funny no mention of the terrorism since 1979 and the rise of groups such as hamas? hezbollah? islamic jihad? martyrs brigade? and the plo? billions have been spent by iran on supporting these murderous organizations waging a terroristic war against the western world and israel. iran itself means land of the aryans!! ever heard of adolf hitler? the nazi salute? goosestepping? iran is using the exact same tactics as facist nazism of the 1930's!!
I must confess to some puzzlement as to the relevance of Lebanese, Syrian, Iranian and Palestinian militias to the war in Iraq.
That aside, you are gravely amiss in lumping together these organisations as if they were a monolithic entity. They have different histories, tactics and objectives.
Hamas is basically the Palestinian version of Likud, but with a much better social profile. (Fun fact: Hamas was initially sponsored by Israel and the US as a counterweight against the PLO).
once again an apoligist for militant islamo facist terrorists trying to obfuscate the FACTS that ALL islamo facist terroristic groups have one thing in common. this extremism is marked by death, destruction and impoverishment of their own people in misery all due to their own hatred.
actually it is very simple, they all hate and when they hate others ( Israelis ) more than they love their own children, especially when they poison their children's minds with hate, only death will result.
The groups on your list have only two things in common - that they are more or less opposed to US policy on the Arabian peninsula and the immediate environs and that they are more or less Muslim (and the PLO and Al Aqsa Brigades are not even that - they're mostly secular).
Your statement is akin to lumping together Augusto Pinochet (a Catholic fascist) and Martin Luther (a Protestant theologian) because "they're both Christians."
And you still haven't told us what it has to do with Iraq...
actually it is very clear ALL of these groups have a murderous and homicidal fascination with death and murder. the plo is NOT secular it is a terrorist group of extremists led by murderous thugs. al aqsa martyrs brigade is also a murderous organization of death dealers as well.
the ONE thing they all have in common is the spread of their murderous ideology of hate and murder. something for which the now dead saddam hussein was happy to finance!
The PLO (or rather, Fatah, which has long been the main faction of the PLO) was originally a Marxist organisation. It doesn't get more secular than that. The Al Aqsa Brigades are a group of militias loosely connected to Fatah in much the same way that the IRA was loosely connected to Sinn Fein.
And Saddam Hussein certainly didn't finance Hezbollah. Hezbollah is a Lebanese Shiite militia supported by Iran. Iran and Saddam Hussein were enemies, and the Baath party were secular Sunnis.
Well, if my contributions are so full of lies and falsehoods, why don't you point out one? Should be easy enough to do, right?
So far, the closest you've come to citing specifics is your denial that Al Fatah was originally a semi-Marxist organisation. Which is curious, because all mainstream sources I've been able to find call it centre-left nationalist.
there is a saying in the middle east and it goes somthing like this.
do not bore me with your 'Facts', i have already made up my mind.
this is indicative of the close-minded mindset prevalent throughout much of the middle east an in particular of the murderous, homicidal and suicidal facist organizations waging terrorism upon Israel and the Western world.
in other words, you cannot argue with an
Asshole because the more you argue the tighter he gets, and in this case is it You
you have nothing of relevance to the issue at hand. you are just as closed minded as the militant extremists found throughout the middle east with their heads in the sand or up their arse!!
So Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld (and Blair, Howard and few other lackies) thought it would cost (American version of billion/trillion): $50,000,000,000. But the Iraq war will cost $3,000,000,000,000.
That is a lot of tax dollars.
Let alone few hundred thousand Iraqi lives and 4,000 US soldiers and few hundred British soldiers.
funny no mention of the terrorism since 1979 and the rise of groups such as hamas? hezbollah? islamic jihad? martyrs brigade? and the plo? billions have been spent by iran on supporting these murderous organizations waging a terroristic war against the western world and israel. iran itself means land of the aryans!! ever heard of adolf hitler? the nazi salute? goosestepping? iran is using the exact same tactics as facist nazism of the 1930's!!
suntzu1985 3 years ago
I must confess to some puzzlement as to the relevance of Lebanese, Syrian, Iranian and Palestinian militias to the war in Iraq.
That aside, you are gravely amiss in lumping together these organisations as if they were a monolithic entity. They have different histories, tactics and objectives.
Hamas is basically the Palestinian version of Likud, but with a much better social profile. (Fun fact: Hamas was initially sponsored by Israel and the US as a counterweight against the PLO).
ThatIsNotDeadWhich 3 years ago
once again an apoligist for militant islamo facist terrorists trying to obfuscate the FACTS that ALL islamo facist terroristic groups have one thing in common. this extremism is marked by death, destruction and impoverishment of their own people in misery all due to their own hatred.
actually it is very simple, they all hate and when they hate others ( Israelis ) more than they love their own children, especially when they poison their children's minds with hate, only death will result.
suntzu1985 3 years ago
The groups on your list have only two things in common - that they are more or less opposed to US policy on the Arabian peninsula and the immediate environs and that they are more or less Muslim (and the PLO and Al Aqsa Brigades are not even that - they're mostly secular).
Your statement is akin to lumping together Augusto Pinochet (a Catholic fascist) and Martin Luther (a Protestant theologian) because "they're both Christians."
And you still haven't told us what it has to do with Iraq...
ThatIsNotDeadWhich 3 years ago
actually it is very clear ALL of these groups have a murderous and homicidal fascination with death and murder. the plo is NOT secular it is a terrorist group of extremists led by murderous thugs. al aqsa martyrs brigade is also a murderous organization of death dealers as well.
the ONE thing they all have in common is the spread of their murderous ideology of hate and murder. something for which the now dead saddam hussein was happy to finance!
suntzu1985 3 years ago
RFTM
The PLO (or rather, Fatah, which has long been the main faction of the PLO) was originally a Marxist organisation. It doesn't get more secular than that. The Al Aqsa Brigades are a group of militias loosely connected to Fatah in much the same way that the IRA was loosely connected to Sinn Fein.
And Saddam Hussein certainly didn't finance Hezbollah. Hezbollah is a Lebanese Shiite militia supported by Iran. Iran and Saddam Hussein were enemies, and the Baath party were secular Sunnis.
ThatIsNotDeadWhich 3 years ago
you simply do not understand and as such you deserve pity because you know not what you do.
so go run away little boy/girl and do your cockroach errands for the iblis worshippers in the satanic and death worshipping cults of islum.
you simply bore me with your erroneous rantings of lies, falsehoods, and untruths.
suntzu1985 3 years ago
Projecting much?
Well, if my contributions are so full of lies and falsehoods, why don't you point out one? Should be easy enough to do, right?
So far, the closest you've come to citing specifics is your denial that Al Fatah was originally a semi-Marxist organisation. Which is curious, because all mainstream sources I've been able to find call it centre-left nationalist.
So where did you get your information?
ThatIsNotDeadWhich 3 years ago
there is a saying in the middle east and it goes somthing like this.
do not bore me with your 'Facts', i have already made up my mind.
this is indicative of the close-minded mindset prevalent throughout much of the middle east an in particular of the murderous, homicidal and suicidal facist organizations waging terrorism upon Israel and the Western world.
in other words, you cannot argue with an
Asshole because the more you argue the tighter he gets, and in this case is it You
QED
suntzu1985 3 years ago
Should I take that to mean that you do not have references to supply, or that you are unwilling to supply them?
In either case, I suppose that would exhaust the value of this conversation.
ThatIsNotDeadWhich 3 years ago
actually none of the above!!
you have nothing of relevance to the issue at hand. you are just as closed minded as the militant extremists found throughout the middle east with their heads in the sand or up their arse!!
suntzu1985 3 years ago
few hundred thousand iraqi lives? NO, its like 5 million iraqi lives according to russian n independent analysts! its a holocaust!
stealthpakfa 3 years ago
So Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld (and Blair, Howard and few other lackies) thought it would cost (American version of billion/trillion): $50,000,000,000. But the Iraq war will cost $3,000,000,000,000.
That is a lot of tax dollars.
Let alone few hundred thousand Iraqi lives and 4,000 US soldiers and few hundred British soldiers.
ruckrover8 3 years ago 2