by you? no, it doesn't work that way. "telling" people to believe in something never works, they go the other way out of instinct. he would have been more effective if he simply approached people and TALKED to them like, um, humans do. so much anger, and so for nothing. i think a lot of those guys are rightly frustrated because they are not allowed to be men anymore. but come on
The video that alleges that Noam Chomsky is some kind of illuminati plant is better. Fuckin' Noam Chomsky. Truthers are the worst fucking leftists ever.
"Finally, according to a letter posted on the Educate Yourself website, Eban Ray of KPFK radio in Los Angeles inadvertently revealed that the Rockefeller Foundation funds Democracy Now. It is common knowledge that David Rockefeller, a consummate and proudly declared globalist, attended the inaugural Bilderberg meeting in 1954 and has occupied a prominent place on the steering committee ever since."
"Amy Goodman appears to have no overt connection to the Bilderbergers, but it is difficult to believe she is unaware of the group. Her Democracy Now program receives funding from Pacifica, the Ford Foundation, and the Lannan Foundation. The Ford Foundation directly funds the Bilderbergers, taking up where the CIA left off (see Bilderberg entry at SourceWatch). As James Petras notes, the CIA has a history of using the Ford Foundation to fund "cultural fronts" like Democracy Now."
That man is fucking obnoxious. "OH MY GOD YOU DONT AGREE WITH ME YOURE NOT BETTER THAN THE CORPORATE MEDIA". That is a fucking insult, and Im surprised Amy handled it as well as she did, it just goes to show how much more mature she is than that ignorant little twat. What we need is a REAL 9/11 truth movement. None of this "the government did it by default" ideology. 9/11 Inside Jobbers, as I like to call them, discredited any truth movements at present or in the future whatsoever.
if one for peace, then why are some against order (the new world order). Fact: the planet is overpopulated and has limited resources (not in diamonds or silicon) for clean water, air, fuel. Want a cleaner world, eliminate 75% of the world population.
This guy didn't hurt anyone, people just got upset because he broke the hypnotic spell that is put on people to make them not even think about things like 9/11 truth.
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I hate the fucking 911 "Truth" people and this is EXACTLY the reason why. I would NOT have let this guy intimidate me like he bullied those trying to throw him the fuck out. Cheap thug.
As for this video, Truthers need to look at this guy for good minute. Ask yourself if this is really what you want representing your side or just being the first face they associate with 9/11 Truth. Getting on a Bullhorn and taking over shows, lectures and even regular glasses has hurt you guys and it makes you look like nuts to Americans who have no idea what 9/11 Truth is to begin with. Shit like this is bad marketing of ideas and it turns more people against you.
You a Truther has no life when he spends all his time marking thumbs down for all the posts that reject the 9/11 Truth movement. He doesn;t know what he's talking about when he claims that every war since WWI was a false flag, as WWII clearly wasn't and Korea, The '67 Israeli War, and numerous others.
and why do you suppose Japan invaded Pearl Harbor? because they hated our freedom? think about what we did to antagonize them. i'm not at all saying we deserved the attack, but i think people instigated it, knew about it, and let it happen-launching us into WWII. you are naive to think that our govt. is as honest as the fifth grade history books tells it, or hollywood movies. i guess ignorance truly is bliss.
It seems like every Truther comes up with this bullshit argument and tries to say that we're in the dark in need of their enlightenment. The Jap Empire did not hate us for our freedom and you're an idiot for trying to peg me as "Bush Sheeple". They wanted us to resolve the political fight over control and influence over the Far East under their terms and by their display of force. The US had possession of the Philippines and the UK had numerous claims in Indo-China as well as Hong Kong.
The Japs were on a campaign of expansion, during which time the Rape of Nanking took place. This was over a decade long lead up ever since the invasion of Manchuria. They also invaded French Indo-China in 1940. The problem with all that is the US attitude of the Japanese. We didn't view them as very smart or able to see what they were shooting at. That was the racist view of most Americans, including those in military and civilian offices. The US also had a very inflated view of its strength.
The Japanese military also had a racist view of America as it was viewed as mutt society that was impure and that it would easily back down when shown the power of the Japanese Forces. And to be honest, they had good reason to feel that way as the US military wasn't up to par and the strong isolationist temperament of America had existed for quite some time. You also forget that this was an era when most people thought the oceans were enough of a defense against any kind of threat.
As far as letting it happen, that's just stupid truther bullshit. Yes, the US Naval intelligence did pick up some codes prior to the attack, but that amongst thousands of codes they picked up. Intelligence wasn't what it is today, which isn't saying much. In addition, none of the intercepts ever gave a time and or place of attack. The information passed on did not detail any concrete evidence that Pearl Harbor was to be the target. They stated the high threat Japs posed and possible war.
There was no reason to say that the Japanese Navy was going to strike Pearl harbor first either. NOTHING WAS EXPLICITLY STATED OR HINTED AT. There were a number of targets available including the Philippines and Midway. This wasn't like the Zimmerman telegram from WWI with specific information. Also, "letting it happen" did not ensure that the Us would even be involved in the war in Europe to fight Germany. In fact, it was Hitler, for no reason at all, who declared war on the US.
There was hinted information in regards to possible strikes, but nothing close to what was intercepted before Midway .There were thousands of intercepts that had been received by the Navy and Army. The problem is that these branches didn't really share information as they would today. Plus the collection of information and passing it on to Washington was nowhere close to what it is today. And that's really bad. Their main focus was on the Asian front with an eye on Pearl Harbor, idiot.
The "let it happen" argument also ignores the fact that if this theory was true, then the US started the war off under the worst of circumstances. Their Naval fleet was hit hard and their carriers were too few and not yet proven as viable weapons. The Us started with one foot in the bucket. If the goal was to aid the UK, then this wasn't the best means of going about it, as the British fleet was too stretched to really defend its interests around the world or at home in the Atlantic.
It's important to refute truther bullshit as its myth spliced together with sprinkled truths to make their bullshit ideas seem more viable for human consumption. Optical, you don't know jack shit about this topic or how a military operation works or the logistics of these "covert operations". If you're going to try and act smarter than everyone else, you should probably actually know something about what you're talking about first.
big fuckin deal ishmaiden. i can wickepedia something too and copy and paste. you probablly spent all night researching the mutha fucka. id love to hear your superior knowledge on the US invasion of Iran in the years to come. i'll bet you think they have WMDs as well. . i wasnt trying to act smarter than everyone else, only you douchenozzle.
Copy paste? Wikipedia is no more a source for reliable then information dispersed over Youtube. I have my own collection of WWII material as that it is my main subject. And yes, you were on a soapbox or else you wouldn't try to play the "I know big buildings more than you" card. You think you're the first Truther to come up with the same bBS argument? Youtube is littered with them and it never fails as I see post after post referring to the rest of us that are in "blissful ignorance".
Mutha fucka? Are we trying to act "really hood" or just faking ghetto slang? I never believed the Iraq WMD/ terror ties story. I only supported forced inspections, as Iraq thumbed refused to do so since the Clinton years, violating the terms ending the '91 Gulf War. I don't think losers should dictate terms. I still think that was a good case, but not for setting up bases and occupation. I favored actions like Israel's attack on Iraq's nuclear facility. I don't care about nation building.
We won't invade Iran as there is no will for it here or in the World. I do think we should keep an eye on them as they are not exactly kind and cuddly when it comes to Israel. The fact is US prestige is tainted and Bushes Idiocy has destroyed any credibility this country has for at least the next 10 years. Plus the military is broken, resorting to extended tours and PMC's. It'll take years to fix this and another invasion won't help matters, and may ruin us even further.
"you were on a soapbox or else you wouldn't try to play the "I know big buildings more than you" card" - what is that supposed to mean? i meant i work in big buildings every day, and lots of floors are always under construction as new companies move out and others move in, giving an opportunity to possibly plant thermite.
FYI i am a general for a union construction company with 44 employees. i also served in the US Army for 5 years. but i guess im an idiot and knows nothing.
Just curious, but do you just blindly give thumbs down to every post for your dissenting views? Is that the life of a Truther? Do you guys operate form the same training manual or something, because that's' all you guys seem to do? Plus, do you know how many Truthers post here as they claim to be construction experts, engineers, physicists, or other kind of expert? The number's too big to count and I doubt that the US has ever graduated that many in its entire history.
By the by, I could give rats ass about your 5yrs in the army. My father and uncle served in the Army too, with my dad serving 5 tours in Vietnam and amassing 23 yrs experience. He trained troops in Europe, Central America, and South East Asia on rigging targets with explosives. My Uncle retired from the Army Corps of Engineers, so do yourself a favor and try not to play that "experience" card as it doesn't impress. That's if it's not complete bullshit to begin with.
why is everything a playing card of some sort. damn dude, your such a dick. im grateful for your father for serving in Vietnam though. my father went to Vietnam as well. i was simply stating my experience which is not bullshit, i was stationed in Garrison Bamberg Germany for 3 years. what have you done for your country?
Ok, try not to repeat the same truther bullshit that all the rest our posting. Every time I challenge them on their paranoid crap, they try to throw the NWO term at us. They use quotes from world leaders about an impending NWO like its some sinister plot to take over the world. In fact, the term has been used for a century and it refers to the balance of power and spheres of influence, usually after greet events like both WW's, post colonial Africa and Asia, and the Soviet breakup.
so you don't believe there is a such thing as NWO? did i hear you right?!? did you look into infowars(dot)com yet?
just youtube alex jones-a true libertarian- unlike yourself. you should call yourself a neo-con instead. i mean, do you even realize our freedoms and civil liberties are being taken away from us everyday? doesn't that bother you? a true libertarian would fight that shit. we are freedom fighters, thats was we are. and for the record, you don't challenge me at all, just annoy.
I swear it's like clockwork with Truthers. You don't see thing their way and all of the sudden you're a neo-con. Do they ask you to repeat this charge over and over again in the 9/11 Truth orientations? Nelson Mandela was a freedom fighter. Zapata and Poncho Villa were freedom fighters. You guys are paranoid nuts with the ability to use a keyboard and surf the net. You calling me a Neo-Con is as laughable as the right wingers I get charging me with being a Liberal faker.
You should check what the far right says about the same NWO. The paranoia is the same, except that it's based upon the notion that there's a NWO dedicated to ushering the anti-Christ in as the supreme dictator of the world. They use the same articles and clips of people using the term NWO, yet they don't put the term into proper context. I don't believe their shit either as their media is as unreliable as infowars or prisonplanet. The Star and National Enquirer are more credible.
I've meet and talked to Neo-Cons and I can tell you that you don't know what you're talking about when you try to use the term. Fact is I think the Neo-Cons have too much say in the political dialogue and I resent their closeness to the Religious Right. You might want to try again before using that term again as its not applicable here. It's just a knee jerk rant by a person who doesn't know what he's talking about. At least you didn't say shill like the other Truthers.
In regards to the freedoms issue: I'd say that it's these tantrums by 9/11 Truthers that make it hard for the rest of us to voice our concerns about these issues without being lumped into the nut category. I have real substantive concerns about the direction this country is taking, but it gets drowned out by the guys with 9/11 shirts and bullhorns screaming that we're all sheeple. People can't listen to the rest of us without thinking if we're Truthers too. You hurt dissent and don't help it.
paranoia is a sense of awareness. i'm sorry you feel like we should police the world. someday you might understand because i think your somewhat intelligent, however, blissfully close minded. In the whole debate here you haven't stated anything of value, only cheap shots to my opinions...this card and that card, and how were all the same, without making any valid original points of your own.
what do you stand for anyway? you said you are a Libertarian? why?
No, a heightened sensitivity is a sense of awareness. Paranoia is the irrational sense of things that are out to get you. You still don't know what a neo-Con is, so how the hell can you know what the NWO is. In addition, you should be sorry, as I never ever said that I felt we should be "Policing the world" in any of my posts. In fact, I don't think we should be engaged in that kind of foreign policy and I don't subscribe to preemption as a tactic. I'm actually for the removal of BUSH.
You want to know what I stand for. I'm just an anti-bullshit person when it comes to politics. I just want Republican form of govt. as I don't believe in mob rule. I want the Liberals out of my wallet when it come to taxes and spending. I want the Neo-Cons and religious Right out of my bedroom and out of the military. That includes Abortion, to which I'm personally opposed, but don't think the govt. has a right to meddle with under any circumstance. This also includes gay marriage.
You want to go even further than that? I don't like the current search and seizure laws and the nation's current drug policy. Far too many people get thrown in jail for a blunt and lose their property when they get busted. That also includes double jeopardy tracking of sex offenders. They already did their time, so leave them be. I can't stand imminent domain as it's used by state and local govt., as I've seen many people lose their homes for a shiny new strip malls.
ishmaiden: Exactly right. These are tantrums, and it makes everyone who wants to fight for actual investigations into 9/11 is hobbled by these screaming paranoid UFO abduction moonbats. I wish they would go back to their meetings and leave the rational people alone, or better yet try to focus those energies somewhere constructive instead of disrupting public events and stalking and harassing the very people who are trying to make things better in this country.
The term was dreamed up by right wing pundits and is used only by the people who are susceptible to their propaganda. Using it destroys your credibility
Very well, then I don't have credibility. So you're agreeing with someone who doesn't have credibility. And why? Because credibility or no, it's a simple observation and it's true. There is such a thing as standing up and demanding the truth be told. There's such a thing as principled activism. And what this asshole with the megaphone is doing aint it.
I'm not making any argument. I'm calling this guy an asshole and a fucking lunatic. I hope he reads these comments so he can know what I think of him. And I hope it makes him think twice before bringing that megaphone along in his little Jansport bag hoping to disrupt another book promotion or TV show that has nothing to do with his pet conspiracy theory. And if I ever get a chance to see him doing it in person I'll take that megaphone away and use it to tell him the same thing to his face.
NWO is a real phenomenon, but maybe not in the way most people think. The new world order seems to be in the form of transnational corporations and "neoliberal" NGOs; for example, the International Monetary Fund and The World Trade Organization (formerly the GATT Council). These agents secure more wealth for the rich, leaving the poor even poorer. It's anti-democratic.
Combined with the developing police state in the U.S. (and globally), this NWO is destined to destroy society as we know it.
Military service for one's country has been meaningless for a long time now. There has not been a single defensive war that this country has been involved in for a very long time. Warfare, since at least WWII, (proxy and otherwise) has been for economic/political purposes (terrorism). Vietnam was a terrorist war of aggression as was Nicaragua, Panama, Colombia, Guatemala, Cuba, Grenada, Haiti, Mexico, Korea, Iraq 1, Iraq 2, Afghanistan 1 and Afghanistan 2 (just to name a few).
Leave Amy Goodman alone! She's independent media, you Loose Change freaks! They target anyone who oppose their views! They've targeted Chomsky too! They are leftist fanatics, which I, as a Social-Democrat, am ashamed of.
I hear you, I'm a Libertarian Republican and roll my eyes everytime I hear a far right religious nut who screams that Obama is as terrorist and that Democrats are out to kill all babies via abortion. These people do more harm to there cause then good, as they seem to only really care about getting some form of attention. Truthers should think twice before sending this idiot again, because he just gave Republicans 10 more votes when screams like that.
i think your confused on who you think"loose change freaks" really are. leftist fanatics????? i don't think so. they are mostly Libertarians. Alex Jones is a Libertarian not a Liberal like Michael Moore. Two totally different sides with different views on 911 and the war. You should be ashamed to be a social democrat. if you want socialism move to China. the US was founded on Libertarian ideals.
Social Democracy is Libertarianism, only we don't allow corporations to gang bang the working and middle class. China isn't socialism, but state-capitalism. Faux-Communism. You Libertarians can shove your precious free-market, lassez-faire bullshit up your ass. I hate that "If you don't like it here, go to China" garbage. Most of the best things about the U.S. were inspired by SOCIALISTS.
you get that kind calling in at WBAI all the time, they are just as aggressive as this guy, they don't want to hear any other opinion! if you believe it wasn't a inside job or that the towers fell on their own..you're accused of being a part of the conspiracy. its insane!
She ignores the 911 truth movement because it's the most retarded theory since the flat earth society and if anyone believes it they should really just consider suicide instead of breeding.
Moreover, 911 truthers are comprised of retarded pieces of shit like that heckler guy and this further shows why they should just off themselves. And if it makes them feel any better, we can all say that the govt did it and they didn't really blow their own brains out.
heh, and someone is actually implying that amy goodman has some secret motives for ignoring the 9/11 truth movement? that's just silly, amy goodman is the pwnage :D
They are all crazy. Amy's friend Noam Chomsky was lauded tonight on Cuban Communist Radio. Why does Amy feel a free media silences the masses? She lives in an 'Opressed country'? And she longs for a Socialist counrty...like Cuba? Any reading this...would you want your freedom...in cuba? Amy's mentor and friend Noam thinks it's a neat place.
Stop using the shill excuse. Yoou probably missed put on a ton of folks that act like this. He's not an agent of BUSH, he's just an attention whore. Plus you probably didn't see them acting out on REAL TIME WITH BILL MAHER? It was the same act as threw their feces at him when he slamed the truthers on his New Rules segment. They tried to bring his show to a hault because he didn't buy their bullshit. It's crap like this that make normal Americans turn thier heads in disgust.
first of all, have you ever even been in the Trade Center? i didn't think so. i work in high rises all the time in Chicago and almost every building has multiple floors closed and under construction every day. you can believe what you want and no one will call you an idiot, like you go around saying. 911 was a false flag operation just like every other war was started since WWI. its not my fault that you are oblivious to the real history not told in the books.
Ever worked with explosives ? I didn't think so, as you would have known how much is needed to bring down two 1360+ ft towers. Targets of this size take alot of work to rig and they do not happen with just a few floors closed for work. A substantial amount of the building must be gutted to do this. You also have to make sure these "explosives" can go off after absorbing the planes hitting their exact floor level. It's important to know wtf you're talking about before actign smug.
Go to the Democracy Now website and look up the sept 11 2006 show. This is the episode Amy begins to talk about before being further interrupted. That show features the two guys from Loose Change VS. two guys from popular mechanics magazine. I found this debate to be inconclusive. What do you guys think?
i think you're a fag and although the debate may have been inconclusive, the film was rock solid. why don;t you go watch it before you say something stupid again. Amy Goodman is a corporate media shill
rock solid? I agree the movie is very interesting and deserves some attention, but no second hand information is "rock solid". I mean... they quote Wikipedia sources in that movie for God's sake. That's like no no #1.
Roboplant, your argument is inconclusive. Everyone knows it was an inside job, you homo. I am a commercial pilot who has also worked for the family Law Firm since I can remember. I know a lot about the logistics of what airplane crashes look like (having been through one), and I understand what it takes to win an argument. I watched the movie a couple of times, and even had my father watch it. You should reduce your marijuana consumption, it is clouding your reasoning!
My God! How do you pull off somehting like that? That would take a colloswl effort to pull a stunt like that and have no one in the VAST loop of conspirators say something before or after? My God! How can you believe it?....How?
12 weeks before 911, the towers were shut down over night, certain floors only at a time for asbestos abaitment, over a month, every night. could the asbestos crews planted thermite durring that period?
Becuase DOPE! To do that takes massive amounts of co-ordinated effort, planning, on-the-spot communication (radio-phones), wiring, etc. To blow down a building in a controled explosion is a BIG efort. As an architect I know about this. Plus, NYC has tons of inspectors and various authorities everywhere who'd catch on to this. You are just a silly person living in a silly morbid fantasy in your own mind. I pity you.
An explosive job such this can not be done in one night, a few weeks, or a few months. And it can't be done in a building that's still in use by population of 40,000 people. You have to gut a huge portion of the building for a CD, you idiot. And cd's don't start from the top down, as it would involve more work. Also, thermite is used in grenades and don't work very well in fires. They would go off like firecrackers apon the planes impact, you fool. Think before you put this crap out.
During that film she added no input describing her beliefs because it would've been an uneven debate either way. It was two on two and the bottom line is no one knows what truly truly happened. It is incredibly easy to disbelieve the official story because it contains holes and lies. I love and am absolutely fascinated by conspiracy theories. It is also true that false flag operations are no foreign concept and have been proven to exist. I believe 9/11 was one but that is only one side.
Please allow me to restate what I've said. I believe the administration did not take those 52 intelligence warnings seriously at all. Clearly they did not. To say I believe 9/11 was a false flag is grossly irresponsible of me. I can't decide who I believe carried out 9/11.
Everyone, you need to be more considerate. We need to stop with the "what an idiot" comments. Listen to Amy. She was telling her audience to settle down and to stop touching that guy. It's hypocritical for you guys to slander someone just b/c he/she doesn't believe the same thing as you. Let's show some respect like Amy did.
If that kid had ever looked at DemocracyNow web site, Amy's team gives great all viewpoints coverage. I agree that this is one persons refl;ect of a whole movement trying to hear and understand
"you know it was a conspiracy" enough times, he could be able to brainwash Amy Goodman into believing his point, just like all the brainwashing videos he watched over and over until it made him this angry and uninformed young man we see today. He doesn't seem to care about people dying in New Orleans, or anything else besides 911. I'm sick of all this "what happened to building 7?? huh?? what?? bullshit. Proove something.
Thanks for posting. It's sad to see the left imploding like this. The onus, buddy, is on you, not Amy Goodman. All you have are a bunch of anamolies and no evidence whatsoever anywhere that this was an inside job. If you have the evidence, share it! but otherwise shut up with your 'inside job'. Why don't you spend your time on something worth while, like changing the world for the better?
The problem with 9/11 Truth and the movement is that it lacks unity. Though, I strongly suspect the wackiest theories are purposefully injected by the Reich Wing to make the mainstream movement seem ridiculous to the uninformed. There were no explosives, but there was a government who knew it was coming, and issued a stand-down order. Michael C. Ruppert has it all documented.
Amy "Communist" Goodman, God bless her, but oops, she's an atheist.
richardpernia 4 weeks ago
see it is no wonder as she gets her funding from the Rockefeller Foundation...
daisyroots 3 months ago
<3 Amy
xjtbarnesx 4 months ago
What a roided out douchebag. It's against journalistic principle to make such a vague statement as '911 was an inside job.'
jalderwood 5 months ago
no one, nor nothing is independent - especially that played out, over the hill, ugly bitch beggar
brahmbhattbhavna 9 months ago
amy goodman is a whore
brahmbhattbhavna 9 months ago
I can understand that guy, and also, Amy's reaction is understandable. 911 was an inside job? OF COURSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But Amy can't say that to her audience, because as she said before, there is NO real democracy in America today.
UighurKnight 11 months ago
Truthers are the biggest dummies there are.
dickknows 11 months ago
Whether or not the Bush administration planned and executed 9/11 is immaterial. The reason that it is immaterial is this reason: Even without such a conspiracy it's guilty of numerous criminal acts for which its members should answer.
Of course, given the structure of American jurisprudence ($ talks; everyone else gofuckyourselves), and the hourly ass-licking American politicians give to their corporate overlords, it's doubtful justice will ever be done.
bapyou 1 year ago
we are step by step, word by word, paragraph by paragrah, analysing and refutting the Final NIST report on building 7 , it cracks my stomach up with laughter that thermal expansion was the the reason the buildings collapsed symetrically! how retarded the american people are. We have developed our own digital model replications of the NIST simulations, the only difference we are giving it the outer skin . IT looks nothing like the actual video footage. facts don't lie
chowdhuryarman 1 year ago
This video is clear evidence how desperate the 9/11 movement is for a credible voice to back them up. They saw in Amy Goodman someone who fights the good fight and as their last resort for credibility. Especially after Chomsky effectively scoffed at the idea of an inside job. Because who do they have left? A bunch of disenfranchised former academics (Steve Jones, Kevin Barrett, James Fetzer, et al), and the occasional celebrity nut job du jour (read: Charlie Sheen). Sorry truthers, you lose.
bman342 1 year ago 2
viletree Do you believe everthing you are told without prior investigation.?Building # 7 came down like a controlled demolition with just minor fires.This was all but ignored by the controlled mass media.Interestingly Amy Goodman saw this with her own eyes and never mentions it.Incidently you must be a patriot god bless America?
jazzmanbop 1 year ago
@jazzmanbop What do you mean she didnt mention it, are you that daft shes mentioned it in quite a few interviews. By the way, if one anomaly is the strongest case for 911 twoof, besides dozens of unsubstantiated claims such as the nano thermite bullshit and my favorite the Silverstein pull it, then they have virtually no chance of getting anything done. It fell like any building does, and until there is evidence for thermite, all they have is hollow banter.
viletree 1 year ago
Amy Goodman,Maud Barlow,Noan Chomsky,etc. certainly are left getekeepers and schills.The real power wrests with the global bankers who start and stop all wars,cause depressions etc.This is the key to turning things around ,is to have public creation of money.
jazzmanbop 1 year ago
@jazzmanbop Don't be jealous because the intellect in Chomsky's left sack crushes then entire 911 "truth" movement alone. These people are worth far more than the lives of you 911 "patriots", how about you utilize the scientific method in your so called "work". You're pieces of shit and are working counter clockwise to the movement you believe yourselves to represent.
viletree 1 year ago
hes right.
Seigu007 1 year ago
The guy is just a parrot. His challenge turns into an attack; he disregards his own question by demanding the desired answer. Chanting played-out slogans only makes this person a blemish on the face of the 9/11 Truth movement. I support their endeavors as far as searching for truth goes, but I can't stand behind some more-radical-than-thou asshole with a bullhorn. If he wants a shouting match he should go on the O'Reilly Factor.
makinuptherules 1 year ago 3
@makinuptherules Heres the difference though, youre a pussy.
Seigu007 5 months ago
9/11 truthers are fuckin annoying.
mistermoen 1 year ago 2
@mistermoen Annoying? well that too bad for you isnt it? you fucking moron.
Seigu007 1 year ago
Yes, getting to the truth is always very "annoying," isn't it?
19Truth53 1 year ago
Herd mentality. Shut him up, I have a lot invested in this ride. My class representatives are right and I'll kill you for questioning their authority over me.
Slavestorms 1 year ago
The fact that the truthers continue to harass a real truth seeker like Goodman instead of going afterm the corporate/establishment media shows just how insane and idiotic they are.
zaitesushion 1 year ago
911 blah blah blah. That guy was probably a secret Mossad false flag operation sent too re-kill JFK and Jesus. OOOGAAAH BOOOOGAAAAH 9/11 9/11 9/11. I think the 9/11 tr00th movement is really just a cover up for the Loch Ness monster and Big Foot who really did 9/11 with Dick Cheney who is actually a robot from the moon.
9/11 trooth, helping keep our nations mental institutions open and busy since 9/12/01.
Thanks to Amy Goodman for keeping her cool and trying to stay on point despite the idiot
Anokpoet 2 years ago
Noone is ever 'silenced' - if they have a pair of balls. Anyone could cause major disruption and be the architect of massive social disruption with very little aside from a voice.
daviddoyle1978 2 years ago
WTC building # 7 has repeatable data that scientists can reproduce to expose the facts. It went down in a controlled fashion. If someone pay enough to the Zionists, they are willing to tell us how those explosives were used.
beancube2008 2 years ago
Pardon me for asking, but why are you people bothering Amy Goodman? Nobody watches Democracy Now but the people who already know what's going on.
Try the networks. Why don't I see you people chaining yourselves to the doors at Fox or CNN?
hawanja 2 years ago
thing i dun get bout 9/11 truthers is, 9/11 was bad and all, but how come that and what happened after is all they care aobut? there was another 9/11 in south america which killed even more people in the 70's. what about that?
i dun understand why 9/11 truthers only seem to focus on bush and cry over american lives. are muslims and latinos not people too? i think their lives are just as important as american lives
boing3887 2 years ago
They don't care about anything really, they just hate the Jews with a passion and want to move focus from actual real issues to their cabal of nutjobbery. It is not about saving peoples lives or remembering those who died it is just about themselves and their craziness. Heck most of them (like their close cousins the White Power movement) are fighting amongst themselves and have claimed their video Loose Coins (or whatever they call it) is wrong.
Anokpoet 2 years ago
she is offering a solution. she is encouraging journalists with courage to report responsibly so that our reality is less skewed by mass media outlets who are owned the politicians' buddies. she covers stories and raises political dialogue that you will never hear on Fox, NBC, etc... she raises topics to the foreground that sycophant journalists never will. Amy Goodman understands her role as a journalist and she cites the importance of the freedom of press in the bill of rights.
schapedo 2 years ago
@schapedo
but her solution is not extreme nutjobbery and whacko theories that usually contain Jews being the cause of 9/11 or something crazy like that. Amy Goodman is reporting stuff most others won't in a much better way then most other people. She is intelligent and well spoken. She doesn't need to resort to any nutzoid conspiracies to get her point across.
I have a feeling that guy probably didn't like the fact a free independent woman was speaking and used his nutty ideas to cover that up.
Anokpoet 2 years ago
It seems Amy is there as a net for the thinkers. She does lots of truth but she is a lot like Noam Chomsky---desperately depressing and without any solutions.
She keeps a lid on the truth. I think Alex Jones serves a similar role---a big net for those who want the truth. You can go a long way, but then you will be stopped.. There's a cap on it. And interesting how the audience hated the man with the bullhorn. Rockefeller foundation funds Amy's show. nuff said.
Peace.
quantumsolutions 2 years ago
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If Amy Goodman were to spend every hour of every day investigating and reporting on 911 they would have missed a good amount of news. If you want the truth to get out, get it the fuck out yourself you lazy fucking scumbags.
collectionofmolecule 2 years ago
To the dude in this vid asking bout 9/11....THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!! Wish me & 20 of my friends had been standing beside you with megaphones of our own
Susieshepherd 2 years ago
hahha this guy is awesome 5 stars!
AnthonyTheActivist 3 years ago
I think your the one who needs a boat to find a democratic country.
Snotra 3 years ago
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Another obnoxious conspiracy theorist tries to disrupt a meeting. What else is new?
ConsDemo 3 years ago
Conspiracy theorist? If you believe what the media says, I'd call that a conspiracy theory. Watch 9/11 Mysteries, do the research. If it's truth you want you're not going to get it on Faux News.
madebutante 3 years ago 2
Democracy now??? Pfftt! We are a republic.
Snotra 3 years ago
We are a DEMOCRATIC Republic. So, you're not for democracy? There is a slow boat to China if you'd like to make it.
madebutante 3 years ago
amy should have answered this guy
thedivys 3 years ago
did the guy have a question? From where i sit it sounds like he was making a demand more so than asking a question. She allowed him to stay in the auditorium.
wonkamonkie 3 years ago
She did, she told him where he could find 9/11 coverage.
csw300 3 years ago
same thing happened a few months ago in l.a. peter thottam asked amy about why she doesn't cover 9/11 more. she answered it unspecifically, but it looked like she was following her notes and was on a deadline. She was there to give a speech. I'm sure he talked to her afterward and I understand his passion. she had c.mckinney on and of course mckinney, a former congress woman believes it was an inside job.Many others are requesting another REAL investigation.
madebutante 3 years ago
She tried but he wouldn't shut the fuck up and let her respond.
jwill5587 2 years ago
@jwill5587
He was probably afraid of Amy Goodman, a free and well spoken woman. He wanted to be the big man and flapping his lips for whatever garbage he was trying to promote. Amy was keeping her cool and continuing with her speech as best as possible. He wanted to be rude and have the biggest voice (like a fair # of men) and Amy just kept going like anyone should do in the face of a troll.
Amy is awesome and I hope that people like Whackjob, the 9/11 tr00th clown stop being so rude to her.
Anokpoet 2 years ago
just take action and arrest everyone in the government if a million people march to the white house and put them in citizens arrest then justice would be served.
xg8512 3 years ago 4
Ever notice how truthers embrace the Bush mentality of you're either with us or against us?
What obnoxious little shits.
DrengenfraVA 3 years ago
If she wasn't amy goodman that guy would be tasered and in a jail right now.
cphoover11 3 years ago
Amy should have embraced this gentlemen. She believes 911 was a conspiracy
protecteroffreedom 3 years ago
His first amendment rights got trampled on. Democracy Now is the liberal vesion of corporate media
protecteroffreedom 3 years ago
What if that guy was at the podium speaking about 9/11 truth and Amy Goodman interrupted him in the middle of it and started ranting and forcing her into an answer. That's not first amendment rights, thats just being an asshole. If anything he hurt the truth movement and swayed people that were there away from it.
haikubandit 3 years ago
He got to say what he wanted. She asked that he stay. He repeated the same thing over and over again and he also was not acting in a way conductive for debate.
csw300 3 years ago
When did his first amendment rights get trampled on...was it when HE interrupted Amy's speech or was it when HE wouldn't let Amy respond or was it when AMY allowed him too stay. Sorry but like 99% of the Tr00th movement he was an obnoxious little shit (too quote DrengenfraVA)
He got too say his piece (in the middle of someone else's speech) and he should have shut up at that point because he was infringing on Amy's right to speak and was extremely rude and silly.
Anokpoet 2 years ago
ahh, the reactionary young man so strident in "his" beliefs! so maybe he's right? great, we're all going to be saved by you? no, it doesn't work that way. "telling" people to believe in something never works, they go the other way out of instinct. he would have been more effective if he simply approached people and TALKED to them like, um, humans do. so much anger, and so for nothing. i think a lot of those guys are rightly frustrated because they are not allowed to be men anymore. but come on
eveningprim 3 years ago
That guy was rude, if he wanted to make a point, he should have gone about it in a more constructive way.
whiteguysamurai 3 years ago
The video that alleges that Noam Chomsky is some kind of illuminati plant is better. Fuckin' Noam Chomsky. Truthers are the worst fucking leftists ever.
bjmensz 3 years ago
1. I don't believe that Truthers are leftists
2. I don't believe leftists are the answer any to anything. They are part of the problem as well.
CRAPCANNONS 3 years ago
previous posts quoting MinnesotaChange.
Opinions?
CRAPCANNONS 3 years ago
"Finally, according to a letter posted on the Educate Yourself website, Eban Ray of KPFK radio in Los Angeles inadvertently revealed that the Rockefeller Foundation funds Democracy Now. It is common knowledge that David Rockefeller, a consummate and proudly declared globalist, attended the inaugural Bilderberg meeting in 1954 and has occupied a prominent place on the steering committee ever since."
CRAPCANNONS 3 years ago
"Amy Goodman appears to have no overt connection to the Bilderbergers, but it is difficult to believe she is unaware of the group. Her Democracy Now program receives funding from Pacifica, the Ford Foundation, and the Lannan Foundation. The Ford Foundation directly funds the Bilderbergers, taking up where the CIA left off (see Bilderberg entry at SourceWatch). As James Petras notes, the CIA has a history of using the Ford Foundation to fund "cultural fronts" like Democracy Now."
CRAPCANNONS 3 years ago
good job< Amy!
LazyHippi 3 years ago
does anyone know if this guy was a cop?
eustatic 3 years ago
ha ha, look another silly alex jones lackey, pathetic "911 truther". get a fucking life asshole
SpeedyOJ 3 years ago
That man is fucking obnoxious. "OH MY GOD YOU DONT AGREE WITH ME YOURE NOT BETTER THAN THE CORPORATE MEDIA". That is a fucking insult, and Im surprised Amy handled it as well as she did, it just goes to show how much more mature she is than that ignorant little twat. What we need is a REAL 9/11 truth movement. None of this "the government did it by default" ideology. 9/11 Inside Jobbers, as I like to call them, discredited any truth movements at present or in the future whatsoever.
psykotrol 3 years ago 2
I agree. The 9/11 truthers are the biggest challenge to rational leftist these days.
timparcival 3 years ago 2
if one for peace, then why are some against order (the new world order). Fact: the planet is overpopulated and has limited resources (not in diamonds or silicon) for clean water, air, fuel. Want a cleaner world, eliminate 75% of the world population.
bananarepublics2 3 years ago
Amy Goodman is my hero!
She will be my wife! haha
anarchrisis 3 years ago
Agent Provocateur.
LordBalto 3 years ago
Wow. She handled that really well.
Creationismsucks 3 years ago
Amy is a loudmouth activist, why should she mind others?
azintp 3 years ago
don't tase me bro
azintp 3 years ago
Any publicity is good publicity.
This guy didn't hurt anyone, people just got upset because he broke the hypnotic spell that is put on people to make them not even think about things like 9/11 truth.
RAISE YOUR VOICE!!
smitty121981 3 years ago
What a fucking twat.
t0kt0k 3 years ago
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I hate the fucking 911 "Truth" people and this is EXACTLY the reason why. I would NOT have let this guy intimidate me like he bullied those trying to throw him the fuck out. Cheap thug.
AnonymousB2B 3 years ago
damn ... 9/11 is a piece of the puzzle
mikejr879 3 years ago
They should immediately thrown this guy the fuck out. Stupid motherfucker.
AnonymousB2B 3 years ago
As for this video, Truthers need to look at this guy for good minute. Ask yourself if this is really what you want representing your side or just being the first face they associate with 9/11 Truth. Getting on a Bullhorn and taking over shows, lectures and even regular glasses has hurt you guys and it makes you look like nuts to Americans who have no idea what 9/11 Truth is to begin with. Shit like this is bad marketing of ideas and it turns more people against you.
ishmaiden 3 years ago
Gospodi...kakoi spor idyot mezhdu etimi lyudimi. Nu khvatit zhe!
OmarAlQaseer 3 years ago
You a Truther has no life when he spends all his time marking thumbs down for all the posts that reject the 9/11 Truth movement. He doesn;t know what he's talking about when he claims that every war since WWI was a false flag, as WWII clearly wasn't and Korea, The '67 Israeli War, and numerous others.
ishmaiden 3 years ago
and why do you suppose Japan invaded Pearl Harbor? because they hated our freedom? think about what we did to antagonize them. i'm not at all saying we deserved the attack, but i think people instigated it, knew about it, and let it happen-launching us into WWII. you are naive to think that our govt. is as honest as the fifth grade history books tells it, or hollywood movies. i guess ignorance truly is bliss.
optical76 3 years ago
It seems like every Truther comes up with this bullshit argument and tries to say that we're in the dark in need of their enlightenment. The Jap Empire did not hate us for our freedom and you're an idiot for trying to peg me as "Bush Sheeple". They wanted us to resolve the political fight over control and influence over the Far East under their terms and by their display of force. The US had possession of the Philippines and the UK had numerous claims in Indo-China as well as Hong Kong.
ishmaiden 3 years ago
The Japs were on a campaign of expansion, during which time the Rape of Nanking took place. This was over a decade long lead up ever since the invasion of Manchuria. They also invaded French Indo-China in 1940. The problem with all that is the US attitude of the Japanese. We didn't view them as very smart or able to see what they were shooting at. That was the racist view of most Americans, including those in military and civilian offices. The US also had a very inflated view of its strength.
ishmaiden 3 years ago
The Japanese military also had a racist view of America as it was viewed as mutt society that was impure and that it would easily back down when shown the power of the Japanese Forces. And to be honest, they had good reason to feel that way as the US military wasn't up to par and the strong isolationist temperament of America had existed for quite some time. You also forget that this was an era when most people thought the oceans were enough of a defense against any kind of threat.
ishmaiden 3 years ago
As far as letting it happen, that's just stupid truther bullshit. Yes, the US Naval intelligence did pick up some codes prior to the attack, but that amongst thousands of codes they picked up. Intelligence wasn't what it is today, which isn't saying much. In addition, none of the intercepts ever gave a time and or place of attack. The information passed on did not detail any concrete evidence that Pearl Harbor was to be the target. They stated the high threat Japs posed and possible war.
ishmaiden 3 years ago
There was no reason to say that the Japanese Navy was going to strike Pearl harbor first either. NOTHING WAS EXPLICITLY STATED OR HINTED AT. There were a number of targets available including the Philippines and Midway. This wasn't like the Zimmerman telegram from WWI with specific information. Also, "letting it happen" did not ensure that the Us would even be involved in the war in Europe to fight Germany. In fact, it was Hitler, for no reason at all, who declared war on the US.
ishmaiden 3 years ago
"There was no reason to say that the Japanese Navy was going to strike Pearl harbor first either. NOTHING WAS EXPLICITLY STATED OR HINTED AT"
not true...lies.
optical76 3 years ago
There was hinted information in regards to possible strikes, but nothing close to what was intercepted before Midway .There were thousands of intercepts that had been received by the Navy and Army. The problem is that these branches didn't really share information as they would today. Plus the collection of information and passing it on to Washington was nowhere close to what it is today. And that's really bad. Their main focus was on the Asian front with an eye on Pearl Harbor, idiot.
ishmaiden 3 years ago
The "let it happen" argument also ignores the fact that if this theory was true, then the US started the war off under the worst of circumstances. Their Naval fleet was hit hard and their carriers were too few and not yet proven as viable weapons. The Us started with one foot in the bucket. If the goal was to aid the UK, then this wasn't the best means of going about it, as the British fleet was too stretched to really defend its interests around the world or at home in the Atlantic.
ishmaiden 3 years ago
It's important to refute truther bullshit as its myth spliced together with sprinkled truths to make their bullshit ideas seem more viable for human consumption. Optical, you don't know jack shit about this topic or how a military operation works or the logistics of these "covert operations". If you're going to try and act smarter than everyone else, you should probably actually know something about what you're talking about first.
ishmaiden 3 years ago
big fuckin deal ishmaiden. i can wickepedia something too and copy and paste. you probablly spent all night researching the mutha fucka. id love to hear your superior knowledge on the US invasion of Iran in the years to come. i'll bet you think they have WMDs as well. . i wasnt trying to act smarter than everyone else, only you douchenozzle.
optical76 3 years ago
Copy paste? Wikipedia is no more a source for reliable then information dispersed over Youtube. I have my own collection of WWII material as that it is my main subject. And yes, you were on a soapbox or else you wouldn't try to play the "I know big buildings more than you" card. You think you're the first Truther to come up with the same bBS argument? Youtube is littered with them and it never fails as I see post after post referring to the rest of us that are in "blissful ignorance".
ishmaiden 3 years ago
ohh look - we have a Matt Damon in Good Will Hunting. How about them apples...big history boy with a "main subject".
infowars(dot)com <---------look into it, then come back to me and apologize when you find out you were wrong.
optical76 3 years ago
Mutha fucka? Are we trying to act "really hood" or just faking ghetto slang? I never believed the Iraq WMD/ terror ties story. I only supported forced inspections, as Iraq thumbed refused to do so since the Clinton years, violating the terms ending the '91 Gulf War. I don't think losers should dictate terms. I still think that was a good case, but not for setting up bases and occupation. I favored actions like Israel's attack on Iraq's nuclear facility. I don't care about nation building.
ishmaiden 3 years ago
We won't invade Iran as there is no will for it here or in the World. I do think we should keep an eye on them as they are not exactly kind and cuddly when it comes to Israel. The fact is US prestige is tainted and Bushes Idiocy has destroyed any credibility this country has for at least the next 10 years. Plus the military is broken, resorting to extended tours and PMC's. It'll take years to fix this and another invasion won't help matters, and may ruin us even further.
ishmaiden 3 years ago
"you were on a soapbox or else you wouldn't try to play the "I know big buildings more than you" card" - what is that supposed to mean? i meant i work in big buildings every day, and lots of floors are always under construction as new companies move out and others move in, giving an opportunity to possibly plant thermite.
FYI i am a general for a union construction company with 44 employees. i also served in the US Army for 5 years. but i guess im an idiot and knows nothing.
optical76 3 years ago
Just curious, but do you just blindly give thumbs down to every post for your dissenting views? Is that the life of a Truther? Do you guys operate form the same training manual or something, because that's' all you guys seem to do? Plus, do you know how many Truthers post here as they claim to be construction experts, engineers, physicists, or other kind of expert? The number's too big to count and I doubt that the US has ever graduated that many in its entire history.
ishmaiden 3 years ago
By the by, I could give rats ass about your 5yrs in the army. My father and uncle served in the Army too, with my dad serving 5 tours in Vietnam and amassing 23 yrs experience. He trained troops in Europe, Central America, and South East Asia on rigging targets with explosives. My Uncle retired from the Army Corps of Engineers, so do yourself a favor and try not to play that "experience" card as it doesn't impress. That's if it's not complete bullshit to begin with.
ishmaiden 3 years ago
why is everything a playing card of some sort. damn dude, your such a dick. im grateful for your father for serving in Vietnam though. my father went to Vietnam as well. i was simply stating my experience which is not bullshit, i was stationed in Garrison Bamberg Germany for 3 years. what have you done for your country?
do you even know what the NWO is?
optical76 3 years ago
Ok, try not to repeat the same truther bullshit that all the rest our posting. Every time I challenge them on their paranoid crap, they try to throw the NWO term at us. They use quotes from world leaders about an impending NWO like its some sinister plot to take over the world. In fact, the term has been used for a century and it refers to the balance of power and spheres of influence, usually after greet events like both WW's, post colonial Africa and Asia, and the Soviet breakup.
ishmaiden 3 years ago
so you don't believe there is a such thing as NWO? did i hear you right?!? did you look into infowars(dot)com yet?
just youtube alex jones-a true libertarian- unlike yourself. you should call yourself a neo-con instead. i mean, do you even realize our freedoms and civil liberties are being taken away from us everyday? doesn't that bother you? a true libertarian would fight that shit. we are freedom fighters, thats was we are. and for the record, you don't challenge me at all, just annoy.
optical76 3 years ago
I swear it's like clockwork with Truthers. You don't see thing their way and all of the sudden you're a neo-con. Do they ask you to repeat this charge over and over again in the 9/11 Truth orientations? Nelson Mandela was a freedom fighter. Zapata and Poncho Villa were freedom fighters. You guys are paranoid nuts with the ability to use a keyboard and surf the net. You calling me a Neo-Con is as laughable as the right wingers I get charging me with being a Liberal faker.
ishmaiden 3 years ago
You should check what the far right says about the same NWO. The paranoia is the same, except that it's based upon the notion that there's a NWO dedicated to ushering the anti-Christ in as the supreme dictator of the world. They use the same articles and clips of people using the term NWO, yet they don't put the term into proper context. I don't believe their shit either as their media is as unreliable as infowars or prisonplanet. The Star and National Enquirer are more credible.
ishmaiden 3 years ago
I've meet and talked to Neo-Cons and I can tell you that you don't know what you're talking about when you try to use the term. Fact is I think the Neo-Cons have too much say in the political dialogue and I resent their closeness to the Religious Right. You might want to try again before using that term again as its not applicable here. It's just a knee jerk rant by a person who doesn't know what he's talking about. At least you didn't say shill like the other Truthers.
ishmaiden 3 years ago
In regards to the freedoms issue: I'd say that it's these tantrums by 9/11 Truthers that make it hard for the rest of us to voice our concerns about these issues without being lumped into the nut category. I have real substantive concerns about the direction this country is taking, but it gets drowned out by the guys with 9/11 shirts and bullhorns screaming that we're all sheeple. People can't listen to the rest of us without thinking if we're Truthers too. You hurt dissent and don't help it.
ishmaiden 3 years ago
paranoia is a sense of awareness. i'm sorry you feel like we should police the world. someday you might understand because i think your somewhat intelligent, however, blissfully close minded. In the whole debate here you haven't stated anything of value, only cheap shots to my opinions...this card and that card, and how were all the same, without making any valid original points of your own.
what do you stand for anyway? you said you are a Libertarian? why?
optical76 3 years ago
No, a heightened sensitivity is a sense of awareness. Paranoia is the irrational sense of things that are out to get you. You still don't know what a neo-Con is, so how the hell can you know what the NWO is. In addition, you should be sorry, as I never ever said that I felt we should be "Policing the world" in any of my posts. In fact, I don't think we should be engaged in that kind of foreign policy and I don't subscribe to preemption as a tactic. I'm actually for the removal of BUSH.
ishmaiden 3 years ago
You want to know what I stand for. I'm just an anti-bullshit person when it comes to politics. I just want Republican form of govt. as I don't believe in mob rule. I want the Liberals out of my wallet when it come to taxes and spending. I want the Neo-Cons and religious Right out of my bedroom and out of the military. That includes Abortion, to which I'm personally opposed, but don't think the govt. has a right to meddle with under any circumstance. This also includes gay marriage.
ishmaiden 3 years ago
You want to go even further than that? I don't like the current search and seizure laws and the nation's current drug policy. Far too many people get thrown in jail for a blunt and lose their property when they get busted. That also includes double jeopardy tracking of sex offenders. They already did their time, so leave them be. I can't stand imminent domain as it's used by state and local govt., as I've seen many people lose their homes for a shiny new strip malls.
ishmaiden 3 years ago
amen.
optical76 3 years ago
ishmaiden: Exactly right. These are tantrums, and it makes everyone who wants to fight for actual investigations into 9/11 is hobbled by these screaming paranoid UFO abduction moonbats. I wish they would go back to their meetings and leave the rational people alone, or better yet try to focus those energies somewhere constructive instead of disrupting public events and stalking and harassing the very people who are trying to make things better in this country.
t0kt0k 3 years ago
I agree with you basically, but when you call someone a moonbat you lose all credibility
oldjoe5 3 years ago
Did you see the clip? The term applies.
t0kt0k 3 years ago
The term was dreamed up by right wing pundits and is used only by the people who are susceptible to their propaganda. Using it destroys your credibility
oldjoe5 3 years ago
Very well, then I don't have credibility. So you're agreeing with someone who doesn't have credibility. And why? Because credibility or no, it's a simple observation and it's true. There is such a thing as standing up and demanding the truth be told. There's such a thing as principled activism. And what this asshole with the megaphone is doing aint it.
t0kt0k 3 years ago
Why the need to label disparagingly? Can't your argument stand on its own?
oldjoe5 3 years ago
I'm not making any argument. I'm calling this guy an asshole and a fucking lunatic. I hope he reads these comments so he can know what I think of him. And I hope it makes him think twice before bringing that megaphone along in his little Jansport bag hoping to disrupt another book promotion or TV show that has nothing to do with his pet conspiracy theory. And if I ever get a chance to see him doing it in person I'll take that megaphone away and use it to tell him the same thing to his face.
t0kt0k 3 years ago
NWO is a real phenomenon, but maybe not in the way most people think. The new world order seems to be in the form of transnational corporations and "neoliberal" NGOs; for example, the International Monetary Fund and The World Trade Organization (formerly the GATT Council). These agents secure more wealth for the rich, leaving the poor even poorer. It's anti-democratic.
Combined with the developing police state in the U.S. (and globally), this NWO is destined to destroy society as we know it.
anarchrisis 3 years ago
Military service for one's country has been meaningless for a long time now. There has not been a single defensive war that this country has been involved in for a very long time. Warfare, since at least WWII, (proxy and otherwise) has been for economic/political purposes (terrorism). Vietnam was a terrorist war of aggression as was Nicaragua, Panama, Colombia, Guatemala, Cuba, Grenada, Haiti, Mexico, Korea, Iraq 1, Iraq 2, Afghanistan 1 and Afghanistan 2 (just to name a few).
anarchrisis 3 years ago 2
The disparaging comments below are meant for ONE libertarian. Not all of you.
OmarAlQaseer 3 years ago
And this person would be?
ishmaiden 3 years ago
i'm sorry. i didn't know you were retarded.
optical76 3 years ago
Islam = Racism. Look at Darfur and the laws in Saudi Arabia which exclude non-muslims.
minnesotaviking22302 3 years ago
cocaine!
o0xst 3 years ago
Leave Amy Goodman alone! She's independent media, you Loose Change freaks! They target anyone who oppose their views! They've targeted Chomsky too! They are leftist fanatics, which I, as a Social-Democrat, am ashamed of.
OmarAlQaseer 3 years ago
I hear you, I'm a Libertarian Republican and roll my eyes everytime I hear a far right religious nut who screams that Obama is as terrorist and that Democrats are out to kill all babies via abortion. These people do more harm to there cause then good, as they seem to only really care about getting some form of attention. Truthers should think twice before sending this idiot again, because he just gave Republicans 10 more votes when screams like that.
ishmaiden 3 years ago
i think your confused on who you think"loose change freaks" really are. leftist fanatics????? i don't think so. they are mostly Libertarians. Alex Jones is a Libertarian not a Liberal like Michael Moore. Two totally different sides with different views on 911 and the war. You should be ashamed to be a social democrat. if you want socialism move to China. the US was founded on Libertarian ideals.
optical76 3 years ago
Social Democracy is Libertarianism, only we don't allow corporations to gang bang the working and middle class. China isn't socialism, but state-capitalism. Faux-Communism. You Libertarians can shove your precious free-market, lassez-faire bullshit up your ass. I hate that "If you don't like it here, go to China" garbage. Most of the best things about the U.S. were inspired by SOCIALISTS.
OmarAlQaseer 3 years ago
your a looser who probably doesn't even have a job.
optical76 3 years ago
you get that kind calling in at WBAI all the time, they are just as aggressive as this guy, they don't want to hear any other opinion! if you believe it wasn't a inside job or that the towers fell on their own..you're accused of being a part of the conspiracy. its insane!
JunebugBpt08 3 years ago
lol a fucking moron
semiliteratedgod 3 years ago
Wow, great camera work. Were you drunk?
The loon in the audience reminded me of a fascist Brownshirt.
PoetryHound 3 years ago
that guy lieks coacaine
what a Saladpuncher
o0xst 3 years ago
VIDEOS by Jordan Maxwell - ILLUMINATI SYMBOLS:
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AntiSlimeBuster 3 years ago
can somebody say psycho?
TheShield04 3 years ago
She ignores the 911 truth movement because it's the most retarded theory since the flat earth society and if anyone believes it they should really just consider suicide instead of breeding.
Moreover, 911 truthers are comprised of retarded pieces of shit like that heckler guy and this further shows why they should just off themselves. And if it makes them feel any better, we can all say that the govt did it and they didn't really blow their own brains out.
deadlaughter2 3 years ago
heh, and someone is actually implying that amy goodman has some secret motives for ignoring the 9/11 truth movement? that's just silly, amy goodman is the pwnage :D
ehsanul 3 years ago 2
her life is the fuckin motive. people like her just cant go around saying inside job without paying for it with their life.
optical76 3 years ago
that might be true, i wouldn't know.. but this guy makes it seem like she has some sinister reasons, lol
ehsanul 3 years ago
They are all crazy. Amy's friend Noam Chomsky was lauded tonight on Cuban Communist Radio. Why does Amy feel a free media silences the masses? She lives in an 'Opressed country'? And she longs for a Socialist counrty...like Cuba? Any reading this...would you want your freedom...in cuba? Amy's mentor and friend Noam thinks it's a neat place.
salinagrrrl69 3 years ago
Yeah he's a shill. 9/11 Truthers don't act like him.
3456ws 3 years ago
Stop using the shill excuse. Yoou probably missed put on a ton of folks that act like this. He's not an agent of BUSH, he's just an attention whore. Plus you probably didn't see them acting out on REAL TIME WITH BILL MAHER? It was the same act as threw their feces at him when he slamed the truthers on his New Rules segment. They tried to bring his show to a hault because he didn't buy their bullshit. It's crap like this that make normal Americans turn thier heads in disgust.
ishmaiden 3 years ago
first of all, have you ever even been in the Trade Center? i didn't think so. i work in high rises all the time in Chicago and almost every building has multiple floors closed and under construction every day. you can believe what you want and no one will call you an idiot, like you go around saying. 911 was a false flag operation just like every other war was started since WWI. its not my fault that you are oblivious to the real history not told in the books.
optical76 3 years ago
Ever worked with explosives ? I didn't think so, as you would have known how much is needed to bring down two 1360+ ft towers. Targets of this size take alot of work to rig and they do not happen with just a few floors closed for work. A substantial amount of the building must be gutted to do this. You also have to make sure these "explosives" can go off after absorbing the planes hitting their exact floor level. It's important to know wtf you're talking about before actign smug.
ishmaiden 3 years ago
Another example of divide and conquer. This guy was probably an undercover agent or policeman. I see it all the time. Dont fall for it.
hedgewan 3 years ago
Go to the Democracy Now website and look up the sept 11 2006 show. This is the episode Amy begins to talk about before being further interrupted. That show features the two guys from Loose Change VS. two guys from popular mechanics magazine. I found this debate to be inconclusive. What do you guys think?
RichyVapors 4 years ago
i think you're a fag and although the debate may have been inconclusive, the film was rock solid. why don;t you go watch it before you say something stupid again. Amy Goodman is a corporate media shill
roboplant 4 years ago
rock solid? I agree the movie is very interesting and deserves some attention, but no second hand information is "rock solid". I mean... they quote Wikipedia sources in that movie for God's sake. That's like no no #1.
jbell0385 4 years ago
Roboplant, your argument is inconclusive. Everyone knows it was an inside job, you homo. I am a commercial pilot who has also worked for the family Law Firm since I can remember. I know a lot about the logistics of what airplane crashes look like (having been through one), and I understand what it takes to win an argument. I watched the movie a couple of times, and even had my father watch it. You should reduce your marijuana consumption, it is clouding your reasoning!
RichyVapors 4 years ago
My God! How do you pull off somehting like that? That would take a colloswl effort to pull a stunt like that and have no one in the VAST loop of conspirators say something before or after? My God! How can you believe it?....How?
salinagrrrl69 3 years ago
12 weeks before 911, the towers were shut down over night, certain floors only at a time for asbestos abaitment, over a month, every night. could the asbestos crews planted thermite durring that period?
optical76 3 years ago
Becuase DOPE! To do that takes massive amounts of co-ordinated effort, planning, on-the-spot communication (radio-phones), wiring, etc. To blow down a building in a controled explosion is a BIG efort. As an architect I know about this. Plus, NYC has tons of inspectors and various authorities everywhere who'd catch on to this. You are just a silly person living in a silly morbid fantasy in your own mind. I pity you.
salinagrrrl69 3 years ago
An explosive job such this can not be done in one night, a few weeks, or a few months. And it can't be done in a building that's still in use by population of 40,000 people. You have to gut a huge portion of the building for a CD, you idiot. And cd's don't start from the top down, as it would involve more work. Also, thermite is used in grenades and don't work very well in fires. They would go off like firecrackers apon the planes impact, you fool. Think before you put this crap out.
ishmaiden 3 years ago
This guy is out of his mind just like you roboplant
ishedolewz 3 years ago
During that film she added no input describing her beliefs because it would've been an uneven debate either way. It was two on two and the bottom line is no one knows what truly truly happened. It is incredibly easy to disbelieve the official story because it contains holes and lies. I love and am absolutely fascinated by conspiracy theories. It is also true that false flag operations are no foreign concept and have been proven to exist. I believe 9/11 was one but that is only one side.
classact1010 3 years ago
Please allow me to restate what I've said. I believe the administration did not take those 52 intelligence warnings seriously at all. Clearly they did not. To say I believe 9/11 was a false flag is grossly irresponsible of me. I can't decide who I believe carried out 9/11.
classact1010 3 years ago
if every patriot had this guy's stones we might get somewhere with ending the nwo
WarrenDemontague33 4 years ago 2
Everyone, you need to be more considerate. We need to stop with the "what an idiot" comments. Listen to Amy. She was telling her audience to settle down and to stop touching that guy. It's hypocritical for you guys to slander someone just b/c he/she doesn't believe the same thing as you. Let's show some respect like Amy did.
jbell0385 4 years ago 2
DIE MOTHERFUCKER
roboplant 4 years ago
lol. Eat shit and die!
jbell0385 4 years ago
Bigg uP!!! not only retards on `american campus`
BITCHASSMOTHERFUCKA 4 years ago
where is the security and their teaser gun....lolzzzz
friendofworld 4 years ago
If that kid had ever looked at DemocracyNow web site, Amy's team gives great all viewpoints coverage. I agree that this is one persons refl;ect of a whole movement trying to hear and understand
Beadbud5000 4 years ago
What episode is Amy referring to, when she says go to the sept 11th episode? I looked for it, didn't find it.
RichyVapors 4 years ago
This guy thought that if he repeated
"you know it was a conspiracy" enough times, he could be able to brainwash Amy Goodman into believing his point, just like all the brainwashing videos he watched over and over until it made him this angry and uninformed young man we see today. He doesn't seem to care about people dying in New Orleans, or anything else besides 911. I'm sick of all this "what happened to building 7?? huh?? what?? bullshit. Proove something.
jessegsinger 4 years ago
Thanks for posting. It's sad to see the left imploding like this. The onus, buddy, is on you, not Amy Goodman. All you have are a bunch of anamolies and no evidence whatsoever anywhere that this was an inside job. If you have the evidence, share it! but otherwise shut up with your 'inside job'. Why don't you spend your time on something worth while, like changing the world for the better?
gavrilo2007 4 years ago
so in you view, if you were adressing a crowd of people, and some loudmouth continued to interupt you, it should be tolerated?
dazs42020 4 years ago
The problem with 9/11 Truth and the movement is that it lacks unity. Though, I strongly suspect the wackiest theories are purposefully injected by the Reich Wing to make the mainstream movement seem ridiculous to the uninformed. There were no explosives, but there was a government who knew it was coming, and issued a stand-down order. Michael C. Ruppert has it all documented.
jeffc1320 4 years ago
Ron Paul
madchesternites 4 years ago 2
what is it with angry, domineering young males and conspiracy theories???
socrateseatshemlock 4 years ago
But the guy is right about 911. It's a shame he attack the lady like that though.
MustacheVerra 4 years ago
Wins over a lot of people there, doesn't he?
I mean, to the view "I'm never going to have anything to do with that bunch ("We Are Change"). What a PR victory!
daveyork0 4 years ago
Good job, Goodman.
SlowAndSteady2 4 years ago