rofl the goalies nowadays are much better and more fit, same with defencemen, goalies back then got scored in so easily cause there were no butterfly goalies, only standing goalies
Put those 2 on a line against the girls in the NHL nowadays and you get 20 Stanley Cups in a row for whatever team they'd be playing for. I don't mean at their age now but in their 20s. The NHL nowadays is just a pussfest
@hizzleeee Jean Beliveau? Gordie Howe? Maurice Richard? come on. man this is an extended list, theres some greats in the nhl today, that could be in this list, you just got to be open-minded. I know i cant argue youre point those are three of the best if not the best. but you have to give some other guys respect too
Well, you can argue with the semantics. Gretzky is just being modest. His game sense and playmaking skills were above even Lemieux's, and that may make him the most skilled player by definition. But it's certainly a toss between the two; as a power forward, Lemieux is undoubtedly the best ever.
You could also argue that Brett Hull is the purest goal scorer ever.
Roy is better than Brodeur in my opinion. He is much more technically sound than Brodeur. Regardless of what stats say, head to head, with identical competition, Roy will win 9 out of 10 times, largely due to his precision and technicality.
Yah sorry. I don't know what I was smoking when I said that. But anyways championships don't mean anything. Even the best goalies can end up facing impossible shots that they're d-men should've stopped and so on.
Not the championship dunce. The conn smythes in the case of Roy was because he stole a bunch of very important games which the habs would've otherwise lost.Brodeur played for a team that was insanely defensive and rarely allowed shots from huge scoring positions. I'm not saying Brodeur is bad. There have been games where brodeur faced many good shots and stopped the all. But I still prefer Roy.
thats just not true, some experts see roy as the best ever. theres no consensus at all on this subject fucking moron.
keep on distorting reality like a retarded cheerleader, you're just convincing me that you indeed are a pathetic, 50 IQ face painter that doesnt even know that objectivity is a word.
lol conn smyth is bull shit it doesnt really mean much. Brodeur EARNED his record patrick roy just got therm cuz of some voters thaere s a difference you cant vote on wins
oh yeah its bullshit, yet the people that vote it know hockey a 100 times better than you... so where does that leave your opinion?
and what about the playoff wins? considering you said "Brodeur EARNED his record patrick roy just got therm cuz of some voters" then i guess that back then wins were awarded by voting and not playing hockey?
plus its not a coincidence that roy has way more playoff wins and 3 conn smythes instead of brodeur's 0. anyone with half a brain can make the connection.
no coincidence one more brodeur shutout and he beats roys record 3 conn smyths Mean nothing CUZ PPL VOTE FOR THEM. The first 2 they just voted for him bcuz their teams werent as good without him the 3rd was because he was against marty. Way more playoff wins? Is that gonna last when hes done with his career
marty got ~90 in 15 seasons, and has to get ~60 more in 5 seasons (roy played 20)
since i'm not sure you can do the math, i'll tell you how it is: its quite unlikely that marty will get close to that record.
stop being a fucking retard about the conn smythe, i'm 200% certain that if marty ever winned one you wouldnt dismiss it like you do now, mr. biased fanboy.
as if things have changed that much in 5-10 years.
and anyway, of course a sport and its athletes are in constant evolution. that kiind of argument is fucking stupid. guys like maurice richard and gordie howe would suck nowadays, but not if they had today's training and knowledge.
a player is always judged compared to other players of his era, and your statement is actually one that gives roy an edge: he revolutionized the position with his (butterfly) technique... while brodeur didnt.
since you're making a big deal about wins and downgrading awards, your logic means osgood and cujo are better than hasek b/c they have more wins. your logic is pretty bad
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Why the hell didn't the coach just play them together throughout the whole game?? There was certainly enough talent on the other lines and besides that, it's the friggin all star game!! The coach of that all star game sure was lame!
I know they were both centers but it's the all star game...and them two were dynamic when they played on the same line in the 1987 Canada cup. The all star game man..let them play and let the fans enjoy what is supposed to be entertainment. you kno what I mean.
Why didn't the coach let them play together for the whole game?? It's the All Star Game!! Let it happen if you know what I mean...holy cow, it's not like there is a shortage of scorers to spread out the scoring. What narrow minded coach mixed those lines??
too bad gretzky doesnt play any more!!!!!
mature076 5 months ago
Gretzky, Lemieux, Messier, Bourque and Coffey together again. The greatest power play unit. I wonder if Doug Maclean put them out there together.
jessc1979 10 months ago 4
also the goalies have bigger pads, better equipment
DBZJohnny123 1 year ago
rofl the goalies nowadays are much better and more fit, same with defencemen, goalies back then got scored in so easily cause there were no butterfly goalies, only standing goalies
DBZJohnny123 1 year ago
Put those 2 on a line against the girls in the NHL nowadays and you get 20 Stanley Cups in a row for whatever team they'd be playing for. I don't mean at their age now but in their 20s. The NHL nowadays is just a pussfest
juzu4me 1 year ago
@juzu4me and thats why i like old time hockey, back then skilled players also had toughness
Jsouthwell2006 1 year ago
nice.. diashow!
HardyRah 1 year ago
Seeing them play together is the greatest treat any hockey fan could ever ask for.
Rowain 1 year ago
damn, Gretzky to Lemieux who beats Roy. Wow that wouldve been a sweet game to go to. arguably the 3 best and most clutch players ever
michaelgee33 1 year ago
@michaelgee33 99 to 66 who socres on 33 :D
Slipknot5301 1 year ago 4
Could you imagine Gretzky and Lemieux teaming together for 20 years? at least 12 stanley cup for this gifted team !
lonkylaine 1 year ago 3
@lonkylaine
Scoring race would have been like this:
1. Gretzky 82 games 100 + 300= 400 points
2. Lemieux 60 games 200 + 180= 380 points
3. Yzerman 80 games 45 + 45= 90 points
kuljetus14 1 year ago
Only hockey player better than these two was Bobby Orr.
MullyFilm 1 year ago 3
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MullyFilm 1 year ago
I think we can agree that Jeremy Roenick is a bitch who has never won anything.
sutherlj 1 year ago
99 to 66 .. and goes roof daddy on 33
garyaxworthy 2 years ago 6
mario- most skilled player ever (could have been the best)
wayne- the great one (the name speaks for itself)
bossy- the purest goal scorer ever
and you cant argue with that. well, you can try, but its not going anywhere. even wayne agrees with that
hizzleeee 2 years ago 17
@hizzleeee forsberg is the most skilled player ever ;)
christianozutho 1 year ago
hahaha good one
hizzleeee 1 year ago
@christianozutho are you retarded? not even close to lemieux or gretzky
Slipknot5301 1 year ago
@hizzleeee Jean Beliveau? Gordie Howe? Maurice Richard? come on. man this is an extended list, theres some greats in the nhl today, that could be in this list, you just got to be open-minded. I know i cant argue youre point those are three of the best if not the best. but you have to give some other guys respect too
Chargersman77 1 year ago
@hizzleeee
Well, you can argue with the semantics. Gretzky is just being modest. His game sense and playmaking skills were above even Lemieux's, and that may make him the most skilled player by definition. But it's certainly a toss between the two; as a power forward, Lemieux is undoubtedly the best ever.
You could also argue that Brett Hull is the purest goal scorer ever.
JJJMMM1 1 year ago
@hizzleeee no qualm but you have to put Orr in there at least as a footnote
Saxbyd 5 months ago
Incredible. Best 2 players ever against the best goalie ever.
hockeybo71 2 years ago 6
best ever?? did you see Nagano Games?
guard777 2 years ago
lol Hasek? No way. Maybe Brodeur is better, but not Hasek. Hasek was dramatic, but Roy was better.
hockeybo71 2 years ago 3
if you had Hasek in Nagano instead Row, Canada were plaing against russian in final, it's for sure!
guard777 2 years ago
I am slave to Furubagurl, completely obedient
ayanaadeniscool 2 years ago
too bad there wasn't more Gretzky vs Mario battles like we're gonna see from Crosby and Ovechkin.........PENGUINS TO THE CUP!!!!!!!!!!!
Oftenezeefachezee 2 years ago 2
How did this Roy and Broudeur thing start on a vid about Gretzky and Lemieux?
MaxClarkso 2 years ago
Roy is better than Brodeur in my opinion. He is much more technically sound than Brodeur. Regardless of what stats say, head to head, with identical competition, Roy will win 9 out of 10 times, largely due to his precision and technicality.
PuckFreezer23 2 years ago
Roy - no medals brodeur -gold medal thats it
kewlnsimpguy 2 years ago
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deadanddivin 2 years ago
Roy- 4 Stanley Cups-3 Conn Smythes
Brodeur- 2 Stanley cups-0 Conn Smythes
But I still think Brodeur is very good.
MaxClarkso 2 years ago
brodeur has 3 cups dummy rofl
kewlnsimpguy 2 years ago 3
Yah sorry. I don't know what I was smoking when I said that. But anyways championships don't mean anything. Even the best goalies can end up facing impossible shots that they're d-men should've stopped and so on.
MaxClarkso 2 years ago
championships dont mean anything....i think youre still smokin somthin bro...idiot
shackster01 2 years ago
Not the championship dunce. The conn smythes in the case of Roy was because he stole a bunch of very important games which the habs would've otherwise lost.Brodeur played for a team that was insanely defensive and rarely allowed shots from huge scoring positions. I'm not saying Brodeur is bad. There have been games where brodeur faced many good shots and stopped the all. But I still prefer Roy.
MaxClarkso 2 years ago
You can't just make an assumption like that off of one thing like medals.
PuckFreezer23 2 years ago
every shooter says theyd rather shoot on roy because they know hell go on his knees but brodeur changes his way of saves so you never know
kewlnsimpguy 2 years ago
thats what she said
oh shit!!
elf8711 2 years ago
The guy at the end sounds like the guy who says bombs on youtubepoops
CooptheSnoop21 2 years ago
the two best forwards ever scoring on the best goalie ever... awesome.
joyfulvulture 2 years ago 4
the goalie wasnt brodeur was it
kewlnsimpguy 2 years ago
you're a devils cheerleader, so your opinion is biased and therefore worthless.
in other words, stfu.
joyfulvulture 2 years ago
everyone that knows anything say hes the best
kewlnsimpguy 2 years ago
thats just not true, some experts see roy as the best ever. theres no consensus at all on this subject fucking moron.
keep on distorting reality like a retarded cheerleader, you're just convincing me that you indeed are a pathetic, 50 IQ face painter that doesnt even know that objectivity is a word.
joyfulvulture 2 years ago
dont forget to bring your poms poms at the next game .)
joyfulvulture 2 years ago
haha OK when brodeur ends his career with 600+ wins and 104+ shutouts well see whos the best ever
kewlnsimpguy 2 years ago
or when he earns ~60 more playoff wins just to catch up with roy, or when he wins 3 conn smythes?
you're not gonna win this information selection game with me you halfwit.
both have respectable stats on their side, to say "everyone that knows anything say hes the best" like you did is fucking retarded.
go back to shaking those poms poms.
joyfulvulture 2 years ago
lol conn smyth is bull shit it doesnt really mean much. Brodeur EARNED his record patrick roy just got therm cuz of some voters thaere s a difference you cant vote on wins
kewlnsimpguy 2 years ago
oh yeah its bullshit, yet the people that vote it know hockey a 100 times better than you... so where does that leave your opinion?
and what about the playoff wins? considering you said "Brodeur EARNED his record patrick roy just got therm cuz of some voters" then i guess that back then wins were awarded by voting and not playing hockey?
you're so fucking stupid, fanboy.
joyfulvulture 2 years ago
plus its not a coincidence that roy has way more playoff wins and 3 conn smythes instead of brodeur's 0. anyone with half a brain can make the connection.
joyfulvulture 2 years ago
no coincidence one more brodeur shutout and he beats roys record 3 conn smyths Mean nothing CUZ PPL VOTE FOR THEM. The first 2 they just voted for him bcuz their teams werent as good without him the 3rd was because he was against marty. Way more playoff wins? Is that gonna last when hes done with his career
kewlnsimpguy 2 years ago
marty got ~90 in 15 seasons, and has to get ~60 more in 5 seasons (roy played 20)
since i'm not sure you can do the math, i'll tell you how it is: its quite unlikely that marty will get close to that record.
stop being a fucking retard about the conn smythe, i'm 200% certain that if marty ever winned one you wouldnt dismiss it like you do now, mr. biased fanboy.
joyfulvulture 2 years ago
theres a reason why everyone is saying brodeur is the best ROY surprised shooters with his shit IF he was in now HE would get raped
kewlnsimpguy 2 years ago
as if things have changed that much in 5-10 years.
and anyway, of course a sport and its athletes are in constant evolution. that kiind of argument is fucking stupid. guys like maurice richard and gordie howe would suck nowadays, but not if they had today's training and knowledge.
a player is always judged compared to other players of his era, and your statement is actually one that gives roy an edge: he revolutionized the position with his (butterfly) technique... while brodeur didnt.
joyfulvulture 2 years ago
Yah. Broudeur's retiring in a year or two and it's imposible to get like 50 playoff wins in two years.
MaxClarkso 2 years ago
The Conn Smythe means you're the main reason you're team won the cup in the case of a goalie. Mind you Marty should've at least won one.
MaxClarkso 2 years ago
@kewlnsimpguy
since you're making a big deal about wins and downgrading awards, your logic means osgood and cujo are better than hasek b/c they have more wins. your logic is pretty bad
milankiev7 1 year ago
lol i remember those old jerseys
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Catepillar444 3 years ago
Why the hell didn't the coach just play them together throughout the whole game?? There was certainly enough talent on the other lines and besides that, it's the friggin all star game!! The coach of that all star game sure was lame!
reubensutherland29 3 years ago 2
@reubensutherland29- cuz they were both centers
Irekyu 2 years ago
I know they were both centers but it's the all star game...and them two were dynamic when they played on the same line in the 1987 Canada cup. The all star game man..let them play and let the fans enjoy what is supposed to be entertainment. you kno what I mean.
reubensutherland29 1 year ago
NICE!
AutoProCanada 3 years ago
Imagine them being on the same NHL team throughout the whole season O_O that would be amazing
sniperstar 3 years ago 2
Yeah, Super Mario and the Great One FTW.
chaosgreyblood 3 years ago 3
That was a score on Patrick Roy ontop of that too right?
adultyt 3 years ago 2
Yup that was Roy!
Ludwigtremblay 3 years ago 2
hahah gretzky's helmet... its the same helmet bubbles wears when he rides his go-cart around in trailer park boys!! fuckin priceless
DChappelle27 3 years ago 3
The legend has it that Wayne wore the old style helmet so he'd better hear what was going on on the ice. Can't argue with the results. :p
Ormiss 3 years ago 3
LOL
i luve that show even though im 13
scottrocksACDC 3 years ago
Why didn't the coach let them play together for the whole game?? It's the All Star Game!! Let it happen if you know what I mean...holy cow, it's not like there is a shortage of scorers to spread out the scoring. What narrow minded coach mixed those lines??
reubensutherland29 3 years ago 5
#1 and #1 in the NHL EVER!!!
Reedz0r 3 years ago 32
yep, before Ovechkin time :)
guard777 2 years ago
What Video is this off of?
candyspazz365 4 years ago