Most rags to riches stories are exaggerated. The working class are working from paycheck to paycheck and still ending up broke. It's no coincidence most politicians were born into wealthy families. The wealthy are the puppetmasters who control the strings of society and persecute the poor. America isn't the land of opportunity. America is the land of exaggerated stories about how easy it is for poor people to become rich without the means to become rich. There's less opportunity now than ever.
Most rags to riches stories are exaggerated. The working class are working from paycheck to paycheck and still ending up broke. It's no coincidence most politicians were born into wealthy families. The wealthy are the puppetmasters who control the strings of society and persecute the poor. America isn't the land of opportunity. America is the land of exaggerated stories about how easy it is for poor people to become rich without the means to become rich. There's less opportunity now than ever.
@richahlgrim123 I wasn't Obozo who signed TARP it was Bush, and both parties allowed the bailouts. The big bailout secretly came from the Fed without Congressional approval!
The "sin" of how money was lost is an intellectual argument that is perspective, saying an investment is a "bet" is shorthand for placing blame however the bailing out kept money in circulation as opposed to being without. Money is not "lost" simply moved in the market to another, often another country and that is more to the point I believe as to who and what or even where the money was lost.
"The banks were bailed out for about 27 trillion dollars" - Credibility lost. The US National debt right now is what, 14 trillion? So what happened to the other 13 trillion? Just by looking at the numbers its easy to see that this doesnt add up. If the "American tax payer is on the hook" for that money, it would be reflected as part of the national debt, unless you're going to claim conspiracy-theory crap about how a number as huge as 27-freakin-trillion is somehow being hidden from the books.
@eggiex1 .....that's the whole point. The system is that corrupt. Ron Paul has justified that claim, he spoke out against them in 2008 when it happened. This is a great video needs to be watched by millions. Wake up the sheep.
@macryan19 You'll never convince me that the US government has lent out 27 TRILLION dollars and somehow has managed to hide that from the balance sheet that is known as the "national debt", any more than a 9-11 "truther" is going to convince me that 9-11 was an inside job, but if that's what you want to believe, then to each his own. Call me a stupid sheeple moron if you wish, I have a similar opinion about anyone that thinks 27 Trillion dollars can be hidden so easily anyway.
@eggiex1 The Federal Reserve and FDIC gave the 37 Trillion. It is on their balance sheets! When payments are due if the loans are not paid back the taxpayers are on the hook. The Fed will bill Treasury! Why do u think out deficits are so high every year for the next en years? There was only one stimulus package. You are amortizing defaulted loans to the , Fannie, and Fredie over ten years!
@trashtelevision Isn't it funny how it went from 27 trillion to 37 trillion in one single comment. I actually gave this a shot even though I was pretty sure this was all fear-mongering BS, so I googled it. The only references to 27 or 37 trillion I found was in message boards filled with conspiracy nuts. Point me to a legitimate source and I might believe it, that is, after reading it and figuring out whether or not you guys are taking that number out of context. (Most likely)
@eggiex1 The 37 T was a typo! lol It is still 27 T. The only way to prove the exact amount is to audit the Fed...not likely.. Bernanke himself admitted to huge loans of Trillions to foreign Banks, Corporations etc. He refused to name the Banks in his testimony to Congress, but its just obvious by the deficit that this was huge! Whether it was 27 or 20 or 30 will never be exactly known without an audit. But is is in that area!
@trashtelevision Fine, I will google Bernanke Congress Testimony at a later date and see what I find, but for the time being, I stand by my previous statement. It strikes me extremely odd that I could not find a single news article, etc. that would mention this number. Sorry but anyone who lets himself be led by hear-say without legitimate proof or documentation is just going on conspiracy theory, and I'm not one to fall for that. I'll be back another time after looking into it.
@TheGreatHumungous You never voted for him anyways you lying POS. No one but idiots say "NObama." If you have to lie for your cause, you know you're a fucking idiot anyways...
The bailout happened before Bush left office. You are even dumber than you could possibly stretch your mind to think!
@Protege385 I was mad because you pretended you voted for Obama in the last election by claiming you made a mistake in doing so. It's like your kind to lie, cheat, and steal to get your way and that'll make anyone mad.
Also, your side seeks "saviors." You think humanity is a rotten lot that needs redemption. You thank god for the good things and blame man for all the bad; so it's no wonder you and your voting block have their accounting all fucked up.
You bloody morons who spend your time autoerotically fixating on the bankers and pretending that you have any idea what derivatives are or where they came from; pretending you understand why the loans were extended and who is to blame, precisely, for it; you people are frauds.
There are so many people who have culpability in this matter including millions of homeowners, a government focused on increasing homeownership instead of protecting banks (like we do in Canada) and other such problems.
@trashtelevision Banks and bankers did some ridiculously unethical things; personally, I would have loved to see prosecutions on the matter in an ideal world.
Unfortunately, you loons turn this issue into another anti-capitalist crusade and are getting far too fanatical and dangerous to indulge. I grudgingly agree that it is better not to pursue the matter all that far, just in spite of you folks and to force you to accept that nobody listens to you.
@kwe19772002 ty A lot of people over analyze it. The banks stealing trillions on swaps caused an economic collapse resulting in a recession which contributed to lower tax revenues stimulus spending which lead to huge deficits!
It's interesting how the American Occupiers blame capitalism, while in Europe, several of the socialist countries over there are teetering on default and bankruptcy. They have Greek, Italian, and British "Occupiers" protesting over austerity measures. So if the socialist European states are supposed to be "good models" of the kind of government the liberals in America aspire to, they might want to take a closer look at their "ideal model of government."
@josephc28 The problem is not Capitalism or Socialism it is the Banks stealing the money. That caused a financial crisis and huge deficits from the lower tax revenues resulting from layoffs! The bailouts in Europe are to the Banks!!!!
@trashtelevision I can agree with you about the banks, especially the central banks, but the deficits are caused by overspending on the part of the governments, especially in America. The last time the budget was balanced in America was back in 1999 and 2000. The last time it was balanced before then was 1969. The governments in both Europe and America live by deficit spending. This is unsustainable, as we are beginning to see in Europe and before too long, we will see it in the U.S. as well.
@josephc28 Yes spending is out of control everywhere...hence printed fiat money and the rise of Gold! Much of the deficit here is lack of revenue regardless of what they tell you. If unemployment was 4% and GDP 6% and we brought back all the outsourced jobs it could all look lot better! Then they could stop stimulus and printing!
@trashtelevision The Fed will never stop printing money. That's why the dollar has been depreciating for years and years. The monetary system is based on debt. That's why they came off the gold standard. That was the birth of deficit spending which is why the govt is in the fiscal mess it is in today. It makes no difference what shape the economy is in. If you notice, during the robust 90's economy, the national debt still grew, even when the Clinton administration was crowing about surpluses.
@trashtelevision The banks didn't cause the financial crisis. They didn't put a gun to anyone's head and force them to take out loans that they couldn't pay back.
We've doubled the M1 money supply and they don't put stats out for the M3 money supply anymore. Who knows if 27 trillion is actually right.
But the corporations absolutely do lobby government. Of course. The solution is not to protest the corporations, the solution is to protest the government for not obeying the constitution. Put the chains back on Big Brother, so he can't give out anymore of our money.
@Keeban3 I agree! We can't be sure of the exact amount the Fed loaned or gave but It's common knowledge that the Fed lent at least 16 Trillion. Bernanke admitted it in front of Congress fro ma partial audit. He would not say to who.
Yea I saw you mention that to someone else, and was going to ask if you have a link to a video of this. The only thing I can find is him 'debunking' those numbers, saying that only 1.5 trillion was loaned.
@Keeban3 If you are willing to do some browsing on youtube you can find the Video of Bernanke's testimony to Congress. You may also be able to find Dylan Ratigan too. He showed it frequently!
I didn't search that long, but I've searched long enough to doubt its existence. I am sure you remember seeing it, but memory can be a tricky beast. He testified before congress recently specifically saying the Fed didn't loan out that kind of money. Certainly he is lying, but I don't think he is brazen enough to directly say both he did and didn't to the same committee. And google and youtube come up with nothing easy, and you'd expect it to be easy.
I think when you talk about 27 trillion there is a distinction between what was directly given and the money made available as loan gaurantees. Banks were loaned money by the Fed at nearly 0% interest and then they loaned that money out at a profit.
But regardless of amount, these banks (and rating agencies) committed outright fraud with no accountability while we are left with a massive recession. And of course these banks continue to own "our" politicians.
@harrydoyle It's common knowledge that the Fed lent at least 16 Trillion. Bernanke admitted it in front of Congress fro ma partial audit. He would not say to who.
@hirschman23 If u believe what the Fed says without concrete proof that may not be a good idea. Did u think they would say it wasn't paid back? Only a real audit would show what is going on there.
@macy725 Sadly it is not a lie. Most of the money went through the Fed and the FDIC. They don't need Congressional Approval. Bernanke refused to answer where 16 Trillion of it went in a hearing.
WELCOME TO THE GLOBAL ECONOMY. HAHAHAHAHA!!! Morons with occupy wall street protested the wrong place. Should've been 1600 Pennsylvania, and at the doorstep of the Fed.
@omega14j1 Some did protest at the Fed. But the "Occupy" Movement was hijacked by the left...so now people don't realize here are a lot of normal people in the middle calls who agree!
@trashtelevision The left is alot of normal people. As is the right. Fox and CNN and MSN have all painted a picture that anyone of another bias is retarded, for the sole purpose of splitting the populace so the gov can pass shit while we aren't looking, like NDAA and SOPA, Gladly, we caught SOPA. There are more intelligent people on the Left and on the Right than anyone gives eachother credit for.
@Keijikrall There is good and bad on both sides. I'm in the middle pretty much so I draw from both a bit. But I tend to be more Libertarian as I get older. BTW "Occupy" was for everyone on both sides who want a shot at success with hard work!
@Keijikrall I could not have said it better myself. However there are even more indoctrinated zombies on all sides than we give ourselves credit for as well. Those zombies are the problem.
please submit to collectivism in order to fight the banks. Not once does occupy address individuality and preserve it with their collectivist hive-mind system of manipulation.
Fascism is what the GM redo basically was. However, BHO is a Marxist with Nazi tendencies as is Nazi Pelousy and Dirty Harry Reid. The word statist also fits. OWS is a pretty much confused menagerie sponsored by leftists.
@JakeBlakeProject Do you know that Christianity is correct? The world around us reveals that G-d DOES exist, and the historical evidence reveals that Jesus Christ really did come to this earth and there is overwhelming evidence that Jesus Christ really did physically rise from the dead. Jesus is coming again and the signs of the end times that were foretold in the Bible are coming to pass.
@JakeBlakeProject Nah bro. Occupy is an allergic reaction to all of the bullshit we are fed from all media left right and center. It is an allergic reaction to the deadly bacteria which is our corrupt political system. Like all allergic reaction it is not comfortable, it is not pretty but it is good because it lets you know that something bad is afoot.
Good work, but you didn't go all the way back to discover the cause of the problem. Read the CRA of 1977 and the regulatory changes to it to understand how our government caused the problem in the first place. Then look at the Trade treaties of the 90's and government environmental regulation to understand where the job market went. It may disgust you to realize that it was mostly Dems that did it all.
@trashtelevision Amen brother, it's refreshing to see another person with a brain that works on Youtube. Everything in this issue that happened was done by the Dems, but it required compliance from the Republicans. Newt Gingrich was Speaker when Clinton passed the trade treaties. Congress could have stopped that madness but didn't. Our manufacturing base fell apart over that act.
@trashtelevision Yes, that was yet another regulatory attempt at controlling the value of the otherwise unbacked $. Other regulatory attempts that didn’t help anything have happened to include the CRA of 77 I mentioned and Franks/Dodd will prove to be the same thing. They just don’t get it.
@maconsumner Oh they get it! All these things are purposely designed to help the Banks not us. They aren't here to represent us...they represent the elites!
@trashtelevision If they get it, and I do believe that a very, very small portion of them do and the rest are just a bunch of screaming idiots, why are they not in Washington, at the source of the problem? I have mentioned the Franks/Dodd banking regulation bill to several people and most don’t even seem to realize those two were in large portion responsible for the banking crisis in the first place.
@trashtelevision Yes, there were a bunch of people who knew exactly when to get their money in and out based on what they did. I think a case for insider trading could be made against them. It was absolutely intentional what they did.
@Bergertim That element of it is there for sure, but it doesn't speak for many Americans who don't mind rich people...we simply didn't want them to get rich stealing. I've been in business my entire life and I believe in earning your money.
@Sismiques I'm not talking about the participants. Many people, with many different philosophies are participating, but the movement itself was started and coordinated by communist groups.
@Sismiques (continued) and as to your first question, if you're not afraid of living in a communist state then it must be because you are ignorant of the facts. Communism is responsible for the starvation, execution and extermination of over 150,000,000 innocent men, women and children, all in the name of communism.
@BoredomCorner The problem here is not capitalism, it is ignorance and misinformation. There is no "unchecked capitalism" in America. Everything is heavily regulated by the government, to the point where capitalism is almost impossible. And fascism belongs on the left side of the political spectrum, which is why the word NAZI is derived from the words national and socialism. It has nothing to do with the right, which is about minimal government and maximum freedom.
Grow up, stop looking for some1 Ron Paul etc, to come along and save you. It is our responsibility to commit to actions in the interest us the people the ruling class will never freely let go they have worked hard to "control the public mind" as ur leaders put it. they need protect themselves from the "the bewildered herd" (us) or risk being "trampled" thus 99% r forbidden being anything other then a spectator
SUPPORT AND GET ALL YOU KNOW TO SUPPORT RON PAUL 2012 OR YOU ARE FOR THE 1% and hurting the 99% GREATLY.
LITERALLY,NO OTHER CANDIDATE IS TALKING ABOUT THESE ISSUES AT ALL AND RON PAUL IS AGAINST EACH/ALL OF THEM : THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX STARTING WARS FOR PROFIT, THE FEDERAL RESERVE TRYING TO HOLD ITS POWER AFTER IT HAS PROVEN IT HURTS AVERAGE AMERICANS WHILE MAKING BANKERS RICH, ENDING BANK BAILOUTS, ENDING THE WAR ON DRUGS PAID FOR BY SPECIAL INTERESTS ALCOHOL TOBACCO TIMBER.
@TravistheHuman What's wrong with it? If you sell 80% of your products here and have 15% of your employees here it's called tax evasion! Besides decimating the tax fun it does wonders for our trade balance and currency!
lots of people who self-identify as the 'right' seem to think the occupy movement is all about people on the 'left' who want the government to control their lives for them, looking for a government handout etc. this doesn't seem like the case to me. i haven't seen occupy petition the government to do a damned thing for them.
it's more about telling the banking industry, or wall street, to get the fuck out of politics, pay a living wage, and quit acting as though the lives of americans are expendable. its about raising awareness that we the people are getting shafted and we aren't gonna take it anymore.
problem is, people are conditioned to a left/right mindset where the opposite side each has half the bad policies projected on them. Anything that seems like it has anything to do with the left? Oh, must be a bunch of dirty hippy commies looking for a handout. i can't respect people who puts words in my mouth based on a simpleton's view of politics.
@snakefeather1 I am not left or right! Simply Truth! I just look at the facts and ignore all the spin both left and right. I guess that's why I like Ron Paul! lol
@trashtelevision LMAO!!!!! Simply truth....no my sheeple friend.....you are still in the matrix .....thinking a politician will save you.....refusing to take responsibility for your stupidity
Ron Paul is a Rosy Cross memeber, a John Birch Society Member (Jesuit Front) and a Freemason.
But no......I know wat you sheep will say before you do ."Not all masons are bad and so what if he is...he is against the FED.....he is anti NWO" .....funny.....Masons are key in the conspiracy...SHEEP
@maidenkid84 It all looks bad to me, but of the candidates RP looks best. What else is there? We really are at a breaking point so if he's not elected we're toast, and if he is we may be toast.
@MrJeggus seriously! people need to drop the right/left paradigm, you have all been brainwashed! the politicians on the 'right' are extremely culpable in the cancerous growth of the MIC bankrupting our nation, and getting in bed with wall street and billionaires.
Some parts of OWS have a good point and are a lot like the Tea Party. But they're the 1% of the "99%". The 99% of OWS are a bunch of idiots, simply put.
Go to hell, you are the one labeling everyone, that's where the 99% BS comes from. OWS itself is perhaps 0.1%, and about 0.1% of OWS makes sense. The rest of it is flat out BS, a socialist insurgency that needs to be put down.
So I'll label you:
Idiots, socialists, communists, hippies, insurgents, thugs, democrats, morons, freaks, smelly bastards, lazy, incompetent, liars and far left-fringe lunatics.
@malagaent Us? First off I don't think you understood my comment. I'm not part of OWS, nor do I support it. But the fact of the matter is that there is a small, rational part of OWS that the majority of the American public would agree with. The small part that hates the corruption going on in Washington like the insider trading and whatnot. I'm a constitutionalist conservative and I have no problem bashing Republicans or Democrats when they start to think their shit doesn't smell.
Actually, I think it is you who doesn't understand my comment, which is my fault. My comment is directed at the title which you posted. I should have been more clear that it was not directed at you personally.
I'll be commenting there as well, because there was NO hijacking of the movement, it was from day 1 a far left radical movement designed to inflame class warfare. Everything else is irrelevant, anyone in the movement thinking otherwise is ignorant at best.
I am a Ron Paul supporter! I have ads fore him under The "Political" playlist and agree with all that you said! The Occupy Movement was hijacked by the left to make them look like loonies! Sadly it worked, but many are Ron Paul supporters!
@JMS13579 hey man i agree fully, but dont attack people as pathetic, i just woke up to the truth 3 weeks ago when i heard about the national defence act and all that bs, tell them to listen, inform them, media has blinded us so badly people just dont know how to find real information anymore, be patient, we need to show people he is the best choice we have as a president, upmost respect to you man.
@JMS13579 I support ron pall, and occupy wallstreet. I have no idea why you think occupy doesn't want what you listed, when I went those were all the main issues, what do you think it's about?
@Liton777 My point is I think occupy wallstreet should officially endorse Ron Paul because the is the only candidate who is represents their interests at all. spread the word, he needs a grassroots following because he is about to be fully attacked by the media when he wins Iowa.
To me it just seems like a ton of people from occupy have goals but no means to achieve them and they dont know of Ron Paul, tragically. They aren't pathetic, but the reality of the situation is.
@JMS13579 I agree with that, but they have good reasons, they want people to realise that they alone have they power to change the government, and not put their faith in one man. But When it comes down to it the best way of fixes this government is puting ron paul in office. Me and many of my friends go to the occupy movements, and also support ron paul.
@Liton777 But you guys are overestimating the effects these protests have.
The media just lies about what happens and whos there and what your aims are.
If EVERYONE there had a Ron Paul sign- instead of WERE THE 99%, it would be impossible to censor, your aim would be obvious, they couldn't lie.
The elite who back the military industrial complex, drug war and fed reserve aren't going to stop until we get a candidate in the white house. I see everything else as a waste of valuable protesting
@Liton777 I'm not sure if you noticed this yet, THE MEDIA IS ON FULL ATTACK OF RON PAUL. The saying Gandhi said is so true "first they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they attack you, then you win."
They censored him from polls and cable news first.
Then they tried to call him "nuts" without ever explaining why any of his policies are illogical
Now they are calling him a racist for letters he never wrote and wont stop bringing it up after he answered 1000 times, blatant propaganda.
@JMS13579 i don't think OWS ought to shift their message into a political endorsement. he may be a great candidate, but it is the core issues that he addresses that are the important part. people need to know what is wrong with the country, and not just line up behind a candidate. politicians lie, but the truth never lies.
@JMS13579 not helpful. the world doesn't revolve around ron paul. if he had a heart attack tomorrow what would you do? crawl under a rock and die? look for a new savior? the message is bigger than ron paul.
@snakefeather1 YOU ARE TOO IDEALISTIC! YOU DO NOT REALIZE THE EXTENT TO WHICH ONLY RON PAUL IS SUPPORTING THE 99%. WE ARE LOSING TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS BC OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE ALONE, NOT TO MENTION AT LEAST A WARS AND THE DRUG WAR.
You guys aren't accomplishing a thing! If anyone but Ron Paul wins this next election you will continue to have the federal reserve- you must not know the extent that the federal reserve is SCREWING EVERYONE ELSE, only Ron Paul is going to accomplish ANYTHING.
@snakefeather1 THIS IS THE POINT OF HAVING A DEMOCRACY. SO WE CAN ENDORSE CANDIDATES WHO REPRESENT OUR INTEREST, not so we could protest meaninglessly. WHAT A WASTE! What do you think they protested like this in the Arab Spring? NO THEY HAD DEMANDS, THEY HAD PEOPLE WHO REPRESENTED THEIR INTERESTS, ITS THE ONLY WAY TO GET THOSE ABUSING POWER OUT.
THERE IS ONE ANTI ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATE, RON PAUL.
SUPPORT HIM OR YOU ARE Unconsciously helping the 1% AGAINST THE 99%
@snakefeather1 No one is going to listen to you because you sit in front of where the are working! This isn't the 1800s. Banks don't even need to operate outside their own buildings at all! THE PROTESTS ARENT DOING ANYTHING EXCEPT DRAWING MORE PROTESTERS TO PROTEST NOTHING- NO DEMANDS.
You really expect banks to stop PRINTING MONEY (which devalues EVERYONE ELSES currency) just because you ASK THEM?????
COME ON ! WAKE UP! YOU NEED TO STOP THIS WITH THE FULL FORCE OF THE LAW.
@snakefeather1 There is more than one libertarian, Ron Paul is just the prototype and deserves it more than any of the others AND IS IN POSITION TO WIN THIS ELECTION AND EASILY WOULD WITH AN ENDORSEMENT FROM OCCUPY WALLSTREET- THIS WOULD DO SO MUCH TO FIX OUR COUNTRY ITS SAD YOU DONT GET IT.
HE IS THE ONLY CANDIDATE WHO SUPPORTS YOUR INTERESTS AT ALL WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE MEDIA IS TRYING TO STOP YOU FROM THIS BY OVEREXAGGURATING WHAT YOU ARE ACCOMPLISHING WITH THESE PROTESTS
Not to mention what history tells us...When Regan cut taxes on the rich the country suffered. However in the times like the forties and fifties, when taxes on the richest were HIGH the country was doing WELL. We need to tax the rich appropriately and it isn't to stifle them or capitalism but to keep things in balance and help maintain our country's stability and our standard of living. Don't you know the USA is one of the worst ranking in INCOME INEQUALITY? That leads to poor standard of living.
Yeah The reason the poor don't pay income tax is because they literally cannot afford to. They make only a few thousand a year some of them and they can hardly afford to take care of themselves. Why anyone would drastically CUT taxes on people who are far more wealthy than normal and CAN shoulder a greater tax burden, especially in times of economic decline when we need the revenue as a nation, is absurd and opposed to all LOGIC.
.. the people are selfish, self-righteous, prejudicial, ignorant, hypocritical, shallow, brainwashed, suppressed, war-minded, living in denial, worshipful, disrespectful, exploitational.. i could go on with about 10-20 other adjectives about how corrupt mankind is. 200-4000 years worth of increasing bullshit has lead up to this massive joke of an economy we can barely manage to keep stable (which will collapse shortly).
Most rags to riches stories are exaggerated. The working class are working from paycheck to paycheck and still ending up broke. It's no coincidence most politicians were born into wealthy families. The wealthy are the puppetmasters who control the strings of society and persecute the poor. America isn't the land of opportunity. America is the land of exaggerated stories about how easy it is for poor people to become rich without the means to become rich. There's less opportunity now than ever.
GenerationX1984 8 hours ago
Most rags to riches stories are exaggerated. The working class are working from paycheck to paycheck and still ending up broke. It's no coincidence most politicians were born into wealthy families. The wealthy are the puppetmasters who control the strings of society and persecute the poor. America isn't the land of opportunity. America is the land of exaggerated stories about how easy it is for poor people to become rich without the means to become rich. There's less opportunity now than ever.
GenerationX1984 8 hours ago
and yet you occutards will vote for the same people (obozo and his gang of lieberal scum) that caused the problem in the first place...
richahlgrim123 1 day ago
@richahlgrim123 I wasn't Obozo who signed TARP it was Bush, and both parties allowed the bailouts. The big bailout secretly came from the Fed without Congressional approval!
trashtelevision 1 day ago
The "sin" of how money was lost is an intellectual argument that is perspective, saying an investment is a "bet" is shorthand for placing blame however the bailing out kept money in circulation as opposed to being without. Money is not "lost" simply moved in the market to another, often another country and that is more to the point I believe as to who and what or even where the money was lost.
frost1947 4 days ago
@frost1947 Let's simply say our loss was the Banisters gain!
trashtelevision 4 days ago
"The banks were bailed out for about 27 trillion dollars" - Credibility lost. The US National debt right now is what, 14 trillion? So what happened to the other 13 trillion? Just by looking at the numbers its easy to see that this doesnt add up. If the "American tax payer is on the hook" for that money, it would be reflected as part of the national debt, unless you're going to claim conspiracy-theory crap about how a number as huge as 27-freakin-trillion is somehow being hidden from the books.
eggiex1 5 days ago
@eggiex1 .....that's the whole point. The system is that corrupt. Ron Paul has justified that claim, he spoke out against them in 2008 when it happened. This is a great video needs to be watched by millions. Wake up the sheep.
macryan19 4 days ago
@macryan19 You'll never convince me that the US government has lent out 27 TRILLION dollars and somehow has managed to hide that from the balance sheet that is known as the "national debt", any more than a 9-11 "truther" is going to convince me that 9-11 was an inside job, but if that's what you want to believe, then to each his own. Call me a stupid sheeple moron if you wish, I have a similar opinion about anyone that thinks 27 Trillion dollars can be hidden so easily anyway.
eggiex1 4 days ago
@eggiex1 The Federal Reserve and FDIC gave the 37 Trillion. It is on their balance sheets! When payments are due if the loans are not paid back the taxpayers are on the hook. The Fed will bill Treasury! Why do u think out deficits are so high every year for the next en years? There was only one stimulus package. You are amortizing defaulted loans to the , Fannie, and Fredie over ten years!
trashtelevision 3 days ago
@trashtelevision Isn't it funny how it went from 27 trillion to 37 trillion in one single comment. I actually gave this a shot even though I was pretty sure this was all fear-mongering BS, so I googled it. The only references to 27 or 37 trillion I found was in message boards filled with conspiracy nuts. Point me to a legitimate source and I might believe it, that is, after reading it and figuring out whether or not you guys are taking that number out of context. (Most likely)
eggiex1 2 days ago
@eggiex1 The 37 T was a typo! lol It is still 27 T. The only way to prove the exact amount is to audit the Fed...not likely.. Bernanke himself admitted to huge loans of Trillions to foreign Banks, Corporations etc. He refused to name the Banks in his testimony to Congress, but its just obvious by the deficit that this was huge! Whether it was 27 or 20 or 30 will never be exactly known without an audit. But is is in that area!
trashtelevision 2 days ago
@trashtelevision Fine, I will google Bernanke Congress Testimony at a later date and see what I find, but for the time being, I stand by my previous statement. It strikes me extremely odd that I could not find a single news article, etc. that would mention this number. Sorry but anyone who lets himself be led by hear-say without legitimate proof or documentation is just going on conspiracy theory, and I'm not one to fall for that. I'll be back another time after looking into it.
eggiex1 2 days ago
GoAnimate submissions ought to be an instant ban from YouTube.
WMBrown 5 days ago
I find it funny that you need a cartoon to explain your cause!
MrBoogerhook 5 days ago
GOD BLESS OCCUPY WALL STREET
kn9ioutom 6 days ago
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Stop Tax Havens and impose global minimum wage.
drs7773ify 1 week ago
I made a massive error and I am truely sorry - I want my vote back - NObama
TheGreatHumungous 1 week ago
@TheGreatHumungous They are all puppets anyway!
trashtelevision 1 week ago 3
@TheGreatHumungous You never voted for him anyways you lying POS. No one but idiots say "NObama." If you have to lie for your cause, you know you're a fucking idiot anyways...
The bailout happened before Bush left office. You are even dumber than you could possibly stretch your mind to think!
Phaleel 1 week ago
@Phaleel lol y u so mad bro? Your savior didn't stop the oceans from rising like promised? Obama voted for TARP btw.
Protege385 1 week ago
@Protege385 I was mad because you pretended you voted for Obama in the last election by claiming you made a mistake in doing so. It's like your kind to lie, cheat, and steal to get your way and that'll make anyone mad.
Also, your side seeks "saviors." You think humanity is a rotten lot that needs redemption. You thank god for the good things and blame man for all the bad; so it's no wonder you and your voting block have their accounting all fucked up.
Phaleel 1 week ago
say what you want Im voting Obama
MadVladmcPantz 2 weeks ago 2
@MadVladmcPantz Well at least they haven'ttaken that right away yet!
trashtelevision 1 week ago
@MadVladmcPantz have fun being homeless in a few years
burningsusie 1 week ago
You bloody morons who spend your time autoerotically fixating on the bankers and pretending that you have any idea what derivatives are or where they came from; pretending you understand why the loans were extended and who is to blame, precisely, for it; you people are frauds.
There are so many people who have culpability in this matter including millions of homeowners, a government focused on increasing homeownership instead of protecting banks (like we do in Canada) and other such problems.
countertreason 2 weeks ago
@countertreason Ya Ya and the banks didn't and aren't stealing 40000 times what went to homeowners through Fannie and Freddie!
trashtelevision 2 weeks ago
@trashtelevision Banks and bankers did some ridiculously unethical things; personally, I would have loved to see prosecutions on the matter in an ideal world.
Unfortunately, you loons turn this issue into another anti-capitalist crusade and are getting far too fanatical and dangerous to indulge. I grudgingly agree that it is better not to pursue the matter all that far, just in spite of you folks and to force you to accept that nobody listens to you.
countertreason 2 weeks ago
@countertreason thank you...I'm so sick of all these libs complaining and protesting shit they do not even understand themselves.
mazurekpaul 2 weeks ago
@mazurekpaul I appreciate that and am glad to know that reason still has its adherents amongst the youtube rabbel.
countertreason 2 weeks ago
Ron Paul is the one who will end the fed. Vote Ron Paul.
Sabinovitchcam 2 weeks ago
@Sabinovitchcam Preachin to the choir
trashtelevision 2 weeks ago
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TheGreatSquash 2 weeks ago
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Vorzt 2 weeks ago
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kwe19772002 3 weeks ago
@kwe19772002 ty A lot of people over analyze it. The banks stealing trillions on swaps caused an economic collapse resulting in a recession which contributed to lower tax revenues stimulus spending which lead to huge deficits!
trashtelevision 2 weeks ago
It's interesting how the American Occupiers blame capitalism, while in Europe, several of the socialist countries over there are teetering on default and bankruptcy. They have Greek, Italian, and British "Occupiers" protesting over austerity measures. So if the socialist European states are supposed to be "good models" of the kind of government the liberals in America aspire to, they might want to take a closer look at their "ideal model of government."
josephc28 3 weeks ago 2
@josephc28 The problem is not Capitalism or Socialism it is the Banks stealing the money. That caused a financial crisis and huge deficits from the lower tax revenues resulting from layoffs! The bailouts in Europe are to the Banks!!!!
trashtelevision 3 weeks ago 2
@trashtelevision I can agree with you about the banks, especially the central banks, but the deficits are caused by overspending on the part of the governments, especially in America. The last time the budget was balanced in America was back in 1999 and 2000. The last time it was balanced before then was 1969. The governments in both Europe and America live by deficit spending. This is unsustainable, as we are beginning to see in Europe and before too long, we will see it in the U.S. as well.
josephc28 3 weeks ago
@josephc28 Yes spending is out of control everywhere...hence printed fiat money and the rise of Gold! Much of the deficit here is lack of revenue regardless of what they tell you. If unemployment was 4% and GDP 6% and we brought back all the outsourced jobs it could all look lot better! Then they could stop stimulus and printing!
trashtelevision 3 weeks ago
@trashtelevision The Fed will never stop printing money. That's why the dollar has been depreciating for years and years. The monetary system is based on debt. That's why they came off the gold standard. That was the birth of deficit spending which is why the govt is in the fiscal mess it is in today. It makes no difference what shape the economy is in. If you notice, during the robust 90's economy, the national debt still grew, even when the Clinton administration was crowing about surpluses.
josephc28 3 weeks ago
@trashtelevision The banks didn't cause the financial crisis. They didn't put a gun to anyone's head and force them to take out loans that they couldn't pay back.
mikesheen741 2 weeks ago
We've doubled the M1 money supply and they don't put stats out for the M3 money supply anymore. Who knows if 27 trillion is actually right.
But the corporations absolutely do lobby government. Of course. The solution is not to protest the corporations, the solution is to protest the government for not obeying the constitution. Put the chains back on Big Brother, so he can't give out anymore of our money.
Keeban3 3 weeks ago
@Keeban3 I agree! We can't be sure of the exact amount the Fed loaned or gave but It's common knowledge that the Fed lent at least 16 Trillion. Bernanke admitted it in front of Congress fro ma partial audit. He would not say to who.
trashtelevision 3 weeks ago
@trashtelevision
Yea I saw you mention that to someone else, and was going to ask if you have a link to a video of this. The only thing I can find is him 'debunking' those numbers, saying that only 1.5 trillion was loaned.
Keeban3 3 weeks ago
@Keeban3 If you are willing to do some browsing on youtube you can find the Video of Bernanke's testimony to Congress. You may also be able to find Dylan Ratigan too. He showed it frequently!
trashtelevision 3 weeks ago
@trashtelevision
I didn't search that long, but I've searched long enough to doubt its existence. I am sure you remember seeing it, but memory can be a tricky beast. He testified before congress recently specifically saying the Fed didn't loan out that kind of money. Certainly he is lying, but I don't think he is brazen enough to directly say both he did and didn't to the same committee. And google and youtube come up with nothing easy, and you'd expect it to be easy.
Keeban3 3 weeks ago
I think when you talk about 27 trillion there is a distinction between what was directly given and the money made available as loan gaurantees. Banks were loaned money by the Fed at nearly 0% interest and then they loaned that money out at a profit.
But regardless of amount, these banks (and rating agencies) committed outright fraud with no accountability while we are left with a massive recession. And of course these banks continue to own "our" politicians.
orange343434 3 weeks ago
MSNBC, yeah there's a real relaible source.
harrydoyle 4 weeks ago
@harrydoyle It's common knowledge that the Fed lent at least 16 Trillion. Bernanke admitted it in front of Congress fro ma partial audit. He would not say to who.
trashtelevision 4 weeks ago
when they have "Capitalism is the crisis" as the front banner of their march, it makes me think they are Communists.
Scalpking47 4 weeks ago
The fed has publicly stated that all of the bailout money has been payed back with interest. Just thought I'd clear that up.
hirschman23 1 month ago
@hirschman23 If u believe what the Fed says without concrete proof that may not be a good idea. Did u think they would say it wasn't paid back? Only a real audit would show what is going on there.
trashtelevision 1 month ago
27 trillion is a lie, should of stoped watching it as soon as you heard that.
macy725 1 month ago
@macy725 Sadly it is not a lie. Most of the money went through the Fed and the FDIC. They don't need Congressional Approval. Bernanke refused to answer where 16 Trillion of it went in a hearing.
trashtelevision 1 month ago
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OccupyTheApocolypse 1 month ago
@OccupyTheApocolypse OK! lol
trashtelevision 1 month ago
Fraud and conspiracy of the banks? ALL assets on the bank balance sheet are fraud. they are all "bets".
superdiza 1 month ago
You used Go!Animate? Wow, lame.
irateyourvideo1 1 month ago
@irateyourvideo1 What can I say....we can't all be geniuses. It does have it's limitations.
trashtelevision 1 month ago
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jboles633 1 month ago
WELCOME TO THE GLOBAL ECONOMY. HAHAHAHAHA!!! Morons with occupy wall street protested the wrong place. Should've been 1600 Pennsylvania, and at the doorstep of the Fed.
omega14j1 1 month ago
@omega14j1 Some did protest at the Fed. But the "Occupy" Movement was hijacked by the left...so now people don't realize here are a lot of normal people in the middle calls who agree!
trashtelevision 1 month ago
@trashtelevision The left is alot of normal people. As is the right. Fox and CNN and MSN have all painted a picture that anyone of another bias is retarded, for the sole purpose of splitting the populace so the gov can pass shit while we aren't looking, like NDAA and SOPA, Gladly, we caught SOPA. There are more intelligent people on the Left and on the Right than anyone gives eachother credit for.
Keijikrall 1 month ago 17
@Keijikrall There is good and bad on both sides. I'm in the middle pretty much so I draw from both a bit. But I tend to be more Libertarian as I get older. BTW "Occupy" was for everyone on both sides who want a shot at success with hard work!
trashtelevision 1 month ago
@trashtelevision Exactly. I as well, am not part of the bad, so I support occupy. Least, I hope I am.
Keijikrall 1 month ago
@Keijikrall I'm sure you are good!
trashtelevision 1 month ago
@trashtelevision I love you. You say as you get older. How old are you? And can I get a Ron Paul 2012!
QCREIGN 1 month ago
@Keijikrall I could not have said it better myself. However there are even more indoctrinated zombies on all sides than we give ourselves credit for as well. Those zombies are the problem.
QCREIGN 1 month ago
@omega14j1 Let me guess, end the fed?
MaxamillianArturo 1 month ago
@omega14j1 Ignorant Troll.
QCREIGN 1 month ago
@omega14j1 51 Occupy protesters were arrested at the San Fransisco federal reserve last month... where were you?
Ne0mega 1 month ago
please submit to collectivism in order to fight the banks. Not once does occupy address individuality and preserve it with their collectivist hive-mind system of manipulation.
xtofury 1 month ago
ows is a controlled opposition for the elites, I am not buying into this occutard bs
xtofury 1 month ago
Fascism is what the GM redo basically was. However, BHO is a Marxist with Nazi tendencies as is Nazi Pelousy and Dirty Harry Reid. The word statist also fits. OWS is a pretty much confused menagerie sponsored by leftists.
JakeBlakeProject 1 month ago
@JakeBlakeProject Please watch "We Are Occupy...Do Not Label Us" so you can see how Soros and the left hijacked this movement!
trashtelevision 1 month ago
@trashtelevision Soros minions STARTED the OWS thru one of their webzombies... at least that's what I've got so far... check my vids...
JakeBlakeProject 1 month ago
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marionetemanJ 1 month ago
@JakeBlakeProject Nah bro. Occupy is an allergic reaction to all of the bullshit we are fed from all media left right and center. It is an allergic reaction to the deadly bacteria which is our corrupt political system. Like all allergic reaction it is not comfortable, it is not pretty but it is good because it lets you know that something bad is afoot.
QCREIGN 1 month ago
So who wrote this, Mickey Mouse? Karl Marx? Barack Obama? No difference really. Amateurish and stupid, shallow
TheDanBC 1 month ago
@TheDanBC Get ready for the next Bank collapse. See if u think Karl Marx wrote it after that. It's coming to a Bank near you later this year.
trashtelevision 1 month ago
@TheDanBC Obama isn't a communist -- unless you'd care to illustrate where the government has permanently taken control of private businesses.
BoredomCorner 1 month ago
@BoredomCorner GM. there ya go moron
MrUCF2004 1 month ago
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NewAuthor47010 1 month ago
Good work, but you didn't go all the way back to discover the cause of the problem. Read the CRA of 1977 and the regulatory changes to it to understand how our government caused the problem in the first place. Then look at the Trade treaties of the 90's and government environmental regulation to understand where the job market went. It may disgust you to realize that it was mostly Dems that did it all.
maconsumner 1 month ago
@maconsumner These two parties are both terrible. And this has been part of a long term trend of our society downward.
trashtelevision 1 month ago
@trashtelevision Amen brother, it's refreshing to see another person with a brain that works on Youtube. Everything in this issue that happened was done by the Dems, but it required compliance from the Republicans. Newt Gingrich was Speaker when Clinton passed the trade treaties. Congress could have stopped that madness but didn't. Our manufacturing base fell apart over that act.
maconsumner 1 month ago
@maconsumner Clinton and Gingrich got "Glass Seigal" overturned and made "SWAPS" legal.hence the Banking crisis and the next one coming soon!
trashtelevision 1 month ago
@trashtelevision Yes, that was yet another regulatory attempt at controlling the value of the otherwise unbacked $. Other regulatory attempts that didn’t help anything have happened to include the CRA of 77 I mentioned and Franks/Dodd will prove to be the same thing. They just don’t get it.
maconsumner 1 month ago
@maconsumner Oh they get it! All these things are purposely designed to help the Banks not us. They aren't here to represent us...they represent the elites!
trashtelevision 1 month ago
@trashtelevision If they get it, and I do believe that a very, very small portion of them do and the rest are just a bunch of screaming idiots, why are they not in Washington, at the source of the problem? I have mentioned the Franks/Dodd banking regulation bill to several people and most don’t even seem to realize those two were in large portion responsible for the banking crisis in the first place.
maconsumner 1 month ago
@maconsumner Dodd & Frank recieved huge sums of money from Fannie and Freddie as did Hillary, Obama, Gingrich etc. It's all corruption!
trashtelevision 1 month ago
@trashtelevision Yes, there were a bunch of people who knew exactly when to get their money in and out based on what they did. I think a case for insider trading could be made against them. It was absolutely intentional what they did.
maconsumner 1 month ago
OWS is a communist movement, started by communist groups. Plain and simple.
Bergertim 1 month ago
@Bergertim That element of it is there for sure, but it doesn't speak for many Americans who don't mind rich people...we simply didn't want them to get rich stealing. I've been in business my entire life and I believe in earning your money.
trashtelevision 1 month ago
@Bergertim And youre a bullshitter plain and simple a TROLL.
DRock7977 1 month ago
@DRock7977 No, I can prove everything I have said. See my video, titled, "Occupy Wall Street is a Communist Revolution."
Bergertim 1 month ago
@Bergertim
And so what if it is?
Besides, it isn't just ommunists, some other forms of socialism,it is some other forms of Anarchists, Libertarians, etc.
Sismiques 1 month ago
@Sismiques I'm not talking about the participants. Many people, with many different philosophies are participating, but the movement itself was started and coordinated by communist groups.
Bergertim 1 month ago
@Bergertim
"Philosophers have only tired to explain the world; the important thing is to change it."-Karl Marx
Sismiques 1 month ago
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@Bergertim
I am not afraid of living in a "communist state", because there is no such thing.
Communism itself is stateless, Ie. a form of Anarchy.
The socialist state is just temporary.
"The Proletarians only need the state that is withering away."-Marx, Lenin, Tito
Sismiques 1 month ago
@Sismiques (continued) and as to your first question, if you're not afraid of living in a communist state then it must be because you are ignorant of the facts. Communism is responsible for the starvation, execution and extermination of over 150,000,000 innocent men, women and children, all in the name of communism.
Bergertim 1 month ago
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Sismiques 1 month ago
@Bergertim
People do misuse names you know, phonies, imposters.
Sismiques 1 month ago
@Bergertim And exactly what good has unchecked capitalism done? Or fascism, which is where a lot of conservative Americans want to take the country?
BoredomCorner 1 month ago
@BoredomCorner The problem here is not capitalism, it is ignorance and misinformation. There is no "unchecked capitalism" in America. Everything is heavily regulated by the government, to the point where capitalism is almost impossible. And fascism belongs on the left side of the political spectrum, which is why the word NAZI is derived from the words national and socialism. It has nothing to do with the right, which is about minimal government and maximum freedom.
Bergertim 1 month ago
Smosh then clarinet recital then how to play monopoly brought me here.
TetrisCitadel 2 months ago
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Gald you were here! lol
trashtelevision 2 months ago
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bluemoonshine20 2 months ago
Ron Paul could have my support if he ran as a third party candidate. There is no saving the Grand Old Party
TheKinchdedalus 2 months ago
@TheKinchdedalus He may win the nomination. This is the first time I actually believe there is a chance!
trashtelevision 2 months ago
It used to be 80-20 then it was 90-10, then it was 95-5 but when you get to 99-1 I think if we don't fix it there will be nothing left!
trashtelevision 2 months ago 2
Grow up, stop looking for some1 Ron Paul etc, to come along and save you. It is our responsibility to commit to actions in the interest us the people the ruling class will never freely let go they have worked hard to "control the public mind" as ur leaders put it. they need protect themselves from the "the bewildered herd" (us) or risk being "trampled" thus 99% r forbidden being anything other then a spectator
NotSuchAnEvilBunny 2 months ago
SUPPORT AND GET ALL YOU KNOW TO SUPPORT RON PAUL 2012 OR YOU ARE FOR THE 1% and hurting the 99% GREATLY.
LITERALLY,NO OTHER CANDIDATE IS TALKING ABOUT THESE ISSUES AT ALL AND RON PAUL IS AGAINST EACH/ALL OF THEM : THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX STARTING WARS FOR PROFIT, THE FEDERAL RESERVE TRYING TO HOLD ITS POWER AFTER IT HAS PROVEN IT HURTS AVERAGE AMERICANS WHILE MAKING BANKERS RICH, ENDING BANK BAILOUTS, ENDING THE WAR ON DRUGS PAID FOR BY SPECIAL INTERESTS ALCOHOL TOBACCO TIMBER.
JMS13579 2 months ago
@JMS13579 You're preaching to the choir! I'm a Ron Paul supporter and I have a few ads you can use under the "Political" Playlist
trashtelevision 2 months ago 2
Yes...she does!!!!
trashtelevision 2 months ago
Erin Burnett needs to see this video.
NormacHC 2 months ago
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NormacHC 2 months ago
I agree with most of this but in and of itself what is wrong with out sourcing jobs?
TravistheHuman 2 months ago
@TravistheHuman What's wrong with it? If you sell 80% of your products here and have 15% of your employees here it's called tax evasion! Besides decimating the tax fun it does wonders for our trade balance and currency!
trashtelevision 2 months ago
lots of people who self-identify as the 'right' seem to think the occupy movement is all about people on the 'left' who want the government to control their lives for them, looking for a government handout etc. this doesn't seem like the case to me. i haven't seen occupy petition the government to do a damned thing for them.
snakefeather1 2 months ago
it's more about telling the banking industry, or wall street, to get the fuck out of politics, pay a living wage, and quit acting as though the lives of americans are expendable. its about raising awareness that we the people are getting shafted and we aren't gonna take it anymore.
snakefeather1 2 months ago
problem is, people are conditioned to a left/right mindset where the opposite side each has half the bad policies projected on them. Anything that seems like it has anything to do with the left? Oh, must be a bunch of dirty hippy commies looking for a handout. i can't respect people who puts words in my mouth based on a simpleton's view of politics.
snakefeather1 2 months ago
@snakefeather1 I am not left or right! Simply Truth! I just look at the facts and ignore all the spin both left and right. I guess that's why I like Ron Paul! lol
trashtelevision 2 months ago
@trashtelevision LMAO!!!!! Simply truth....no my sheeple friend.....you are still in the matrix .....thinking a politician will save you.....refusing to take responsibility for your stupidity
Ron Paul is a Rosy Cross memeber, a John Birch Society Member (Jesuit Front) and a Freemason.
But no......I know wat you sheep will say before you do ."Not all masons are bad and so what if he is...he is against the FED.....he is anti NWO" .....funny.....Masons are key in the conspiracy...SHEEP
maidenkid84 2 months ago
@maidenkid84 It all looks bad to me, but of the candidates RP looks best. What else is there? We really are at a breaking point so if he's not elected we're toast, and if he is we may be toast.
trashtelevision 2 months ago
@snakefeather1
Because that's exactly what it is, a bunch of leftists pushing for more of the same BS, more government and more socialism.
malagaent 2 months ago
@MrJeggus seriously! people need to drop the right/left paradigm, you have all been brainwashed! the politicians on the 'right' are extremely culpable in the cancerous growth of the MIC bankrupting our nation, and getting in bed with wall street and billionaires.
snakefeather1 2 months ago
Some parts of OWS have a good point and are a lot like the Tea Party. But they're the 1% of the "99%". The 99% of OWS are a bunch of idiots, simply put.
RosieKR 2 months ago
@RosieKR Please watch "We are Occup" Do Not Label Us. It addresses what you say.
trashtelevision 2 months ago
@RosieKR "DO NOT LABEL US"?
Go to hell, you are the one labeling everyone, that's where the 99% BS comes from. OWS itself is perhaps 0.1%, and about 0.1% of OWS makes sense. The rest of it is flat out BS, a socialist insurgency that needs to be put down.
So I'll label you:
Idiots, socialists, communists, hippies, insurgents, thugs, democrats, morons, freaks, smelly bastards, lazy, incompetent, liars and far left-fringe lunatics.
malagaent 2 months ago
@malagaent Us? First off I don't think you understood my comment. I'm not part of OWS, nor do I support it. But the fact of the matter is that there is a small, rational part of OWS that the majority of the American public would agree with. The small part that hates the corruption going on in Washington like the insider trading and whatnot. I'm a constitutionalist conservative and I have no problem bashing Republicans or Democrats when they start to think their shit doesn't smell.
RosieKR 2 months ago
@RosieKR
Actually, I think it is you who doesn't understand my comment, which is my fault. My comment is directed at the title which you posted. I should have been more clear that it was not directed at you personally.
I'll be commenting there as well, because there was NO hijacking of the movement, it was from day 1 a far left radical movement designed to inflame class warfare. Everything else is irrelevant, anyone in the movement thinking otherwise is ignorant at best.
malagaent 2 months ago
I am a Ron Paul supporter! I have ads fore him under The "Political" playlist and agree with all that you said! The Occupy Movement was hijacked by the left to make them look like loonies! Sadly it worked, but many are Ron Paul supporters!
trashtelevision 2 months ago
Occupy doesn't want economic independence for all they want socialism, if they didnt theyd support Paul and:
End the FEDERAL RESERVE which prints money to 12 american banks while devaluing the currency of THE NINETYNINE PERCENT
End the Drug war which is funded by the super rich tobacco, timber and alcohol industries who dont want marijuana hurting their sales
End the military industrial complex, stop spending half our budget to make weapons dealers rich.
You people are pathetic.
Ron Paul 2012
JMS13579 2 months ago
@JMS13579 hey man i agree fully, but dont attack people as pathetic, i just woke up to the truth 3 weeks ago when i heard about the national defence act and all that bs, tell them to listen, inform them, media has blinded us so badly people just dont know how to find real information anymore, be patient, we need to show people he is the best choice we have as a president, upmost respect to you man.
2HornDogs 2 months ago
@2HornDogs Good point.
JMS13579 2 months ago
@JMS13579 I support ron pall, and occupy wallstreet. I have no idea why you think occupy doesn't want what you listed, when I went those were all the main issues, what do you think it's about?
Liton777 2 months ago
@Liton777 My point is I think occupy wallstreet should officially endorse Ron Paul because the is the only candidate who is represents their interests at all. spread the word, he needs a grassroots following because he is about to be fully attacked by the media when he wins Iowa.
To me it just seems like a ton of people from occupy have goals but no means to achieve them and they dont know of Ron Paul, tragically. They aren't pathetic, but the reality of the situation is.
JMS13579 2 months ago
@JMS13579 I agree with that, but they have good reasons, they want people to realise that they alone have they power to change the government, and not put their faith in one man. But When it comes down to it the best way of fixes this government is puting ron paul in office. Me and many of my friends go to the occupy movements, and also support ron paul.
Liton777 2 months ago
@Liton777 But you guys are overestimating the effects these protests have.
The media just lies about what happens and whos there and what your aims are.
If EVERYONE there had a Ron Paul sign- instead of WERE THE 99%, it would be impossible to censor, your aim would be obvious, they couldn't lie.
The elite who back the military industrial complex, drug war and fed reserve aren't going to stop until we get a candidate in the white house. I see everything else as a waste of valuable protesting
JMS13579 2 months ago
@Liton777 I'm not sure if you noticed this yet, THE MEDIA IS ON FULL ATTACK OF RON PAUL. The saying Gandhi said is so true "first they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they attack you, then you win."
They censored him from polls and cable news first.
Then they tried to call him "nuts" without ever explaining why any of his policies are illogical
Now they are calling him a racist for letters he never wrote and wont stop bringing it up after he answered 1000 times, blatant propaganda.
JMS13579 2 months ago
@JMS13579 i don't think OWS ought to shift their message into a political endorsement. he may be a great candidate, but it is the core issues that he addresses that are the important part. people need to know what is wrong with the country, and not just line up behind a candidate. politicians lie, but the truth never lies.
snakefeather1 2 months ago
@JMS13579 not helpful. the world doesn't revolve around ron paul. if he had a heart attack tomorrow what would you do? crawl under a rock and die? look for a new savior? the message is bigger than ron paul.
snakefeather1 2 months ago
@snakefeather1 YOU ARE TOO IDEALISTIC! YOU DO NOT REALIZE THE EXTENT TO WHICH ONLY RON PAUL IS SUPPORTING THE 99%. WE ARE LOSING TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS BC OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE ALONE, NOT TO MENTION AT LEAST A WARS AND THE DRUG WAR.
You guys aren't accomplishing a thing! If anyone but Ron Paul wins this next election you will continue to have the federal reserve- you must not know the extent that the federal reserve is SCREWING EVERYONE ELSE, only Ron Paul is going to accomplish ANYTHING.
JMS13579 2 months ago
@snakefeather1 THIS IS THE POINT OF HAVING A DEMOCRACY. SO WE CAN ENDORSE CANDIDATES WHO REPRESENT OUR INTEREST, not so we could protest meaninglessly. WHAT A WASTE! What do you think they protested like this in the Arab Spring? NO THEY HAD DEMANDS, THEY HAD PEOPLE WHO REPRESENTED THEIR INTERESTS, ITS THE ONLY WAY TO GET THOSE ABUSING POWER OUT.
THERE IS ONE ANTI ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATE, RON PAUL.
SUPPORT HIM OR YOU ARE Unconsciously helping the 1% AGAINST THE 99%
JMS13579 2 months ago
@snakefeather1 No one is going to listen to you because you sit in front of where the are working! This isn't the 1800s. Banks don't even need to operate outside their own buildings at all! THE PROTESTS ARENT DOING ANYTHING EXCEPT DRAWING MORE PROTESTERS TO PROTEST NOTHING- NO DEMANDS.
You really expect banks to stop PRINTING MONEY (which devalues EVERYONE ELSES currency) just because you ASK THEM?????
COME ON ! WAKE UP! YOU NEED TO STOP THIS WITH THE FULL FORCE OF THE LAW.
JMS13579 2 months ago
@snakefeather1 There is more than one libertarian, Ron Paul is just the prototype and deserves it more than any of the others AND IS IN POSITION TO WIN THIS ELECTION AND EASILY WOULD WITH AN ENDORSEMENT FROM OCCUPY WALLSTREET- THIS WOULD DO SO MUCH TO FIX OUR COUNTRY ITS SAD YOU DONT GET IT.
HE IS THE ONLY CANDIDATE WHO SUPPORTS YOUR INTERESTS AT ALL WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE MEDIA IS TRYING TO STOP YOU FROM THIS BY OVEREXAGGURATING WHAT YOU ARE ACCOMPLISHING WITH THESE PROTESTS
JMS13579 2 months ago
I really don't understand how "occupy" hasn't endorse Ron Paul if they really care about anything changing at all. Spread the word about Ron Paul...
JMS13579 2 months ago
Realy!!!
saikano3500 2 months ago
So the occupiers were concerned about taxpayers? And all of this bailout stuff happened under Obama... so why do the occupiers support him?
janelasdedeus 2 months ago
@janelasdedeus "The Fed" loans were made under Bush, but isn't too relevant. The policies have continued and many "Occupiers" support Ron Paul!
trashtelevision 2 months ago
@janelasdedeus they do? I'm not so sure. besides 'all this bailout stuff happened under obama' is not a true statement.
snakefeather1 2 months ago
I'm scared!
jamesstasiak 2 months ago
@jamesstasiak We all are!
trashtelevision 2 months ago
LOL @ Our Species.
TonyBtheEG 2 months ago
Not to mention what history tells us...When Regan cut taxes on the rich the country suffered. However in the times like the forties and fifties, when taxes on the richest were HIGH the country was doing WELL. We need to tax the rich appropriately and it isn't to stifle them or capitalism but to keep things in balance and help maintain our country's stability and our standard of living. Don't you know the USA is one of the worst ranking in INCOME INEQUALITY? That leads to poor standard of living.
Piriathy 2 months ago
Yeah The reason the poor don't pay income tax is because they literally cannot afford to. They make only a few thousand a year some of them and they can hardly afford to take care of themselves. Why anyone would drastically CUT taxes on people who are far more wealthy than normal and CAN shoulder a greater tax burden, especially in times of economic decline when we need the revenue as a nation, is absurd and opposed to all LOGIC.
Piriathy 2 months ago
freddy31DA 3 months ago
"why is this happening?"
- because the people are sleeping
.. the people are selfish, self-righteous, prejudicial, ignorant, hypocritical, shallow, brainwashed, suppressed, war-minded, living in denial, worshipful, disrespectful, exploitational.. i could go on with about 10-20 other adjectives about how corrupt mankind is. 200-4000 years worth of increasing bullshit has lead up to this massive joke of an economy we can barely manage to keep stable (which will collapse shortly).
katsumorymoto 3 months ago
ReDiscover911(dot)com
Chemtrails
Tectonic weapons
Depleted uranium
Toxic vaccines
There are other subjects of importance. Pull the plug on the money machine and the evildoers will squeal the most.
whole2th 3 months ago
@whole2th Don't worry we'll be doing Videos on all of them!
trashtelevision 3 months ago