Why would Alan Grayson want to give your money over to Native American child molesters?

[RCrooklyn]

This Mattera guy is engaged in some straight-up bull-$hit. I've been researching this provision of the bill, and it says no such thing. Mattera's distortions are on par with the "death panels" lies (yes, they are lies).

Jason Mattera is a complete fraud.

[kirinichiban24]

Jason Mattera, Wow you are such a looser!!! bahahah!!

[DRDNIBOY]

LOL hahhahahhah The real child molesters are the republicans that hide their sexuality until they burst! ALAN GRAYSON KICKS YOUR ASS THATS WHY Y OU ARE SCARED OF HIM!

[TheForwardGaze]

Dems want to give money to Native American child molesters!!! And we believe it because someone on the web says it's true. Evidence? We don't need no stinkin' evidence! Conservatives wouldn't lie to us just to make a cheap political point.

[AUgrad00]

Alan Grayson piece of shit.

[Theonlydump]

Thank you, xylin. Jason Mattera continues his de-contextualized quote mining and deliberate misrepresentation of facts anyone with 3 minutes and remedial research skills could reveal as deceptive. He's laughing all the way to the bank on the apparently correct supposition YOU won't read the bill. Take a little responsibility for your political literacy, and make sure to thoroughly investigate any turd that drops out of J.M's mouth...

[bapyou]

Name this video 'A chickenhawk imitates Max Blumenthal.'

How are those "culture wars" going you coward WOP? Take any bullets recently? Did you get your legs blown off in the culture wars, coward? Are you suffering from PTSD after your bouts with Barney Frank you fucking coward? You fucking coward fake WOP assfucker. Go crawl under the coward's rock where you live.

[sneezy720]

I especially like the sinister music when it shows text that provides for money given to rehabilitate Indian sex offenders.

[givinitsome]

Did the senator tell him to 'get a life' for asking a question about a serious matter such as paedophilia?!

Is this America or some corrupt dictatorship in Latin America?!?!

[ThreeNineLine]

Again, they, don't even care about their own bills.

He's the kook...according to his own words.

[big4biz1]

ention: The CBO only scores what the congress gives them no matter how diluted the facts. The former head of the CBO said last week in regard to Obamacare saving money...FANTASY IN, FANTASY OUT!

[NoGuff]

That's oh so typical of a Leftist. Once you bring up information they don't want to hear, like where the Leftist-run government is screwing the People they tell you that you shouldn't be reading such things and to drop it.

[albermarle19]

And to think there is 2700 pgs of this shit that have to be looked at!

[rubearo]

what do you expect from a stinking anti american socialist pig

[xylin3]

14 SEC. 713. CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE AND PREVENTION TREAT15

MENT PROGRAMS.

16 (a) ESTABLISHMENT.—The Secretary, acting

17 through the Service, shall establish, consistent with section

18 701, in every Service Area, programs involving treatment

19 for—

20 (1) victims of sexual abuse who are Indian

21 children or children in an Indian household; and

22 (2) perpetrators of child sexual abuse who are

23 Indian or members of an Indian household.

[xylin3]

in other words it covers the mentally ill.

[LosAngelesWriter]

The bill doesn't alocate funds to child molesters like some kid of "free money as Jason Mattera is desperately trying to cliam," the bill allocates money to rehabilitate child molesters. Apparently, Jason Mattera doesn't want child molesters rehabilitated, he'd like hem to molest more kids, you know, like Republican David Vitter.

[opacid]

Liberalism teaches that gays are born that way. So aren't child molestors born that way as well? Why waste money trying to cure them? If we are gonna cure them, shouldn't we cure homosexuality as well? Wait, we can't cure homosexuals, they're born that way. Ooops! Getting stuck in a loop. Liberal logic is so confusing.

[PipsqueakTheMouse]

The section provides money for mental treatment of the perpetrators while in prison and afterwards with the intent of making them less likely to molest children again. As he's opposed, I can only guess that he wants more children to be molested? I mean he is opposing money to help prevent the rape of children, so tacit support I suppose.

[nygiants93]

@PipsqueakTheMouse

i have another method, very cheap and quick.

a quick therapy session of roughly 10 seconds that includes a bullet, a gun, and it results with one less scumbag in this world.

cheers

[Sparkhandler]

Genius, pure genius.

[MEpianist]

The world famous Chicken-Hawk, at it again. Keep it up pal, most of us are getting a lot of enjoyment watching you fail!

[liquidhead]

he shoes only part of the notation in the document. that shit makes no sense. who would benefit from saving only Native American child molesters?

[carhac66]

this part of the bill was about mental help for child molesters. jason mattera uses half-truths to attempt to prove his points, but when you actually do the research he's shown to be a hack. silly--

[leephon]

Another one of those embarrassing moments for our resident troll, Jason.

The provision provides funding for "treatment" of child molesters while they are in incarceration and even after they released to continued to be monitored and treated until it can be determined they are no longer pose any threat. Now this cerebral handicap prevaricated it so it appears the bill is providing handout money to child molesters for no frigging reason. I don't know, perhaps that's how they kept his dad tamed.

[solstice236]

You can download the bill, at this point, from any number of sources. It's a PDF. You can search it.

The correct answer to Jason's question, "is this not in the bill?", is "no, Jason, it's not."

Not sure what the picture at 1:30 is of, but it's not the bill.

[ilovecapitalism]

@solstice236 Dude, are you blind. That provision IS in the bill that Grayson voted for back in November. Although, it was appearing on page 1925 for me. Typical libs -- can't read or research.

[MortonThiokol6444]

Look up HR3962 IH and you can read it for yourself. Mattera takes it out of context; actually Mattera's flat out disingenous. Funding is provided for the rehabilitation of incarcerated or soon to be incarcerated offenders. The merits of rehabilitation are debatable. However, there are no provisions to merely hand over cash to perpetrators of child sexual abuse. Mattera brings nothing substantive to the health care debate.

[sneezy720]

Mattera probably should have chosen something a little more believable than the claim that the bill "gives money to child molesters." That's just absurd on its face. The most obvious interpretation is that it is to be used for rehabilitation of child molesters. Of course, the merits of such a policy are open to debate, but characterizing it as "money for child molesters," as if there will be a child molester tax break or something is just intentionally misleading.

[CrackerMcGillicuddy]

I can't find that text in HR 3962, page 1950. Where is it?

[Cazadorhae]

"you're a congressman sir... your life is to represent the people."

haha what a coincidence!

[cavakun]

Native American Child Molesters are People, disgusting... but people!

[KMac1972]

Grayson, the big mouth carpetbagger who's certifiably brain-damaged, carries an extra Y chromosome.

Grayson's the Frankenstein from the North - he belongs at Orlando's Universal Studios as a tourist attraction freak show- NOT in Congress.

[casademorte]

It's good to see people in my generation that aren't just looking for handouts and are willing to question those in power about the way they are trying to control our lives. We need more people like Jason. Yes, it would be nice if we could live in a utopian society, but life requires hard work and responsibility not entitlement programs. We don't need more government. We need more initiative and stronger work ethics. We determine our future not the government

[crossfire0]

Mr Mattera, you are a self indulgent idiot.

[LILVOKA]

Chickenhawk reporter writes a book (ghostwriter), plays gotcha journalism with leaders of the opposing party and calling people "zombies" for supporting Obama.

Jason Mattera, don't let the ego get too high, you may end up getting the same problem James O'Keefe facing!

You be back home with your parents in Orlando, Florida.

Don't believe the hype, Mattera edits, distorts and smears people who don't like him.

Conservatives will use him until he's not deemed useful. He's brainwashed young boy!

[oglocz1]

I don't know much of bills and such but I think its called line-item veto. People who don't know what that is well, google it.

[gsueagle8282]

Classic anti-health care reform tactics at work here. Fact check before you side w/ or oppose this bill.

What he leaves out is that the bill does not give any money to abusers at all. It funds treatment programs to prevent future incidents of abuse.

They are openly advocating a position wherein criminal deviants would be permitted to maintain their perversions and pose a continuing threat to kids.

[al007italia]

1st of all, he does make it clear this is for treatment. The same sorts of treatment that many Catholic Bishops sent priests who molested children to. & we see how well that worked by all the lawsuits that are now being filed against the Church for trusting those programs & the priests then again molested children after getting out. The same group that hasn't been sued for their part in the scandal.

[ObamAtheist]

Perversions never go away.

[abmackay]

They're not advocating any position other than WAAAAAH OBAMA IS BAD! They don't care about child molestation or anything else that won't make them or their corporate masters a few bucks. This is why criminal rehabilitation is so unpopular with right wingers - not only does it not satisfy their own sadistic urges to dominate and punish, it also is difficult, nuanced, and unlikely to be as profitable as pumping up the prison industry.

[bdazzzle]

alan grayson is the man

your makin yourself out to be a clown kid

[gigem85]

people are excited about buying into Medicare.....seriously?????

I don't think I've heard anyone on Medicare that is excited about it - other than they get free coverage. There are lots of doctors here that aren't taking any new Medicare/Medicaide patients. I guess they'll still go to the ER but at least the hospital can recoup a little bit of money instead of writing it all off.

[motorred1]

Getting a life wow. they really dont want us reading what in their bills. we all must get a "life" and not know what goes on around us

[BoboFromTexas]

Just another look at what Hope & Change! really means.

[jimgiunta]

9 SEC. 714. DOMESTIC AND SEXUAL VIOLENCE PREVENTION 10 AND TREATMENT. 11 (a) IN GENERAL.—The Secretary, in accordance 12 with section 701, is authorized to establish in each Service 13 Area programs involving the prevention and treatment 14 of— 15 (1) Indian victims of domestic violence or sex16 ual abuse; and 17 (2) perpetrators of domestic violence or sexual 18 abuse who are Indian or members of an Indian 19 household.

[bearca50]

@ aambatm

I downloaded it and saw it in there. You should too.

The Thomas Library of Congress website has three versions of the bill. Search HR 1962. The one introduced to the House does not include it. The one that was passed by the house and the one scheduled for the senate does.

[glycoboy]

this guy really kept his confidence and cool the whole time... he didn't waver in his voice or sound hurried or intimidated. gooood work!

[AKANUBIS]

LMAO@ Congressman Alan Grayson is a Tool who can say WHAT ever he wants AND it's ok..I can't WAIT..till Nov. I tried reading the HCR Bill and I got Tired of it...TOO DAMN LONG..

[aambatm]

Why doesn't Mr. Mattera site the section in the bill that covers child molestors, then everyone can pull the bill up and read it for themselves. Could it be because it's not in there, it's just another one of those let's twist the words and spread alot of BS that isn't true???

[johnhughes1977]

Is that true?

[jbaldrar]

I live in Alan "The Tool" Grayson's district! We are so ready to vote this progressive asshole out! Send us more Jason!

[OceanLife772]

THANK YOU SIR! For exposing the LOOSERS in Congress! These people voted for a bill that they didn't read and/or Don't UNDESTAND! SCARY!

[terry0710]

Can't wait till November

[gigem85]

Typical liberal - as soon as he finds out the guy wants to talk about some of the negative aspects of obamacare he immediately calls Jason a kook and refuses to talk any more.

Way to go congresscritter grayson. I'll let you in on something....you aren't better than the rest of us.

[danco35]

That's unconstitutional... to allow funding for molestors that are ONLY American Indian... what about the child molestors of OTHER nationalities??

[Riddlemaster52]

@danco35 Doy!! It's unconstitutional, and disgusting, to allow FEDERAL funding for all child molesters regardless of their background. That's the point.

[cricketplus]

funding of what sort?enhancemet?"counciling ? what?

[TeachESL]

Treatment for child molesters??? They should be in prison!!

[VerbotenDingleberry]

@marduk131

Yup, tiny loser minority.

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 32% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-two percent (42%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -10.

I guess my team is screwed, huh?

Get back to me *after* the election bright boy...

[marduk131]

@VerbotenDingleberry keep clinging to rassmussen polls. it's an echo chamber of what you want to believe. you will not will back either house. republicans have raised expectations so much that we are going to have lots of busted teabags come november/

[quizerry]

@marduk131 Seems to me I remember the left media following the polls closely during Obama's campaign and promoting the numbers. Now that the Numbers are not in his favor you say the polls mean nothing.

[rusrockt10]

lol, Rasmussen

[VerbotenDingleberry]

@rusrockt10

lol, CBS...

"A CBS News poll released Wednesday finds that nearly two in three Americans want Republicans in Congress to continue to challenge parts of the health care reform bill

The poll finds that 62 percent want Congressional Republicans to keep challenging the bill, while 33 percent say they should not do so. Nearly nine in ten Republicans and two in three independents want the GOP to keep challenging. Even 41 percent of Democrats support continued challenges"

[ObamAtheist]

Thanks for sharing that CBS poll quote, VerDing. I'm posting that on my wall.

[kronofaze]

Again what did it say again? (3) PURPOSES OF GRANTS- Grants may be made under this subsection for the following:

(C) To provide direct outpatient treatment services (including individual treatment, family treatment, group therapy, and support groups) to Urban Indians who are child victims of abuse (including sexual abuse) or adult survivors of child sexual abuse, to the families of such child victims, and to urban Indian perpetrators of child abuse (including sexual abuse).

[kronofaze]

Silly prick tricks are for kids funny he missed

(3) PURPOSES OF GRANTS- Grants may be made under this subsection for the following:

(C) To provide direct outpatient treatment services (including individual treatment, family treatment, group therapy, and support groups) to Urban Indians who are child victims of abuse (including sexual abuse) or adult survivors of child sexual abuse, to the families of such child victims, and to urban Indian perpetrators of child abuse (including sexual abuse).

[ProKid]

Lol at all the drones that commented thinking this was a bad provision in the bill. Take your own advice and read the fucking bill

[cxfornier]

I deliberately wrote the clue words letter by letter, in case you wingnuts have forgotten to read or haven't gone beyond 1st-grade reading level.

[cxfornier]

Which proves again Marduk131 how these preceding commentators, lemmings all, who don't bother to read (Read the bill, my a**!) are like flies to SH*T like the kooky videographer. The relevant sections that Marduk presents and jasonmaterra selectively omits are in the following:

TITLE VII--BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PROGRAMS

SEC. 713. CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE AND PREVENTION TREATMENT PROGRAMS.

See those keywords.."p-r-e-v-e-n-t-i-o-n t-r-e-a-t-m-e-n-t ?"  Clues if you lemmings bothered to read.

[marduk131]

Why does Mattera want Indian children to continue to be molested???

[marduk131]

(B) providing treatment after the perpetrator is released, until it is determined that the perpetrator is not a threat to children.

[marduk131]

Why don't you want to protect Indian children, Mattera? The entire section reads: (5) To identify and provide behavioral health treatment to Indian perpetrators and perpetrators who are members of an Indian household--

(A) making efforts to begin offender and behavioral health treatment while the perpetrator is incarcerated or at the earliest possible date if the perpetrator is not incarcerated;

[karenpog]

But then why is funding limited to Native Americans? Shouldn't there be funding for anyone who is a child molester? Are Native American child molesters more deserving of this funding, and is it okay to molest children that are not Native American? Huh?

[marduk131]

@karenpog Well, the problems on Indian reservations are unfortunately pretty bad, so maybe they are deserving of more immediate attention.

But at least you've admitted that the section is not saying what Mattera is saying it does. Kudos!

[groquecrushridge]

Good stuff Jason! Keep it up!!

[JohnPaulLedesma]

Jason, cool video. For the next knucklehead you interview maybe have a copy of the actual portion of the bill to hand to the interviewee.

[Vlaxitov]

owned.

[csgforme]

The problem is that noone read it. They all got there talking points memo, committed them to memory, and took them to the airwaves.

The drones bought it, because someone told them to get "fired up, and ready to go".

Its a sick display in whats supposed to be a republc.

[pitter43]

I've listened to the things grayson has said, and like all progressives, he couldn't hit sane with a rifle. This pro child molester stance of his is typical progressive bullshit. Look at acorn and their pro pedophilia stance. How Floridans could elect someone as insane as grayson is beyond me. It must be in the water.

[factusnonverbus]

Are you really stupid enough to believe there is money for child molestors in the health care bill? Really? I always wondered who was dumb enough to send money to televangelists, or buy penis enlarging pills advertised by spam, and I guess I know: conservatives are that dumb.

Jason Mattera is lying to you. There is no money for child molestors in any bill ever passed.

[pitter43]

@factusnonverbus Never once did he refute it. Progressives are stupid enough to pass something like that and that bonehead would do exactly that.

[marduk131]

@pitter43 Yes, progressives are stupid enough to protect children against child molestors. Conservatives would never do that. You're right!

[pitter43]

@marduk131 Progressives not only don't protect children, they murder them. They let child molesters out of prison to do it again, they let murderers out of prison so they can kill again, they let drunks out of prison so they can get drunk again and murder someone else while they're drunk. Nothing about progressives is worthwhile. They should all be charged with, treason and if convicted, executed. Treason is not now, nor has it ever been, acceptable.

[NHTPC]

SO, why didn't he?

[factusnonverbus]

@pitter43 :

And Glenn Beck has not refuted that he killed a girl in 1990. Do you get how people don't like responding to absurd charges? Who cares what Grayson said? Go read the damn bill, there's no money for child molesters. It's a damn dirty lie.

[pitter43]

@factusnonverbus It's obvious that you're not very bright so I won't waste any more time on you. Believe any lies you want. The truth can't sway you from the lies you believe comrade.

[kryss187]

can't you read?

Sec. 701 and Sec 713.

SEC. 713. CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE AND PREVENTION TREATMENT PROGRAMS.

"perpetrators of child sexual abuse who are Indian or members of an Indian household."

"To identify and provide behavioral health treatment to Indian perpetrators and perpetrators who are members of an Indian household--"

read the bill!

[ACourtRep]

@kryss187,

I think the point is that Alan Grayson didn't bother to read but was proud to vote.

[kryss187]

@ACourtRep I agree...i tried to post this as a reply but it appears to be its own post.

[gmc900]

You haven't even read the bill, how do you know?

[VerbotenDingleberry]

Revolution comes.

Be ready.

[Hellpig]

we are

[factusnonverbus]

Enough with the violent fantasies. Elections have consequences. Can the right ever grow up?

[VerbotenDingleberry]

@factusnonverbus Two words: George Washington. Fantasy is believing that armed *men* will submit to slavery. When the time comes you'll have to choose sides. Choose well.

[marduk131]

@VerbotenDingleberry lol. i'm going to love it when the Republicans don't win back either house in November. you teabaggers have deluded yourselves into believing that you are some mass movement when you are just angry gwbush/mccain/palin voters.

[groenhagen]

Airhead, G.W. Bush won two national elections. It took a massmovement to accomplish that.

[DrMotorDude]

@groenhagan

What does Bush have to do Alan Grayson's child-like response?

[groenhagen]

@DrMotorDude

Good question, but you're asking the wrong person.

[danktle]

Right. GWB lost the popular vote in 2000, and won by roughly 3 million votes in 2004. Obama won by 10 million votes. Deal with it.

And no, I am not coming back to argue with another fool, so do your worst 'bagger!

[groenhagen]

@danktle

Well, that's typical of liberal cowards. Insult someone then hide behind a tree. Of course, if the popular vote was what candidates ran to win, campaigns would be run much differently, moron.

[AminWRX]

And you're a typical douche. Grayson has attending demonstrations against health reform to debate with them. Who does that? He's not going to waste his time on this absurd discussion.

[groenhagen]

@AminWRX

Ah, yes, another cowardly liberal posting anonymously from his mother's basement. Grayson is toast in November.

[mobboss45studios]

@danktle - I thought only Conservatives came up with wild conspiracies...

Birthers - those who think Sarah Palin didnt give birth to her son

[factusnonverbus]

@VerbotenDingleberry

No, fantasy is calling (not quite) universal health care "slavery." But I guess you're a software engineer, you've got a good job with health care. FYJIGM, right?

I'm not worried blowhards like you will overthrow the US government (ha), but that another Tim McVeigh will hurt a lot of people trying.

[Riddlemaster52]

@factusnonverbus And regulating the right to life is not slavery how? In response to your second sentence, we conservatives don't want to overthrow the government, we just want it to stop messing with our lives. As a liberal can you imagine how much money you would have if your tax dollars didn't have to go to national defense alone?

[SourceCode2006]

@VerbotenDingleberry - stop fucking talking about it and do something you fucking pussy. I see you fuckin pussies talking about your going to revolt - well get off your old fat white asses and do it. Come to south st. louis and see if you're revolution can make it 3 city blocks.

[VerbotenDingleberry]

@SourceCode2006

ROFLMAO.

Revolution is inevitable when a Government begins to use Law to commit Crimes. This isn't about me, or you; its about our grandchildren having a chance to live free. If you want to be a slave, cool, move to an existing Slave State like China. But when you try to use the law to steal what I've earned for your benefit you spit on me *and* the Constitution; where I come from, that's not smart...

[SourceCode2006]

@VerbotenDingleberry - how many will take up and arms with you?

Like I said - stop being a pussy and get it started. If you think your white asses can takeover a nation of 300 million do it. You're revolution will be the next 9/11 and you will be the terrorists.

Talk is fucking cheap and your inevitable revolution has come. It's what got Obama elected and whats going to run this country for a long time. We just did it the smart way - no need to overthrow, we are the man now.

[VerbotenDingleberry]

@SourceCode2006

You're right; the Revolution *has* begun.

Study the pattern of a typical Revolution. They're never as simple as you might think.

Yes, it's begun. I just don't think you have a clue how it's gonna end.

Yes, it's begun; IBD/TIPP Poll : "Of the physicians queried, 45% said they'd consider closing their practice or retiring early if the overhaul then being considered were enacted. "

And on and on...

[SourceCode2006]

@VerbotenDingleberry - good let them leave. I live in the city of one of the largest medical schools in the country and its full of new students and doctors. Let the old republican bastards retire so the newly educated takeover. hell i bet the same amount of docotrs you polled can't use a fucking computer.

Perhaps if these old shitty doctors who are more political than interested in medicine retire we'll have less malpractice suits filed. They should be studing medicine not politics.

[VerbotenDingleberry]

@SourceCode2006

You really don't have any idea what this fight is about.

You will.

[SourceCode2006]

@VerbotenDingleberry all i can see is a bunch of uneducated white people raging hard over bullshit.

You don't have to look further than the newspaper to see my revolution homeboy, wheres yours at? Making empty threats that won't turn into shit. You're only solution is violence cause you don't have the fucking brains to win! This is a thinking mans games and you guys don't think through shit! ROFL!

[VerbotenDingleberry]

@SourceCode2006

I live for Irony like this...

Do yourself a favor; get a copy of the Constitution and read it. Then, get back to me November 3...

[SourceCode2006]

@VerbotenDingleberry Do yourself a favor and realize the rest of the fucking country has been fully aware and educated about the constitution. Just because you fucking morons found out it existed in the last year or so doesn't mean the rest of us didn't study it while we actually attended and payed attention in school. If you would have done the same you would have known it existed prior to your epiphany in 2009.

You should check out the bill of rights and declaration of Independence too.

[VerbotenDingleberry]

@SourceCode2006

Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber barons cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

- C S Lewis

It comes.

[SourceCode2006]

@VerbotenDingleberry

"It's true hard work never killed anybody, but I figure, why take the chance?"

- Republican President Ronald Reagen

[VerbotenDingleberry]

@SourceCode2006

"Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty."

- Ronald Reagan

[SourceCode2006]

@VerbotenDingleberry

"My wife fucked me with a strap-on penis last night."

- Republican President Ronald Reagen

[VerbotenDingleberry]

@SourceCode2006

Classy. But that's what we've come to expect from you people.

And why you'll lose in November...

[SourceCode2006]

@VerbotenDingleberry lol you just lost in march.

Remember this post - cause this is EXACTLY what will happen in November, mark my words.

Tea Parties and Republicans continue to tear apart their supporters and chase people into the independent pool. Democrats get elected because interupting candidates supported by the tea party but not by the republicans.

Tea party votes cause republican implosion, money stops flowing, republicans become the next wig party.

[VerbotenDingleberry]

@SourceCode2006

10 minutes on Google looking at polls of public opinion, and the drastic turn in them over the past year, and you'd have a clue.

But a clue is not what you want; "Whatever gets you through the night."

Oh, and it was the "Whigs", not Wigs.

More Trivia: Abraham Lincoln was a Whig leader in Illinois.

History repeats. Pay attention.

[SourceCode2006]

@VerbotenDingleberry so should i just look at polls on fox news? Cause I'm pretty sure that's all the dumb fucks like yourself do.

If history repeats itself hopefully we'll have a no boom in education and finally all you fucking primordial scum will get acquire intelligence!

[VerbotenDingleberry]

I rest my case.

Good luck brother, you'll need it.

[SourceCode2006]

@VerbotenDingleberry you never had a case to rest lol! You eat up propaganda like a dog eats its own shit!

[mwininge]

Something seems a little uneducated about bringing race into this...but I guess that's to be expected from people who only voted for someone because of their skin color.

[DrMotorDude]

@Dinlgeberry,

It started at the ballot box.

It could be stopped at the jury box, most likely not.

It will move, in some part, to the cartridge box.

[Akatsukilover14]

@factusnonverbus Can you be a realist?

[jms60t5]

Let me see. When Bush was re-elected in 2004, after increasing the # of Republicans in the Congress in 2002 and 2004 -- I don't remember the Dems being so slavishly fixated on "elections have consequences". In point of fact, they did quite the opposite. Nice to see how glaringly hypocritical people are. It will also be fun after next November to remind these same people that "elections have consequences"...

[factusnonverbus]

What are you talking about? Are you still crying about the half dozen lower court nominees the Dems were filibustering? As if that equates to blocking all Obama nominations for anything.

We (the left) also weren't generally talking about violent revolution, cutting gas lines, throwing rocks through windows and faxing nooses among other charming things the Tea Party/KKK have been up to lately.

[39Chevy]

@factusnonverbus

If it's anything like the left, then No.

[bdazzzle]

@factusnonverbus nah, and even worse, the adults in the party have been shut down

their a joke of a party at this point, nothing to contribute besides bitching and whining

this video as exhibit A