i have never in my life seen such a rabble of a so called pipe band i have marched behind many pipe bands through the army highland games and marched with them in other countries but this is the worst i have ever seen or heard
I don't see any prats around, but I'm glad to see your on board with Clan Theory. The Scots were those Wild Irish cousins(we all have a few, don't we?) who moved, or were sent away to Caledonia, and have been rockin' on the pipes ever since. Remember your Irish History kids! Cuchullainn took a roadtrip to study at the mad shieldmaiden Scatach's warrior's school, on Skye, it is said.
scottish gaelic music and culture came from ireland originally also scottish piping has been anglicised and militarialised to suit england and empire building over 3 centuries .what where pipe bands like 2 or 3 hundred years ago a bit ragged and not from lowland scotland who where seen as sasenachs .also rather pretentious nowadays.answer that you prats
@thecrusades2 I don't think anyone is trying to "steal" anyones culture here. The point I was trying to make was that the military tradition of piping is common to both Scotland and Ireland as part of a shared Gaelic heritage. The Irish Army and the Irish Guards & RIR in the British Army all have fine traditions of pipe bands, although they all wear saffron coloured kilts rather than tartan.
Bagpipes and kilts are part of Gaelic heritage in both Ireland and Scotland. There is nothing more authentically Scottish about them than Irish. The Irish Army band play bagpipes and wear kilts as do many historically Irish regiments in other armies. Besides the band is playing "The Minstrel Boy" which is most definitely Irish and has become very traditional for police and fire departments all over the US due to the large numbers of Irish in those services.
@cathkinghost In Boston and other US cities there are probably more of Irish descent than there are Irish in Ireland The tradition of Pipe Bands in Fire and Police Departments started because of the high number of Irish that gravitated towards that profession in American cities. Truth is no one really gives a crap about Scottish-Irish distinctions here. Immigrants often mix cultures.
@cathkinghost Yeah pipe bands can also represent irish british army regiments but they are american..get your own culture ffs and if your going to copy someelse at least play the pipes right. After listening to it a year on its worst than i remember it being.
@Noddy1690 . mate i'm scottish with a bitty irish. an yes the irish do have their own culture. they share it with scotland and wales. its called celtic.
however the irish and scotch share gaelic (in scotland pronounced galic, in ireland and elsewhere gaelic (gay-lik)
sounds like what we got here is a couple of scots that don't really know what theyre talkin about, first off the story behind their kilts is red for fire and green for Irish, and idk how it is where ever your from but in America we have this little thing called freedom, so we can play bagpipes and wear kilts if we want. I'm actually begining to think that your pissed that scotland is under brittish rule.
I'll agree with you on that last part, this was my dads old band mixed with another band, its the old Boston Gaelic Fire Brigade and Worcester Fire, the old band split and they started another band ( with no direction) the new brigade is all Boston Fire guys under the instruction of world class pipe and drum instructors.
@PrideofNi me too mate! i played bass and tenor drum in many a pipe band but, that is something else. the bands i played in were really good. just goes to show, ye can have as much tartan as ye like, but if ye canny play yer rubbish.
Under Brittish rule ! I dont think so. We have a Scottish Parliament and the Prime Minister of Great Britain is a Scot and so is his Chancellor (useless twats that they are) and as for the little thing you call freedom, try telling that to the Afro-Americans in the states south of the Mason-Dixie Line. This is still a sloppy crap band.
first off, its not Afro-American you dumbass, its African American, and secondly, its Mason-Dixon Line, god your a dumbass. and youve probably never been to in the south,or states for that matter. around here its every creed, every kind, to give us depth for strength. but you are right about one thing ill give you that, this band does suck, the new band is gonna be a competition band
Minor grammatical errors, (what do you expect from a dumbass) and you are right I have never visited the US of A, one of the few colonies I,ve not visited yet. When this band does what you say its gonna do, post it on here and I will say something nice about it. Aint you up late? what time is it there
lunch time! Colonies? i dont think so buddy we kicked your ass out of this country twice, this day in history 4 July 1776, we told you limey SOBs that we werent gonna take anymore of your shit, and this new band sounds great, except for the fact it only has x amount of people that have their tunes down and can march
Will you be taking a cup of tea with your lunch, I heard that tea was a favorite beverage in Boston. When they have the tunes and learnt to march are they still going to wear British military uniforms. Happy 4th of July
actually no we throw tea in the harbor, funny thing is once we did it everybody else decided to copy us 300+ years later. as for uniforms my dad was tellin me that theyre thinkin of goin with a more irish look, probably still gonna keep the tartan, possibly go with a different design, and their cover will probably be a black scally,
An Irish caubeen would look good and I believe there is an Irish national tartan. Good luck and dont forget to post a vid when the band is up and running
@tongting10 And a Cornish tartan, and a Northumbrian, and a Sikh tartan, county tartans, numerous universty and individual tartans in America, in fact anybody with the money and an ego to match can have one designed for them. But hey we are all Jock Thompsons bairns at the end of the day, Cheri an drasta
ok they first of all need to learn how to blow steday drones also tune the chanters and mayb actualluy learn to play the bagpipes and the drummers just do us a favor and quit gien us guys a bad name wiv playing like that .
It,s a Scottish tune so whats it called, I only know it as the Minstrell Boy, please educate me. I have heard it played under the guise of a Scotts tune but I cant place it. As far as the band goes it,s a bag of shite.
What idiot posted this pish .Irish?The band are wearing a generic victorian BRITISH ARMY uniform wearing royal Stewart tartan(SCOTTISH)Glengarry bonnets(SCOTTISH) and playing SCOTTISH tunes on Highland pipes(SCOTTISH).Please rish/americans stop ripping off other countries traditions .I know imitation is the highest form of flatery but this is just too much to stomach
Actually the tune is the "Minstral Boy" which I think is Irish. As for the rest of your comments they are spot on. By the way only in America have I seen pipers wearing diced glengarry's and their marching leaves a lot to be desired.
I dont know if you are an Irish American but do they really know what Irish and scottish cultures are? I doubt it they try too hard to be Irish when only about 5 million people are actually Irish and the rest have some links going back 150 years. As to what they have done to St Patricks day its now a tat excuse to basically get drunk while wearing green. I shudder to think what they'll do next.
Irish pipes as far as I know are now made with 3 drones too. So there is no differance between Scot/ Irish pipes. As for kilts tartan is pure Scottish.
yeah true the Irish warpipe is pretty much a rip off of the Scottish great highland bagpipe but it literally was a copy because the Irish liked them. Traditional Irish piped instruments like the uilleann pipes are very different, and if u were to pick an instrument to represent Ireland is it doesnt really make any sense to use the one instrument Ireland basically stole u have to admit.
How do you know the Irish stole them from the Scottish and not the other way round? There were bagpipes found in county Wexford that date from 4000bc.
actually they were played by both countries but when the english invaded ireland, they banned the highland pipe and considered it to be a sign of war, and if caught playing, you were hanged. so the irish ten developed new pipes so they could continue to play, and the uilleann pipes were a result of this
well yah it would, but i think its a way for the Irish to celebrate the right to play the once outlawed highland pipes on a once outlawed celebration, and its also the anniversery of the day george washington drove the brittish out of Boston
@awmascrotum Yeah this band isnt very sharp but cruise around YouTube and you'll find lots of good American pipe bands. These particular guys look like they were filmed at the end of a long parade. American culture is at its root Anglic so its natural that we would emulate many things like Pipe Bands from the UK. Bagpipes btw are not solely in the UK, they are all over the world in differing forms.
I cant believe that a sloppy ? marching band video could arouse so much diatribe and trivial crap comments, and historical inaccuracies. Watch this space.
LOL! I don't think these are Irish people. There Scottish or maybe English cause there wearing the red tartan. Isn't that the roal family killt? sorry if i spelled killt wrong pls correct me if i'm wrong ! ciao
Thanks to all the scots in this section commenting on how absolutly stupid this whole "irish bagpipe" american phenominon is. The bottom line is bearskin bonnets, tartan kilts and great HIGHLAND bagpipes are 100% Scottish. And I know this may come as a shock to the plastic paddy americans clapping wildingly and drinking green beer but Scotland and Ireland are infact 2 seperate and very differant countries. Infact not entirely well liked by one another!
I wasn't saying that they're two countries, or even that they should be generalized and lumped together. All I said was that 1. they have a common origin and common ancestry, 2. the Great Highland Bagpipe as it exists today, and its two drone predecessor, appeared in Scotland and Ireland at approximately the same time, and thus may have developed contemporaneously or independently of one another, though it is more likely that they are in fact the same instrument and appeared in Ireland first.
I think that the fact that their Gaelic names are of the same cognate (píob mhór and a' phìob mhòr, respectively) weighs heavily in favor of this theory. No more than this did I ever assert. And, lastly, to emphasize the importance of this, nor did I ever state that this is an Irish Pipe Band in any way, shape or form. They are clearly of the Scottish dress and tradition. However, I don't think that dress matters as much as country of origin; they are nothing more than an American Pipe Band.
They had bagpipes in Ireland before Scotland, but the English banned them there. Pipe bands in Ireland do now wear a glengarry hat instead of an Irish caubeen, and tartan kilts instead of their plain green or saffron. They NEVER wear diced hat bands or Royal Stuart tartan, both being symbols of loyalty to the crown! Southie is the Irish part of Boston, USA, and these are Americans dressed as Scots.
Christ ive just noticed theyre wearing Royal Stewart tartan aswell. by the way kingofcelts below is talking pish as pipes were found all over eurasia and even north africa and India 2000 yrs ago
Irish? why are they wearing scottish/british military uniforms. pipe bands were invented by british military for the scottish highland regiments in the late 18th century, even the head gear is British military (Glengarry) sorry boys but youre as Irish as sushi
@awmascrotum well said.... and it was royal stewart tartan, the queens clan... some of them birds look rough though, they could belfast... regards, finnbarr...
There seems to be confusion on where the pipes came from. Originally, they may have come from further afield than Ireland. There are descriptions Hittite from the middle east which would have ancient conections ligustically to Irish of the bag pipes. The Highland/Irish pipes as they are known were brought to scotland from Ireland along with the Gaelic language. The Uillean pipes are a very complicated Irish inst invented to avoid the outlawing of the Irish warpipes/highland by the British crown.
I'm not sure about the plaid kilts, however bagpipes are in traditional Irish music as well as Ulellean (?) pipes. There is a scene with Sean Connery in "The Longest Day" where a Scottish piper is ashore playing as the British force hits Sword Beach. Connery's character upon hearing the piper says "Aye, it takes an Irishman to play the pipes!" Its just like scotch. It was the Irish who taught the Scots how to distill whiskey! Anything which mixes with scotch is better with Jamieson's!
Actually the tune is Irish; it's Wearin' o' the Green. And while they are in very Scottish garb, the Irish also wear spats, sporrans, hackles and kilts, and even have pretty much the same bagpipe; the Irish Warpipes. The two are so similar that it's impossible to say which came first and which lent one to the other, as they both appeared at approximately the same time in Scotland and Ireland. But what does it matter in the long run? The Scots migrated from Ireland in the 6th century AD, anyhow!
NO the Irish warpipes are atwo drone instrument the highlands these lads are playing have three. It makes a good deal of difference these pipers are dressed in the SCottis h fashion not the Irish one. Isee no Saaffron nocaubeen on any of them the are dressed in the Scottish victorian (bleech) style.
I didn't say that the Phiob Mhor and the Warpipes were EXACTLY the same, I said they were PRETTY MUCH the same, without reference to historical period. The Earliest antecedents and incarnations of the Phiob Mhor were exactly the same as the Irish Warpipes; mouth blown; conical-bored, eight-holed chanter; and one bass and one tenor drone.
The only verifiable historical documentation of these instruments are carvings and paintings which appeared at approximately the same time in Scotland and Ireland, both of which depict an instrument which matches the above description.
Since no extant examples of either one are known to history, since it is impossible to confirm or conclude any mutually exclusive, distinguishing features of either bagpipe from said historical documentation, and since both instruments appeared at approximately the same time in Scotland and Ireland, it is most likely that not only the two instruments are one and the same, but were both developed contemporaneously by the Gaelic culture of Scotland and Ireland.
Moreover, both are called piob mhor in their Gaelic cognates! At the approximate time of the appearance of the twain, Scottish and Irish Gaelic had only recently began to diverge and hence were still mutually intelligible, thus both cultures were greatly accessible to one another, leaving open the possibility of developing and refining not only an instrument, but a culture in synthesis.
YEs laddie but do many people play the Irish warpies anymore, no! Do you play a planxty or a piobaireachd on the above sets? That is my problem with your statements the pipes don't bather me so much it is the fact that the are dressed a Scottish pipers and play Scottish pies so they should be regarded as such.
I was getting to that; it is true that they are dressed in a Victorian Scottish uniform, but the closeness of our common origins shows in the traditions, garb and music of our cultures. Does a Pipe Band really have to have Saffron and Caubeens to be Irish? Is that what makes it Irish? Ireland has kilts, tartans and bagpipes too, so what difference does it make? We all borrow each others' repertoire and attire, and we all came from bonny Ireland at some point.
Really? Coz so far the only distinctions you've made are Saffron, Caubeens and petty terminology. I'm not trying to generalize two very distinct nationalities. I'm only trying to point out the commonalities the two have given their common origins; the very names of their homelands can be traced to the Lebor Gabála Érenn. Scottish bands are invited to play in St. Paddy's Day parades, so what's the big deal, ye pedantic pissant? Isn't everyone Irish on St. Paddy's Day, anyway?
Ha! alot you know, the irishmen wear solid colours in there kilts if they wear them at all.
To put it frankly "NO" everyone is not Irsih on St. PATRICKS! day. as much as you may like to be.(honestly he is the patron saint of Ireland I feel he name deserves a wee bit more reverance)
Shows how much you know; Ireland has a national tartan and many district tartans. Just because run o' the mill Brian Boru bands typically wear saffron and caubeens doesn't mean you should pedantically apply what little trivial knowledge you possess universally to all possible Irish Pipe Bands or Irish kilts, for that matter. I was merely reiterating the oft-bestowed blessing from the Irish to all peoples on St. Paddy's Day as a counter-argument to your chauvinationalist elitism.
Listen you twit, The Irish tartans are marketed by Scottish kilt making company's to make a fast buck by selling tartan kilts to plastic paddy's searching for their Irish roots. What "trivial" knowledge I posess includes 6 years writing a book on the subject of comparison between different celtic nation's history and culture. ask any natural born Irishman what he thinks of the "district" tartans and you will soon see how ignorant you sound
Maybe it was unfair of me to simply write off your knowledge of the subject as trivial. I apologize for insulting your knowledge of the subject, as I'm not you and can't possibly begin to understand anything more about you than what we know about each other through our common interaction right here. And yes, Scottish Apparel companies are making serious bank on deceiving an unsuspecting Irish and Scottish diaspora, but the fact remains that tartans have existed in Ireland since the 17th century.
And moreover, like tartans in Scotland, they were for the most part a staple and status symbol of wealth and conspicuous consumption. So obviously the average Irish, or even Scottish person for that matter, then as now, probably doesn't have much sentiment of any kind for tartan. But my point wasn't to enable or encourage the plastic paddies; it was merely acknowledging historical fact.
Further still, your previous statements seem to be making it out like the only genuine Irish Band or Kilt outfit is that with saffron and caubeens. Even you must agree that the clothes don't make the man, or, in this case, the culture. Even a plastic paddy would have trivial, philistine sentiments for saffron and caubeens. I must say; as one who is quite interested in the subject, now I'm curious about that book you're writing. Could you fill me in on your approach and critical areas of focus?
Apology accepted. But yes they did exist that early I believe it to be the clan MacDonell's influence in Ulster that started it; the owned some serious land up there under Shane O'Neill the Proud, Prince of Ulster and (and suitor to queen elizabeth)Then it also may have begun when Edward Bruce was King of Ireland or when Elizabeth de Burgh married King Robert Bruce of Scotland. The historical ties are enormous it could have happened almost anytime.
There Irish people, playing in a Scottish bagpipes and drums band. Or people of Irish roots, w.e. A pipe bands a pipe band. Take it from a pipe band drummer.
Tkae it from a Pipe Sgt. and an award winning solo comp piper. It matters a pipe band is not just a pipe band you represent a certain country when you perform which one of the two that has this style of pipe band remains to be seen.
Well considering there wearing Scottish uniforms id say scotland, but then again there playin in a saint patricks day parade, but...Scottish bands do too, as im sure you know. Or...they could be American lol, who cares, its the music. You should know right?
not irish & no way are they scots stop trying to copy the our pipe bands find your own type a bands oh & take time to learn the tunes vey very poor !!!!!!!!!!
No they have tartans. Not like Scots really, cuz the tartan was developed in Scotland from the Irish "brat". But the saffron and green are what should be worn
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Actually I heard Obama actually has more English ancestory and to put a twist on this is descended from Richard I a king of Scotland. If he has that then only god knows whats in the rest of us.
Who? Richard I, the Lionheart, born 1157 at Beumont Pallace, Oxford. 3rd son of Henry II and Eleanor of Aquitane. Crowned King of England 3rd September 1189 Westminster Abbey. Launched the 3rd Crusade, Sold Scotland to William the Lyon for 10,000 marks to finance crusade. Captured and ransomed in Austria by Leopold. Died at the sege of Challus of gangrene in 1194. Obama related, F**k off. It is rumoured that he has English ancestry from Sutton in Ashfield, Nottinghamshire, and thats a dump.
Whats the negs for, the fact that Richard I was not a Scottish king and is not connected with Obama or the fact that Sutton in Ashfield is a dump, anyway whats it got to do with this crappy bunch of tinkers
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Why do bagpipers march when they play?
To get away from the noise.
karezza6 1 month ago
i have never in my life seen such a rabble of a so called pipe band i have marched behind many pipe bands through the army highland games and marched with them in other countries but this is the worst i have ever seen or heard
halkburn 2 months ago
Because of bands like this one people hate bagpipes. It's terrible
kaelig13 3 months ago
I don't see any prats around, but I'm glad to see your on board with Clan Theory. The Scots were those Wild Irish cousins(we all have a few, don't we?) who moved, or were sent away to Caledonia, and have been rockin' on the pipes ever since. Remember your Irish History kids! Cuchullainn took a roadtrip to study at the mad shieldmaiden Scatach's warrior's school, on Skye, it is said.
dricardo2597 5 months ago
scottish gaelic music and culture came from ireland originally also scottish piping has been anglicised and militarialised to suit england and empire building over 3 centuries .what where pipe bands like 2 or 3 hundred years ago a bit ragged and not from lowland scotland who where seen as sasenachs .also rather pretentious nowadays.answer that you prats
megatsunami99 7 months ago
@thecrusades2 I don't think anyone is trying to "steal" anyones culture here. The point I was trying to make was that the military tradition of piping is common to both Scotland and Ireland as part of a shared Gaelic heritage. The Irish Army and the Irish Guards & RIR in the British Army all have fine traditions of pipe bands, although they all wear saffron coloured kilts rather than tartan.
jdoflaherty 11 months ago
Bagpipes and kilts are part of Gaelic heritage in both Ireland and Scotland. There is nothing more authentically Scottish about them than Irish. The Irish Army band play bagpipes and wear kilts as do many historically Irish regiments in other armies. Besides the band is playing "The Minstrel Boy" which is most definitely Irish and has become very traditional for police and fire departments all over the US due to the large numbers of Irish in those services.
jdoflaherty 1 year ago
@cathkinghost In Boston and other US cities there are probably more of Irish descent than there are Irish in Ireland The tradition of Pipe Bands in Fire and Police Departments started because of the high number of Irish that gravitated towards that profession in American cities. Truth is no one really gives a crap about Scottish-Irish distinctions here. Immigrants often mix cultures.
DanS24106 1 year ago
@cathkinghost Yeah pipe bands can also represent irish british army regiments but they are american..get your own culture ffs and if your going to copy someelse at least play the pipes right. After listening to it a year on its worst than i remember it being.
PrideofNi 1 year ago
playing outlawed tune on outlawed pipes
DMR612 1 year ago
ní maith liom tae fuar. Feic learnirish 12
gaelfhear 2 years ago
wow, thats weird...they where the same uniform as my pipe band...except the diced glens...my bands are all black
ARjordanMY 2 years ago
Typical. an american pipe band with all the gear but sound bloody awfull.
AcFoRcE1 2 years ago 2
This band lloks Scottish not Irish!! Have the Irish not got their own culture?
Noddy1690 2 years ago
@Noddy1690 . mate i'm scottish with a bitty irish. an yes the irish do have their own culture. they share it with scotland and wales. its called celtic.
however the irish and scotch share gaelic (in scotland pronounced galic, in ireland and elsewhere gaelic (gay-lik)
tongting10 2 years ago
Americans dressing up and pretending to be scottish irritate the shit out of me.
and 'celebrating their heritage' is not an excuse.
they are not scottish and they should be celebrating their american heritage
kingdomofdalriada 2 years ago 5
Couldn't agree more :)
TarikJosephProd 2 years ago
sounds like what we got here is a couple of scots that don't really know what theyre talkin about, first off the story behind their kilts is red for fire and green for Irish, and idk how it is where ever your from but in America we have this little thing called freedom, so we can play bagpipes and wear kilts if we want. I'm actually begining to think that your pissed that scotland is under brittish rule.
ForBoston523 2 years ago
O Americans can pretend to be scottish all they want. AND TRY play the pipes. That was the crappiest band i have ever listened to.
PrideofNi 2 years ago 9
I'll agree with you on that last part, this was my dads old band mixed with another band, its the old Boston Gaelic Fire Brigade and Worcester Fire, the old band split and they started another band ( with no direction) the new brigade is all Boston Fire guys under the instruction of world class pipe and drum instructors.
ForBoston523 2 years ago
@PrideofNi me too mate! i played bass and tenor drum in many a pipe band but, that is something else. the bands i played in were really good. just goes to show, ye can have as much tartan as ye like, but if ye canny play yer rubbish.
(nearly said shite ther)....lol
MrJimmyboy1972 4 months ago
@MrJimmyboy1972 lol i wonder what they sounds like with tuning...listening to it 2 years on it just as bad lol.
PrideofNi 4 months ago
@PrideofNi doesnt surprise me....lol
MrJimmyboy1972 4 months ago
Truth is this band Cant play the pipes, cant wear the uniform (correctly), Cant march, but I guess they would like to.
RidseardMhicCoinnich 2 years ago
Under Brittish rule ! I dont think so. We have a Scottish Parliament and the Prime Minister of Great Britain is a Scot and so is his Chancellor (useless twats that they are) and as for the little thing you call freedom, try telling that to the Afro-Americans in the states south of the Mason-Dixie Line. This is still a sloppy crap band.
RidseardMhicCoinnich 2 years ago
first off, its not Afro-American you dumbass, its African American, and secondly, its Mason-Dixon Line, god your a dumbass. and youve probably never been to in the south,or states for that matter. around here its every creed, every kind, to give us depth for strength. but you are right about one thing ill give you that, this band does suck, the new band is gonna be a competition band
ForBoston523 2 years ago
Minor grammatical errors, (what do you expect from a dumbass) and you are right I have never visited the US of A, one of the few colonies I,ve not visited yet. When this band does what you say its gonna do, post it on here and I will say something nice about it. Aint you up late? what time is it there
RidseardMhicCoinnich 2 years ago
lunch time! Colonies? i dont think so buddy we kicked your ass out of this country twice, this day in history 4 July 1776, we told you limey SOBs that we werent gonna take anymore of your shit, and this new band sounds great, except for the fact it only has x amount of people that have their tunes down and can march
ForBoston523 2 years ago
Will you be taking a cup of tea with your lunch, I heard that tea was a favorite beverage in Boston. When they have the tunes and learnt to march are they still going to wear British military uniforms. Happy 4th of July
RidseardMhicCoinnich 2 years ago
actually no we throw tea in the harbor, funny thing is once we did it everybody else decided to copy us 300+ years later. as for uniforms my dad was tellin me that theyre thinkin of goin with a more irish look, probably still gonna keep the tartan, possibly go with a different design, and their cover will probably be a black scally,
ForBoston523 2 years ago
and thank you for the 4th wishes
ForBoston523 2 years ago
An Irish caubeen would look good and I believe there is an Irish national tartan. Good luck and dont forget to post a vid when the band is up and running
RidseardMhicCoinnich 2 years ago
lol u should tell this guy that we still have Irish regiments fighting for the very guys they kicked out twice, good on you mate
chesirecheese2008 2 years ago
@RidseardMhicCoinnich there is an irish national tartan, there is also a welsh national tartan
tongting10 2 years ago
@tongting10 And a Cornish tartan, and a Northumbrian, and a Sikh tartan, county tartans, numerous universty and individual tartans in America, in fact anybody with the money and an ego to match can have one designed for them. But hey we are all Jock Thompsons bairns at the end of the day, Cheri an drasta
RidseardMhicCoinnich 2 years ago
aye, i suppose so.
sorroy but i'm not "fluent" in gaelic. is it possible if you coud repeat that gaelic phrase in english?
tongting10 2 years ago
@tongting10 Aye, no probs, something like 'cheers the noo' nothing sinister or caustic, 'Se ur beatha' (your welcome)
RidseardMhicCoinnich 2 years ago
cheers mate.
tongting10 2 years ago
What about African Americans in the south. They have just as much freedom as the rest of legal Americans.
TWBaltz 2 years ago
their heritage is multi cultural. mainly of irish and native american decent
tongting10 2 years ago
Please tune those fucking pipes! Thats just pish posh!
mulligan7108 2 years ago 3
ok they first of all need to learn how to blow steday drones also tune the chanters and mayb actualluy learn to play the bagpipes and the drummers just do us a favor and quit gien us guys a bad name wiv playing like that .
ps its a scottish tune
wmkmpb 2 years ago
It,s a Scottish tune so whats it called, I only know it as the Minstrell Boy, please educate me. I have heard it played under the guise of a Scotts tune but I cant place it. As far as the band goes it,s a bag of shite.
RidseardMhicCoinnich 2 years ago
What idiot posted this pish .Irish?The band are wearing a generic victorian BRITISH ARMY uniform wearing royal Stewart tartan(SCOTTISH)Glengarry bonnets(SCOTTISH) and playing SCOTTISH tunes on Highland pipes(SCOTTISH).Please rish/americans stop ripping off other countries traditions .I know imitation is the highest form of flatery but this is just too much to stomach
awmascrotum 2 years ago 8
Actually the tune is the "Minstral Boy" which I think is Irish. As for the rest of your comments they are spot on. By the way only in America have I seen pipers wearing diced glengarry's and their marching leaves a lot to be desired.
RidseardMhicCoinnich 2 years ago
My apologies over thinking it was a Scots tune,glad we agree on the rest though.This basterdisation and blatant plaguerism really pisses me off
awmascrotum 2 years ago
I dont know if you are an Irish American but do they really know what Irish and scottish cultures are? I doubt it they try too hard to be Irish when only about 5 million people are actually Irish and the rest have some links going back 150 years. As to what they have done to St Patricks day its now a tat excuse to basically get drunk while wearing green. I shudder to think what they'll do next.
seonidh 2 years ago
The highland bagpipe was originally called Irish war pipes or an phiob mor. So I think it is as much Irish culture as it is Scottish.
SeanOC1798 2 years ago
true, though these are clearly Scottish bagpipes, and kilts are certainly not Irish.
andy507252 2 years ago
Irish pipes as far as I know are now made with 3 drones too. So there is no differance between Scot/ Irish pipes. As for kilts tartan is pure Scottish.
SeanOC1798 2 years ago
yeah true the Irish warpipe is pretty much a rip off of the Scottish great highland bagpipe but it literally was a copy because the Irish liked them. Traditional Irish piped instruments like the uilleann pipes are very different, and if u were to pick an instrument to represent Ireland is it doesnt really make any sense to use the one instrument Ireland basically stole u have to admit.
andy507252 2 years ago
How do you know the Irish stole them from the Scottish and not the other way round? There were bagpipes found in county Wexford that date from 4000bc.
SeanOC1798 2 years ago
because most irish bagpipes look completely different lol, seems a little suspicious
andy507252 2 years ago
actually they were played by both countries but when the english invaded ireland, they banned the highland pipe and considered it to be a sign of war, and if caught playing, you were hanged. so the irish ten developed new pipes so they could continue to play, and the uilleann pipes were a result of this
ForBoston523 2 years ago
ah very true, though the uilleann pipe is still the national bagpipe of ireland so it still makes more sense to play them during these festivities
andy507252 2 years ago
well yah it would, but i think its a way for the Irish to celebrate the right to play the once outlawed highland pipes on a once outlawed celebration, and its also the anniversery of the day george washington drove the brittish out of Boston
ForBoston523 2 years ago
@awmascrotum Yeah this band isnt very sharp but cruise around YouTube and you'll find lots of good American pipe bands. These particular guys look like they were filmed at the end of a long parade. American culture is at its root Anglic so its natural that we would emulate many things like Pipe Bands from the UK. Bagpipes btw are not solely in the UK, they are all over the world in differing forms.
DanS24106 1 year ago
I cant believe that a sloppy ? marching band video could arouse so much diatribe and trivial crap comments, and historical inaccuracies. Watch this space.
RidseardMhicCoinnich 2 years ago
The Minstrel Boy
RidseardMhicCoinnich 3 years ago
thanks!
xXxXxBalrogxXxXx 3 years ago
at first --> that are scottish pipers
can can someone tell me how the song is called?
xXxXxBalrogxXxXx 3 years ago
LOL! I don't think these are Irish people. There Scottish or maybe English cause there wearing the red tartan. Isn't that the roal family killt? sorry if i spelled killt wrong pls correct me if i'm wrong ! ciao
nickettino89 3 years ago
no its worcester fire and members of the boston gaelic fire brigade
ForBoston523 3 years ago
lol Irish with red tartans??
RagingBull2A 3 years ago
Thanks to all the scots in this section commenting on how absolutly stupid this whole "irish bagpipe" american phenominon is. The bottom line is bearskin bonnets, tartan kilts and great HIGHLAND bagpipes are 100% Scottish. And I know this may come as a shock to the plastic paddy americans clapping wildingly and drinking green beer but Scotland and Ireland are infact 2 seperate and very differant countries. Infact not entirely well liked by one another!
mustangmilligan 3 years ago 3
I wasn't saying that they're two countries, or even that they should be generalized and lumped together. All I said was that 1. they have a common origin and common ancestry, 2. the Great Highland Bagpipe as it exists today, and its two drone predecessor, appeared in Scotland and Ireland at approximately the same time, and thus may have developed contemporaneously or independently of one another, though it is more likely that they are in fact the same instrument and appeared in Ireland first.
Communitis 3 years ago
I think that the fact that their Gaelic names are of the same cognate (píob mhór and a' phìob mhòr, respectively) weighs heavily in favor of this theory. No more than this did I ever assert. And, lastly, to emphasize the importance of this, nor did I ever state that this is an Irish Pipe Band in any way, shape or form. They are clearly of the Scottish dress and tradition. However, I don't think that dress matters as much as country of origin; they are nothing more than an American Pipe Band.
Communitis 3 years ago
They had bagpipes in Ireland before Scotland, but the English banned them there. Pipe bands in Ireland do now wear a glengarry hat instead of an Irish caubeen, and tartan kilts instead of their plain green or saffron. They NEVER wear diced hat bands or Royal Stuart tartan, both being symbols of loyalty to the crown! Southie is the Irish part of Boston, USA, and these are Americans dressed as Scots.
alunpalmer 3 years ago
No matter what they are dressed in or what they are playing or where the bloody pipes come from they still march like a bunch of itinnerent tinkers
RidseardMhicCoinnich 3 years ago
Christ ive just noticed theyre wearing Royal Stewart tartan aswell. by the way kingofcelts below is talking pish as pipes were found all over eurasia and even north africa and India 2000 yrs ago
awmascrotum 3 years ago 6
Irish? why are they wearing scottish/british military uniforms. pipe bands were invented by british military for the scottish highland regiments in the late 18th century, even the head gear is British military (Glengarry) sorry boys but youre as Irish as sushi
awmascrotum 3 years ago 13
@awmascrotum well said.... and it was royal stewart tartan, the queens clan... some of them birds look rough though, they could belfast... regards, finnbarr...
finnbarrhagan 5 months ago
There seems to be confusion on where the pipes came from. Originally, they may have come from further afield than Ireland. There are descriptions Hittite from the middle east which would have ancient conections ligustically to Irish of the bag pipes. The Highland/Irish pipes as they are known were brought to scotland from Ireland along with the Gaelic language. The Uillean pipes are a very complicated Irish inst invented to avoid the outlawing of the Irish warpipes/highland by the British crown.
kingofcelts 3 years ago
I'm not sure about the plaid kilts, however bagpipes are in traditional Irish music as well as Ulellean (?) pipes. There is a scene with Sean Connery in "The Longest Day" where a Scottish piper is ashore playing as the British force hits Sword Beach. Connery's character upon hearing the piper says "Aye, it takes an Irishman to play the pipes!" Its just like scotch. It was the Irish who taught the Scots how to distill whiskey! Anything which mixes with scotch is better with Jamieson's!
okcmikeict 3 years ago
makes no difference its scottish culture for sure, just couse its in sain patricks day doesnt make it irish culture fuck them
BoHaN10 3 years ago
WHATA ABOUT THE FIFE AND DRUM, thats the instruments of the protestant irish, and Ulster
grae707 3 years ago
Oh deary me,
The red tartan looks like Wallace, the dark green tartan looks like government tartan worn by the Old Gordon Highlanders Regiment.
The overall presentation looks and sounds like they got their kit and pipes from an E-Bay site East of the Suez Canal.
Bunch a chancers a tell ye.
Alba gu Brath
DonnyMacG 3 years ago 3
Hahah yeah, let me tell you, they are soooo Irish.....ignorant retard.
JaredSavoy 3 years ago
Scottish Glen Garrys, Scottish Spatz, Scottish sporrans, Scottish hackles, I think even the tunes Scottish, but who cares...good on them
joggingsuit 3 years ago 2
Actually the tune is Irish; it's Wearin' o' the Green. And while they are in very Scottish garb, the Irish also wear spats, sporrans, hackles and kilts, and even have pretty much the same bagpipe; the Irish Warpipes. The two are so similar that it's impossible to say which came first and which lent one to the other, as they both appeared at approximately the same time in Scotland and Ireland. But what does it matter in the long run? The Scots migrated from Ireland in the 6th century AD, anyhow!
Communitis 3 years ago
It,s The Mintrel Boy, not The Wearing of the Green
RidseardMhicCoinnich 3 years ago
NO the Irish warpipes are atwo drone instrument the highlands these lads are playing have three. It makes a good deal of difference these pipers are dressed in the SCottis h fashion not the Irish one. Isee no Saaffron nocaubeen on any of them the are dressed in the Scottish victorian (bleech) style.
BlessedThistle 3 years ago
I didn't say that the Phiob Mhor and the Warpipes were EXACTLY the same, I said they were PRETTY MUCH the same, without reference to historical period. The Earliest antecedents and incarnations of the Phiob Mhor were exactly the same as the Irish Warpipes; mouth blown; conical-bored, eight-holed chanter; and one bass and one tenor drone.
Communitis 3 years ago
The only verifiable historical documentation of these instruments are carvings and paintings which appeared at approximately the same time in Scotland and Ireland, both of which depict an instrument which matches the above description.
Communitis 3 years ago
Since no extant examples of either one are known to history, since it is impossible to confirm or conclude any mutually exclusive, distinguishing features of either bagpipe from said historical documentation, and since both instruments appeared at approximately the same time in Scotland and Ireland, it is most likely that not only the two instruments are one and the same, but were both developed contemporaneously by the Gaelic culture of Scotland and Ireland.
Communitis 3 years ago
Moreover, both are called piob mhor in their Gaelic cognates! At the approximate time of the appearance of the twain, Scottish and Irish Gaelic had only recently began to diverge and hence were still mutually intelligible, thus both cultures were greatly accessible to one another, leaving open the possibility of developing and refining not only an instrument, but a culture in synthesis.
Communitis 3 years ago
YEs laddie but do many people play the Irish warpies anymore, no! Do you play a planxty or a piobaireachd on the above sets? That is my problem with your statements the pipes don't bather me so much it is the fact that the are dressed a Scottish pipers and play Scottish pies so they should be regarded as such.
BlessedThistle 3 years ago 2
I was getting to that; it is true that they are dressed in a Victorian Scottish uniform, but the closeness of our common origins shows in the traditions, garb and music of our cultures. Does a Pipe Band really have to have Saffron and Caubeens to be Irish? Is that what makes it Irish? Ireland has kilts, tartans and bagpipes too, so what difference does it make? We all borrow each others' repertoire and attire, and we all came from bonny Ireland at some point.
Communitis 3 years ago
plastic paddy. The differences ae huge stinking Marxist.
BlessedThistle 3 years ago
Really? Coz so far the only distinctions you've made are Saffron, Caubeens and petty terminology. I'm not trying to generalize two very distinct nationalities. I'm only trying to point out the commonalities the two have given their common origins; the very names of their homelands can be traced to the Lebor Gabála Érenn. Scottish bands are invited to play in St. Paddy's Day parades, so what's the big deal, ye pedantic pissant? Isn't everyone Irish on St. Paddy's Day, anyway?
Communitis 3 years ago
Ha! alot you know, the irishmen wear solid colours in there kilts if they wear them at all.
To put it frankly "NO" everyone is not Irsih on St. PATRICKS! day. as much as you may like to be.(honestly he is the patron saint of Ireland I feel he name deserves a wee bit more reverance)
BlessedThistle 3 years ago
Shows how much you know; Ireland has a national tartan and many district tartans. Just because run o' the mill Brian Boru bands typically wear saffron and caubeens doesn't mean you should pedantically apply what little trivial knowledge you possess universally to all possible Irish Pipe Bands or Irish kilts, for that matter. I was merely reiterating the oft-bestowed blessing from the Irish to all peoples on St. Paddy's Day as a counter-argument to your chauvinationalist elitism.
Communitis 3 years ago
Listen you twit, The Irish tartans are marketed by Scottish kilt making company's to make a fast buck by selling tartan kilts to plastic paddy's searching for their Irish roots. What "trivial" knowledge I posess includes 6 years writing a book on the subject of comparison between different celtic nation's history and culture. ask any natural born Irishman what he thinks of the "district" tartans and you will soon see how ignorant you sound
BlessedThistle 3 years ago
Maybe it was unfair of me to simply write off your knowledge of the subject as trivial. I apologize for insulting your knowledge of the subject, as I'm not you and can't possibly begin to understand anything more about you than what we know about each other through our common interaction right here. And yes, Scottish Apparel companies are making serious bank on deceiving an unsuspecting Irish and Scottish diaspora, but the fact remains that tartans have existed in Ireland since the 17th century.
Communitis 3 years ago
And moreover, like tartans in Scotland, they were for the most part a staple and status symbol of wealth and conspicuous consumption. So obviously the average Irish, or even Scottish person for that matter, then as now, probably doesn't have much sentiment of any kind for tartan. But my point wasn't to enable or encourage the plastic paddies; it was merely acknowledging historical fact.
Communitis 3 years ago
Further still, your previous statements seem to be making it out like the only genuine Irish Band or Kilt outfit is that with saffron and caubeens. Even you must agree that the clothes don't make the man, or, in this case, the culture. Even a plastic paddy would have trivial, philistine sentiments for saffron and caubeens. I must say; as one who is quite interested in the subject, now I'm curious about that book you're writing. Could you fill me in on your approach and critical areas of focus?
Communitis 3 years ago
Apology accepted. But yes they did exist that early I believe it to be the clan MacDonell's influence in Ulster that started it; the owned some serious land up there under Shane O'Neill the Proud, Prince of Ulster and (and suitor to queen elizabeth)Then it also may have begun when Edward Bruce was King of Ireland or when Elizabeth de Burgh married King Robert Bruce of Scotland. The historical ties are enormous it could have happened almost anytime.
PhantomPhire25 3 years ago
There Irish people, playing in a Scottish bagpipes and drums band. Or people of Irish roots, w.e. A pipe bands a pipe band. Take it from a pipe band drummer.
Maverz290 3 years ago
Tkae it from a Pipe Sgt. and an award winning solo comp piper. It matters a pipe band is not just a pipe band you represent a certain country when you perform which one of the two that has this style of pipe band remains to be seen.
BlessedThistle 3 years ago
Well considering there wearing Scottish uniforms id say scotland, but then again there playin in a saint patricks day parade, but...Scottish bands do too, as im sure you know. Or...they could be American lol, who cares, its the music. You should know right?
Maverz290 3 years ago
You are quite obviously not from Ireland or Scotland lol.
mustangmilligan 3 years ago
Does it still count if you spell "spats" incorrectly?
BlessedThistle 3 years ago
this is good got more?
3kelley 3 years ago
long live Ulster and the Ulster-Scots lol
mubbbu 3 years ago
ulsterscots are neither scottish nor irish.
they dont march on st.patricks day
tearlach45 3 years ago
Not are scotish bag pipers? I think
cefis 3 years ago
If Ireland needed an enema, they'd insert the tube at Ulster!
jacero10 4 years ago
Terrible sound out of the high notes.. they're all off!
teachill 4 years ago 3
why the Irish using scot bagpipes
aussie6monster 4 years ago
not irish & no way are they scots stop trying to copy the our pipe bands find your own type a bands oh & take time to learn the tunes vey very poor !!!!!!!!!!
pipeinspirit 4 years ago
holy shit they sound fuckin awful!
themadscotsman28 4 years ago 6
thats cuz there doing a different song that is made terrible so when its terrible that means that its good! GET A BRAIN YA TWITS!
movieboy7 3 years ago
Bit rough to say the least, bunch of tinkers on the march
richardeverill 4 years ago
not being subordinate to the British we wear what the fuck we like!
Coolagreen 4 years ago
Why are they wearing Royal Stuart tartans at the beginning? I didn't know the Irish had tartan. I thought that their kilts were green or saffron.
McAndy89 4 years ago 2
No they have tartans. Not like Scots really, cuz the tartan was developed in Scotland from the Irish "brat". But the saffron and green are what should be worn
Seamus616 3 years ago
Just confused americans not knowing theres a differance between Ireland and Scotland. Hell they probably cannae even find it on a map.
mustangmilligan 3 years ago 2
you're right. there's some americans that they don't even know where's Canada. I mean...it's right on top of the USA.LOL!
Like one time I asked to a boy from my school when I used to go to school in the USA, where Canada was and he sad: Canada it's in Asia!
and I was life! :O wtf? LOL!
nickettino89 3 years ago 3
Only the high school drop outs or those that are totally ignorant of the world can't point out a neighboring country on a map.
Obama has Irish in him, so the people here better start knowing the difference :)
hougSTAR 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Actually I heard Obama actually has more English ancestory and to put a twist on this is descended from Richard I a king of Scotland. If he has that then only god knows whats in the rest of us.
seonidh 2 years ago
I'd be more concerned about those that still act like Neanderthals.
Like George Dubya Bush! :)
hougSTAR 2 years ago
har yeah hes out and thank god! That man would punch his grandmother texan style if he need arose. What a warmongering bastard he was.
seonidh 2 years ago
Who? Richard I, the Lionheart, born 1157 at Beumont Pallace, Oxford. 3rd son of Henry II and Eleanor of Aquitane. Crowned King of England 3rd September 1189 Westminster Abbey. Launched the 3rd Crusade, Sold Scotland to William the Lyon for 10,000 marks to finance crusade. Captured and ransomed in Austria by Leopold. Died at the sege of Challus of gangrene in 1194. Obama related, F**k off. It is rumoured that he has English ancestry from Sutton in Ashfield, Nottinghamshire, and thats a dump.
RidseardMhicCoinnich 2 years ago
Barry's related to that queer? Figures, lol.
ewd76 2 years ago
Whats the negs for, the fact that Richard I was not a Scottish king and is not connected with Obama or the fact that Sutton in Ashfield is a dump, anyway whats it got to do with this crappy bunch of tinkers
RidseardMhicCoinnich 2 years ago