It's an interesting idea, I'm not sure it would be cost effective though. There's no reason it could not grow good food but would'nt it be easier and cheaper to build rooftop greenhouses on existing buildings?
the problem is location 5 acres of land in NY city runs $50-100million go 100 miles out side the city and it drops there is a 190acre property for sale at $3.6 million. don't take me wrong I like the general concept I just don't see how it could be made with out breaking the bank when the final cost after building would be probably close to or over $200m to have less space then you can buy for $3-$4m add in the cost of building green houses and hydroponics say $10m total just doesn't add up
@curingaging00 finding large enough abandoned building in good enough shape to renovate might be difficult add in the cost of restructuring the building assuming you want to use natural sunlight would cost a small fortune in old large masonry buildings since their strength is in the skin of the building and if you use artificial light you get less yields at much higher cost then sunlight which is additional cost to over come probably better suited to more space restricted areas then US
This is really great. Gas wont be used to fuel tractors and cars maintaining fields and driving produce to and from farms and cities.
It seems some people are nervous about eating food that's not grown from soil. Well the benefit is NOTHING compared to the payoff. It will still taste the same I'm sure. Also, apparently they can naturally grow these products three times as fast, because it wont be subject to the earth's seasons, but the temperature and atmosphere specific to the plant 24/7
I agree with Beef1188. I am not a green/global warming believer or propronent, but this vertical farming idea has a place in our world today. Who cares how the vegetables, etc. are grown so long as they end up fresh, organic and easily accessible in the end?
@LunaMartinMI though you might go to this building to shop, instead of a supermarket. maybe. to keep jobs open that may not happen, but it still could.
Growing food in water instead of soil not appealing?
What the fuck is wrong with these people? Are they retards or something? What does it matter if it grows in a building or on a field? Growing in water or growing in soil is the same fucking thing!
If anything, vertical farms wouldn't need pesticides, wouldn't need fertilizer and wouldn't need 10cal. of oil for every calorrie they produce!
@Beef1188 Change is scary for alot of people. But this is the wave of the future. Perhaps a great palce to start would be....New Orleans. in 2005, the city was struck by a hurricane, and thousands of homes were destroyed. But those resdiential zones were retaken. The people left, or moved to other parts of the city. Thats thousands of acres of land available. Now what would happen if a company got some investors and built several multi-story farms, just outside of the city?
@overusedoxymoron2003 Im not talking about fear, im talking about opinionated dickweeds who say something from the top of their heads its as if they worked for years on it.
ok so i did some math and by what he said in the video. if we get a 30 story building covering 5 acres to feed 50,000 people, that means for the current 6.9 billion people we would need about 138,000 30-story buildings and if you put them all together side by side that's 1,078.125 sq mi. you can put the entire thing in Rhode island and still have 135 sq mi left
@lycanzer Awesome math. Now bring that to the United Nations with a budget requirment and see how long it takes. ^_- Remember, despite how awesome the idea sounds, the bottom line is how much will something like that costs
after learning how much cleaner the food grown inside can be, how much less fossil fuels and water it takes to grow them, and reducing travel time, this is definainatly a wonderful idea. exspecially in areas where it is impossible or difficult to grow food outside and areas that should be conservative with there water resources.(populated desert areas)
This should be tried on a small scale first over a period of several years in order to fully understand the implications to society. I hope it succeeds.
These types of endeavors are important, because as Man starts to colonize the Universe, the lessons learnt here will be invaluable.
traditional agriculture is not and has never been natural. you dont see monocultures in nature. and is still the biggest cause of major climate change and the destruction of our planet.
WOW!!! And they say all the idiots are down south. These farmers are feeding the plants the same nutrients they they would receive from soil. This would be perfect for any large city. Very inspiring.
Eliminating the animals would be the ideal situation... We don't "need" the "pork" or other flesh "foods". Great idea ---- Just leave the animals out of the equation!
Thos against it are literally ignorant of how their CURRENT food is grown... they hysterically shy away from anything grown unnaturally, yet 92% of food in cities, including organic farm setups in the street get their seeds and most supplies to farm from companies who reduce the efficiency by intent, to keep control of the industry such as MONSANTO. This would create ludicrous surplus, hence finally granting cities a method of exportation of goods and actual revenue for cities themselves!!!
Surprisingly, vertical farms promise much healthier food than the pesticide ridden crap grown in the ground today. I have also heard of potential for increasing the taste of the food through artificial selection or some weird process but that's nothing I am willing to confirm for sure. 2 Downsides: cost and tremendous loss of jobs. But we have the resources and shouldn't we strive towards automation? This may (along with other advancements) bring capitalism itself into obsolescence.
@MacabreManifesto Yeah you can change the taste because you can develop the flavinoids (spell check)
by flushing a plant, and allowing it to be filled with absolutely nothing but distilled water when harvested. Where as normal plants have lingering (and this isn't always bad), but have lingering nutrients... They could potentially ad vitamins,,, anything to not only make plants taste good but be packed with nutrients.. Imagine only having to eat one vegi all day to get daily vitamins!!!!!
@juicyjuicejosh What are you talking about? Distilled water doesn't grow plants. The nutrients come from the minerals in water. By definition, distilled water has no minerals.
@MacabreManifesto Im talking about flushing your plants.. to get the nutrients out before harvest! Most "Good Farmers" do this. It clears all the salts and Nutrients out of the plant, so you don't taste them when you eat them :)!
@MacabreManifesto Oh I failed to mention cause you kinda dont know the processes at all.... You don't use the distilled water until you go to harvest.. obviously you need nutrients while the plant is GROWING" this process is only done when you are going to harvest and consume! Obviously you want some nutrients... specific nutrients still in the plant depending on what the plant is.. Like you'll see th leaves go yellow, so if its a leafy vegetable u obviously continue to use nitrogen!
@MacabreManifesto I have heard of people who grow using nothing but co2 in the air and water, but I can't um.. I can't say I believe thats gonna result in healthy plants.. And in such growing the plant would get it's nutrients through photosyntheseis.. meaning the leaves would use CO2 to make sugars and grow.. I think thats a bullshit technique, but in theory... I guess it could work with some plants!
I watch this video everyday and everytime those opposed come on and say its un-natural makes me want to punch my computer.
No Disease
Control over nutrient intake
Less diesel to transport and grow produce
3/4 less water used
Un-Educated Peoples
Its 2011 people who dont realize we arent gonna have a futer unless we do this type of thing are un-natural and Need to GTFO of this country cause you;re holding the smart people back and suffocating progress!
Personally, I would love to see at least one of these "farmscrapers" become financially successful in the near future. I mean, if the global population continues to grow, then I'd say that erecting several of these babies in areas where demand for food is great would be a much better alternative than transforming natural habitats into more farmland. Of course, several challenges need to be overcome in order for these to be considered profitable and affordable, most notably power requirements.
People who are against this must be completely un educated. You can grow hydro these days fully organic, and most do... the only difference is LESS WASTE. LESS water used. Less Nutrients. LESS ENERGY TO GROW.
That Farmer lady pissed me off... "It's UN-NATURAL"! Ohhh ok... Smog is natural..
There are more Cancer causing agents in farm crops than HYDRO BTW....
So if you dont smoke and get cancer when you eat healthy and exercise... it's because you're consuming PESTICIDES from HEALTHY FARM FOOD!
Requires either sunlight, which you simply will not have in towers, or continuous artificial UV light, which will make the food many times more costly than anyone will be willing to pay. This is why vertical farming projects will never get past the first feasibility study. It is a fundamental problem of physics. There are a bunch of green solutions that look good until you actually plan it. Water-powered boats! Perpetual-motion machines!
It is some how an ancient idea. In our farm, in Portugal, we do produce on modular vertical system, which we had developed and patented. It is beyond academics, it is REAL!
One thing I hope they are thinking about are Bees. Cause this cant work without bees. So Im wondering how their release, collection, and containment will work.
This is the future. New York is the perfect place to test it out too. But we gotta do it before another country does it.
if you like vertical farming, be sure to check out the vertical farm blog and spread the word. with all this talk of reshaping cities for the future, etc, I'm convinced we need to consider how we eat as a way of reducing our impact on the natural world. let's bring about the next revolution in agriculture
has anyone bothered to look up hydroponics before you make an assumption about it being unnatural? The plants still grow in a sub straight made from perlite, gravel, mineral wool, or coconut husk. Nutrient solution water is then timed and slow dripped into the plants. The nutrients are the same kind of nutrients you find in soil, nothing toxic like the GMO crap that most of you probably dont even know your eating now. And by growing it inside like this it would control the pest = less pesticide.
the only thing i don't agree with this concept is raising chickins and farm animals in them what if one of them goes loose how much damage can a cow do if they became loose. farm animals should be in regular farms and just plants should be held in these buildings.
the only thing i don't agree with is raising chickins and farm animals in them what if one of them goes loose how much damage can a cow do if they became loose. farm animals should be in regular farms and just plants should be held in these buildings.
@skyclaw441 LOL the corporations are the ones doing this! This way they don't have to pay truckers and farm hands nor buy trucks or pay for fuel. Robot arms will do most of the planting and harvesting. With retail sales in the ground floor and electrovan home delivery's, only plastic bags for packaging. Few employees and people cant go into the field and steal food at night. Local police take care of protesters protesting the new "square"(gene engendered) pig!
@cannadanarchy - Yeah , I too agree with this new concept. It's new fresh and interesting too. Can help the urban growers a lot who like to have a kitchen garden at their terraces and like.
unnatural?think that one lady has been watching to many vampire movies.with food prices the way they are we need more hydroponics, we need more farming area which is skyward.I have seen to many people go hungry just here in America and when did we become the third world country?we need to make use of what we have to feed the population or worse case scenario drop a few nukes around the world to thin out the human herd so food wont be an issue
@jeffsandychelsea idunno, have you ever tasted the differece between vegetables grown in real dirt and vegetable grown in potting soil? What the animal eats makes a difference in how it tastes, and it's nutritional value, and the same thing appplies for plants.
@IamMeredithK Even so, you can more closely control hydroponic plants and get bigger and better varieties. So yes, maybe you COULD tell the difference. The hydroponics one would be BETTER. ;3
Vertical farming could be powered by solar and wind. The building could have most of its walls constructed by solar powers on its sides and turbines in the ceiling. It is still possible for them to use soil to grow organic food. They just need good ventilation and open windows. I would still like to see traditional organic farms thought. Corporate fields should be replaced by organic farming.
@dragonsowl I would think the idea has been around for longer then that, its not new but the cost to implement it would be higher then current economics allow.
It's already happening.. check out Valcent's VertiCrop to see a real vertical farming system that grows organic crops with 5% water use and 5 times yield.
I realy believe vertical agriculture will come into its own in towns and cities. Schools, hospitals and housing estates could have their own vertifarms, tended by a new generation of vertical farmers.
No pesticides, no pollution, no soil and no weather concerns.
In less than 20 years sustainable urban vertical farms will be commonplace
and that it is perfectly acceptable to goto the garden store and purchase a bag of "cow POOP" mulch and plant your garden strawberries in it followed by a little sprinking of chicken "poop" fertilizer and a daily squirt of "worm POOP" compost tea...and then eat them..lol
Interesting that people who have zero idea of what dirt is comprised of would say they have a problem with vertical or hydroponically grown foods.kinda like the guy who wouldnt eat wild strawberries because he said birds "pooped" on them. lol..like if somehow wild birds were educated not to "poop" on the garden variety. lol..amazing.
Inside the pipe there will be a shelf like putting a bullet system inside but this is in long rectagular square shape and its flat. Or ad a shelf that goes up and down like it is pushing towards you.
A standing pipe like tunnel farming is also nice and in the middle there is a elivator that goes around left or right and up and down this are maybe for future grape planting so the plant should be crawling? Pipe farming laying flat and the pipe should be spinning like a wheel but very very slow it has a bridge like system going inside the center under the bridge it has a light for sun and the spray watering etc. it is just beside the bridge when its done
My concern in this issue is of increased the food supply = increased population. As we try to tackle "hunger" by growing more human food.. human population increases. Thus more agriculture. And on and on.. Where is the balance I dont have answers to this.. it is just a thought
UrbanHomesteadFL you sound like an enviro-nazi. I don't mean to insult. Who taught you this way of thinking? school and TV perhaps?
Understand the control system and you understand pathological thinking used by our psycopathic leaders. It is all lies and circus's for folk who will not think on their own.
Its hard not being offended being likened to a "nazi". Sure you didnt intended it? I haven't watch/owned a TV for 10 years. Watch my channel. I grow 70% of our food, 3 chickens, worms and bee's soon. All inside the city. No teacher, preacher or leader questions agriculture.. its social suicide. Your reply didnt deepen understanding.. quite the oppsite, You are using the same tatics as the "control" system to limit discussion & questioning Why you were so threatened by my comments.
I must say, I am quite sorry for my outburst. You really put me in my place.
Went to your channel as you suggested and watched Selfist Enviromentalism. I'm impressed with your philosophy, your actions, and your outlook. Really wished I'd seen that before commenting. As for why, you asked, was I threatened by your comments. Not really, at least conciously at the time. I do believe the whole environmental movement is co-opted, and they hate people. That's a real threat.
UrbanHomesteadFL If I'd seen your channel first I may have responded thusly: I think we must be careful not to use mechanistic cause and effect imagery in use by the enviro-nazis. Like for instance more food= more people. We were all raised and taught this Malthusian way of thinking there isn't enough to go around. Part of the control system.
I believe humans, after regaining their minds, some freedom, and balance with nature, will start on the path of self control, and will not breed willy-nilly like the rutting beasts our authorities would have us believe. You sir are well down that path.
vertical farming is as big as the wheel people and only photobioreactors come close to matching them in genius. mankind has problems 1. we use carbon moving it from syncs to the air. 2. we dont have enough food. hydroponics (about half ur food is anyway) doesnt need to be inorganic bio waste can be used (aquaponics) . fields then can be turned into forests that sync more than a tonne/co2 per tree known as sequestration... this is gunna be forced upon u soon it wont be a chouce
May b the idea is new and exciting but what abt . The co2 the plants will throw up in the air? In my opinion this is too vague and a lot of study is still req. In order for this to b practical.
Plants absorb co2. It is humans who release co2, not plants. This new idea could help limit the co2 released from fossil fuels. We are a long ways away from hydrogen fuel cell technology and 100% electric vehicles being fully utilized. Fossil fuels are going to be around for quite a while due to standards of living increasing around the world. Even if we have hybrids taking over from regular internal combustion engines, fossil fuels are going to be used. Why not somehow sequester the co2 cont...
from automobiles like the coal industry does and put it in the vertical farms? This increase of co2 in the scientifically controlled environment of the vertical farm will help increase plant growth in the farm. More yield means more food for the world, thus less hunger and less co2 in the Earth's atmosphere means gobal warming due to greenhouse gases from human interaction is signicantly reduced. Its a win-win.
hydroponic system consume huge amount of power. There is no way that the building could be produce power as much power as it consumes. Therefore this idea is not so green.
1 square meter of solar panels would never be able to supply the power for 1 square meter hydroponic garden. I'm not saying that vertical farming is a bad idea but having dedicated farm building is. For example having small green houses and solar panels on the top of all building would be a better idea.
in response to the UV lighting dillemma, please search "omega garden". don't forget that VF is still in the birth stage. the first muskets had countless problems when they first came and so does VF but the basic concept is so incredible that we cannot give up on it just because it is not perfect. also, you can use the sunlight from windows and use reflection and refraction.
Lets say hydroponics is not feasible due to the amount of power it takes up. They could instead use the dirt from farms that no longer would be used. This idea would solve the power problem and help farmers still make a decent living. They could sell the dirt and then have large ponds. In the place of growing corn, soybeans, etc... they could still participate in the agricultural industry by farming fish.
indeed, omega garden has perfected it, but I think this can be perfected even 10 times than what omega garden or Dickson have been pushing.
I have a few ideas myself on how to perfect this concept, which would dramatically bring the cost down, but would rather just lave it in limbo for now.
But this will be needed immediately as the world population grows exponentially
lmao iv worked at maccas m8 its all dehydrated onions, processed meat and cheese, bread with addatives, fat filled meat which is drenched with fat. deep fryed chicken, microwaved meat, pancakes, and other things, rerefrigerated fruits and veg, deep fryed fish, chicken and chips, fat filled icecream and sundays and more its grose lol but if you like it, not my problem im not gona stop you
Hydroponics is natural. Plants do not take in nutrients in a solid form. Soil acts as a reservoir for nutrients until the crop is watered. The nutrients are then absorbed into the water from the soil, and then into the plant in liquid form. Hydroponics just gets rid of this by supplying the plant from the very start with nutrient-enriched water; straight to the roots without soil obscuring them. We are simply making nature more efficient, but it is nature and natural nonetheless.
That is completely irrelevant. Botanically speaking, a tomato plant could grow in a pond, but because it does not, does not mean it could not. That's very illogical thinking.
Most of the advocates I know of preventing against global warming are hesitant to invest in nuclear energy to greatly reduce our carbon, and don't acknowledge the fact that global warming would increase resources such as land fit for farming, while it's now too cold to sustain such agriculture. If global warming's your reason for going green don't buy it, but imagine how much fresher the food will be if grown locally compare to losing nutritional value as an 18-wheeler's payload to market.
That depends on where you live. Some think that Northern countries may benefit in some ways from global warming. However, they also think that weather will become more erratic, with more droughts, flooding, etc. and the resulting starvation, political destabilization that these would cause.
So really, slightly better growing conditions won't make up for the other changes, no matter where you live (i.e. increasing humanitarian aid, political and military costs, etc.).
Loved this idea when I first heard it months back! It'd cut back on the amount of farm land needed, reduce costs of production, and of transporting the goods. It'd make fresh produce immediately available to city populations. But! All this food needs to be free! Otherwise we're not really feeding everyone, are we?
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this is NOT the future. hydroponics is just force feeding plants by chemical means. organically grown produce grown from a nearby farm is the way to go. hydroponics should be limited to potheads wanting to grow their weed in their bedroom.
You can feed hydroponic plants with fish waste from a pond. That's what I do. A small organic farm may be great for a little group of people but in the FUTURE the population will be far too large to grow in farms. You also cut down fuel costs and import costs by growing the food in the cities that need them. There are TONS of natural hydroponics. it's not just for "pot heads"
I Totally agree... I would much rather have lethal DNA altering chemicals sprayed onto my food than have it grown in a pest free environment... I mean its only natural.
And we're moving away from social Darwinism because?
good point! TOTAL CONTROL! sounds scarey Like something bad is should happen like in every sci-fi movie. But al joking aside It may be the only way to feed all the people. I turned my entire backyard into a garden. Its alot of work for some salad and some tomatoes. Its free therapy from "total control" and la traffic. thanks
not really, indoor gardening makes pest control alot easier. since you can control all and filter all incoming air. if you had too you could even shut down ventilation and fog a floor at time or even the entire building.
why not use the tops of buildings, or putting greenhouse spaces into building plans like courtyards? instead of traditional aquaponics why not use water enriched by fish in indoor ponds? my main problem with the idea of a skyscraper farm is that it is not truly sustainable. real small scale farms can maintain themselves with little work and the right planning, while those would need constant energy use and maintenance, and the trend is that unnatural things end up being unnatural for our health.
Come on people wake up its Satan he wants you to think the world is orderly and completely logical. No its not god left two teenagers here who got tricked by a talking snake with legs. The mans name was bull the womans name was SHIT! Dont listen to the fossil records or the Illuminati scientists here because they devil worship with the reptilians in a conspiracy to start a NEW WORLD ORDER from the Freemasons founder NIMROD!
Although both women interviewed thought the idea of vertical farming was un-natural, humanity may be forced into it because of the instability of 'the weather'.
My question is whether or not hydroponic growing can deliver a product that has superior nutritional value... can it?
There sure are alot of nay sayers on here about this, what are you people on the governments payroll? they are the only ones that stand to loose from this, we have nothing to loose and everything to gain. Didn't you people hear him say that 1/3 of our fuel is being used to produce our food? and that this idea would bring that down to zero. who do you think would be hardcore against this idea? Hummmm....... Hydo produced food is the Healthiest food we can get people. WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pot farmers are so far ahead in the hydroponics field than anyone else. I actually smoked pot for the first time after being forced to go to a head shop to guy the equipment I needed to do hydroponic experiments. Kinda makes me sad that we have shunned not only the plant but all the knowledge around it..
Industrial agriculture is the way towards continued planetary disaster. GM is part of that paradigm. Diverse, organic, local agriculture is the future.
the only problem is see with this is that in the city you may have a lot of contamination going on, an the air may be really polluted for growing healthy plants, besides that, I'd totally eat it, I'm totally in favor of science and technology
The air and water in the building can be filtered I guess and there would almost zero loss of crop from insects or disease and it can be grown organically without the need for pesticide making it the heathiest food in existence.
one vertical farm building will not make a difference in CO2 levels in the city, we produce carbon by product at a rate that far surpasses the consumption rate of 5 compacted acres of plants inside a building.
Its a great idea it is the future farms, farmers are losing their farms and lands, not too mention because of gmo crops lots of the species are being contaminated, it may be our only hope left to avoid cross pollination from gmo crops. Besides it would cut costs for people in cities, and I would not see why farmers with land would not also use the same method to grow as many are doing now.
You must be an idiot...with the world population at 7 billion and GOING up. Without genetic engineering you could kiss millions of lives goodbye. You sir are an idiot. Genetic Engineering FTW.
What are you talking about? My reply has nothing to do with ideological problems. Genetic Engineering causes more problems than solve. Check out this documentary called "Future of Food" on HULU. And please learn some manners Youtube bullies are getting pathetic now. I wish you the best of luck in resolving your issues
How will they plants get the total sunlight needed? It looks like the vertical farm would decrease the amount of sunlight per day. Plus completer hydro mixed with chemical fertalizers?? Where are they going to flush the runoff? Good Idea though there are some areas that would create inferior products. They should build a test one.
Its artificial light, also the fertilizers can be organic not chemical based. I have friends here that grow this way all organic hydro using the same fertilizers organic farmers use on soil.
Im sure they will use solar panels to power the lights for the plants in the building if its green.
im so sorryz guyz will find a bloody body in your closet hanging there haunting you and will kill you and ur family and if u want to stop this just sends this to 6 videos in 30 mins or this will happen good luck
haha of course the new jersey farmer is going to say its a bad idea it would take all the money out her pocket and the other bitch at the end "doesn't sound appealing" who the fuck cares how it looks if it works by all means do it!!! she would be surprised how some meat packing happens or the process in which the meat goes through before it is packed TRUST me not very appealing
as intelligent as humans are , it seems commin sense is not at all common. who really knows where the hell our foodc omes from anyway. this is brilliant idea if you were there when 911 & the blackouts happen in n.y. if you wasnt there then u dont remember the lines for food & water at the cornerstore..wake up bloggers...stop hating just to hate..really wake up to supporting intiatives like this..
Oh I agree, just pointing out a counter to becoming overly reliant on this style of farming.
I love the idea personally, it's just going to take some education of the populus to embrace this method. The people interviewed in the video seem a bit ignorant as to hydroponic methods, but that might be more common than I assumed. It won't take much to show people that a tomato is essentially the same, regardless of the medium it is grown in.
What do you mean by our farmers? Because if you're referring to farmers within NA you should know that they don't make enough food to feed the country, and that "we" import a lot of food from other countries.
So the question should be: What about their farmers? Who will buy their food? If the world continues on the economic and environmental path its on now then it won't be us anyway.
no i meant our farmers meaning people growing our food not nation specific, im well aware that we import tons of food. my question is who buys food that isn't grown in a building then. who then does 'normal' production feed?
I think it's a great idea, now if they can figure out a way to convert human feces and urine from bathrooms into fertilizer and instantly jettison it into the soil, then they would be onto something.
Joseph Jenkins, the author of "The Humanure Handbook" would probably disagree with you there.
From my very limited research (maybe half an hour on Google), it would seem that using a carnivore's feces for fertilizer is not impossible, but it does involve different methods.
even though it wont have high grades with most americans but they have already been using human feces to mix with certain things to produce methane for energy in India a company called Sintex produces the rubber canisters that regular people and farmers use.
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It's an interesting idea, I'm not sure it would be cost effective though. There's no reason it could not grow good food but would'nt it be easier and cheaper to build rooftop greenhouses on existing buildings?
canuckartist 2 months ago
the problem is location 5 acres of land in NY city runs $50-100million go 100 miles out side the city and it drops there is a 190acre property for sale at $3.6 million. don't take me wrong I like the general concept I just don't see how it could be made with out breaking the bank when the final cost after building would be probably close to or over $200m to have less space then you can buy for $3-$4m add in the cost of building green houses and hydroponics say $10m total just doesn't add up
map543211 3 months ago
@map543211 What about renovating old abandoned buildings? wouldn't that perhaps drive down the cost?
In another interview related to vertical farming they did speak a lot about renovating abandoned buildings.
curingaging00 2 months ago
@curingaging00 finding large enough abandoned building in good enough shape to renovate might be difficult add in the cost of restructuring the building assuming you want to use natural sunlight would cost a small fortune in old large masonry buildings since their strength is in the skin of the building and if you use artificial light you get less yields at much higher cost then sunlight which is additional cost to over come probably better suited to more space restricted areas then US
map543211 2 months ago
Why aren't we building more of these?
curingaging00 3 months ago
This is really great. Gas wont be used to fuel tractors and cars maintaining fields and driving produce to and from farms and cities.
It seems some people are nervous about eating food that's not grown from soil. Well the benefit is NOTHING compared to the payoff. It will still taste the same I'm sure. Also, apparently they can naturally grow these products three times as fast, because it wont be subject to the earth's seasons, but the temperature and atmosphere specific to the plant 24/7
AndurilWielder 4 months ago
I agree with Beef1188. I am not a green/global warming believer or propronent, but this vertical farming idea has a place in our world today. Who cares how the vegetables, etc. are grown so long as they end up fresh, organic and easily accessible in the end?
LunaMartinMI 5 months ago
@LunaMartinMI though you might go to this building to shop, instead of a supermarket. maybe. to keep jobs open that may not happen, but it still could.
AndurilWielder 4 months ago
Growing things in skyscrapers unnatural?
Growing food in water instead of soil not appealing?
What the fuck is wrong with these people? Are they retards or something? What does it matter if it grows in a building or on a field? Growing in water or growing in soil is the same fucking thing!
If anything, vertical farms wouldn't need pesticides, wouldn't need fertilizer and wouldn't need 10cal. of oil for every calorrie they produce!
Beef1188 6 months ago
@Beef1188 Change is scary for alot of people. But this is the wave of the future. Perhaps a great palce to start would be....New Orleans. in 2005, the city was struck by a hurricane, and thousands of homes were destroyed. But those resdiential zones were retaken. The people left, or moved to other parts of the city. Thats thousands of acres of land available. Now what would happen if a company got some investors and built several multi-story farms, just outside of the city?
overusedoxymoron2003 3 months ago
@overusedoxymoron2003 Im not talking about fear, im talking about opinionated dickweeds who say something from the top of their heads its as if they worked for years on it.
Beef1188 3 months ago
ok so i did some math and by what he said in the video. if we get a 30 story building covering 5 acres to feed 50,000 people, that means for the current 6.9 billion people we would need about 138,000 30-story buildings and if you put them all together side by side that's 1,078.125 sq mi. you can put the entire thing in Rhode island and still have 135 sq mi left
lycanzer 6 months ago
@lycanzer Awesome math. Now bring that to the United Nations with a budget requirment and see how long it takes. ^_- Remember, despite how awesome the idea sounds, the bottom line is how much will something like that costs
overusedoxymoron2003 3 months ago
after learning how much cleaner the food grown inside can be, how much less fossil fuels and water it takes to grow them, and reducing travel time, this is definainatly a wonderful idea. exspecially in areas where it is impossible or difficult to grow food outside and areas that should be conservative with there water resources.(populated desert areas)
nicesocialgirl 7 months ago
This is GREAT!!
LoveVanillaRose 7 months ago
of course the farmer lady is against it! it takes away her profits
MultiUsername45 8 months ago
This should be tried on a small scale first over a period of several years in order to fully understand the implications to society. I hope it succeeds.
These types of endeavors are important, because as Man starts to colonize the Universe, the lessons learnt here will be invaluable.
krislyttle 8 months ago
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traditional agriculture is not and has never been natural. you dont see monocultures in nature. and is still the biggest cause of major climate change and the destruction of our planet.
TurnOnTune 9 months ago
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TurnOnTune 9 months ago
WOW!!! And they say all the idiots are down south. These farmers are feeding the plants the same nutrients they they would receive from soil. This would be perfect for any large city. Very inspiring.
GeorgiaBoi70 9 months ago
Eliminating the animals would be the ideal situation... We don't "need" the "pork" or other flesh "foods". Great idea ---- Just leave the animals out of the equation!
beaelliott 10 months ago
Thos against it are literally ignorant of how their CURRENT food is grown... they hysterically shy away from anything grown unnaturally, yet 92% of food in cities, including organic farm setups in the street get their seeds and most supplies to farm from companies who reduce the efficiency by intent, to keep control of the industry such as MONSANTO. This would create ludicrous surplus, hence finally granting cities a method of exportation of goods and actual revenue for cities themselves!!!
knowledgehammer 11 months ago 6
@knowledgehammer it was about time some one brought this to the public. peace!
odinmp5 8 months ago
Anyone against this is simply dumb.
KnowledgeDude 11 months ago
too loud
Noz7777 11 months ago
Surprisingly, vertical farms promise much healthier food than the pesticide ridden crap grown in the ground today. I have also heard of potential for increasing the taste of the food through artificial selection or some weird process but that's nothing I am willing to confirm for sure. 2 Downsides: cost and tremendous loss of jobs. But we have the resources and shouldn't we strive towards automation? This may (along with other advancements) bring capitalism itself into obsolescence.
MacabreManifesto 1 year ago
@MacabreManifesto Yeah you can change the taste because you can develop the flavinoids (spell check)
by flushing a plant, and allowing it to be filled with absolutely nothing but distilled water when harvested. Where as normal plants have lingering (and this isn't always bad), but have lingering nutrients... They could potentially ad vitamins,,, anything to not only make plants taste good but be packed with nutrients.. Imagine only having to eat one vegi all day to get daily vitamins!!!!!
juicyjuicejosh 1 year ago
@juicyjuicejosh What are you talking about? Distilled water doesn't grow plants. The nutrients come from the minerals in water. By definition, distilled water has no minerals.
MacabreManifesto 1 year ago
@MacabreManifesto Im talking about flushing your plants.. to get the nutrients out before harvest! Most "Good Farmers" do this. It clears all the salts and Nutrients out of the plant, so you don't taste them when you eat them :)!
Hope that helped!
juicyjuicejosh 1 year ago
@MacabreManifesto Oh I failed to mention cause you kinda dont know the processes at all.... You don't use the distilled water until you go to harvest.. obviously you need nutrients while the plant is GROWING" this process is only done when you are going to harvest and consume! Obviously you want some nutrients... specific nutrients still in the plant depending on what the plant is.. Like you'll see th leaves go yellow, so if its a leafy vegetable u obviously continue to use nitrogen!
juicyjuicejosh 1 year ago
@MacabreManifesto I have heard of people who grow using nothing but co2 in the air and water, but I can't um.. I can't say I believe thats gonna result in healthy plants.. And in such growing the plant would get it's nutrients through photosyntheseis.. meaning the leaves would use CO2 to make sugars and grow.. I think thats a bullshit technique, but in theory... I guess it could work with some plants!
juicyjuicejosh 1 year ago
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It's going to happen
mikeyb891 1 year ago
I said futer I meant future see stupidity is a contagious disease!
juicyjuicejosh 1 year ago
I watch this video everyday and everytime those opposed come on and say its un-natural makes me want to punch my computer.
No Disease
Control over nutrient intake
Less diesel to transport and grow produce
3/4 less water used
Un-Educated Peoples
Its 2011 people who dont realize we arent gonna have a futer unless we do this type of thing are un-natural and Need to GTFO of this country cause you;re holding the smart people back and suffocating progress!
juicyjuicejosh 1 year ago
@juicyjuicejosh holy shit everything you said.. me too!
mattknoops 1 year ago
Personally, I would love to see at least one of these "farmscrapers" become financially successful in the near future. I mean, if the global population continues to grow, then I'd say that erecting several of these babies in areas where demand for food is great would be a much better alternative than transforming natural habitats into more farmland. Of course, several challenges need to be overcome in order for these to be considered profitable and affordable, most notably power requirements.
ShadowWolfTJC 1 year ago
People who are against this must be completely un educated. You can grow hydro these days fully organic, and most do... the only difference is LESS WASTE. LESS water used. Less Nutrients. LESS ENERGY TO GROW.
That Farmer lady pissed me off... "It's UN-NATURAL"! Ohhh ok... Smog is natural..
There are more Cancer causing agents in farm crops than HYDRO BTW....
So if you dont smoke and get cancer when you eat healthy and exercise... it's because you're consuming PESTICIDES from HEALTHY FARM FOOD!
juicyjuicejosh 1 year ago
@JohnJuanUnited Communist believe in god!!!.
menakandy 1 year ago
Requires either sunlight, which you simply will not have in towers, or continuous artificial UV light, which will make the food many times more costly than anyone will be willing to pay. This is why vertical farming projects will never get past the first feasibility study. It is a fundamental problem of physics. There are a bunch of green solutions that look good until you actually plan it. Water-powered boats! Perpetual-motion machines!
ApostateAbe 1 year ago
It is some how an ancient idea. In our farm, in Portugal, we do produce on modular vertical system, which we had developed and patented. It is beyond academics, it is REAL!
prmendonca1967 1 year ago
I know this can work.
One thing I hope they are thinking about are Bees. Cause this cant work without bees. So Im wondering how their release, collection, and containment will work.
This is the future. New York is the perfect place to test it out too. But we gotta do it before another country does it.
teddybruscie 1 year ago
bots4life logical fallacy appeal to nature
superbacon321 1 year ago
I'm inspired to grow hydroponic crops in my basement
Nnomulac 1 year ago
This is definitely food for thought! Vertical farming, if the concept catches on, will change the skylines of our cities.
HorizSvcs 1 year ago
if you like vertical farming, be sure to check out the vertical farm blog and spread the word. with all this talk of reshaping cities for the future, etc, I'm convinced we need to consider how we eat as a way of reducing our impact on the natural world. let's bring about the next revolution in agriculture
albinothug 1 year ago
has anyone bothered to look up hydroponics before you make an assumption about it being unnatural? The plants still grow in a sub straight made from perlite, gravel, mineral wool, or coconut husk. Nutrient solution water is then timed and slow dripped into the plants. The nutrients are the same kind of nutrients you find in soil, nothing toxic like the GMO crap that most of you probably dont even know your eating now. And by growing it inside like this it would control the pest = less pesticide.
deadheat130 1 year ago
@deadheat130 GMO isn't toxic or crap. It's just genes that our spliced and combine to make something better. A "best-of-both-worlds" type approach.
MONSANTO IS NOT A GOOD EXAMPLE! That company is justed retarded. period.
SniperViper1000 1 year ago
even though it does sound appealing, for some reason, i don't really think you would tecnically call it farming.
reptilehunter7 1 year ago
Why doesn't it sound appealing to these people? It would be just the same, maybe better.
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the only thing i don't agree with this concept is raising chickins and farm animals in them what if one of them goes loose how much damage can a cow do if they became loose. farm animals should be in regular farms and just plants should be held in these buildings.
1spacemannsam 1 year ago
the only thing i don't agree with is raising chickins and farm animals in them what if one of them goes loose how much damage can a cow do if they became loose. farm animals should be in regular farms and just plants should be held in these buildings.
1spacemannsam 1 year ago
I still would be skeptical because the corporations would still find a way to get their foot in the door.
skyclaw441 1 year ago
@skyclaw441 LOL the corporations are the ones doing this! This way they don't have to pay truckers and farm hands nor buy trucks or pay for fuel. Robot arms will do most of the planting and harvesting. With retail sales in the ground floor and electrovan home delivery's, only plastic bags for packaging. Few employees and people cant go into the field and steal food at night. Local police take care of protesters protesting the new "square"(gene engendered) pig!
astrialkil 1 year ago
@cannadanarchy - Yeah , I too agree with this new concept. It's new fresh and interesting too. Can help the urban growers a lot who like to have a kitchen garden at their terraces and like.
Advanced Nutrients:
advanced2011 1 year ago
unnatural?think that one lady has been watching to many vampire movies.with food prices the way they are we need more hydroponics, we need more farming area which is skyward.I have seen to many people go hungry just here in America and when did we become the third world country?we need to make use of what we have to feed the population or worse case scenario drop a few nukes around the world to thin out the human herd so food wont be an issue
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IamMeredithK 1 year ago
There is a good article about vertical farming in the German P.M. magazine 05/2010. For interested German people, I highly recommend it.
Berkk1st 1 year ago
Girl at 3:00 I bet you couldn't tell the difference between food grown in a skyscraper or food grown in soil...
jeffsandychelsea 1 year ago
@jeffsandychelsea idunno, have you ever tasted the differece between vegetables grown in real dirt and vegetable grown in potting soil? What the animal eats makes a difference in how it tastes, and it's nutritional value, and the same thing appplies for plants.
IamMeredithK 1 year ago
@IamMeredithK Even so, you can more closely control hydroponic plants and get bigger and better varieties. So yes, maybe you COULD tell the difference. The hydroponics one would be BETTER. ;3
jeffsandychelsea 1 year ago
*Solar panel walls.
cannadanarchy 1 year ago
Vertical farming could be powered by solar and wind. The building could have most of its walls constructed by solar powers on its sides and turbines in the ceiling. It is still possible for them to use soil to grow organic food. They just need good ventilation and open windows. I would still like to see traditional organic farms thought. Corporate fields should be replaced by organic farming.
cannadanarchy 1 year ago
I came up with this 12 years ago... if only i wasn't in middleschool and was able to do something about it developing it....
dragonsowl 1 year ago
@dragonsowl I would think the idea has been around for longer then that, its not new but the cost to implement it would be higher then current economics allow.
hablerz 1 year ago
It's already happening.. check out Valcent's VertiCrop to see a real vertical farming system that grows organic crops with 5% water use and 5 times yield.
OprahGlide 1 year ago
vertical farms seem like a waste of time to me unless you're using nuclear power to light them.
i suppose the controlled enviroment might help a bit but i am skeptical
walter0bz 1 year ago
no pesticides either.
hydra8888 1 year ago
Valcent. Doing the yeoman's work they deserve all the kudos imaginable.
hydra8888 1 year ago
Good vid
raffyluvstaffy 2 years ago
I wish..... that replies to comments would go under the comment, not half-arsed backward at the top of the list.
We can only dream.
slowfinger2 2 years ago 11
I realy believe vertical agriculture will come into its own in towns and cities. Schools, hospitals and housing estates could have their own vertifarms, tended by a new generation of vertical farmers.
No pesticides, no pollution, no soil and no weather concerns.
In less than 20 years sustainable urban vertical farms will be commonplace
pegobuilders 2 years ago
and that it is perfectly acceptable to goto the garden store and purchase a bag of "cow POOP" mulch and plant your garden strawberries in it followed by a little sprinking of chicken "poop" fertilizer and a daily squirt of "worm POOP" compost tea...and then eat them..lol
concretehavencom 2 years ago
Interesting that people who have zero idea of what dirt is comprised of would say they have a problem with vertical or hydroponically grown foods.kinda like the guy who wouldnt eat wild strawberries because he said birds "pooped" on them. lol..like if somehow wild birds were educated not to "poop" on the garden variety. lol..amazing.
concretehavencom 2 years ago
Inside the pipe there will be a shelf like putting a bullet system inside but this is in long rectagular square shape and its flat. Or ad a shelf that goes up and down like it is pushing towards you.
Sonyoooo3 2 years ago
A standing pipe like tunnel farming is also nice and in the middle there is a elivator that goes around left or right and up and down this are maybe for future grape planting so the plant should be crawling? Pipe farming laying flat and the pipe should be spinning like a wheel but very very slow it has a bridge like system going inside the center under the bridge it has a light for sun and the spray watering etc. it is just beside the bridge when its done
Sonyoooo3 2 years ago
But building are far to risky when earth quack comes?
Sonyoooo3 2 years ago
What do you do when the electric goes out?
holt325 2 years ago
My concern in this issue is of increased the food supply = increased population. As we try to tackle "hunger" by growing more human food.. human population increases. Thus more agriculture. And on and on.. Where is the balance I dont have answers to this.. it is just a thought
UrbanHomesteadFL 2 years ago
UrbanHomesteadFL you sound like an enviro-nazi. I don't mean to insult. Who taught you this way of thinking? school and TV perhaps?
Understand the control system and you understand pathological thinking used by our psycopathic leaders. It is all lies and circus's for folk who will not think on their own.
Grow your own equals freedom.
slowfinger2 2 years ago
Its hard not being offended being likened to a "nazi". Sure you didnt intended it? I haven't watch/owned a TV for 10 years. Watch my channel. I grow 70% of our food, 3 chickens, worms and bee's soon. All inside the city. No teacher, preacher or leader questions agriculture.. its social suicide. Your reply didnt deepen understanding.. quite the oppsite, You are using the same tatics as the "control" system to limit discussion & questioning Why you were so threatened by my comments.
UrbanHomesteadFL 2 years ago
UrbanHomesteadFL
I must say, I am quite sorry for my outburst. You really put me in my place.
Went to your channel as you suggested and watched Selfist Enviromentalism. I'm impressed with your philosophy, your actions, and your outlook. Really wished I'd seen that before commenting. As for why, you asked, was I threatened by your comments. Not really, at least conciously at the time. I do believe the whole environmental movement is co-opted, and they hate people. That's a real threat.
slowfinger2 2 years ago
UrbanHomesteadFL If I'd seen your channel first I may have responded thusly: I think we must be careful not to use mechanistic cause and effect imagery in use by the enviro-nazis. Like for instance more food= more people. We were all raised and taught this Malthusian way of thinking there isn't enough to go around. Part of the control system.
slowfinger2 2 years ago
I believe humans, after regaining their minds, some freedom, and balance with nature, will start on the path of self control, and will not breed willy-nilly like the rutting beasts our authorities would have us believe. You sir are well down that path.
slowfinger2 2 years ago
@slowfinger2 Just as long as we don't have less then 2.1 fertiltiy rate I kind of agree.
SniperViper1000 1 year ago
zero fossil fuels?youll need horticultural lighting and many other thing runnings on electricity which is produced by fossil fuels.....
DogeKhan 2 years ago
vertical farming is as big as the wheel people and only photobioreactors come close to matching them in genius. mankind has problems 1. we use carbon moving it from syncs to the air. 2. we dont have enough food. hydroponics (about half ur food is anyway) doesnt need to be inorganic bio waste can be used (aquaponics) . fields then can be turned into forests that sync more than a tonne/co2 per tree known as sequestration... this is gunna be forced upon u soon it wont be a chouce
inheavenswake 2 years ago
pot growers have been proving the validity of this for years now lol.
wildchildplasma 2 years ago
Urban Farming / Urban Homesteading has really taken off in 2009. I look forward to seeing what happens next summer and am glad people are waking up.
simplelivingskills 2 years ago
what a load of bullshit
berrier123 2 years ago
Cool, sounds like fun
TheJoelpics 2 years ago
Cool, sounds like fun!
TheJoelpics 2 years ago
May b the idea is new and exciting but what abt . The co2 the plants will throw up in the air? In my opinion this is too vague and a lot of study is still req. In order for this to b practical.
ks2401 2 years ago
did you just say that the plants will produce CO2?
danndan6 2 years ago
Plants absorb co2. It is humans who release co2, not plants. This new idea could help limit the co2 released from fossil fuels. We are a long ways away from hydrogen fuel cell technology and 100% electric vehicles being fully utilized. Fossil fuels are going to be around for quite a while due to standards of living increasing around the world. Even if we have hybrids taking over from regular internal combustion engines, fossil fuels are going to be used. Why not somehow sequester the co2 cont...
high5flyer 2 years ago
from automobiles like the coal industry does and put it in the vertical farms? This increase of co2 in the scientifically controlled environment of the vertical farm will help increase plant growth in the farm. More yield means more food for the world, thus less hunger and less co2 in the Earth's atmosphere means gobal warming due to greenhouse gases from human interaction is signicantly reduced. Its a win-win.
high5flyer 2 years ago
hydroponic system consume huge amount of power. There is no way that the building could be produce power as much power as it consumes. Therefore this idea is not so green.
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danndan6 2 years ago
1 square meter of solar panels would never be able to supply the power for 1 square meter hydroponic garden. I'm not saying that vertical farming is a bad idea but having dedicated farm building is. For example having small green houses and solar panels on the top of all building would be a better idea.
instricallysafe 2 years ago
in response to the UV lighting dillemma, please search "omega garden". don't forget that VF is still in the birth stage. the first muskets had countless problems when they first came and so does VF but the basic concept is so incredible that we cannot give up on it just because it is not perfect. also, you can use the sunlight from windows and use reflection and refraction.
danndan6 2 years ago
depends on what system their using. If their using the typical spray system its going to consume a lot of water, but there are different methods.
If their really interested in saving the planet. Think nuclear.
Kin94285 2 years ago
Lets say hydroponics is not feasible due to the amount of power it takes up. They could instead use the dirt from farms that no longer would be used. This idea would solve the power problem and help farmers still make a decent living. They could sell the dirt and then have large ponds. In the place of growing corn, soybeans, etc... they could still participate in the agricultural industry by farming fish.
high5flyer 2 years ago
look up the omega garden. it reduces the energy needed 7 fold. the idea is very green but green is just scratching what wonderful effects this has
danndan6 2 years ago
indeed, omega garden has perfected it, but I think this can be perfected even 10 times than what omega garden or Dickson have been pushing.
I have a few ideas myself on how to perfect this concept, which would dramatically bring the cost down, but would rather just lave it in limbo for now.
But this will be needed immediately as the world population grows exponentially
thekid22585 2 years ago
the nutrients used in hidroponics come from oil rigth?
gavilan1973 2 years ago
some do , some dont , hydroponics
AdamDLDixon 2 years ago
Omg I wanna grow weed in there :)
groooveman85 2 years ago
"Omg I wanna grow weed in there :)" -(groooveman85)
im with you man, at least one floor for weed, or if its a whole building for weed, a different strain on each floor :D
enigmaPL 2 years ago 2
I like McDonalds, and Taco Bell, there is no question about its naturalness.
unknowmOOsewasfound 2 years ago
lmao iv worked at maccas m8 its all dehydrated onions, processed meat and cheese, bread with addatives, fat filled meat which is drenched with fat. deep fryed chicken, microwaved meat, pancakes, and other things, rerefrigerated fruits and veg, deep fryed fish, chicken and chips, fat filled icecream and sundays and more its grose lol but if you like it, not my problem im not gona stop you
SpiderMonkeyA69 2 years ago
Hydroponics is natural. Plants do not take in nutrients in a solid form. Soil acts as a reservoir for nutrients until the crop is watered. The nutrients are then absorbed into the water from the soil, and then into the plant in liquid form. Hydroponics just gets rid of this by supplying the plant from the very start with nutrient-enriched water; straight to the roots without soil obscuring them. We are simply making nature more efficient, but it is nature and natural nonetheless.
AnonymousCthulhu 2 years ago 2
if it was natural tomato plants would grow in ponds.
They dont they grow in soil.
Just to be politically correct.
copefarms 2 years ago
That is completely irrelevant. Botanically speaking, a tomato plant could grow in a pond, but because it does not, does not mean it could not. That's very illogical thinking.
AnonymousCthulhu 2 years ago
Most of the advocates I know of preventing against global warming are hesitant to invest in nuclear energy to greatly reduce our carbon, and don't acknowledge the fact that global warming would increase resources such as land fit for farming, while it's now too cold to sustain such agriculture. If global warming's your reason for going green don't buy it, but imagine how much fresher the food will be if grown locally compare to losing nutritional value as an 18-wheeler's payload to market.
metroidprimeribs 2 years ago
That depends on where you live. Some think that Northern countries may benefit in some ways from global warming. However, they also think that weather will become more erratic, with more droughts, flooding, etc. and the resulting starvation, political destabilization that these would cause.
So really, slightly better growing conditions won't make up for the other changes, no matter where you live (i.e. increasing humanitarian aid, political and military costs, etc.).
joechip123 2 years ago
Loved this idea when I first heard it months back! It'd cut back on the amount of farm land needed, reduce costs of production, and of transporting the goods. It'd make fresh produce immediately available to city populations. But! All this food needs to be free! Otherwise we're not really feeding everyone, are we?
kpop12345 2 years ago
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this is NOT the future. hydroponics is just force feeding plants by chemical means. organically grown produce grown from a nearby farm is the way to go. hydroponics should be limited to potheads wanting to grow their weed in their bedroom.
palui 2 years ago
lmfao... i strongly agree with that. it should be natural
iplaythefiddle 2 years ago
You can feed hydroponic plants with fish waste from a pond. That's what I do. A small organic farm may be great for a little group of people but in the FUTURE the population will be far too large to grow in farms. You also cut down fuel costs and import costs by growing the food in the cities that need them. There are TONS of natural hydroponics. it's not just for "pot heads"
00Mandingo00 2 years ago 10
lol
Arabellis13 2 years ago
You have no understanding of hydroponics. Stop talking.
AnonymousCthulhu 2 years ago
I Totally agree... I would much rather have lethal DNA altering chemicals sprayed onto my food than have it grown in a pest free environment... I mean its only natural.
And we're moving away from social Darwinism because?
bots4life 2 years ago 4
good point! TOTAL CONTROL! sounds scarey Like something bad is should happen like in every sci-fi movie. But al joking aside It may be the only way to feed all the people. I turned my entire backyard into a garden. Its alot of work for some salad and some tomatoes. Its free therapy from "total control" and la traffic. thanks
MrChickendog 2 years ago
is this built yet?
bewalt12345 2 years ago
Great idea but, the pest management would be very difficult in the cities.
MrChickendog 2 years ago
not really, indoor gardening makes pest control alot easier. since you can control all and filter all incoming air. if you had too you could even shut down ventilation and fog a floor at time or even the entire building.
Duckyistrippin 2 years ago
These can be grown indoors.
00Mandingo00 2 years ago
Green is the way to go!
I made a video called "One World" that I hope will inspire many. Check it out and tell me what you think.
Just trying to make a difference...
TheGreenOrchestra 2 years ago
why not use the tops of buildings, or putting greenhouse spaces into building plans like courtyards? instead of traditional aquaponics why not use water enriched by fish in indoor ponds? my main problem with the idea of a skyscraper farm is that it is not truly sustainable. real small scale farms can maintain themselves with little work and the right planning, while those would need constant energy use and maintenance, and the trend is that unnatural things end up being unnatural for our health.
BrockRhodes 2 years ago
If urban farming picks up we can live in a world where there are no more hobos, simply smelly concrete farmers.
BinkieMcFartnuggets 2 years ago
aquaponics FTW
BukuHaze420 2 years ago
Come on people wake up its Satan he wants you to think the world is orderly and completely logical. No its not god left two teenagers here who got tricked by a talking snake with legs. The mans name was bull the womans name was SHIT! Dont listen to the fossil records or the Illuminati scientists here because they devil worship with the reptilians in a conspiracy to start a NEW WORLD ORDER from the Freemasons founder NIMROD!
lol stupid
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KIKI12052 2 years ago
Although both women interviewed thought the idea of vertical farming was un-natural, humanity may be forced into it because of the instability of 'the weather'.
My question is whether or not hydroponic growing can deliver a product that has superior nutritional value... can it?
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Panixomfg 2 years ago
There sure are alot of nay sayers on here about this, what are you people on the governments payroll? they are the only ones that stand to loose from this, we have nothing to loose and everything to gain. Didn't you people hear him say that 1/3 of our fuel is being used to produce our food? and that this idea would bring that down to zero. who do you think would be hardcore against this idea? Hummmm....... Hydo produced food is the Healthiest food we can get people. WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
VonGoetzi 2 years ago
i believe he said 1/5 not 1/3 ! :)
chillspremium 2 years ago
Yeah but he has a point.
Theronguardaaah 2 years ago
Pot farmers are so far ahead in the hydroponics field than anyone else. I actually smoked pot for the first time after being forced to go to a head shop to guy the equipment I needed to do hydroponic experiments. Kinda makes me sad that we have shunned not only the plant but all the knowledge around it..
matthewj1985 2 years ago
This is fucking genius. I'd invest my money on this. THis is our future.
entyceit 2 years ago
Industrial agriculture is the way towards continued planetary disaster. GM is part of that paradigm. Diverse, organic, local agriculture is the future.
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gailquincy 2 years ago
the only problem is see with this is that in the city you may have a lot of contamination going on, an the air may be really polluted for growing healthy plants, besides that, I'd totally eat it, I'm totally in favor of science and technology
bbbbbb222222 2 years ago
The air and water in the building can be filtered I guess and there would almost zero loss of crop from insects or disease and it can be grown organically without the need for pesticide making it the heathiest food in existence.
celshader 2 years ago
good point about the filtered air, I didn't think about that
bbbbbb222222 2 years ago
Plants eat CO2 so growing plants in a city would be beneficial for the environment and for the people.
entyceit 2 years ago
what are you, in elementary school?
bbbbbb222222 2 years ago
yes.
entyceit 2 years ago 3
one vertical farm building will not make a difference in CO2 levels in the city, we produce carbon by product at a rate that far surpasses the consumption rate of 5 compacted acres of plants inside a building.
dayetripper 2 years ago
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Its a great idea it is the future farms, farmers are losing their farms and lands, not too mention because of gmo crops lots of the species are being contaminated, it may be our only hope left to avoid cross pollination from gmo crops. Besides it would cut costs for people in cities, and I would not see why farmers with land would not also use the same method to grow as many are doing now.
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cubachang 2 years ago
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cubachang 2 years ago
If there is no genetic mutation i dont see a problem
surname07 2 years ago
You must be an idiot...with the world population at 7 billion and GOING up. Without genetic engineering you could kiss millions of lives goodbye. You sir are an idiot. Genetic Engineering FTW.
Ocelot88 2 years ago
What are you talking about? My reply has nothing to do with ideological problems. Genetic Engineering causes more problems than solve. Check out this documentary called "Future of Food" on HULU. And please learn some manners Youtube bullies are getting pathetic now. I wish you the best of luck in resolving your issues
surname07 2 years ago 2
pretty funny Only that they climb up walls and are able to get to that roof...
Chick6517 2 years ago
How will they plants get the total sunlight needed? It looks like the vertical farm would decrease the amount of sunlight per day. Plus completer hydro mixed with chemical fertalizers?? Where are they going to flush the runoff? Good Idea though there are some areas that would create inferior products. They should build a test one.
PukkPukk 2 years ago
Its artificial light, also the fertilizers can be organic not chemical based. I have friends here that grow this way all organic hydro using the same fertilizers organic farmers use on soil.
Im sure they will use solar panels to power the lights for the plants in the building if its green.
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benkhong 2 years ago
haha of course the new jersey farmer is going to say its a bad idea it would take all the money out her pocket and the other bitch at the end "doesn't sound appealing" who the fuck cares how it looks if it works by all means do it!!! she would be surprised how some meat packing happens or the process in which the meat goes through before it is packed TRUST me not very appealing
SpliFFExP956 2 years ago
i would eat it, it's food.
curdle1 2 years ago 2
as intelligent as humans are , it seems commin sense is not at all common. who really knows where the hell our foodc omes from anyway. this is brilliant idea if you were there when 911 & the blackouts happen in n.y. if you wasnt there then u dont remember the lines for food & water at the cornerstore..wake up bloggers...stop hating just to hate..really wake up to supporting intiatives like this..
jackknightacademy 2 years ago
same token, a 30 story building is a lot easier to attack than thousands of acres of farm land.
buttaflutta 2 years ago
No one is saying we would stop one source over the other. we can continue normal agricultutral methods in the meantime lets work on this idea
jackknightacademy 2 years ago
Oh I agree, just pointing out a counter to becoming overly reliant on this style of farming.
I love the idea personally, it's just going to take some education of the populus to embrace this method. The people interviewed in the video seem a bit ignorant as to hydroponic methods, but that might be more common than I assumed. It won't take much to show people that a tomato is essentially the same, regardless of the medium it is grown in.
buttaflutta 2 years ago
so then what happens with our farmers? who buys thier goods?
pinkpuma1213 2 years ago
What do you mean by our farmers? Because if you're referring to farmers within NA you should know that they don't make enough food to feed the country, and that "we" import a lot of food from other countries.
So the question should be: What about their farmers? Who will buy their food? If the world continues on the economic and environmental path its on now then it won't be us anyway.
Scorch033 2 years ago
no i meant our farmers meaning people growing our food not nation specific, im well aware that we import tons of food. my question is who buys food that isn't grown in a building then. who then does 'normal' production feed?
pinkpuma1213 2 years ago
Reason and logic will not save us, we think we are too special. We are not.
mitchrix31 2 years ago
I think it's a great idea, now if they can figure out a way to convert human feces and urine from bathrooms into fertilizer and instantly jettison it into the soil, then they would be onto something.
Grumblebrook 2 years ago
We can not use human feces as a fertilizer due to we are meat eaters, use cow and horse manure on a garden.
akaMrVideo 2 years ago
Joseph Jenkins, the author of "The Humanure Handbook" would probably disagree with you there.
From my very limited research (maybe half an hour on Google), it would seem that using a carnivore's feces for fertilizer is not impossible, but it does involve different methods.
markermage 2 years ago
even though it wont have high grades with most americans but they have already been using human feces to mix with certain things to produce methane for energy in India a company called Sintex produces the rubber canisters that regular people and farmers use.
jackknightacademy 2 years ago
they do all day in every country.
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