I just recently watched an excellent documentary, " The Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers", and discovered that the Founding Fathers were all 33rd degree freemasons. They were actually against the true God of the Bible! You will be shocked to discover what the Founding Fathers actually believed in the own words! Please do a search and learn the truth for yourself. Don't follow man...follow the Lord Jesus Christ alone!
So he bought some of his slaves' teeth for his dentures, what's so "grisly" about that? Those blacks sold them to him voluntarily and he paid them, and it shows that George wasn't a racist. Could you imagine a 19th-20th century white southerner having a black man's teeth implanted into his mouth? I doubt it.
@logik316 he was the first president that wanted to abolish slavery.. but he was fighting a bigger war at the time.. so they wouldnt become slaves themselves.
The smear masters financed by the globalist through their foundations pull every underhanded attempt to distort these great men. When does privacy, rights, and liberty become outmoded I ask these slimy creatures who slither freely throughout our society?
@Xytos haha what does that matter, they could be black, gay, as long as they werent too candyass or trannies its all good.. they founded beautiful ideas and founded a beautiful concept that got tainted and corrupt by greed and evil men. which you would call the democrats and republicans.
Sure, for all we know the first single-celled organism could have been planted here by Zeus or a bunch of divine leprechauns. But a rational person would gravitate more towards the likelihood that it came about through some kind of naturalistic process.
Agnostic = one who feels that the existence of a god cannot be objectively known.
So exactly how can *lacking* knowledge or beliefs be considered a religion? A newborn baby and a dog are by definition, atheists. Are you going to claim that they're religious in any way?
Yeah, but I think people started turning Washington into a secular saint even while he was still alive. He was a very private and enigmatic man who tossed most of his personal correspondence into his fireplace and hardly spoke at all about his religious beliefs. People often use myth and legend as a way to try to fill in the blanks.
Black ppl need to drop the whole slavery thing. Its the 21st century.. u didnt go thru the terror of being a slave and now u dont wipe ur ass with leaves... ur welcome XD
@MetalBassjunkie420 its a bad history we grew out of, least we arent germany, damn// now that is bad history. but you will have people totally unrelated to the times many times over still want reprisals and complain so they dont have to work as hard as the next guy.
Your own relatives sold you out. Slavery still exists in negroid nations and the only race that outlawed it was white nations so you have the whites to be thankful for that.
I would like to remind everyone that all the freedoms you now enjoy is becuase of our founding fathers, and the military men and women who have died for it. Do disrespect our founding fathers to me shows how BADLY this country has turned. To disrespect the founding fathers is to disrespect this country its self
Novus Ordo Seclorum; Annuit Coptis; E Pluribus Unum; Translate Latin: The 'Official' Language of The Church & State. . . See The Great Seal of Codex Gigas & The Great Seal of The USA.
I'm not left or right. And i still think things arent what they seem. I want the whole system looked at. Dem or Rep they're all owned by the same puppetmasters.
@MewFushisDad that is why the money manipulators post every good president on a coin.. to disrespect them all over. its little backstabbing obvious shit like this they put out everyday.. much like the slideshow of the new 5-10-20-50 showing the WTC collapse when you fold it into a plane.. not coincidences, dont shrug it off.
I thought I knew George pretty well, but this documentary looks like it has some cool stuff I didn't know about. Makes me wish I got the National Geographic Channel so I could watch more then just these short clips.
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I'm amazed by how you people pay attention to small things while ignoring greater ones. Who cares about his teeth. We don't know him because he had wooden teeth, but because he led the armies that kicked the Britons out of our land. Don't be easily misled by small facts.
History is in the small details. Often times they tell us alot about a person or civilization. We what he did we just dont know much about him per se.
Washington BOUGHT some of his teeth from slaves...translation...Washington DID NOT pay the slaves for their teeth but paid the owner of those slaves.
The "image" was the idea that a slave owner would pay his slaves for their teeth, instead of just taking them, which is what we moderns would think. The claim that he paid them was meant as literal. Since this happened in the past, it's an image to us today. We have an image of how slavery was. This event presents a different image.
And the Greek Democracy was only limited to a relatively few, BUT, they began the idea that we value today. I wonder how the 'EuthanizeReligion's: of 200 years in the future will treat you? You likely hate self-rightiousness, but that's what you seem to be.
And Hitler progressed Germany and made it into an Empire i guess modern Germans should Honor him for that?
Look you can make excuses all you want but you know that the Founding Fathers where a bunch Hypocrites that did not belong in America in the first place.
First of all America was stolen land to begin with and then you got some Slave Owners claiming they want to be free why cant i call Bullshit on that?
Being a slave owner doesn't negate the good that they said, or did. It just means that we don't mythologize them. Hitler and, the Nazi's murdered tens of millions, and that is a worse than slavery, especially since a few million slaves became a hundred million plus descendents today.
As for stolen land, that issue is meaningless now. It's about who and, what we are today. The invaders and, invaded are dead and, have no say so about what happens today.
Oh please...even Europeans admit that over 25 million African died during the journey to the Americas. This excludes those that died when they made to the Americas....wayyyyyy more than what hitler did.
Which Europeans? To even say that is to proclaim some kind of racial conspiracy, which is in itself, a denial of individuality and, a afirmation of generalization and, steretypes. It's no more useful thatn to say that Africans all think and, speak a certain way. They don't.
The Europeans that were involved in the slave trade. Unlike Americans who bought the slaves they (Europeans) kept records of those that died during the mid-atlantic journey.
The Europeans were a bunch of different nations, often in conflict with each other, so it took historians to go about gathering the evidence, or so-called evidence. How much is conjecture? How much is actual records?
Such records would be in English, French, Spanish, Portugese, Dutch, etc.
The best we can say is that there is a conflict among historians.
You're generalizing again. Just because it came from a European doesn't mean anything. It's the evidence and, the individuals that give out their evidence. Hitler's crimes are evidenced in a number of the books I've read, including those by Shirer and, Nora Levin. Both have books that are well sourced from the actual sources and, have been well reviewed from different sources. While many have issues with some of the analysis, I've never read anything that would dispute the main thesis.
You hane't said if you did the research to get the numbers, or listed those that came up with the numbers aftere their research.
Otherwise, I'm not aware of any German reviews, but since Germany bans the Nazi party and, displays of it's symbols and, even questioning the veracity of the Holocaust, we can be fairly sure that they are in basic agreement with Shirer and, Levon.
After all, since America bans access to slave business documents (families and companies that exist today) it is fair to say that European documents are safe to use.
Which historians make the claim of the 25 million dead? I have a book on the Atlantic slave trade by Hugh Thomas and, it's reviews criticize the repeating of information and, organization, not the evidence. I haven't read it yet, but would use that as evidence for what ever belief I would come to. You haven't produced any names.
Which historians make the claim of the 6 million Jew dead? I have an article on the holocaust by Anders Otte Stensager and it's reviews criticize the information. I have READ it and will use to as evidence that MATH beats HISTORIANS.
Nope, I am not a supporter of the old Apartheid system. I am merely interested in South African history, and the Afrikaners/Boers.
Otherwise, if your 25 million number is true, please name the thousands of ships whose records gave you those numbers, or how many ship logs you read about.
And what is wrong with that? It's a video that I found interesting. I also find the Boers fascinating. Doesn't mean I "love" them.I also find the lutte wrestlers from Senegal fascinating, although you wouldn't have known that.
Some of it was deductive, but your accusations are emotional mostly, especially that racist blast. Not buying into it. Define your terms.
The lutte wrestlers don't need to be saved, since they don't offer anything else other that their matches. It's a style. There are no techniques demonstrated, just matches, so there isn't much more to learn. Unlike the Apartheid video, which is a challenge to what one usually has heard. I don't have to agree with it to find it interesting.
Deductive reasoning only means that I'm mostly interested in the Afrikaners but doesn't mean I'm not interested in anything else. I have books on South African history, I don't need to have a video for everything.
I have books! You sound like some crazed member of the thought police.
As for proving that I'm a racist, what do you mean? Define that word. It has many meanings.
Just a lefty name caller shouting epithets for what ever reason you have. Perhaps because it just stops a conversation, with fear! Not me. I'm not afraid of your words, which you won't even define.
No, No one should have the power to do something like that. I'm glad civilians have the right to own guns, so such things can never happen. The only answer to speech you don't like is free speech.
@MrPotatoesLatkie those books all originate around the same book that was not really well fabricated in the first place,, and they built around each other a spider spinning a web full of lies and more lies, so much the truth cant even be found and it wasnt just about jews, they were a political enemy, like many many others. hitler was financed by the same evil people in control of america now. spinning more and more lies and bullshit. you want the truth you search for it.. too much to explaintou
and i base this assumption on the main thing you are defending the holocaust as just a jew thing.. would it still be as important if others died (which did, about equal amounts or more, and none in 'death camps').. no it would just be another war we never heard before, israel is much worse than nazi germany, and the dumb americans in office or blatant ones that serve them and their fake money.
it makes a great deal of sense if you actually listen to the own officers confessions, not folklore
@MrPotatoesLatkie there have been a few holocaust survivor frauds already exposed, its a gimic.. and works all for Israel, and can moan anti semite if they ever need to take control of something, that goes for all race baiting, and all this bullshit political correctness spewed from all these lies you support.. shame
@nzingamina i wonder how many africans killed each other before that in tribe wars.. that still go on in la, chicago, and stuff. your too liberal for your own good, its making you retarded.
I live in mexico, trust me, ive heard enough about "Native America Civilization". First of all there was no civilization in America, Indians were savages. Europe brought civilization to North America, at least.
Civilizaed by what standard? Not compared to the more advanced west. All humans start out as savages. Any proper standard of civilization was made and developed in the west.
Compared to European civilization they were less advanced. But lets get Europe out of the equation, by what standard would you say that Mayan and Aztec civilization were more civilized than other indian tribes.
@WarVideo they both had established governments, systems of currency, they both had great mathimaticians, written language, and systems of religion (which I think sucks both in Western and those societies ran by empires).
What makes European civilization better? They had savages too you know.
Fascist that is a new one first i am called a Communist/Socialist pig now a fascist.
Wow the name calling is the only thing we can do now in this world.
If you know about world war 2 you would know that Hitler was elected in a fully Democratic election and he progressed Germany into a Super Power thats what i meant by progressing.
It is sad that you do not understand analogies and plus me and the other fellow where discussing this not me and you so don't Assume.
Wow you really show that you can think in essentials. The onlyreason you can say that is because those "slave owners" wroe a bill of rights that has protected and defended free speecj for more than 200 years. The fact that the idea of individual rights was not applied consitently to all people was a mistake, but a comon mistake when new ideas are just being newly applied.
Play some scary music and do some flashy camera work and they can make anyone look evil. It's all part of a liberal agenda to lose faith in our own country. If they want to attack the reputation of anyone it should be Lincoln. He's the most heroized figure in American history yet they completely ignored that he invaded his own country killing over 600,000 people in order to keep Southern states under the control of the central government. Facist much? And I'm a Northerner.
This was because secession is illegal under U.S. Law. What is fascist is Southern states wanting to keep slavery so much, that they would secede so that racism and inequality could continue.
If Lincoln had let them just secede without consequence, it would set a dangerous precedent for other states to secede.
It's amazing how quickly legends can build up around a person isn't it? I think we tend to too readily mythologise our real life heroes as if any bad qualities necessarily detracts from the positive things that they did.
I think the US is extremely prone to this, simply because of the relative recentness (17th/18th centuries) of their founding stories, and an early desire to establish a national narrative thereby giving the US weight & sustance.
Washington actually was a great man. By no means perfect but he was still an amazing man that all Americans should be proud of. He was the first man in human history to voluntarily give up the reigns of power and to advocate the experiment of democracy. And this was when he was the head of the colonial army and most Americans wanted him to be their king. You have to remember at this same time Napolean was the emperor of the French empire who couldn't believe Washington could do such a thing.
Oh I'm not denying he was a great man. I was not specifically talking about Washington, but about heroes in general. Although they may have done great things, much that is negative is blotted out of popular conceptions & as a result we get a sanitised, legendary version of events. We almost get a process of deification.
Legendification can distort a narrative with some kernals of truth into popular myths (like Washington's refusal to be King or his selfless, uncorruptable idea of democracy).
@steevmac just what the fuck are you talking about.. if you are a communist just fucking say so, trying to downtalk george washington or the constitution.. Fuck you buddy. You would like it a legend so you can put it behind you.. nope sorry,, too many fucking people enjoy this 'legend' to this day, and wont give it up for some fucked up liberal professors minion to destroy the sacredness of such blotches and 'fantasies' no if they were all about living on fantasies theyd be socialist or democrat
they made a document they knew would work and did till the two party system got to divided and even sub pared after that.. it can be restored... and hasbeens like you already turning the page suck donkey dicks
@lancerralliartist I advise you to read and understand other people's opinions before speaking out so vehemently against it. The topic is not whether "many f**king people enjoy this 'legend' to this day", as you so eloquently put it, but whether it is objectively true or not. The practicality and desirableness of a legend or embellishment is not related to its truth value... and you may agree with me that just because it may not be true it doesn't mean that we must give it up.
In addition, it is not an issue of downplaying Washington or the US constitution, those ideas can stand on their own merits without embellishments and legendification. Just because he was a great leader it doesn't mean he walked on water.
Try not to dichotomise my opinion by setting up the strawman that if I believe many of Washington's exploits to be fabrications that I disrespect the sacredness of his memory and somehow become a "communist" (a puerile comment which I am frankly baffled at).
@lancerralliartist Are you deliberately trying to make your fellow conservative Americans look stupid? Why is it that I hear this accusation of "COMMUNIST" everytime a conservative disagrees with a point? DO you even know what a communist is? Why use it as a buzz-word to stir up negative emotional responses? The death tolls of civilised debate ring in my ears everytime I log on to YouTube.
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George Washington, a true patriot! And to think that we have just elected a man who willing to sell out the country for a vote. A man whose resentment, not love, for his country will be the basis of his agenda. The future looks grim!
200 hundred years from now your descendants will be speaking of President Obama in the same hallowed terms you just used for Washington. And the two men had similar backgrounds, as well as the exact same leadership traits. In his day, 1/3 of the entire country said exactly of Washington what you just said of Obama. The only thing that kept Washington's ENTIRE army from deserting was his PLEADING with them personally NOT to do so. Read, dude, and understand.
Similar backgrounds? Rewriting history are we? Washington was a wealthy business owner (via marriage), military leader, capitalist and decried taxation.
Butterfly: Washington didn't get wealthy or become a become a business owner at birth. Fatherless and almost homeless at a young age, it was only his ingenuity and sense of innovation as a farmer that saved his family's farm from bankruptcy and them from starvation. He was a self-made man. As a military leader he used the same sense of innovation to outfox the brits (I swear to GOD you would have been a Torey!) and constantly adapt in new ways to a new and changing age of warfare. Like Obama.
No ofor anything you just said, Washington stood for something, Obama doesnt stand for anything, obama is just a mirror for people to refelct their dreams on....bullshit.
As if you have any idea what you're talking about. Go back to the brainwashing machine at Fux News and snort meth for the next 8 years. It will go by a lot faster for you.
Then would you mind not impuning the name of my nation's Presidents for whom I have so much respect and admiration? Please?
Where have you been over the past 8 years as His Royal Presumptiousness Georgie The Clueless has been chewing the heart and soul out of the very Bill Of Rights and Constitution that George Washington led so many men to their deaths to defend, bring about, and uphold? Mexico?
"A man whose resentment, not love, for his country will be the basis of his agenda."
At least you've now got someone who is aware of, has experienced & is likely to do something about America's problems & to help those who do feel disenfranchised or resentful, instead of the old tricks of bigging up the nationalist ego & encouraging the kind of unjustified blind patriotism / love that almost makes many Americans look like cult-members.
I think most of American politics involves drinking Kool-Aid in some sense, (including Obama's camp). The spin & propaganda that surrounds US politics is Goebellian in its aspirations & most US citizens think it is quite normal. The rabbithole goes very deep. The US is in a rut, but a person like Obama can be a symbol if nothing else. Someone who seems articulate & says the words, however pre-rehearsed, that help citizens to think & to wake up from their hyper-patriotism & reclaim their country.
I doubt he PURCHASED the teeth from his slaves. If by "purchased" you mean "held them down and went to work on them with pliers" well then yeah, most likely. Does it seem logical to have given a slave money for his teeth? No, not at the time.
Native American called him , the vilage destroyer, i hope he rott in hell
3ssra 1 month ago
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I just recently watched an excellent documentary, " The Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers", and discovered that the Founding Fathers were all 33rd degree freemasons. They were actually against the true God of the Bible! You will be shocked to discover what the Founding Fathers actually believed in the own words! Please do a search and learn the truth for yourself. Don't follow man...follow the Lord Jesus Christ alone!
shiphrahhopeful 7 months ago
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bornhunter100 10 months ago
adam weishaupt killed george washington and assumed his role as president. trip out on that. google it motherfuckers
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deenajuliette 1 year ago
So he bought some of his slaves' teeth for his dentures, what's so "grisly" about that? Those blacks sold them to him voluntarily and he paid them, and it shows that George wasn't a racist. Could you imagine a 19th-20th century white southerner having a black man's teeth implanted into his mouth? I doubt it.
logik316 1 year ago
@logik316 he was the first president that wanted to abolish slavery.. but he was fighting a bigger war at the time.. so they wouldnt become slaves themselves.
lancerralliartist 1 year ago
The smear masters financed by the globalist through their foundations pull every underhanded attempt to distort these great men. When does privacy, rights, and liberty become outmoded I ask these slimy creatures who slither freely throughout our society?
RamsesReturns 1 year ago
the father of united states of america is george washington and him alone
wrestlingbrian123 1 year ago
like all great men of God, there is always an adversity group which seeks to bring down their great name.
Origin305 1 year ago
does anyone know the name of the documentary that talks about the sexuality of various presidents?
Xytos 1 year ago
@Xytos haha what does that matter, they could be black, gay, as long as they werent too candyass or trannies its all good.. they founded beautiful ideas and founded a beautiful concept that got tainted and corrupt by greed and evil men. which you would call the democrats and republicans.
lancerralliartist 1 year ago
oyi wheres the rest of it?
boredlikehell2008 1 year ago
3:51, replace the name 'Washington' with 'Jesus'...
ThePissedOff 1 year ago
@ThePissedOff stfu atheist
pologeo17 1 year ago
@pologeo17, Um... I'm not atheist. Agnostic Deist would be more like it. Not every freethinker is an atheist. Remember this.
ThePissedOff 1 year ago
@ThePissedOff word. the religious freaks wouldnt know the difference.. cant blame em.
lancerralliartist 1 year ago
@pologeo17
And what's wrong with being atheist? If you can't prove that your god exists, then maybe YOU are the one who should STFU.
logik316 1 year ago
@logik316 something exists that created amoeba or wherever you think we came from.. like you said.. noone knows.. so stfu
lancerralliartist 1 year ago
@lancerralliartist
Sure, for all we know the first single-celled organism could have been planted here by Zeus or a bunch of divine leprechauns. But a rational person would gravitate more towards the likelihood that it came about through some kind of naturalistic process.
logik316 1 year ago
love.. an agnostic / atheist is a religion and you are hypocrites and one sided, and quite ungrateful
lancerralliartist 1 year ago
@lancerralliartist
Atheist = one who lacks belief in a god.
Agnostic = one who feels that the existence of a god cannot be objectively known.
So exactly how can *lacking* knowledge or beliefs be considered a religion? A newborn baby and a dog are by definition, atheists. Are you going to claim that they're religious in any way?
logik316 1 year ago
@ThePissedOff
Yeah, but I think people started turning Washington into a secular saint even while he was still alive. He was a very private and enigmatic man who tossed most of his personal correspondence into his fireplace and hardly spoke at all about his religious beliefs. People often use myth and legend as a way to try to fill in the blanks.
logik316 1 year ago
Yeah....where is the rest of the Documentation?
LutzDerLurch 1 year ago
Black ppl need to drop the whole slavery thing. Its the 21st century.. u didnt go thru the terror of being a slave and now u dont wipe ur ass with leaves... ur welcome XD
lilhomie54 2 years ago
@lilhomie54 why should black people drop the slavery thing? It is recorded history and they should not change it.
MetalBassjunkie420 1 year ago
@MetalBassjunkie420 its a bad history we grew out of, least we arent germany, damn// now that is bad history. but you will have people totally unrelated to the times many times over still want reprisals and complain so they dont have to work as hard as the next guy.
lancerralliartist 1 year ago
How do we know this is true?
sogairborne 2 years ago
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if gw was still alive, i would be a slave....fuk him..
MrMarkillious 2 years ago
Your own relatives sold you out. Slavery still exists in negroid nations and the only race that outlawed it was white nations so you have the whites to be thankful for that.
phoenician7 2 years ago
@phoenician7 haha dont be a dick, but your point is golden.
lancerralliartist 1 year ago
@lancerralliartist I don't think its even possible for me to be a "dick" since, after all, I don't have one.
Cheers.
phoenician7 1 year ago
I would like to remind everyone that all the freedoms you now enjoy is becuase of our founding fathers, and the military men and women who have died for it. Do disrespect our founding fathers to me shows how BADLY this country has turned. To disrespect the founding fathers is to disrespect this country its self
CelticPatriotMama 2 years ago 3
@CelticPatriotMama keep the heart you have while writing this.
lancerralliartist 1 year ago
Novus Ordo Seclorum; Annuit Coptis; E Pluribus Unum; Translate Latin: The 'Official' Language of The Church & State. . . See The Great Seal of Codex Gigas & The Great Seal of The USA.
44AlphaMale44 2 years ago
This is all conjecture, seems the "left" is trying very hard to tear down our country's fore fathers. Despicable.
ghostseeker1 2 years ago 3
I'm not left or right. And i still think things arent what they seem. I want the whole system looked at. Dem or Rep they're all owned by the same puppetmasters.
girlphriend 2 years ago
What the heck is that ghostly face in the left area of the painting at :42?
redrainjedi 2 years ago
Wow, that is something..probably have to find out more about the painting to find out..
stablejelly 2 years ago
bullshit
urdisturbing 2 years ago
I am not too sure, but to me the art work in the video reminds me of masonic artistry.
jiwbink 2 years ago
It's one of the Washington's soldiers fertilizing the tree...
I believe the painting is depicting George Washington in Valley Forge, PA
ECWnWWF 2 years ago
When the powers that be wanted to put Washington's face on a coin he would not allow it as it put him in the status of royalty.
MewFushisDad 3 years ago 3
@MewFushisDad that is why the money manipulators post every good president on a coin.. to disrespect them all over. its little backstabbing obvious shit like this they put out everyday.. much like the slideshow of the new 5-10-20-50 showing the WTC collapse when you fold it into a plane.. not coincidences, dont shrug it off.
lancerralliartist 1 year ago
what was his religion?
greenpalaka 3 years ago 2
probably deism
humancow2392 3 years ago
Church of England / Episcopal.
Blutmage 2 years ago
@greenpalaka freedom
lancerralliartist 1 year ago
I thought I knew George pretty well, but this documentary looks like it has some cool stuff I didn't know about. Makes me wish I got the National Geographic Channel so I could watch more then just these short clips.
HistoryDude793 3 years ago 3
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I'm amazed by how you people pay attention to small things while ignoring greater ones. Who cares about his teeth. We don't know him because he had wooden teeth, but because he led the armies that kicked the Britons out of our land. Don't be easily misled by small facts.
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witchman1 3 years ago
History is in the small details. Often times they tell us alot about a person or civilization. We what he did we just dont know much about him per se.
kmcarmo 3 years ago 5
Oops. Should have watched the vid before commenting.
katfairy1969 3 years ago 2
his teeth where made from hemp
77SoUlJaH77 3 years ago
Nope. His teeth were made of wood. He grew hemp.
katfairy1969 3 years ago
Maybe it is National Geographics changing facts to myth. Who knows...
kentafication 3 years ago
Damn!!!! Washington had some tight GRILLZ!!!
What a pimp!!!
Daritto7117 3 years ago 3
@Daritto7117 i got mah teeth from mah niggaz teeth
lancerralliartist 1 year ago
La Independencia de EE.UU. por Washington inspiro al cura Hidalgo para iniciar la lucha de Independencia en Mexico y parte de Sudamerica.
anzdf 3 years ago
Washington BOUGHT some of his teeth from slaves...translation...Washington DID NOT pay the slaves for their teeth but paid the owner of those slaves.
English is a very funny language...
nzingamina 3 years ago
It was meant to be literal. All they said was he paid his slaves. He was the owner. And, it gave us an image that we don't think about.
Of course, you have your own beliefs and, will attack anything that contradicts those beliefs.
MrPotatoesLatkie 3 years ago
It was figurative and not literal since you even note that it is an image that we don't think about.
Yessss...we have our own beliefs and attack anything that contradicts them.
nzingamina 3 years ago
The "image" was the idea that a slave owner would pay his slaves for their teeth, instead of just taking them, which is what we moderns would think. The claim that he paid them was meant as literal. Since this happened in the past, it's an image to us today. We have an image of how slavery was. This event presents a different image.
MrPotatoesLatkie 3 years ago
@nzingamina why are you twisting words.. or are you trying to be funny?
lancerralliartist 1 year ago
The Founding Fathers where a bunch of Slave Owners that wanted to be free.
Talk about Bullshit.
EuthanizeReligion 3 years ago
And the Greek Democracy was only limited to a relatively few, BUT, they began the idea that we value today. I wonder how the 'EuthanizeReligion's: of 200 years in the future will treat you? You likely hate self-rightiousness, but that's what you seem to be.
MrPotatoesLatkie 3 years ago
And Hitler progressed Germany and made it into an Empire i guess modern Germans should Honor him for that?
Look you can make excuses all you want but you know that the Founding Fathers where a bunch Hypocrites that did not belong in America in the first place.
First of all America was stolen land to begin with and then you got some Slave Owners claiming they want to be free why cant i call Bullshit on that?
Because it is.
EuthanizeReligion 3 years ago
Being a slave owner doesn't negate the good that they said, or did. It just means that we don't mythologize them. Hitler and, the Nazi's murdered tens of millions, and that is a worse than slavery, especially since a few million slaves became a hundred million plus descendents today.
As for stolen land, that issue is meaningless now. It's about who and, what we are today. The invaders and, invaded are dead and, have no say so about what happens today.
MrPotatoesLatkie 3 years ago
Oh please...even Europeans admit that over 25 million African died during the journey to the Americas. This excludes those that died when they made to the Americas....wayyyyyy more than what hitler did.
nzingamina 3 years ago
Which Europeans? To even say that is to proclaim some kind of racial conspiracy, which is in itself, a denial of individuality and, a afirmation of generalization and, steretypes. It's no more useful thatn to say that Africans all think and, speak a certain way. They don't.
MrPotatoesLatkie 3 years ago
The Europeans that were involved in the slave trade. Unlike Americans who bought the slaves they (Europeans) kept records of those that died during the mid-atlantic journey.
It's a fact and more importantly based on MATH.
nzingamina 3 years ago
The Europeans were a bunch of different nations, often in conflict with each other, so it took historians to go about gathering the evidence, or so-called evidence. How much is conjecture? How much is actual records?
Such records would be in English, French, Spanish, Portugese, Dutch, etc.
The best we can say is that there is a conflict among historians.
MrPotatoesLatkie 3 years ago
Math is an international language...it has no conflict.
:-)
nzingamina 3 years ago
This is true, BUT, it depends on the numbers you use. That is where the debate is, if there still is one among the scholars.
MrPotatoesLatkie 3 years ago
The numbers used come from European ships that sold slaves...ironically.
Math rules....
nzingamina 3 years ago
Based on what evidence? Have you read all of them? Or, any of them?
MrPotatoesLatkie 3 years ago
Based on the same European evidence of Hitler massacres of Jews....it is called Math.
You don't seem to have a problem with Europeans numbers when it came to genocide but you have a problem with their numbers when it comes to slavery?
Hmmm....lol.
nzingamina 3 years ago
You're generalizing again. Just because it came from a European doesn't mean anything. It's the evidence and, the individuals that give out their evidence. Hitler's crimes are evidenced in a number of the books I've read, including those by Shirer and, Nora Levin. Both have books that are well sourced from the actual sources and, have been well reviewed from different sources. While many have issues with some of the analysis, I've never read anything that would dispute the main thesis.
MrPotatoesLatkie 3 years ago
Yeah right...as if Germans have disputed Shirer or Levin. You just choose to believe the facts based on your emotions about history.
While I base them on Math...
nzingamina 3 years ago
You hane't said if you did the research to get the numbers, or listed those that came up with the numbers aftere their research.
Otherwise, I'm not aware of any German reviews, but since Germany bans the Nazi party and, displays of it's symbols and, even questioning the veracity of the Holocaust, we can be fairly sure that they are in basic agreement with Shirer and, Levon.
Who are you in agreement with?
MrPotatoesLatkie 3 years ago
I did my research by focusing on numbers...
After all, since America bans access to slave business documents (families and companies that exist today) it is fair to say that European documents are safe to use.
nzingamina 3 years ago
Which historians make the claim of the 25 million dead? I have a book on the Atlantic slave trade by Hugh Thomas and, it's reviews criticize the repeating of information and, organization, not the evidence. I haven't read it yet, but would use that as evidence for what ever belief I would come to. You haven't produced any names.
MrPotatoesLatkie 3 years ago
Which historians make the claim of the 6 million Jew dead? I have an article on the holocaust by Anders Otte Stensager and it's reviews criticize the information. I have READ it and will use to as evidence that MATH beats HISTORIANS.
nzingamina 3 years ago
The numbers must be researched. You haven't siad who you believe about the Atlantic Slave trade.
MrPotatoesLatkie 3 years ago
Who presented the numbers to you?
MrPotatoesLatkie 3 years ago
LMAO...I am debating a fucking white south african apartheid supporter...
Yeah...you are emotional...no wonder MATH is above your logic.
Geez...
nzingamina 3 years ago
Nope, I am not a supporter of the old Apartheid system. I am merely interested in South African history, and the Afrikaners/Boers.
Otherwise, if your 25 million number is true, please name the thousands of ships whose records gave you those numbers, or how many ship logs you read about.
MrPotatoesLatkie 3 years ago
I did...but why debate with someone who is racist...sorry I wont.
Take care boer lover.
nzingamina 3 years ago
You can't name any names, other than a Dutch Holocaust writer. As for your racist comment, what do you mean? Please define racism?
MrPotatoesLatkie 3 years ago
Talk about being emotional. And, making emotionally charged epithets.
You wanted me to take your word that you studied the ship lists, but could not name who you read, so you've lost the debate.
MrPotatoesLatkie 3 years ago
Don't get your panties in a bunch...lol.
You sited some guy about slavery...
I sited some guy about the holocaust...
Regardless of who we site...we will never agree.
Your sympathy for Apartheid is as good as your word...worthless.
:-)
nzingamina 3 years ago
And your evidence for my support of Apartheid?
MrPotatoesLatkie 3 years ago
hmmm...I quote what you said and the video on your page that supports Apartheid (Dutch Apartheid):
"I am merely interested in South African history, and the Afrikaners/Boers".
Hmmm...from all of Africa that which interests YOU is the WHITE DUTCH CIVILIZATION in AFRICA...
I rest my case....
nzingamina 3 years ago
And what is wrong with that? It's a video that I found interesting. I also find the Boers fascinating. Doesn't mean I "love" them.I also find the lutte wrestlers from Senegal fascinating, although you wouldn't have known that.
MrPotatoesLatkie 3 years ago
lol...plzzzzzz...where are you lutte wrestlers videos?
I rest my case...racist.
nzingamina 3 years ago
Not to mention that you not mentioning anything is a cop out. I wonder if you can?
MrPotatoesLatkie 3 years ago
You did not mention anything...
Except your love of White South Africans...
Guess we all know what your point of view you have about the rest of the world.
Sooooo sad....
nzingamina 3 years ago
You're having an emotional reaction.
MrPotatoesLatkie 3 years ago
I have a deductive reasoning...
You have an emotional reaction...
Which is why we will never see eye to eye.
nzingamina 3 years ago
Some of it was deductive, but your accusations are emotional mostly, especially that racist blast. Not buying into it. Define your terms.
The lutte wrestlers don't need to be saved, since they don't offer anything else other that their matches. It's a style. There are no techniques demonstrated, just matches, so there isn't much more to learn. Unlike the Apartheid video, which is a challenge to what one usually has heard. I don't have to agree with it to find it interesting.
MrPotatoesLatkie 3 years ago
hmmm...I quote what you said:
"I am merely interested in South African history, and the Afrikaners/Boers".
Hmmm...YOUR sole interest on SOUTH AFRICA...whose population is 80% BLACK...is focused on WHITE BOER SOUTH AFRICANS?
Deductive reasoning shines...you are racist.
It's like ME...looking at HONK GONG and focusing on the British influence...while ignoring the majority Chinese.
Give it a rest....
nzingamina 3 years ago
typo...Hong Kong....
nzingamina 3 years ago
Deductive reasoning only means that I'm mostly interested in the Afrikaners but doesn't mean I'm not interested in anything else. I have books on South African history, I don't need to have a video for everything.
I have books! You sound like some crazed member of the thought police.
As for proving that I'm a racist, what do you mean? Define that word. It has many meanings.
MrPotatoesLatkie 3 years ago
hmmm...I quote what you said:
"I am merely interested in South African history, and the Afrikaners/Boers".
WOW..your interest is about NON-Africans...
Hmmm....
nzingamina 3 years ago
If you were born in Africa, you are African.
If you are interested in the Afrikaners, all you are is one interested in them. That means nothing else.
Good night, ye member of the thought police!
MrPotatoesLatkie 3 years ago 2
good night to sir...delusional racist.
nzingamina 3 years ago
Just a lefty name caller shouting epithets for what ever reason you have. Perhaps because it just stops a conversation, with fear! Not me. I'm not afraid of your words, which you won't even define.
MrPotatoesLatkie 3 years ago
No one cares what your racist ass thinks...
nzingamina 3 years ago
You obviously do since you continue to call me empty names.
MrPotatoesLatkie 3 years ago
lol...says the racist who calls other people names.
nzingamina 3 years ago
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lefties should be castrated so they wouldn`t leave any stupid descendants
grengerx 3 years ago
No, No one should have the power to do something like that. I'm glad civilians have the right to own guns, so such things can never happen. The only answer to speech you don't like is free speech.
MrPotatoesLatkie 3 years ago 4
Yeah like those left wing radicals who were influenced by the Enlightenment, the Founding Fathers. Retard.
kmcarmo 3 years ago 7
@kmcarmo
Left wing?
WarVideo 1 year ago
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bring back apartheid!
khattamshud 3 years ago
yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
grengerx 3 years ago
I did...European slave ships state the numbers that were put on the ship and American census states the numbers that arrived.
nzingamina 3 years ago
@MrPotatoesLatkie those books all originate around the same book that was not really well fabricated in the first place,, and they built around each other a spider spinning a web full of lies and more lies, so much the truth cant even be found and it wasnt just about jews, they were a political enemy, like many many others. hitler was financed by the same evil people in control of america now. spinning more and more lies and bullshit. you want the truth you search for it.. too much to explaintou
lancerralliartist 1 year ago
and i base this assumption on the main thing you are defending the holocaust as just a jew thing.. would it still be as important if others died (which did, about equal amounts or more, and none in 'death camps').. no it would just be another war we never heard before, israel is much worse than nazi germany, and the dumb americans in office or blatant ones that serve them and their fake money.
it makes a great deal of sense if you actually listen to the own officers confessions, not folklore
lancerralliartist 1 year ago
@MrPotatoesLatkie there have been a few holocaust survivor frauds already exposed, its a gimic.. and works all for Israel, and can moan anti semite if they ever need to take control of something, that goes for all race baiting, and all this bullshit political correctness spewed from all these lies you support.. shame
lancerralliartist 1 year ago
@nzingamina i wonder how many africans killed each other before that in tribe wars.. that still go on in la, chicago, and stuff. your too liberal for your own good, its making you retarded.
lancerralliartist 1 year ago
amen to that.
ultimatespider17 3 years ago
Nomads cannot own property, they didnt even have the concept of property. How can "their land" be stolen.
WarVideo 3 years ago
You are obviously Ignorant i am not even gonna respond to this.
Look up Native American Civilizations and then come talk to me.
EuthanizeReligion 3 years ago
I live in mexico, trust me, ive heard enough about "Native America Civilization". First of all there was no civilization in America, Indians were savages. Europe brought civilization to North America, at least.
WarVideo 3 years ago
Europeans where Savages Spain was killing off the Jews and The Muslims then they came to America and slaughtered the Native American.
Ever heard of the Inquisitions?
If you call that civilized you are a fool.
EuthanizeReligion 3 years ago
There were Native American civilizations. You're calling all Native Americans savages? You know there were European savages too.
MetalBassjunkie420 1 year ago
@MetalBassjunkie420
Civilizaed by what standard? Not compared to the more advanced west. All humans start out as savages. Any proper standard of civilization was made and developed in the west.
WarVideo 1 year ago
The Mayan and Aztec civilizations.
MetalBassjunkie420 1 year ago
@MetalBassjunkie420
Compared to European civilization they were less advanced. But lets get Europe out of the equation, by what standard would you say that Mayan and Aztec civilization were more civilized than other indian tribes.
WarVideo 1 year ago
@WarVideo they both had established governments, systems of currency, they both had great mathimaticians, written language, and systems of religion (which I think sucks both in Western and those societies ran by empires).
What makes European civilization better? They had savages too you know.
MetalBassjunkie420 1 year ago
Hitler did not pregress germany unless you think fascism is progress. I think you might be a fascist.
WarVideo 3 years ago
Fascist that is a new one first i am called a Communist/Socialist pig now a fascist.
Wow the name calling is the only thing we can do now in this world.
If you know about world war 2 you would know that Hitler was elected in a fully Democratic election and he progressed Germany into a Super Power thats what i meant by progressing.
It is sad that you do not understand analogies and plus me and the other fellow where discussing this not me and you so don't Assume.
EuthanizeReligion 3 years ago
Wow you really show that you can think in essentials. The onlyreason you can say that is because those "slave owners" wroe a bill of rights that has protected and defended free speecj for more than 200 years. The fact that the idea of individual rights was not applied consitently to all people was a mistake, but a comon mistake when new ideas are just being newly applied.
WarVideo 3 years ago
what or who was it that said .".that all men are created equal”
i think that refers to everyone... no? are you a liberal? there is no fine lines to read between there.. its pretty solid/.
lancerralliartist 1 year ago
interesting
Bagh10 3 years ago
Aww man I was getting into this... Part 2 pls
Elidragonguy 3 years ago 2
lol same
xGirlPlay 3 years ago
2:17
glowasma 3 years ago
Play some scary music and do some flashy camera work and they can make anyone look evil. It's all part of a liberal agenda to lose faith in our own country. If they want to attack the reputation of anyone it should be Lincoln. He's the most heroized figure in American history yet they completely ignored that he invaded his own country killing over 600,000 people in order to keep Southern states under the control of the central government. Facist much? And I'm a Northerner.
christmanpunch 3 years ago
This was because secession is illegal under U.S. Law. What is fascist is Southern states wanting to keep slavery so much, that they would secede so that racism and inequality could continue.
If Lincoln had let them just secede without consequence, it would set a dangerous precedent for other states to secede.
leojsivad 3 years ago
That was Great more Please..! Thanking you for this post.
Creatorisintherain 3 years ago
It's amazing how quickly legends can build up around a person isn't it? I think we tend to too readily mythologise our real life heroes as if any bad qualities necessarily detracts from the positive things that they did.
I think the US is extremely prone to this, simply because of the relative recentness (17th/18th centuries) of their founding stories, and an early desire to establish a national narrative thereby giving the US weight & sustance.
steevmac 3 years ago
Washington actually was a great man. By no means perfect but he was still an amazing man that all Americans should be proud of. He was the first man in human history to voluntarily give up the reigns of power and to advocate the experiment of democracy. And this was when he was the head of the colonial army and most Americans wanted him to be their king. You have to remember at this same time Napolean was the emperor of the French empire who couldn't believe Washington could do such a thing.
christmanpunch 3 years ago
Oh I'm not denying he was a great man. I was not specifically talking about Washington, but about heroes in general. Although they may have done great things, much that is negative is blotted out of popular conceptions & as a result we get a sanitised, legendary version of events. We almost get a process of deification.
Legendification can distort a narrative with some kernals of truth into popular myths (like Washington's refusal to be King or his selfless, uncorruptable idea of democracy).
steevmac 3 years ago 8
We almost get a process of deification.
True.
All the stuff about Jesus is also made up.
JohnDeBunkTest 3 years ago
I just don't like the ones that were involved in making the decisions to wage war on the Native Americans.
MetalBassjunkie420 1 year ago
@steevmac just what the fuck are you talking about.. if you are a communist just fucking say so, trying to downtalk george washington or the constitution.. Fuck you buddy. You would like it a legend so you can put it behind you.. nope sorry,, too many fucking people enjoy this 'legend' to this day, and wont give it up for some fucked up liberal professors minion to destroy the sacredness of such blotches and 'fantasies' no if they were all about living on fantasies theyd be socialist or democrat
lancerralliartist 1 year ago
they made a document they knew would work and did till the two party system got to divided and even sub pared after that.. it can be restored... and hasbeens like you already turning the page suck donkey dicks
lancerralliartist 1 year ago
@lancerralliartist I advise you to read and understand other people's opinions before speaking out so vehemently against it. The topic is not whether "many f**king people enjoy this 'legend' to this day", as you so eloquently put it, but whether it is objectively true or not. The practicality and desirableness of a legend or embellishment is not related to its truth value... and you may agree with me that just because it may not be true it doesn't mean that we must give it up.
steevmac 1 year ago
In addition, it is not an issue of downplaying Washington or the US constitution, those ideas can stand on their own merits without embellishments and legendification. Just because he was a great leader it doesn't mean he walked on water.
Try not to dichotomise my opinion by setting up the strawman that if I believe many of Washington's exploits to be fabrications that I disrespect the sacredness of his memory and somehow become a "communist" (a puerile comment which I am frankly baffled at).
steevmac 1 year ago
@lancerralliartist Are you deliberately trying to make your fellow conservative Americans look stupid? Why is it that I hear this accusation of "COMMUNIST" everytime a conservative disagrees with a point? DO you even know what a communist is? Why use it as a buzz-word to stir up negative emotional responses? The death tolls of civilised debate ring in my ears everytime I log on to YouTube.
wabawoba 1 year ago
I meant "death throes"
wabawoba 1 year ago
thzdg
darkodor2 3 years ago
not first comment. first page :D
EliteQ80 3 years ago
so what does he look like exactly?
RedEagle865 3 years ago
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George Washington, a true patriot! And to think that we have just elected a man who willing to sell out the country for a vote. A man whose resentment, not love, for his country will be the basis of his agenda. The future looks grim!
freedomwarrior43 3 years ago
200 hundred years from now your descendants will be speaking of President Obama in the same hallowed terms you just used for Washington. And the two men had similar backgrounds, as well as the exact same leadership traits. In his day, 1/3 of the entire country said exactly of Washington what you just said of Obama. The only thing that kept Washington's ENTIRE army from deserting was his PLEADING with them personally NOT to do so. Read, dude, and understand.
CloanLabs 3 years ago
Similar backgrounds? Rewriting history are we? Washington was a wealthy business owner (via marriage), military leader, capitalist and decried taxation.
ButterflyDragon9 3 years ago
Butterfly: Washington didn't get wealthy or become a become a business owner at birth. Fatherless and almost homeless at a young age, it was only his ingenuity and sense of innovation as a farmer that saved his family's farm from bankruptcy and them from starvation. He was a self-made man. As a military leader he used the same sense of innovation to outfox the brits (I swear to GOD you would have been a Torey!) and constantly adapt in new ways to a new and changing age of warfare. Like Obama.
CloanLabs 3 years ago
lol no
JealousInquiry 3 years ago
No ofor anything you just said, Washington stood for something, Obama doesnt stand for anything, obama is just a mirror for people to refelct their dreams on....bullshit.
WarVideo 3 years ago
As if you have any idea what you're talking about. Go back to the brainwashing machine at Fux News and snort meth for the next 8 years. It will go by a lot faster for you.
CloanLabs 3 years ago
Like I said before, I live in mexico,I dont even have Fox News.
WarVideo 3 years ago
Then would you mind not impuning the name of my nation's Presidents for whom I have so much respect and admiration? Please?
Where have you been over the past 8 years as His Royal Presumptiousness Georgie The Clueless has been chewing the heart and soul out of the very Bill Of Rights and Constitution that George Washington led so many men to their deaths to defend, bring about, and uphold? Mexico?
CloanLabs 3 years ago
"A man whose resentment, not love, for his country will be the basis of his agenda."
At least you've now got someone who is aware of, has experienced & is likely to do something about America's problems & to help those who do feel disenfranchised or resentful, instead of the old tricks of bigging up the nationalist ego & encouraging the kind of unjustified blind patriotism / love that almost makes many Americans look like cult-members.
wabawoba 3 years ago
Experience? Resemble cult members? The irony. You have obviously drank some of the Obama Kool Aid if you believe what you typed.
ButterflyDragon9 3 years ago
you dumb bitch!! what the fuck does this have to do withe obama.
richradtylr 3 years ago
I'm the dumb bitch and you can't read how a thread progresses? Look up dumbass and see what I'm replying to.
ButterflyDragon9 3 years ago
I think most of American politics involves drinking Kool-Aid in some sense, (including Obama's camp). The spin & propaganda that surrounds US politics is Goebellian in its aspirations & most US citizens think it is quite normal. The rabbithole goes very deep. The US is in a rut, but a person like Obama can be a symbol if nothing else. Someone who seems articulate & says the words, however pre-rehearsed, that help citizens to think & to wake up from their hyper-patriotism & reclaim their country.
wabawoba 3 years ago
explain more????
chirp420 3 years ago
I doubt he PURCHASED the teeth from his slaves. If by "purchased" you mean "held them down and went to work on them with pliers" well then yeah, most likely. Does it seem logical to have given a slave money for his teeth? No, not at the time.
ttoale 3 years ago
>>. Does it seem logical to have given a slave money for his teeth?
It is a misconception to believe that all slave owners treated his slaves poorly or with brutality.
freedomwarrior43 3 years ago
Yeah, slavery was a wonderful thing, and a great oppotunity for slaves. They were all so grateful.
CloanLabs 3 years ago