I like Penderecki's music very much. This piece seems to be very much in his accsesible idiom. There seem to be allusions to many composers: Bartok (particularly Bluebeard's Castle), Bruckner, Berlioz, Stravinsky (the chromatic Cor Anglais passage recalls a motif from The Rite of Spring), Wagner etc. The start is a bit like the theme of 'Jaws' inverted and speeded up - which made me smile at first. The piano writing strikes me as quite conventional - to be continued
I adore Penderecki's music. The dedication to the victims of 911 is appropriate but I'd like to believe the concerto is not about them or that tragic day. I don't know what KP had in mind. KP's music stretches tonality and some tricks he uses for strings don't translate directly to piano for obvious reasons. It's an interesting piece of music but I always get the sense that the piano can't do what he wants because it has only 12 tones.
I'm glad to see that several of us Nashville symphonygoers have congregated around this piece! It truly was spectacular, haunting; I simply had to hear it again. And I'm in total agreement that this recording--indeed, any recording of this piece--leaves something to be desired. However, as I cannot go back to Saturday night, I suppose this will have to do.
@CMRivdog: This will be the only available recording on the market, with Penderecki conducting the Katowice National Radio Philharmonic and Beata Bilnska as soloist, recorded in 2007. The recording has still the original ending (see part 4). It was altered in the same year after the recording, bringing in another quote of the chorale theme in the celesta, surrounded by other previously introduced gestures of resignation, upheaval and marching.
I saw Penderecki conduct this piece last night in Nashville, with Barry Douglas on piano. I have to say that it must be heard live for the full impact. I do not like this recording as much as I liked the piece last night. The live aspect really allows all of the complexities and dynamic changes to effect you more. I love the piece.
I agree. I was at the Saturday night performance. What an amazing performance,not only by Douglas but by the entire orchestra. The only way to get the full impact is to hear it live
Well I have to say, it's kind of like a breath of fresh air after hearing Threnody for Hiroshima victims or Polymorphia. Don't get me wrong; I like those pieces, but I will always prefer more traditional music. I really like this piece... thanks for sharing it with me!
Yeah pretty much all penderecki's work on that style (not super modern like trheno or others) is alike. jajaja its funny but he does steal him self :D.
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johnmoorebag 2 weeks ago
one person says he/she doesn't like piano very much in concerts?
another finds allusions to 5 composers
does any one screen the responses???
davideberhardt100 3 months ago
scariest picture ever,
venskus2009 3 months ago
Is it just me or do the opening notes allude to the beginning motifs of Mahler 2? Anyone?
fokg3C 5 months ago
@fokg3C Probably just you. A huge number of Symphonic works in the repertoire start with tutti phrases.
As for my opinion on the concerto: it is post 1960s Penderecki work. Nuff said.
AfroDeezeeYak 4 months ago
Dear Absintherra,
I like Penderecki's music very much. This piece seems to be very much in his accsesible idiom. There seem to be allusions to many composers: Bartok (particularly Bluebeard's Castle), Bruckner, Berlioz, Stravinsky (the chromatic Cor Anglais passage recalls a motif from The Rite of Spring), Wagner etc. The start is a bit like the theme of 'Jaws' inverted and speeded up - which made me smile at first. The piano writing strikes me as quite conventional - to be continued
dhackj 6 months ago
It sounds very light comparing to other pieces of Penderecki
BLOP888 8 months ago
Quo vadis, Krzysztof
CaptainBluebear08 10 months ago
@CaptainBluebear08 ad infernum
octavianmihailescu 1 month ago
The orchestration is very intricate and nice - like Stravinsky. I'm not partial to the thematic material (or atonality in general).
fbargus 1 year ago
I adore Penderecki's music. The dedication to the victims of 911 is appropriate but I'd like to believe the concerto is not about them or that tragic day. I don't know what KP had in mind. KP's music stretches tonality and some tricks he uses for strings don't translate directly to piano for obvious reasons. It's an interesting piece of music but I always get the sense that the piano can't do what he wants because it has only 12 tones.
jdbrown371 1 year ago
Questo è il miglior concerto di tutta la storia della musica!
benny82ta 1 year ago
@benny82ta
Io ormai ho perso la testa per la musica di Penderecki: non faccio altro che ascoltarla tutti i giorni. Ma tu proprio...!
danise75 1 year ago
@danise75 Io cosa?
benny82ta 1 year ago
@danise75 Io cosa?
benny82ta 1 year ago
I'm glad to see that several of us Nashville symphonygoers have congregated around this piece! It truly was spectacular, haunting; I simply had to hear it again. And I'm in total agreement that this recording--indeed, any recording of this piece--leaves something to be desired. However, as I cannot go back to Saturday night, I suppose this will have to do.
VirRooki34 2 years ago
Just curious, what orchestra and pianist is this, what recording?
CMRivdog 2 years ago
@CMRivdog: This will be the only available recording on the market, with Penderecki conducting the Katowice National Radio Philharmonic and Beata Bilnska as soloist, recorded in 2007. The recording has still the original ending (see part 4). It was altered in the same year after the recording, bringing in another quote of the chorale theme in the celesta, surrounded by other previously introduced gestures of resignation, upheaval and marching.
MilsteinRulez 1 year ago
I saw Penderecki conduct this piece last night in Nashville, with Barry Douglas on piano. I have to say that it must be heard live for the full impact. I do not like this recording as much as I liked the piece last night. The live aspect really allows all of the complexities and dynamic changes to effect you more. I love the piece.
RaulGA521 2 years ago
I agree. I was at the Saturday night performance. What an amazing performance,not only by Douglas but by the entire orchestra. The only way to get the full impact is to hear it live
CMRivdog 2 years ago
Awesome concerto!, very intense and enjoyable. I like the late Penderecki as much as his 1960s music.
CZP87 2 years ago
Well I have to say, it's kind of like a breath of fresh air after hearing Threnody for Hiroshima victims or Polymorphia. Don't get me wrong; I like those pieces, but I will always prefer more traditional music. I really like this piece... thanks for sharing it with me!
fishwithoutwings 2 years ago
It's not his best work by far, but still very good. His first cello concerto would have to be his best.
DrFattyJr 2 years ago
omg I love it sooooo much!!!!
musicnerdalways 2 years ago
didnt understand what u say on video information, but this is best concert for piano for me.
RodrigusVI 2 years ago
Just saw your comment^^ Don't know what you can't understand^^
I just heard Pendereckis Concerto Grosso for 3 Celli, and if you concentrate you find great analogy to this concerto.
I've got a notion that he's copying himself o_O
Absintherra 2 years ago
Yeah pretty much all penderecki's work on that style (not super modern like trheno or others) is alike. jajaja its funny but he does steal him self :D.
And btw
RodrigusVI 2 years ago
@Absintherra
haha totally agree - with his constant use of chromatic scales and archaic melodie.
not unlike his sextet and second violin concerto; i guess thats his style =]
clevercleverchris 1 year ago
jeżeli to jest dla gazety; dlaczego muzyka?
Penderecki rezurekcja, dla mnie to dziwne : nie pasuję!
no, jaka rezurekcja?
jeżeli to było dla udbudowania wieży, to pasowałoby!
POWROTTATY 2 years ago
i jak wyglada twoja opinia o rezurekcje?
Absintherra 2 years ago