@jose30076 Friend, you are mistaken. The ornamentation of the sanctuaries belongs to God, not the monks or bishops.
If you think that God doesn't like it, you should reread your Bible, perhaps the Ark of the Covenant, the Temple of Solomon, or the annointing of Christ by the woman.
You have obviously never been to a Mass if you think it is about "bodily delights".
I say nothing of the enormous height, extravagant length and unnecessary width of the churches, of their costly polishings and curious paintings which catch the worshipper’s eye and dry up his devotion, things which seem to me in some sense a revival of ancient Jewish rites. Let these things pass, let us say they are all to the honor of God. Nevertheless I as a monk ask my fellow monks:
Tell me, poor men, if you really are poor what is gold doing in the sanctuary?” There is no comparison here between bishops and monks. We know that the bishops, debtors to both the wise and unwise, use material beauty to arouse the devotion of a carnal people because they cannot do so by spiritual means. But we who have now come out of that people, we who have left the precious and lovely things of the world for Christ, we who, in order to win Christ,
have reckoned all beautiful, sweet-smelling, fine-sounding, smooth-feeling, good-tasting things– in short, all bodily delights–as so much dung, what do we expect to get out of them?
Is that a Catholic church? Just looks like a table and a blank cross behind it. Could be Baptist. Where is the religious iconography? Icons? Statues? Is this Novus Ordo Catholicism, where everything fine and mystical has been stripped away? Not good! Why do Trappist chuches look like secular meeting halls? Really, this looks so Protestant.
@MyBetty111 The Cistercian Order have maintained "a culture" of austere surroundings in architecture and ornamentation. The idea is to not have surroundings that distract from the contemplative nature of the order. They've been doing this for many centuries now.That "empty cross" you see on the altar is a monstrance. Behind the curtain is the tabernacle, they shut the curtain when the monstrance is displayed. The main focus of many Trappist Churches is the tabernacle and altar.
There is nothing more sacred in the Church than the tabernacle and Christ, there's no need to ornamentize more than that. You certainly seem condescending towards your Church, assuming you are Catholic.
Pray and feast on the youtube videos by BEREANBEACON!
Mat 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
PAUL
Romans 6:10 For in that he died, he died unto sin ONCE: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
Heb 9:28 So Christ was ONCE offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
I am from Georgia....I would absolutely love to go! Thanks for sharing this....Blessed be.
betsybk56 1 week ago
@jose30076 I always wonder why ignorant trolls go around spewing nonsense on videos that don't interest them anyway. Could you enlighten me?
178Lawrence 1 month ago
@jose30076 Friend, you are mistaken. The ornamentation of the sanctuaries belongs to God, not the monks or bishops.
If you think that God doesn't like it, you should reread your Bible, perhaps the Ark of the Covenant, the Temple of Solomon, or the annointing of Christ by the woman.
You have obviously never been to a Mass if you think it is about "bodily delights".
178Lawrence 1 month ago
Some ornamentation is necessary. Iconography is important.
Spartan Modernism is a Protestant invention, like it or not.
MyBetty111 2 months ago
@MyBetty111
from St. Bernard of Clairvaux
I say nothing of the enormous height, extravagant length and unnecessary width of the churches, of their costly polishings and curious paintings which catch the worshipper’s eye and dry up his devotion, things which seem to me in some sense a revival of ancient Jewish rites. Let these things pass, let us say they are all to the honor of God. Nevertheless I as a monk ask my fellow monks:
jose30076 2 months ago
@MyBetty111
Tell me, poor men, if you really are poor what is gold doing in the sanctuary?” There is no comparison here between bishops and monks. We know that the bishops, debtors to both the wise and unwise, use material beauty to arouse the devotion of a carnal people because they cannot do so by spiritual means. But we who have now come out of that people, we who have left the precious and lovely things of the world for Christ, we who, in order to win Christ,
jose30076 2 months ago
@MyBetty111
have reckoned all beautiful, sweet-smelling, fine-sounding, smooth-feeling, good-tasting things– in short, all bodily delights–as so much dung, what do we expect to get out of them?
jose30076 2 months ago
Is that a Catholic church? Just looks like a table and a blank cross behind it. Could be Baptist. Where is the religious iconography? Icons? Statues? Is this Novus Ordo Catholicism, where everything fine and mystical has been stripped away? Not good! Why do Trappist chuches look like secular meeting halls? Really, this looks so Protestant.
MyBetty111 3 months ago
@MyBetty111 The Cistercian Order have maintained "a culture" of austere surroundings in architecture and ornamentation. The idea is to not have surroundings that distract from the contemplative nature of the order. They've been doing this for many centuries now.That "empty cross" you see on the altar is a monstrance. Behind the curtain is the tabernacle, they shut the curtain when the monstrance is displayed. The main focus of many Trappist Churches is the tabernacle and altar.
jose30076 2 months ago
@MyBetty111
There is nothing more sacred in the Church than the tabernacle and Christ, there's no need to ornamentize more than that. You certainly seem condescending towards your Church, assuming you are Catholic.
jose30076 2 months ago
Pray and feast on the youtube videos by BEREANBEACON!
Mat 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
PAUL
Romans 6:10 For in that he died, he died unto sin ONCE: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
Heb 9:28 So Christ was ONCE offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
HopeforCatholics 5 months ago
@HopeforCatholics Why do we call our own Dad's Father? It is even on my birth certificate.
betsybk56 1 week ago
Awesome Dude!!!
Fantasticmonastic 7 months ago